Nintendo plans upgraded Switch and major games for 2021 - Bloomberg

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-25/nintendo-plans-upgraded-switch-console-and-major-games-for-2021

Nintendo Co. plans to debut an upgraded model of its Switch console next year along with a lineup of new games, people familiar with the matter said, ceding 2020’s holiday spotlight to rival devices from Sony Corp. and Microsoft Corp.

The specifications of the new machine have yet to be finalized, though the Kyoto-based company has looked into including more computing power and 4K high-definition graphics, people briefed on the strategy told Bloomberg News, asking not to be identified because it’s private. Nintendo faces stiff competition for gamers’ attention this fall as the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X are set to arrive in time for the shopping season.

The release of the upgraded Switch would be coupled with, or followed by, a slew of games from Nintendo itself and related outside studios, the people said. Those games would address a wide range of players, from casual gamers seeking small doses of escapism to more devoted fans putting in marathon gaming sessions. The focus on next year’s pipeline explains Nintendo’s relatively quiet software release schedule so far this year, the people said.

Lol, another Switch 2 rumor.. but is it true this time?! Let me know your thoughts, SW. I really would like it to be true. 60fps Bayonetta 3, thanks.

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#2  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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Why would they do that? Its on the go. Nintendo fans enjoy their games in 540-720p in 19fps 😊

There is simply no need to upgrade the system. If it performs at 9fps, that's fine, because the advantage of a Switch is being able to play vidya games on the go 😊😊😊

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#3  Edited By SecretPolice  Online
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Bait & Switch is toast. Just accept it.

Xcloud FTW. :P

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#4  Edited By Maroxad
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I doubt it is an actual. I expect an announcement of the Switch 2, though.

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#5 DaVillain  Moderator
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Just make sure 1080p/60fps is the bottom line minimum. It's 2020, 30fps should be dead and buried by now and as powerful as handhelds are now capable of running games in 60fps.

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#6 sakaiXx
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If current switch cannot play games on this rumored switch pro due to power differences then it is a different product than switch right?

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#7 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Nintendo, Nvidia and DLSS 2.0 about to show y’all how it’s done.

That kinda power on a battery doesn’t sound likely. Could this be a new dock? Nintendo will need to do something in the next couple years hardware wise to keep their current 3rd party support. I just don’t see how they make a 1080p+ screen with a big enough jump in horse power while keeping the handheld functionality. And really, that functionality is a bigger bullet point than and resolution bump.

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#8 Telekill
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As long as the games work on the regular Switch, I won't be bothering. Even if it's a successor, I might not buy it. The only Nintendo IPs missing from Switch is Star Fox, Crusin' and FZerofor me. I also wish MS would allow Killer Instinct on the Switch.

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#9 jcrame10
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What does Nintendo have lined up for the Switch, anyways? I can't think of anything else besides Bayonetta 3 and Metroid Prime 4.

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#10 Telekill
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@jcrame10: Zelda BotW 2 is the only thing I can think of that I want personally. Plenty of games for the kids though.

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#11 robert_sparkes
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A nintendo console in 4k ?

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Bet they will count it as Switch sales, those aspirations will need new architecture.

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Lol 4k.... so dumb.

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@Telekill said:

@jcrame10: Zelda BotW 2 is the only thing I can think of that I want personally. Plenty of games for the kids though.

I tried to forget those games exist.

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I’m kind of sceptical about this myself as I think they would be better just to go straight into a Switch 2 in 2022. However the Switch is still very hot so maybe they want to ride it out a bit longer.

Either way I’d get a Switch Pro if it comes out next year.

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I'd buy it day 1...

I will say switch has been kinda meh for a year now. They have vastly improved over the previous couple generations though. Keep bringing franchises on to the system please nintendo!

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#17 SolidGame_basic
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@TheEroica said:

I'd buy it day 1...

I will say switch has been kinda meh for a year now. They have vastly improved over the previous couple generations though. Keep bringing franchises on to the system please nintendo!

Yea it's been a weird year for Nintendo. I have a feeling there was going to be more but I think COVID put a wrench in their plans.

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#18 lamprey263
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As long as I can still play new games, I am okay with the current one, don't play them on my 4K television anyways so fine with portable mode.

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#19 Jag85
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It will probably be an upgrade akin to the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, rather than a Switch 2.

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#20 onesiphorus
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I will believe it once it is officially confirmed by Nintendo. Other than that, I will take what I read with a grain of salt.

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#21 enzyme36
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as long as its still portable... id check it out to see if its worth an upgrade.

if its not portable ill just stick with the original

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If they release a stronger and faster version of the Switch that is a stand alone at home console I am more than ok with that. Call it a Switch pro + series N if you want to. It would be a day one buy from me. I would simply put that in my bedroom and give my current switch to my kids. I play it docked 99.99999% of the time.

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When are we getting new Star Fox and F-Zero games?

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@jcrame10: Hopefully never, no one buys those weird games. They have no appeal.

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#26 Mesome713
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@girlusocrazy: Not many people bought that Wii attachment. So they’re all new games to the world.

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#27 Chozofication
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@davillain-: 60fps minimum when Xbox series x has 30fps games?

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#28  Edited By deactivated-63181ff40994a
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Still waiting on the day Nintendo decide to grow up and develop a proper powerful next gen console...they've made enough money on handheld kiddy shit over the years to finally come out with one.

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#29  Edited By sonic_spark
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Here's my thoughts. Metroid Prime 4 will be a launch title at 4K.

I'm just hoping BOTW 2 doesn't get pushed back.

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@girlusocrazy said:

That's good because the launch switch was a dud. The Switch only has like 4 games, the rest are Wii U and 3rd party games I've already played. Seriously I have more Wii U games than Switch.

The system is good as something cheap you can give to your kid so they don't tie up the good TV, but outside of that it's a disappointment.

As a distinct console, it's basically a proof of concept, because Nintendo dropped the ball on content. They did bullshit with the Joycons too. Look at the trailer for the Switch again, nobody is using it like that. The only good thing they did with that was Ring Fit, but I look at my balance board and know better than to buy that.

I've been waiting on this a while Nintendo, don't let me down again!

Just get a PS5....it'll have everything.

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@chozofication said:

@davillain-: 60fps minimum when Xbox series x has 30fps games?

Nintendo is using Nvidia like tech. Why wouldn't the new Switch not play games in better framerates? Xbox Series X however can play games in 60fps "if" developers choose to do so.

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#33  Edited By Mesome713
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@girlusocrazy: I think they expected people to be smart enough when they saw all the Wii U 2 games.

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#34 lundy86_4
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If so, just gimme up to 1440p docked. Ninty does like to shoot for 60, so that could be non-viable. Games like Xeno 2 are well deserving of a res bump, even though the game wasn't quite as good as XC.

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@lundy86_4 said:

If so, just gimme up to 1440p docked. Ninty does like to shoot for 60, so that could be non-viable. Games like Xeno 2 are well deserving of a res bump, even though the game wasn't quite as good as XC.

Maybe P5R will come to the Pro 😮

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#36 Mesome713
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@SolidGame_basic: It needs to come to more devices, it sold horribly on PS4. Sega said it underperformed.

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#37 SolidGame_basic
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@mesome713: well, from what I heard, it's not a significant update to warrant a whole new game.

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#39  Edited By lundy86_4
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@bandodger said:

This is fantastic news.

Stop being a fakeboy.

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#41 lundy86_4
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@bandodger said:

@lundy86_4:

:?

I nintendo exclusives with better frame rates is always good.

I read somewhere this will help keep third party ports coming to switch where first party titles will be designed for all switches

Just stop.

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#43  Edited By com2006
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@hardwenzen: I’m playing games on PC at 4k@60fps, but honestly it is nice but not a major leap. Nintendo understand this and continue to innovate in hardware and games, you mock them but the sales tell you what the market is right now. Mainstream gamers have moved away from graphics because every game looks good even on switch

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#44 Chozofication
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@davillain-: Im not sure I get it, the switch can run 60fps also if devs choose.

Unless you mean next gen ports at 60fps minimum... but I mean like I said even those ps5 and Xbox games are 30fps depending.

So yeah, no 60fps minimum on any machine will happen

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#45 BenjaminBanklin
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Yea it's been a weird year for Nintendo. I have a feeling there was going to be more but I think COVID put a wrench in their plans.

They just made a statement to the effect of saying they're ramping up output for next year. They've been coming out with good stuff but they hit that Nintendo dry spell again, even with a new wildly successful platform.

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#46 NfamousLegend
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Lets be honest, this is Nintendo we're talking about. We will be lucky if this mythical Switch 2 is on par with the VCR Xbox One. Good luck with any kind of 4K with that, even DLSS requires some level of competent hardware.

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@com2006 said:

@hardwenzen: I’m playing games on PC at 4k@60fps, but honestly it is nice but not a major leap. Nintendo understand this and continue to innovate in hardware and games, you mock them but the sales tell you what the market is right now. Mainstream gamers have moved away from graphics because every game looks good even on switch

Couldn't disagree more. We're not talking about 720/60fps on a Switch, no. We're talking about a bunch of games being below 720p (720p native is laughable enough as is in 2020 EVEN on a tiny screen the Switch has) AND way below 30fps, which is already a bare minimum. The condition a lot of games come out on the Switch should never be even sold to the public, their performance is pre alpha like.

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Nintendo + 4k = fake

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#49 judaspete
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They lose me at 4K. Everything else in the report makes sense, but there is no way a Switch Pro will be 4K. Best case scenario it's about on par with the vanilla XBone, and even that's a stretch.

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#50 Epak_
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It's shit that they haven't made any announcements for the whole summer, I know it's because of the epidemic, but come on.