Nintendo confirms what everyone with a brain knew: Smash Bros. Switch is a new game

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#1 Techhog89
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https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180427_2e.pdf

We will also host an invitational tournament for the new Super Smash Bros. title coming to Nintendo Switch.

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I'm sure that some of you will be dumb and keep calling it a port, but all that matters is reality. The debate is over, and anyone who calls it a port is wrong. Good day.

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#2 Ant_17
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No one cares if its a port or not.

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With characters like Pac-Man, Cloud, Megaman, Bayonetta, and Ryu appearing the 3DS/WiiU game, how many famous third-parties that have yet to make an appearance?

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#4  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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@onesiphorus said:

With characters like Pac-Man, Cloud, Megaman, Bayonetta, and Ryu appearing the 3DS/WiiU game, how many famous third-parties that have yet to make an appearance?

Crash Bandicoot, Simon Belmont, and Earthworm Jim immediately come to mind as 3rd party characters that would be great in Smash Bros. and have never been included yet.

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@Ant_17 said:

No one cares if its a port or not.

Except the most vehement anti-Nintendo posters on this forum, who's probably thinking:

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Nintendo are KO'ing my bank account.

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Obviously not a confirmation of anything but worth pointing out that “new” modifies “title.” The ambiguity originates from what you personally infer “title” to mean, and if it was going to be a new “game,” why not use that term instead?

My expectation is for SSBS to be a blend of remade content from Wii U and 3DS, but will be akin mechanically. So it’ll be half and half, basically.

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#8  Edited By Sgt_Crow
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Was clear as day during the announcement trailer.

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Hopefully no more amiibo ??

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#10  Edited By Telekill
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@storm_of_swords: Earthworm Jim would be an awesome retro character to add.

I'm hoping to see RE Remake's Chris and Jill given that the game was Nintendo exclusive for 12 years.

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#11 nintendoboy16
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@Telekill said:

@storm_of_swords: Earthworm Jim would be an awesome retro character to add.

I'm hoping to see RE Remake's Chris and Jill given that the game was Nintendo exclusive for 12 years.

Not sure if that era of RE is that over the top enough to really fit in something as frantic as Smash. I mean, Smash has NEVER represented Eternal Darkness (from the same era of survival horror) either, and that's their own IP.

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#12  Edited By Techhog89
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@Basinboy said:

Obviously not a confirmation of anything but worth pointing out that “new” modifies “title.” The ambiguity originates from what you personally infer “title” to mean, and if it was going to be a new “game,” why not use that term instead?

My expectation is for SSBS to be a blend of remade content from Wii U and 3DS, but will be akin mechanically. So it’ll be half and half, basically.

You're grasping. It's a new game. It'll likely use the same engine, but it's a new game. Title = game, and they don't refer to ports as new titles. Just stop. This is the dumbest argument I've seen yet. They always refer to games as titles/software titles in documents like this. It's how they do it, and it's consistent. Example: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html

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#13 MarioFan264
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I'm not buying that this is a confirmation of anything. I'm in the "SSB Switch is a new game" camp for many reasons, but this doesn't really go any further to confirm it than any information we've gotten before, I'm afraid.

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#14 Techhog89
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@MarioFan264 said:

I'm not buying that this is a confirmation of anything. I'm in the "SSB Switch is a new game" camp for many reasons, but this doesn't really go any further to confirm it than any information we've gotten before, I'm afraid.

It says that it's a new game. Literally says that with no ambiguity unless you're a straw-grasping idiot who doesn't realize that a large corporation may use slightly different wording than people on forums. They called it a new title. Title = game. Therefore, they called it a new game. What do they have to say for it to count as a confirmation to you people?

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It'll be the same copy/paste Smash game they've been making for years except with a few new characters. Fighting games are about as "new" as sports games.

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they should jus t take mario out of the game he's so boring and no one even likes him....... usless if u ask me

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who cares. just give me the game already

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#18 deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@Ant_17: I care. :P

While I enjoyed Smash 4, I still think the series hasn't quite reached the glory of Melee. If a new game can inch the series more in that direction, that would be great.

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#19 ReCloud
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3DS SSB is too old, while the Wii U flopped. It's a good thing it's a sequel not a port

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@jumpaction: 4 was the best Smash game imo.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: you don't play alot of fighting games

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Was Splatoon 2 also considered new? If so I would be cautious before going all in this "new game" thing.

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@phbz: yeah. splat 2 is new trust me lol.

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Most likely an enhanced port.

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#25  Edited By KBFloYd
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

It'll be the same copy/paste Smash game they've been making for years except with a few new characters. Fighting games are about as "new" as sports games.

i have to agree.

look at street fighter 2 to 3 to 4 to 5....basically the same game with the same moves(slight changes, new characters) and different artstyles.

mortal kombat 1 and 2...are like clones. 3 added running and combos. mortal kombat 9 and X are clones

i could go on and on... tekken, soul aclibur, marvel vs capcom...

there is only so much you can do in a fighting game. same as racing games.

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#26  Edited By KBFloYd
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@phbz said:

Was Splatoon 2 also considered new? If so I would be cautious before going all in this "new game" thing.

like call of duty modern warefare 1, 2 and 3

shooters(in multiplayer) are another genre besides, racing and fighters where each iteration is similar.

oh!

and sports games(as mentioned by nathandrakeswag)

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as long as it has a new title and isnt smash 4 "remaster" or "deluxe"

then we can rest assure it will be new enough to be fresh.

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@93BlackHawk93 said:

Most people here probably can't even drive yet so we're not dealing with the most complete individuals.

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Nintendo is such a one trick pony. Make some new ips already. Every gen is the exact same.

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@emgesp said:

Most likely an enhanced port.

You're trolling at this point.

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@Advid-Gamer said:

Nintendo is such a one trick pony. Make some new ips already. Every gen is the exact same.

about 7 or 8 god of war games in the span of 2 gens

about 5 uncharted games in the span of 2 gens.

about 4 killzone games in the span of 2 gens.

lol at least nintendo spread their games out. sony spams the shit out of every hit new IP.

crash bandicoot is still around..... spyro....tomb raider...final fanatsy!

cmon square! let final fanatsy die already! avid gamer wants new IPs

lmao

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#33  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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@Advid-Gamer said:

Nintendo is such a one trick pony. Make some new ips already. Every gen is the exact same.

Recently, they have made three mayor new IPs:

  • Xenoblade Chronicles
  • Splatoon
  • Arms

Didn't include other recent new IPs like Rhythm Heaven, Pushmo, or BoxBoy! (even though they're dope) because narrow-minded people predictably classify them as "casual trash".

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#34 DaVillain  Moderator
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If Nintendo can't come up with something newer to SSB series, then I'll gladly take a SSB remake collection from the N64 to the Wii U please.

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@93BlackHawk93: Saving that.

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@KBFloYd: at least the make new ips along with sequels. Nintendo is the exact same shit a every gen. Only children would.list a splattoon as a great new up. No point in trying to discuss anything with 12 year olds.its the exact same thing every gen in systems are. The system releases with a few great games. People.hype it to the moon and the rest of the gen it's a drought box

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@Advid-Gamer said:

@KBFloYd: at least the make new ips along with sequels. Nintendo is the exact same shit a every gen. Only children would.list a splattoon as a great new up. No point in trying to discuss anything with 12 year olds.its the exact same thing every gen in systems are. The system releases with a few great games. People.hype it to the moon and the rest of the gen it's a drought box

i cant wait till i am 18 so i can buy a ps4. seriously the government should make the ps4 buying age 18! just like its law not to drink til 21.

LMAO

i'd rather get 1 game a year from nintendo than 50 from sony.

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#38 emgesp
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@techhog89 said:
@emgesp said:

Most likely an enhanced port.

You're trolling at this point.

How the hell is that trolling? They have been releasing many enhanced Wii U ports, so why do you question the possibility that they will do the same for Smash?

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Port or no, it's going to sell like hot cakes! Mark it!

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The span between Melee (2001) and Brawl (2008) is about seven years, while between Brawl (2008) and the 3DS/WiiU (2014) versions is around six years. If the Switch version is a new entry and not a port or even an enhanced port like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, it would be about four years since the 3DS/WiiU versions were released. While short in recent times, but the span between the original Super Smash Bros. (1999) and Melee (2001) was about two years.

We may have to see at E3 or before whether the Switch game is an original title or a port of an existing Smash game.

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Someone needs a chill pill. You angry

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@KBFloYd said:
@Advid-Gamer said:

Nintendo is such a one trick pony. Make some new ips already. Every gen is the exact same.

about 7 or 8 god of war games in the span of 2 gens

about 5 uncharted games in the span of 2 gens.

about 4 killzone games in the span of 2 gens.

lol at least nintendo spread their games out. sony spams the shit out of every hit new IP.

crash bandicoot is still around..... spyro....tomb raider...final fanatsy!

cmon square! let final fanatsy die already! avid gamer wants new IPs

lmao

The new God of War is completely different than the rest of the series. Killzone is dead. GG made Horizon.

If it wasn't for Mario and Pokemon Nintendo would be dead.