Multiplayer gaming was better in the late 90's and 00's by far

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#1 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Multiplayer gaming use to be something special and fun in the late 90's and 00's but publisher greed and the lack of good MP games have tarnished it. These days MP feels like a dirty word associated with lootboxes and microstractions the days of just having competitive fun feels lost forever. I don't think we can go back to what it was the companies just want to milk you for every cent you own it's a shame.

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#2  Edited By tormentos
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@warmblur said:

Multiplayer gaming use to be something special and fun in the late 90's and 00's but publisher greed and the lack of good MP games have tarnished it. These days MP feels like a dirty word associated with lootboxes and microstractions the days of just having competitive fun feels lost forever. I don't think we can go back to what it was the companies just want to milk you for every cent you own it's a shame.

Thanks MS for it before they introduce micro transactions most of that shit was free,if you payed for something would have probably be an expansion in the true sense of the word,on PC basically that was free,i remember the endless maps and crap i got free for games like command and conquer,UT and others.

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#3  Edited By uninspiredcup
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You're 100% correct. 1998 -2001 was the shit.

Even if we exclude microtransactions and loot-boxes, it has a huge emphasizes on RPG like grind, where balance is non-existent.

Even genres tightly built around balance have had games, that, really had very little chance of failing, completely fall on their ass due to was it tantamount to Pay2win.

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#4 SolidGame_basic
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I think some of that stuff is being scaled back. For example, the new Call of Duty will not have a season pass.

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#5 pyro1245
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I agree.

It was also a time when most games allowed you to host a private server.

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#6 VFighter
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@SolidGame_basic: They said the same thing for Blops4, no season pass and no microtransactions, it ended up with both I believe weeks after launch.

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#7 deactivated-5d0a4c3876874
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You mean the time that fighting games couldn't have been played online ?

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#8 Ghosts4ever
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Meh. Multiplayer gaming always suck.

its only fun for 10 minutes than get boring fast.

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#9  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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Whenever my friends and I get together under the same roof for a gaming night, most of the time, we still break out the N64. The best multiplayer console ever!

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#10  Edited By 2Chalupas
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I remember being able to play Half-Life and Counter-Strike online around the turn of the millennium, and being able to browse full server lists, find the ones with the best ping or options I wanted, or just setup my own server with my own settings and immediately have a bunch of people come join the game. No frills, no BS "matchmaking", just find your server and start playing.

So yeah, it probably was better since most games don't let you do that now.

Of course, those were basically the only games I played online back then. I guess you could say there are ridiculously more options now.

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#11 Archangel3371
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While I do agree that lootboxes and micro transactions can certainly suck the fun out of games I think that in general multiplayer gaming is definitely more fun now then it has been in the past. There’s just so much more variety in online multiplayer gaming then there’s ever been.

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#12  Edited By Gatygun
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warcraft 3 mods, pokemon mmo, tower defense games, dota, best lord of the rings defend the wall game. So many insanely good games for free in it. The absolute best game maker and all for free.

half life mods, playing a real dragon ball z fighter with loads of people fighting, transforming etc and shooting beams at eachother. collecting dragon balls to become stronger etc. so good.

Playing overwatch already as wc3 mod in half life was great. Teleporting with counterstrike to corners, being invisible etc etc. Far infront of anything else.

quake 3 mods, urban terror probably a even better shooter then counter strike, dragon ball z mods, naruto fighting mods

And all of it online not gated in anyway.

Times where good man. Creativity was absolutely fantastic. And players provided what gamers wanted to play and the industry falled short.

Good times.


Hell even the most populaire games at this point are all copy past materials of mods in the past for free.

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#13 with_teeth26
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in terms of big AAA games, its not what it used to be.

there are tons of great MP games on PC in the mid-tier range though. I spend a lot of my gaming time on those (stuff like Mordhau, Insurgency series, Rising Storm series etc.)

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#14 Sevenizz
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As an online multiplayer gamer, you are 100% wrong. Couch multiplayer suffers from availability of that extra player, one screen, multiple controllers, and the scarcity of the feature implemented in games. Online gaming eliminates all of that.

Also, as a multiplayer gamer, I never buy loot boxes or microtransactions - ever as they are mostly for cosmetic purposes and don’t affect the gameplay. Pay to win scenarios are almost always ironed out or regulated to mobile.

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#15 R4gn4r0k
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I'm still having a ton of fun with friends...

But yeah, it seems a lot of these shooters (COD, Battlefield, Fortnite, Rainbow Six, CSGO, PUBG) all revolve around making you spend the most money on the most stupid shit. That you will lose anyway once you stop playing the game.

I mean 30 bucks for a hammer?

I can buy two full games for that amount.

30 bucks?

Are you kidding me?

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#16 Zaryia
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Still great options on PC.

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#17 Pedro
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I am not sure if agree the multiplayer was better. It was more coming of age than better. The online experience is so much more refine now than the lagginess of older multiplayer games. What really suffered was the willingness to experiment and try new stuff.

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#18  Edited By Kali-B1rd
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I blame consoles for most of this, and I stand behind that claim even now. Matchmaking has killed any social aspect of Multiplayer games... let alone anything else.

The age of dedicated servers was the peak of online multiplayer from a shooter perspective.

MMO's were at their peak in the early days of WoW and even before that.

Now EVERY SINGLE online experience is:

1) Instant Matchmaking - but never speak to these people again, build no relationships, never meet the same people twice. Hurl insults because why not?

2) Dumbed down simplified game mechanics, and no real class-dependant game modes... because f*ck REQUIRING people to ACTUALLY work together.

3) Instant gratification reward systems... every modern MMO just throws Epics at you for LOGGING IN (exaguration).

I couldn't care less about most upcoming games. the only game I'm looking forward to is World of Warcraft: Classic. I don't care if its 2004 graphics.... no godamn matchmaking, no carebear welfare epics... actual social interaction required.

This automated instant-gratification "everyone deserves everything" modern gaming is just watered down shit.

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#19 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@zaryia said:

Still great options on PC.

Not as great though remember the good old days when you where allowed to mod the battlefield games and rents servers BF was a million times better back then 1942-2142. BF was at it's best and online gaming in general on PC was better devs where more friendly to modders now the modding scene is dead for alot AAA MP games. I remember Medal of Honor Allied Assault had some amazing custom maps and mods too it's just not the same anymore everything is shut off to the public filled with crappy DLC and lootboxes. I miss the days when we would get expansion packs to me that was the golden era of PC gaming and MP.

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#20 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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At least private party chat is much better than the old public chat where you could hear every idiot spouting idiocy and then had to manually mute them.

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#21 dxmcat
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@ghosts4ever said:

Meh. Multiplayer gaming always suck.

its only fun for 10 minutes than get boring fast.

Not everyone can handle a challenge :P

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#22 Son-Goku7523
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I totally agree. That era was the golden age of multiplayer gaming.

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#23 ermacness
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@vfighter:

Ummm no it wasn't. As a matter of fact, BO4 received some slight criticism because they were still on the season pass bandwagon, while their main competitor (bfv) dropped it. The reason why it was only "slight" was because after that initial trailer for bfv, fans and the community wasn't too happy about it, so when they made the "no premium pass" announcement, it went over most of the userbase as "ho humish".