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#1 chulomex3

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Fact.

XBL is even has better features than PC online games. True PC was out first and has gotten pretty good (no arguing that) but for being out only 2 gens XBL has stuff that I don't have for a lot of my PC games...I won't even compare it with PS3 or *laugh* Nintendo....

The xbox has had a well thought out online system.

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#3 the-very-best

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PSN will eventually turn out to be very similar to XBL so I wouldn't bash it just yet.

PC online is still the best, no doubt.

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#4 cobrax25

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considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

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#5 BigDizz

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People act like $50 a year is so much....

Most games nowadays cost more than that

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#6 mjarantilla

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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

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#7 cobrax25

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

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#8 mjarantilla

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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

I don't mean JUST demos. I mean demos, game trailers, movie trailers, music videos, themes, etc., etc. I'll even throw in XBL Video Marketplace in there, and the new XBL IPTV service due later this year.

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#9 klabut

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PSN will eventually turn out to be very similar to XBL so I wouldn't bash it just yet.

PC online is still the best, no doubt.
the-very-best

Ya nearly 6 months after launch they will copy it's exact features.:lol:

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#10 cobrax25

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

I don't mean JUST demos. I mean demos, game trailers, movie trailers, music videos, themes, etc., etc. I'll even throw in XBL Video Marketplace in there, and the new XBL IPTV service due later this year.

yes things like game trailers are there, along with themes and such, but again thats really not very important when on a PC finding a movie trailer is always 2 clicks away. BTW, services like Video Marketplace and IPTV have been around for a long long time now on the PC.

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#11 the-very-best

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]PSN will eventually turn out to be very similar to XBL so I wouldn't bash it just yet.

PC online is still the best, no doubt.
klabut

Ya nearly 6 months after launch they will copy it's exact features.:lol:

Yeah, probably, and it will be for free.

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#12 lawlessx

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[QUOTE="klabut"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]PSN will eventually turn out to be very similar to XBL so I wouldn't bash it just yet.

PC online is still the best, no doubt.
the-very-best

Ya nearly 6 months after launch they will copy it's exact features.:lol:

Yeah, probably, and it will be for free.

true..microsoft better add something huge to xbox live before sony starts getting their act together, like " be able to download sega dreamcast games right into your XBOX360!!!" :)

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#13 mjarantilla

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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

I don't mean JUST demos. I mean demos, game trailers, movie trailers, music videos, themes, etc., etc. I'll even throw in XBL Video Marketplace in there, and the new XBL IPTV service due later this year.

yes things like game trailers are there, along with themes and such, but again thats really not very important when on a PC finding a movie trailer is always 2 clicks away. BTW, services like Video Marketplace and IPTV have been around for a long long time now on the PC.

Heh, you mean Unbox and iTunes? CinemaNow and Movielink? Please. Does Unbox even have HD available? Or 5.1 Dolby DIgital or DTS? I know iTunes doesn't. Hell, iTunes barely has 240p videos.

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#14 johnusabeis

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PSN will eventually turn out to be very similar to XBL so I wouldn't bash it just yet.

PC online is still the best, no doubt.
the-very-best

ya...psn will be similar after MS paves the way for them. if it keeps up like that then XBL will always be 1 step ahead.

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#15 mjarantilla

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[QUOTE="klabut"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]PSN will eventually turn out to be very similar to XBL so I wouldn't bash it just yet.

PC online is still the best, no doubt.
the-very-best

Ya nearly 6 months after launch they will copy it's exact features.:lol:

Yeah, probably, and it will be for free.

You realize that the only feature of XBL that costs money is online gameplay, and that only about 10% of the market actually plays online, right?

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#16 billing

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="klabut"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]PSN will eventually turn out to be very similar to XBL so I wouldn't bash it just yet.

PC online is still the best, no doubt.
mjarantilla

Ya nearly 6 months after launch they will copy it's exact features.:lol:

Yeah, probably, and it will be for free.

You realize that the only feature of XBL that costs money is online gameplay, and that only about 10% of the market actually plays online, right?

I heard Konami cut support for MGS3 online.

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#17 cobrax25

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

I don't mean JUST demos. I mean demos, game trailers, movie trailers, music videos, themes, etc., etc. I'll even throw in XBL Video Marketplace in there, and the new XBL IPTV service due later this year.

yes things like game trailers are there, along with themes and such, but again thats really not very important when on a PC finding a movie trailer is always 2 clicks away. BTW, services like Video Marketplace and IPTV have been around for a long long time now on the PC.

Heh, you mean Unbox and iTunes? CinemaNow and Movielink? Please. Does Unbox even have HD available? Or 5.1 Dolby DIgital or DTS? I know iTunes doesn't. Hell, iTunes barely has 240p videos.

No, remember XP Media Center....and thats not the only TV service out there. +online movie downloads have been around for a while, I believe Netflix just opened up their own service.

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#18 cheezisgoooood

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PSN will eventually turn out to be very similar to XBL so I wouldn't bash it just yet.

PC online is still the best, no doubt.
the-very-best

PSN will always be "free" and will therefore always be vastly inferior to Xbox Live. It will cost Sony even more of a fortune than the PS3 is already costing them (They TOOK OUT the emotion engine for the PAL release just to help finances!) to be able to compete with Xbox Live's features.

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#19 BK-Sleeper

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People act like $50 a year is so much....
Most games nowadays cost more than that
BigDizz

WoW for example, and even that is still fun.

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#20 PS3_3DO

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64. cobrax25

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

I don't mean JUST demos. I mean demos, game trailers, movie trailers, music videos, themes, etc., etc. I'll even throw in XBL Video Marketplace in there, and the new XBL IPTV service due later this year.

yes things like game trailers are there, along with themes and such, but again thats really not very important when on a PC finding a movie trailer is always 2 clicks away. BTW, services like Video Marketplace and IPTV have been around for a long long time now on the PC.

Dude don't try and argue about this. XBL is the best gaming, multimedia service out now. PC online can not match it and that's a fact.

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#21 mjarantilla

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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

I don't mean JUST demos. I mean demos, game trailers, movie trailers, music videos, themes, etc., etc. I'll even throw in XBL Video Marketplace in there, and the new XBL IPTV service due later this year.

yes things like game trailers are there, along with themes and such, but again thats really not very important when on a PC finding a movie trailer is always 2 clicks away. BTW, services like Video Marketplace and IPTV have been around for a long long time now on the PC.

Heh, you mean Unbox and iTunes? CinemaNow and Movielink? Please. Does Unbox even have HD available? Or 5.1 Dolby DIgital or DTS? I know iTunes doesn't. Hell, iTunes barely has 240p videos.

No, remember XP Media Center....and thats not the only TV service out there. +online movie downloads have been around for a while, I believe Netflix just opened up their own service.

Media Center is different from a video download store. Media Center is a DVR replacement, and even then Media Center isn't an "online feature" of PCs since it's not Internet-based. Video download stores are more convenient than DVRs.

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#22 cobrax25

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[QUOTE="BigDizz"]
People act like $50 a year is so much....
Most games nowadays cost more than that
BK-Sleeper

WoW for example, and even that is still fun.

WOW is an MMO, believe me, Console MMOs will cost extra.

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#23 cheezisgoooood

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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64. mjarantilla

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

I don't mean JUST demos. I mean demos, game trailers, movie trailers, music videos, themes, etc., etc. I'll even throw in XBL Video Marketplace in there, and the new XBL IPTV service due later this year.

yes things like game trailers are there, along with themes and such, but again thats really not very important when on a PC finding a movie trailer is always 2 clicks away. BTW, services like Video Marketplace and IPTV have been around for a long long time now on the PC.

Heh, you mean Unbox and iTunes? CinemaNow and Movielink? Please. Does Unbox even have HD available? Or 5.1 Dolby DIgital or DTS? I know iTunes doesn't. Hell, iTunes barely has 240p videos.

No, remember XP Media Center....and thats not the only TV service out there. +online movie downloads have been around for a while, I believe Netflix just opened up their own service.

Media Center is different from a video download store. Media Center is a DVR replacement, and even then Media Center isn't an "online feature" of PCs since it's not Internet-based. Video download stores are more convenient than DVRs.

What PC service are you guys talking about? "PC Live"? :?

PC doesn't have an online "service" it just has online "games" and online websites and separate services that offer a vast variety of different things, just not in one place like Xbox Live. PC has more features, but they aren't quite as unified as Xbox Live.

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#24 StephenHu

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

Steam is the next best thing for online purchases of many games + direct2drive or EA Link. Many freeware games by indie game designers are very common, or Gametap for retro games

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#25 PapaJohn24

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It's too bad many PC games have terrible matchmaking, if any systems. And a true lack of dedicated servers.

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#26 cobrax25

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

I don't mean JUST demos. I mean demos, game trailers, movie trailers, music videos, themes, etc., etc. I'll even throw in XBL Video Marketplace in there, and the new XBL IPTV service due later this year.

yes things like game trailers are there, along with themes and such, but again thats really not very important when on a PC finding a movie trailer is always 2 clicks away. BTW, services like Video Marketplace and IPTV have been around for a long long time now on the PC.

Heh, you mean Unbox and iTunes? CinemaNow and Movielink? Please. Does Unbox even have HD available? Or 5.1 Dolby DIgital or DTS? I know iTunes doesn't. Hell, iTunes barely has 240p videos.

No, remember XP Media Center....and thats not the only TV service out there. +online movie downloads have been around for a while, I believe Netflix just opened up their own service.

Media Center is different from a video download store. Media Center is a DVR replacement, and even then Media Center isn't an "online feature" of PCs.

So you mean, Media on Demand? cause that exists too, like you said CinemaNow and Movielink are both their, IGN also has their own movie service.... plus, your forgetting the fact that you can watch TV on a PC....and TV services have had media on demand for years...

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#27 cobrax25

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It's too bad many PC games have terrible matchmaking, if any systems. And a true lack of dedicated servers. PapaJohn24

are you joking? Consoles dont even use dedicaded servers.. Dedicaded servers are the reason COD2 for PC has 64 player online..... and Mods....

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#28 mjarantilla

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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]considering the small online games, calling it better then PC gaming (especially when X-fire does largely the same things for free) is a little too much. COD2 had like 8 players on the 360, on the PC it had 64.

Does X-Fire have XBL Marketplace or XBL Arcade? Because the strength of XBL is that it's branching out to provide other services, not pigeon-holing itself as ONLY a communications network.

as in can you download demos and such.... yes...you can through X-fire....though you might not want to since it uses P2P for distrobution, which can be fast, but is slower with older files that arent as popular. as for the arcade....no it doesnt...but that really doesnt matter considering the PCs huge amount of Arcade games.

I don't mean JUST demos. I mean demos, game trailers, movie trailers, music videos, themes, etc., etc. I'll even throw in XBL Video Marketplace in there, and the new XBL IPTV service due later this year.

yes things like game trailers are there, along with themes and such, but again thats really not very important when on a PC finding a movie trailer is always 2 clicks away. BTW, services like Video Marketplace and IPTV have been around for a long long time now on the PC.

Heh, you mean Unbox and iTunes? CinemaNow and Movielink? Please. Does Unbox even have HD available? Or 5.1 Dolby DIgital or DTS? I know iTunes doesn't. Hell, iTunes barely has 240p videos.

No, remember XP Media Center....and thats not the only TV service out there. +online movie downloads have been around for a while, I believe Netflix just opened up their own service.

Media Center is different from a video download store. Media Center is a DVR replacement, and even then Media Center isn't an "online feature" of PCs.

So you mean, Media on Demand? cause that exists too, like you said CinemaNow and Movielink are both their, IGN also has their own movie service....

And none of them are HD.

plus, your forgetting the fact that you can watch TV on a PC....and TV services have had media on demand for years...

I'm not forgetting that, but TV services don't allow you to redownload stuff you want on-demand, especially if they take it off the service. Hell, they don't even allow you to download it in the first place; it's all streamed. And you don't get the television back-catalog that XBL Video Marketplace has, either. I doubt you'll ever find Babylon 5 offered on-demand.

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