MS's Shannon Loftis says that all Scorpio launch titles will run at native 4K.

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#1  Edited By nygamespotter
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In an interview about ReCore the general manager of Microsoft Studios touched on Xbox exclusives and Xbox gaming besides ReCore talk.

Next year will be big for Xbox, as it rolls out its Project Scorpio console to compete with Sony and the rival PlayStation 4. The more powerful PS4 Pro will launch in November.

Loftis says Microsoft is already exploring virtual reality options and games for Xbox, which will support VR with Scorpio, as well as prepping titles for the boost in visual quality. "Any games we're making that we're launching in the Scorpio time frame, we're making sure they can natively render at 4K."

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/gaming/2016/09/15/microsofts-loftis-xbox-gaming-and-scorpio/90408722/?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-5NYtnfHgUKcOfI6IK4xUnA

This is huge in my opinion, Vega has been basically confirmed at this point.

Lock at sub-2160p if old.

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#2  Edited By iandizion713
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Im thinking theyll do it. Go all in on native 4K. Theyll just design the console to do it. This will force Sony to release another one the following year.

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All they're doing is building hype and its not by announcing the fact that all launch titles will be upscaled to 4k that you're building anything to make everyone excited. Scorpio is just like DX12, 300k servers, Kinect 2.0 or Teh Cloud... a bunch of bullshit at this point.

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#4  Edited By iandizion713
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@silversix_: Dude said native 4K, not upscaled. He also stated ANY game released during Scorpio's time frame will be native 4K. Thats a boss move right there. Scorpio aint nothing to fack with. That beach stings.

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@silversix_: Salt.

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That's doable for 4k/30fps, if you don't mind playing at pc equivalents of medium settings. Certainly not bad looking.

A factory OC'd 390X, which Scorpio's GPU will be slightly more powerful than and have likely two generation newer architecture, can render games in 4K at Ultra/Very High settings at 30 FPS.

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@joebones5000 said:

That's doable for 4k/30fps, if you don't mind playing at pc equivalents of medium settings. Certainly not bad looking.

Assuming it's not using Vega, a 390X can easily do 4K 30fps at max settings. At console settings, 60fps is a given, if there are no bottlenecks.

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@joebones5000: Exactly. That is what most 4k games would be aiming for. Most of the times high and medium are marginally different but the performance hit is not worth it. At the end of the day, devs can pick and choose features that can give the best visual quality. The same would apply for the PS4Pro.

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@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@silversix_: Salt.

With all the lies since 2013, its hard to be salty.

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RIP PS4 Pro

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#12  Edited By freedomfreak
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According to Sony, they can still say they're 4K even when upscaled. No worries, Microsoft.

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#13  Edited By nathanbats
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.Scorpio=Waste of money.stick with the original console gamers(my advice not forcing you)

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#14 Pedro
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@nathanbats: It's not a waste to millions of console gamers. You would think with all the "master race" bullshit that such a simple concept of gamers preferring to game on console would not be so difficult to understand.

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So the games won't look graphically any better then Pro then...... sharper but no extra effects.

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#16  Edited By nathanbats
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@Pedro: I said IMO.I understand that a lot of people want the Scorpio and I know why.Also,I'm not a hermit.

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#17 Pedro
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@nathanbats: Why share your opinion on a section of gaming you don't care for? Console gamers buy consoles and don't care for PC gaming. Stating your opinion that it's better to upgrade a PC is a misplaced statement.

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#18 nathanbats
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@Pedro: This is not only my opinion,but also my advice for people who ask for advice on getting the Scorpio or staying with the original.I like to discuss and state my opinion on everything gaming even if I don't like what's being discussed.

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#19  Edited By dynamitecop
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@Pedro: This is not only my opinion,but also my advice for people who ask for advice on getting the Scorpio or staying with the original.I like to discuss and state my opinion on everything gaming even if I don't like what's being discussed.

Why would your advice for people who want a console be to get a PC? Consumers are not inherently stupid, most anyways, they go into buying what they want and it's not like PC and its benefits are unknown, but some people just want consoles.

Anyways, I'm not having this discussion, there's always one contrarian in a thread and it seems to be you, stick to what you like and don't worry about what everyone else is doing, we don't need or want your advice.

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#20  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@nathanbats: You make no sense...

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@dynamitecop: you misunderstand,when I meant advice I meant getting the Scorpio is a waste of money(so they stick with the original not that I am forcing them)part not the PC part.

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@hrt_rulz01: what I said to dynamite cop

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@iandizion713 said:

@silversix_: Dude said native 4K, not upscaled. He also stated ANY game released during Scorpio's time frame will be native 4K. Thats a boss move right there. Scorpio aint nothing to fack with. That beach stings.

Don't waste your time. He has a hate hard on for MS. Its going to defecate on PS Poo.

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@nathanbats said:

@dynamitecop: you misunderstand,when I meant advice I meant getting the Scorpio is a waste of money(so they stick with the original not that I am forcing them)part not the PC part.

How is it a waste of money if you move to or own a 4K TV?

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#25 Pedro
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@nathanbats: There are only two options for people who prefer to game on console if they want 4, PS4Pro or Scorpio. Stating that they should update their computer instead is conveniently missing the point and adding a useless contribution. It reminds me of people who ask if X game on the PC has controller support and people respond "why would you want to use a controller?". Useless contribution.

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#26  Edited By Howmakewood
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Well if it's 6tflops gpu with sufficient memory bandwidth I don't see why it couldn't run games @4k/30fps dont have to be ultra settings, if the mock up images hold any truth Scorpio should be sporting 12gb memory leaving more available vram than the old model/ps4 pro.

This topic was about the possibilities of the Scorpio, not about how pointless it is or not.

That being said I have no intention of getting the Scorpio as I can play em all on my PC and will be getting ps4 pro, so save the lem accusations.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@nathanbats: You make no sense...

Sure he does. He prefers PS so he will advise others to buy anything but Xbox.

@dynamitecop said:
@nathanbats said:

@dynamitecop: you misunderstand,when I meant advice I meant getting the Scorpio is a waste of money(so they stick with the original not that I am forcing them)part not the PC part.

How is it a waste of money if you move to or own a 4K TV?

Or if its your own money which each of us get to decide what is of value for?

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#30  Edited By nathanbats
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@hrt_rulz01: @dynamitecop: @Pedro: I made an edit

@cainetao11: the Scorpio only has 4K HDR and 60 fps(probably)but not new exclusives ( which is a good thing the gen hasn't ended yet)and im not interested in these mid gen upgrades anyway.it's ok if you like Xbox more.

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@nathanbats said:

@hrt_rulz01: @dynamitecop: @Pedro: I made an edit

@cainetao11: if they have Xbox one or Xbox one s then don't buy Xbox Scorpio,it's ok if you like Xbox more.

Why would you not buy Scorpio even if you own an Xbox One or Xbox One S and you own a 4K TV?

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@nathanbats: If a gamer is looking for a 4k experience, the PS4 Pro and Scorpio are viable options. Sticking with the 1080p versions of the systems under utilizes the 4k display. A 4k display with no 4k content is a greater waste.

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I honestly prefer if the console gives me the chance to choose between resolutions. I'll take a lower res mode that allows me to run games at high frame rates and graphical settings than mediocre 4k.

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@cainetao11 said:
@iandizion713 said:

@silversix_: Dude said native 4K, not upscaled. He also stated ANY game released during Scorpio's time frame will be native 4K. Thats a boss move right there. Scorpio aint nothing to fack with. That beach stings.

Don't waste your time. He has a hate hard on for MS. Its going to defecate on PS Poo.

Doesn't take much to unleash a load on the Poo. Even the NX may do it.

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#35  Edited By nathanbats
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@Pedro: again this is my opinion and my advice.get the Scorpio or whatever you want if you don't want it

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#36  Edited By nygamespotter
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@joebones5000 said:
@nygamespotter said:
@joebones5000 said:

That's doable for 4k/30fps, if you don't mind playing at pc equivalents of medium settings. Certainly not bad looking.

Assuming it's not using Vega, a 390X can easily do 4K 30fps at max settings. At console settings, 60fps is a given, if there are no bottlenecks.

The 390x is a bit faster than that 390 there, but interesting . I'd say at console settings, the mix of high/medium, we're looking at maybe 45fps with a 390x. I doubt 60, but time will tell.

Couldn't find one with a 390X, point stands though because as you mentioned it's better than the 390.

Now that you mention it, graphics settings don't scale that linearly on higher resolutions, still, I have no doubts that a 6TF GPU can do 4K at max/high settings easily.

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@silversix_ said:
@cainetao11 said:
@iandizion713 said:

@silversix_: Dude said native 4K, not upscaled. He also stated ANY game released during Scorpio's time frame will be native 4K. Thats a boss move right there. Scorpio aint nothing to fack with. That beach stings.

Don't waste your time. He has a hate hard on for MS. Its going to defecate on PS Poo.

Doesn't take much to unleash a load on the Poo. Even the NX may do it.

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@dynamitecop: @Pedro: I'm tired,going to answer you in the morning.

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Native 4k huh?

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@Pedro said:

@nathanbats: Why share your opinion on a section of gaming you don't care for? Console gamers buy consoles and don't care for PC gaming. Stating your opinion that it's better to upgrade a PC is a misplaced statement.

I'm a console gamer but I don't see any reason to continue down that path really. Brands are becoming more and more PC like.....yet they won't ever be as good as PC.

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@silversix_ said:

All they're doing is building hype and its not by announcing the fact that all launch titles will be upscaled to 4k that you're building anything to make everyone excited. Scorpio is just like DX12, 300k servers, Kinect 2.0 or Teh Cloud... a bunch of bullshit at this point.

You dumb? DX12 exists. And by the way MS has seven or eight data centers worldwide. Halo 5, Gears, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall all use dedicated servers maybe you should research before posting? Whats wrong with Kinect, what bullshit are you referring to? Cloud? You missed the crackdown demos?

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Scalable graphics? If so, this is cool. Better than the PS-BARELY4K.

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@loe12k said:
@silversix_ said:

All they're doing is building hype and its not by announcing the fact that all launch titles will be upscaled to 4k that you're building anything to make everyone excited. Scorpio is just like DX12, 300k servers, Kinect 2.0 or Teh Cloud... a bunch of bullshit at this point.

You dumb? DX12 exists. And by the way MS has seven or eight data centers worldwide. Halo 5, Gears, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall all use dedicated servers maybe you should research before posting? Whats wrong with Kinect, what bullshit are you referring to? Cloud? You missed the crackdown demos?

Crackdown? That thing still coming out? lol. MS is all talk and no substance.

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@silversix_ said:
@loe12k said:
@silversix_ said:

All they're doing is building hype and its not by announcing the fact that all launch titles will be upscaled to 4k that you're building anything to make everyone excited. Scorpio is just like DX12, 300k servers, Kinect 2.0 or Teh Cloud... a bunch of bullshit at this point.

You dumb? DX12 exists. And by the way MS has seven or eight data centers worldwide. Halo 5, Gears, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall all use dedicated servers maybe you should research before posting? Whats wrong with Kinect, what bullshit are you referring to? Cloud? You missed the crackdown demos?

Crackdown? That thing still coming out? lol. MS is all talk and no substance.

It was announced 2 years ago. How long do you guys wait for AAA exclusives again? MS will have released 4 AAA exclusives this year, plus one AA title. Sony will have released one title Uncharted 4. MS can afford to hold back games and give them more time to release.

Sony big title for the rest of the year is Last Guardian a game that has taken 10 years lol

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@nathanbats said:

@hrt_rulz01: @dynamitecop: @Pedro: I made an edit

@cainetao11: the Scorpio only has 4K HDR and 60 fps(probably)but not new exclusives ( which is a good thing the gen hasn't ended yet)and im not interested in these mid gen upgrades anyway.it's ok if you like Xbox more.

Oh thank you for your blessing lol

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#46  Edited By silversix_
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@loe12k said:
@silversix_ said:
@loe12k said:
@silversix_ said:

All they're doing is building hype and its not by announcing the fact that all launch titles will be upscaled to 4k that you're building anything to make everyone excited. Scorpio is just like DX12, 300k servers, Kinect 2.0 or Teh Cloud... a bunch of bullshit at this point.

You dumb? DX12 exists. And by the way MS has seven or eight data centers worldwide. Halo 5, Gears, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall all use dedicated servers maybe you should research before posting? Whats wrong with Kinect, what bullshit are you referring to? Cloud? You missed the crackdown demos?

Crackdown? That thing still coming out? lol. MS is all talk and no substance.

It was announced 2 years ago. How long do you guys wait for AAA exclusives again? MS will have released 4 AAA exclusives this year, plus one AA title. Sony will have released one title Uncharted 4. MS can afford to hold back games and give them more time to release.

Sony big title for the rest of the year is Last Guardian a game that has taken 10 years lol

Why are you referring to Sony exclusives when Crackdown is not exclusive?

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@silversix_ said:
@loe12k said:
@silversix_ said:

All they're doing is building hype and its not by announcing the fact that all launch titles will be upscaled to 4k that you're building anything to make everyone excited. Scorpio is just like DX12, 300k servers, Kinect 2.0 or Teh Cloud... a bunch of bullshit at this point.

You dumb? DX12 exists. And by the way MS has seven or eight data centers worldwide. Halo 5, Gears, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall all use dedicated servers maybe you should research before posting? Whats wrong with Kinect, what bullshit are you referring to? Cloud? You missed the crackdown demos?

Crackdown? That thing still coming out? lol. MS is all talk and no substance.

Really? It was announced 2 years ago. When Sony has TLG on an 8 year dev time, there is no mud to sling at Crackdown

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#48 loe12k
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@silversix_ said:
@loe12k said:
@silversix_ said:
@loe12k said:
@silversix_ said:

All they're doing is building hype and its not by announcing the fact that all launch titles will be upscaled to 4k that you're building anything to make everyone excited. Scorpio is just like DX12, 300k servers, Kinect 2.0 or Teh Cloud... a bunch of bullshit at this point.

You dumb? DX12 exists. And by the way MS has seven or eight data centers worldwide. Halo 5, Gears, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall all use dedicated servers maybe you should research before posting? Whats wrong with Kinect, what bullshit are you referring to? Cloud? You missed the crackdown demos?

Crackdown? That thing still coming out? lol. MS is all talk and no substance.

It was announced 2 years ago. How long do you guys wait for AAA exclusives again? MS will have released 4 AAA exclusives this year, plus one AA title. Sony will have released one title Uncharted 4. MS can afford to hold back games and give them more time to release.

Sony big title for the rest of the year is Last Guardian a game that has taken 10 years lol

Why are you referring to Sony exclusives when Crackdown is not exclusive?

Is the game not funded and paid for by Microsoft? Learn what a console exclusive is please!

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@cainetao11 said:
@nathanbats said:

@hrt_rulz01: @dynamitecop: @Pedro: I made an edit

@cainetao11: the Scorpio only has 4K HDR and 60 fps(probably)but not new exclusives ( which is a good thing the gen hasn't ended yet)and im not interested in these mid gen upgrades anyway.it's ok if you like Xbox more.

Oh thank you for your blessing lol

Lol, we can sleep easier now...

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@cainetao11 said:
@silversix_ said:
@loe12k said:
@silversix_ said:

All they're doing is building hype and its not by announcing the fact that all launch titles will be upscaled to 4k that you're building anything to make everyone excited. Scorpio is just like DX12, 300k servers, Kinect 2.0 or Teh Cloud... a bunch of bullshit at this point.

You dumb? DX12 exists. And by the way MS has seven or eight data centers worldwide. Halo 5, Gears, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall all use dedicated servers maybe you should research before posting? Whats wrong with Kinect, what bullshit are you referring to? Cloud? You missed the crackdown demos?

Crackdown? That thing still coming out? lol. MS is all talk and no substance.

Really? It was announced 2 years ago. When Sony has TLG on an 8 year dev time, there is no mud to sling at Crackdown

TLG is made by a quality dev that made quality titles. Crackdown as a series is mediocre at best and the only reason this thing is even talked about is because "it used to be" a Bone exclusive. Now that its not an exclusive anymore, no one ever mentions thing.