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#1 MrEpyx
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Remember when everyone including PS3 fanboys thought Sony was pathetic when they threw motion control into the Dual Shock at the last second and called it SIXAXIS? That was pretty sad, but we expect stuff like that from Sony.

Now every sheep is wetting themselves because SSBB has a "level designer" ala Halo 3. a FREAKING LEVEL DESIGNER for a game where it doesn't make a bit of difference. Talk about a USELESS feature that is trying to borrow the hype of the extremely USEFUL and SUCCESSFUL Halo 3 level editor.

Now all the sheep are like, "OMGz! SSBB can do everything Halo 3 can do!! teh Magaton GOTY LOCK CONFIRM3d!!1"

Yeah, and Hyundai can put fake woodgrain interior in their cars too, but that doesn't turn them into Rolls Royces.

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#2 LINKloco
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Excitebike.
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#3 PikaPichu
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So SSBB has a level editor now?! What will those crazy developers think of next? :lol:
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#4 samusarmada
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i lol at you
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#5 Weslii
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Lol Halo3s level editor doesn't even come close to a regular level editor.

And level designing is something that has been done on the NES or SNES.
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#6 MrEpyx
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Excitebike.LINKloco

Yeah yeah I know.. I'm not saying Bungie invented level designers on consoles, I know they didn't. But you can't tell me Nintendo isn't adding a completely useless feature to SSBB because they think it will increase hype due to people equating Halo 3 level designing coolness w/ SSBB coolness.

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#8 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Excite Bike, Mach Rider, Nintendo had Map editors since 1985, and 1986 so Halo 3 wasn't the first to have a level editor also this one looks alot better then Halo 3's Forge since Force you couldn't add platforms or pitfalls and the other stuff you can do in SSBB.
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#9 MrEpyx
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Lol Halo3s level editor doesn't even come close to a regular level editor.

And level designing is something that has been done on the NES or SNES.Weslii

Level editors were around long before NES was a twinkle in Nintendo's eye. You sheep think the world revolves around Nintendo, yet last gen you were the laughing stock as was Nintendo. I don't get you guys.. Nintendo spams the world with the Wii, a console that hardly has anything worth playing for more than 15 minutes at a time, and you act as if THEY are doing you favors.

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#10 MrEpyx
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Excite Bike, Mach Rider, Nintendo had Map editors since 1985, and 1986 so Halo 3 wasn't the first to have a level editor also this one looks alot better then Halo 3's Forge since Force you couldn't add platforms or pitfalls and the other stuff you can do in SSBB.Nintendo_Ownes7

WTF??? You can't be serious! Also, I never said Halo 3 was the first game to have a level editor. You fail.

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#11 Cristallis
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Halo copied off Space Invaders.

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#12 PopeReal
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How is a level editor useless? I don't get what you are trying to say.
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#13 Cristallis
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How is a level editor useless? I don't get what you are trying to say.PopeReal

"SSBB is copygins off teh halo 3"

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#14 RahnAetas
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So instead of Level editor "Ala Halo 3"
It's now "Well... uhh... Nintendo wasn't the first to have map editors so there! THBBIT!"

Way to go man, way-to-go.

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i prefer to think of Halo 3 as level editor where SSBB is a complete level creator where you can change the very ground you walk on not to mention you acting like Halo 3 was the first game to have anything like this Nintendo hasbeen doing it for a long time in fact longer than Bungie has been around
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#16 MrEpyx
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How is a level editor useless? I don't get what you are trying to say.PopeReal

what purpose does a level designer have in SSBB other than for Nintendo to make some kind of correlation between the awesomeness of Halo 3 and SSBB?

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#17 PikaPichu
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How is a level editor useless? I don't get what you are trying to say.PopeReal

He's saying that a level editor for a game like SSBB is pretty useless.

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#18 Ontain
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[QUOTE="PopeReal"]How is a level editor useless? I don't get what you are trying to say.MrEpyx

what purpose does a level designer have in SSBB other than for Nintendo to make some kind of correlation between the awesomeness of Halo 3 and SSBB?

the purpose is to allow players to make their own levels? just a thought.

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[QUOTE="PopeReal"]How is a level editor useless? I don't get what you are trying to say.MrEpyx

what purpose does a level designer have in SSBB other than for Nintendo to make some kind of correlation between the awesomeness of Halo 3 and SSBB?

what purpose does a level designer have in timsplitters other than for Eidos to make some kind of correlation between the awesomness of excitebike and timesplitters?

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#20 MrEpyx
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i prefer to think of Halo 3 as level editor where SSBB is a complete level creator where you can change the very ground you walk on not to mention you acting like Halo 3 was the first game to have anything like this Nintendo hasbeen doing it for a long time in fact longer than Bungie has been aroundSerraph105

SSBB doesn't even HAVE levels. It has little 1-screen "arenas".. You guys can't be serious.. I'm going to bow out of this thread, trying to talk to sheep in a civil manner is like trying to convince Al Qaida that they're terrorists.

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#21 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="PopeReal"]How is a level editor useless? I don't get what you are trying to say.MrEpyx

what purpose does a level designer have in SSBB other than for Nintendo to make some kind of correlation between the awesomeness of Halo 3 and SSBB?

uh fun? geez that was hard oh and to keep the game fresh even after the game has been out for months

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#22 RahnAetas
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FYI it does have levels, and yes, you should bail out before you self-own anymore.
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#23 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"]Excitebike.MrEpyx

Yeah yeah I know.. I'm not saying Bungie invented level designers on consoles, I know they didn't. But you can't tell me Nintendo isn't adding a completely useless feature to SSBB because they think it will increase hype due to people equating Halo 3 level designing coolness w/ SSBB coolness.

Get over yourself, Halo fans are not a majority of the gaming community.

Has nothing to do with Halo.. they need to make SSBB last, they allowed you to spawn items anywhere in Melee, so is Halo copying them?

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#24 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Level editor is great for SSBB since SSBB levels can change the Gameplay and you can send the levels to Nintendo and they will pick the best one and send it to every Wii so you can play a different level everyday and it disappears so you have a new experiance each day.

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#25 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]i prefer to think of Halo 3 as level editor where SSBB is a complete level creator where you can change the very ground you walk on not to mention you acting like Halo 3 was the first game to have anything like this Nintendo hasbeen doing it for a long time in fact longer than Bungie has been aroundMrEpyx

SSBB doesn't even HAVE levels. It has little 1-screen "arenas".. You guys can't be serious.. I'm going to bow out of this thread, trying to talk to sheep in a civil manner is like trying to convince Al Qaida that they're terrorists.

bowing out, or running out?

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#26 blahzor
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How is a level creator NOT huge for smash brothers?

I don't get it.. the varied levels are very important to the fun of smash brothers. Are you telling me you honestly think playing on different maps doesn't make a difference?

Forge is not equivalent to Smash Bros level creator. Not in the least.

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#27 crunchUK
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i understood 2 things; SSBB has a level editor, and *whiny comment*. ONE of these is of interest to me.
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#28 _BlueDuck_
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A few points..

  1. Nintendo, and many other developers have been doing map editors long before Halo 3
  2. SSBB's level map editor is far from useless. Infact it seems to be more in depth than Halo 3's..as Halo 3's is a map editor whereas in SSBB, it is a fullmap creator.
  3. This new feature seems to be an expansion on themes and features that have been in the series since the beginning.. to be able to create your own custom games.
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#29 TreyoftheDead
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All I see here is damage control.

Why not have features that add to the replay value of a game?

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[QUOTE="Weslii"]Lol Halo3s level editor doesn't even come close to a regular level editor.

And level designing is something that has been done on the NES or SNES.MrEpyx

Level editors were around long before NES was a twinkle in Nintendo's eye. You sheep think the world revolves around Nintendo, yet last gen you were the laughing stock as was Nintendo. I don't get you guys.. Nintendo spams the world with the Wii, a console that hardly has anything worth playing for more than 15 minutes at a time, and you act as if THEY are doing you favors.

Feel free to name an earlier level designer, given the point of stating excite bike, you'll only be helping the sheeps cause and give them even more lulz.

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#31 Erkidu
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If you think level design is "useless" in SSB - you've obviously never played it to any extent. That adds ENORMOUS replay value. Futhermore, is Forge even a "level editor" or do you just move items around? :roll: This thread fails, because Bungie didn't invent level designers.
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#32 farnham
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so Halo 3 is the inventor of a level editors..

last time i checked even some NES games (Lode Runner) have level editors

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#33 chicken008
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What is wrong with you!? Its not like Halo 3 was the first game you could customize levels in..
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#34 Cristallis
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"]Excitebike.MrEpyx

Yeah yeah I know.. I'm not saying Bungie invented level designers on consoles, I know they didn't. But you can't tell me Nintendo isn't adding a completely useless feature to SSBB because they think it will increase hype due to people equating Halo 3 level designing coolness w/ SSBB coolness.

Halo coolness? :lol:

How is it completely useless? Please explain.

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#35 farnham
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well Nintendo nearly quadrupled their stock value in about 4 years... thats what i call success and barely cheap or laughable.. but whatever guys..
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#36 Cristallis
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[QUOTE="Weslii"]Lol Halo3s level editor doesn't even come close to a regular level editor.

And level designing is something that has been done on the NES or SNES.MrEpyx

Level editors were around long before NES was a twinkle in Nintendo's eye. You sheep think the world revolves around Nintendo, yet last gen you were the laughing stock as was Nintendo. I don't get you guys.. Nintendo spams the world with the Wii, a console that hardly has anything worth playing for more than 15 minutes at a time, and you act as if THEY are doing you favors.

Wow, you're saying Nintendo fans eyes revolve around Nintendo, and nintendo only. Yet you say SSBB is copying Halo of all games

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#37 hazuki87
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How is a level editor not a logical and useful feature on SSBB. And dont compare it to Forge on Halo 3. Sorry but it takes a huge fanboy to turn some huge announcement like this into a minus for Nintendo.
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#38 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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MrEpyx. I will remember you for your epic failure of a thread.

Seriously, how did you think this was a good idea?

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#39 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="MrEpyx"]

[QUOTE="PopeReal"]How is a level editor useless? I don't get what you are trying to say.Ontain

what purpose does a level designer have in SSBB other than for Nintendo to make some kind of correlation between the awesomeness of Halo 3 and SSBB?

the purpose is to allow players to make their own levels? just a thought.

Lmao. You owned that n00b hard and good. Way to go. There are heaps of games that have a level editor. Halo 3 and SSBB are part of the pile. Get real. Not everything revolves around Halo 3.

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#40 clone01
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[QUOTE="PopeReal"]How is a level editor useless? I don't get what you are trying to say.MrEpyx

what purpose does a level designer have in SSBB other than for Nintendo to make some kind of correlation between the awesomeness of Halo 3 and SSBB?

seems cool to me. and really, Halo 3 isn't so much of a level editor as it is an object creator.

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#41 osan0
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why wouldnt agame like brawl benefit from a level editor?
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#42 KeeperofDingo
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Halo clearly invented everything.
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#43 haziqonfire
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Useless feature?
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#44 Airacomet
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Useless thread...
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#45 laulaulaulau
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you mad
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#46 TalesofRaGnArOk
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I think you forgot the part where it said that you could share these maps via wifi, and that you could send them to Nintendo, which would vote for which one is best, then send them to every wii owner who has the game (via wifi). Nintendo just made itself richer by making Brawl 120% better than it already was.
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#47 coltonnaslund
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The level Editor in Halo 3 was pointless.....trust me...I owned the game for like a month....got bored and sold it because the game was a huge letdown

The SSBB editor seems pretty sweet...and getting a new level EVERY DAY!!!

SSBB 2008 GOTY

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#48 Hyrule-master
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halo 3 does not have a level designer. more like an item designer.
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Whenever i'm feeling down, I know somebody out there will be thinking of me. Thx...I feel alot happier now.
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#50 Hexagon_777
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Halo clearly invented everything.KeeperofDingo

Halo is God?! :o