MS to win Next Gen and take Huge Market Share from Sony = $400 Undercut

I guess your "average joe" who doesn't give a shit about PC and just wants to scream in someone's ear in Fortnite/COD/whatever, will still not give a shit if it's on PC - pricetag is always the factor...

I mean look just look at the mobo i'd buy right now if new AMD CPU lineup wasn't (presumably) just few months away. It costs as much what people expect to buy a whole console for...

@SolidGame_basic: It’s not even close to being diverse. Sony doesn’t have a quality shooter or racer exclusive in the vein of a Halo or Forza. GT or Driveclub does not compare to 6 available Forza games (more with BC) and Killzone vs the entire Halo collection and Halo 5? Gimmie a break. Shooters and racers are gaming’s biggest genres. Sony fails in these options.

Also, how does PC available games change what I can play on my Xbox One X? It doesn’t and it’s a non argument.

Please stop Halo 5 was outsold silly by Uncharted without even problems so did spiderman and GOW i am sure,those games don't move masses Halo is a tire old series,and Forza is selling some more copies because it is on PC as well.

Racing games are amoung the stales genres out there,side by side with fighting games basically.

I have been hearing this pathetic argument for generations,oh but Sony doesn't have a good racer sony doesn't have a good FPS,is pathetic man who cares the majority of firt person shooter gamers are on COD or other type of games not on Halo.

It doesn't but it make the xbox a redundant platform,if i can get xbox games on PC why in hell would i need an xbox,hell on PC xbox live is Free,so yeah it is a big argument.

@tormentos: ‘I have been hearing this pathetic argument for generations,oh but Sony doesn't have a good racer sony doesn't have a good FPS’

You’ve been hearing that argument for generations because it’s true.

What does Uncharted, Spiderman, or God of War sales have to do with Sony not having a quality FPS ala the Halo franchise? The hell are you talking about?

Yes and for generations i have watch the PS chew and spit the xbox in everything else.

The point is simple you don't have as good games as those on xbox,sure as hell gears is no uncharted,nor sea of thives is spiderman. And so on you will get the idea.

@tormentos: Taste is relative, you realize. I don’t play movie or anime games so the playstation brand is useless for me.

@Sevenizz: Every time somebody says "movie games" and they aren't talking about telltale games or Detroit Become Human style games (can't think of that developers name) they just sound like a complete idiot.

@Sevenizz: well that's YOU.

I don't think there is any way in hell the XSX will be $400. However, if they somehow pulled off that black magic then it would sell extremely well. However (once again), I expect it to be $500 at the very minimum.

One of my company laptops performed Windows 10 update and it resulted in no-OS boot error. LOL. F******* MS.

My mobo costs about two consoles.

Good for you, lol.

"Just wait" perfectly describes why i can't PC overhaul yet.
Well, just 2 more days to that GTC 2020 NVIDIA event, which may or may not unveil new GPU's, AMD is quiet about new CPU'S/chipset... Bummer.

@ronvalencia: What happened? Did it delete the boot sector or wipe the entire drive?

Also isn't there in Win 10 an option to switch between two 'target" categories, one for "mainstream" - where you basically are the "beta tester" and "for company use" - which usually came like 2 months later, however with most of the early 'issues' removed? I have localized Win, so excuse me if i'm talking in weird terms...

MS used to have this feature in Win 10's setting for years, did they remove it?

Well you need to tell some of these folk that. Because to the masses it seems like people would rather watch Sony movies, than to play MS games. Even reviewers tend to lean more on Sony's movies than MS's games.

Forbes even thinks it's possible the XSX will come in at $400 per revenge against Sony.

Well then Forbes is equally dumb.

No, the XsX won't be $400. MS will not take that big of a loss. They may try to match the PS5's price, but it won't be cheaper. What other reasons is there to buy the XsX besides a few more pixels in some games? Most people who already own the PS4 won't go over to Xbox that easily.

Doesn't that mean it wont happen :)

Yes well next time you will make an argument say it is for YOU and don't try to pass it as a FACT for everyone i don't like Racers and FPS have grown stale on me as well,there you go the xbox us useless to me.

But the fact that you call PS games movies is basically the best point anyone can make to descrive what happen with lemmings,you simply hate the success PS have so you reduce your self to call the movies,and if Gears wasn't a game with plently oc cut scenes and crap like that or Quantum break fact is there were simply not as good that is all.

But i get it you prefer sea of thieves,crackdown and garbage like that because as long as it has online it doesn't matter if the game suck ass.

Yeah it make total sense.

I can picture MS already ""ok lets get revenge on sony by losing 4 billions on the series X is brilliant,i am sure we will end Sony once and for all"".

@tormentos: ‘ Yes well next time you will make an argument say it is for YOU ‘

I did. L2read.

@Sevenizz:

Look at the first post I quote from you on this page no you were talking in general.

First, 'losing buckets of money' isn't good business.

Second, MS have shown they aren't into direct competitions.

And thirdly, hardware doesn't matter, its about the games. And since MS dumped Xbox exclusives, I have very little interest in their consoles. Just play whatever on the PC.

Repaired the bootloader and the corporate laptop has Toshiba SSD. Corp laptop is configured for MS Outlook/MS Office, Adobe PDF Pro, VPN and RDP (accounting software installed on RDP servers). A spare corporate laptop was issued instead.

Outside of IT world, I have recommended PS4, Apple Macs and DELL PCs for IT challenged family relatives (I don't want to be their free IT support). XBO was an inferior box per $$ when compared to PS4. This is why I have access to PS3 and PS4 games.

AMD just released mainstream PCI-E 4.0 B550 based motherboards.

@vfighter: Meanwhile, LoU2’s controversy is stemming from its ‘story (aka movie element)’ and not a word about the gameplay.

@Sevenizz: Your point is...?

I don't care about "mainstream" though...>.>

Luck? As in "i hope you saved up enough"? XD

Microsoft went full PC in next gen so they will win.

beside PC has been wining every generation.

Read my sig with X570.

I have been selling my Intel Haswell era gaming PCs to cover my Ryzen 9 + X570 build.

I sold my ASUS TUF Z87 motherboard to a smaller home builder who needs a slightly up-to-date PC for accounting+MS Office type roles.

AMD's B550 is similar to Intel's RocketLake.

Intel Rocketlake

https://videocardz.com/newz/exclusive-intel-rocket-lake-s-features-pci-express-4-0-xe-graphics

VS

AMD B550

Both Intel Rocketlake and AMD B550 has PCI-E 4.0 with CPU's PEG slots and NVMe, but the south-bridge side has PCI-E 3.0

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AMD's X570 has PCI-E 4.0 for CPU's PEG and NMVe, and southbridge side.

Against next-gen consoles, new PCs should have Intel Rocketlake or AMD B550.

@ronvalencia: Okay, but my point was that i'm aiming for high-end, which means upcomming AMD Zen 3 CPU (?4800X/4900X?) and chipset (?X670?), though... I don't even bother with Intel since i woke up to that cringefest on May 1st 2020.

Just like i'm waiting for new line up of NVIDIA GPU's (?RTX 3080/3080Ti?).

BTW, i think @mclarenmaster18 was responding to me, since he clearly has signatures available - just misquoted a post ;)

After the 360/PS3 years, I'm only ever buying one of them, this time it was PS4, next it's X1X, the cheaper the better though.

I'm still expecting to pay $500 but obviously would be great for it to be $400.

Yep, 5 bills seems like a great price considering X1X was launched at that price just a few years ago.

2021-2022 or so, yeah, $300.00 - $400.00 will likely be the norm.