MS join xbox one + xbox 360 sales numbers.

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#151 Posted by Nanomage (2371 posts) -

Oh,so just like sony did before? Well that´s alright then.

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#152 Posted by edwardecl (2240 posts) -

Hiding your numbers is never alright no matter who does it.

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#153 Posted by cainetao11 (33535 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

@tormentos said:

Xbox Platform revenue increased $104 million or 14%, driven primarily by increased console revenue. We sold in 1.1 million consoles in the fourth quarter, as we drew down channel inventory, compared to 1.0 million consoles during the prior year.

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY14/Q4/default.aspx

MS joined xbox 360+ xbox one shipment for the 4th quarter,non separate report was issue,they pulled a Sony joining PS2 and PS3 sales.

This is epic since so many lemmings flamed sony for this and accuse sony of hiding sales under the PS2,now what lemmings.?

The xbox one still stranded like i suspected a few days ago,they barely shipped any units and still trying to sell the probably the 1 million units they had shipped but not sold in the retail channel,now is a good time to press the panic button.

Wtf? looks like both companys are copying each other, SONy had the console with annoying Architecture, now MS has the console with annoying architecture.

MS Had a console Thats really developer Friendly, now SONY Has the console thats developer friendly

MS has pay to play online, now SONY has pay to play online.

SONY consolidates Hardware sales Figures (naughty)

MS consolidates Hardware sales (even naughtier because it wasn't even there own F***ing idea)

It's like the Magic roundabout round here,lol

Pretty much. But you know how it works here dude.

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#154 Posted by clone01 (27118 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@Senor_Kami said:

Reminds me of last gen when there was a time where Sony only released "Playstation family" numbers that were PS2, PS3, and PSP combined into one.

And cows defended it, lems and sheep made fun of it. Now cows want their revenge. I feel like I am in High School.

Aw, come on man. That's insulting to high school kids :P

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#155 Edited by cainetao11 (33535 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@cainetao11 said:

@Senor_Kami said:

Reminds me of last gen when there was a time where Sony only released "Playstation family" numbers that were PS2, PS3, and PSP combined into one.

And cows defended it, lems and sheep made fun of it. Now cows want their revenge. I feel like I am in High School.

Aw, come on man. That's insulting to high school kids :P

LOL I know right? I laugh at some people who are all over lems (we know who) for this but were defending Sony years back for it. Like, it cant be flipped right back at them? It is bad now for lems, but that means it was bad for cows for defending it in the first place. This place is ridiculous.

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#156 Posted by bublover1 (133 posts) -

Excellent.

Just one step closer from the Xbox division shutting down and playing Halo on my PS4.

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#158 Edited by edwardecl (2240 posts) -

Makes me smile that no matter how much money Microsoft has they can still fail, if the sales continue like this then developers will start to lose interest and exclusives will be that much harder for Microsoft to get.

They have three options now,

1. Continue as it is and retain a ~30% market share world wide, lose exclusives and have weaker ports.

2. Money hat every developer possible and get maybe 10%-20% more sales but lose large amounts of money in the process.

3. Cut their losses and release a new console in the usual ~5 year cycle and discontinue the Xbox One like with the original Xbox.

Wonder which option they will go for...

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#159 Posted by tormentos (26719 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

Read what he is saying... He is talking about someone saying Xbox One sold 100k, and Xbox 360 1 million. That is indeed unbelievable, and not based on facts, because Microsoft hasn't given this info...

No... My OP is about MS joining numbers no where on that OP i say anything about 100k sold.

@SambaLele said:

Really? I though he/she (who was the mod anyway?) was correcting erronous info in your OP (I only saw this "after mod" edited version of your post).

What's the mod's interest in adding info to your OP then? Even if you had said any kind of nonsense, he/she shouldn't censor it (it wasn't a violation of ToS was it?), even if it's by adding info. There's plenty of bs on SW everywhere, and making a new post clarifying should suffice. This is bizarre to say the least.

No big deal i am sure the mod probably wanted people to know that the whole info about 100K wasn't correct,but i never stated anything about 100k it was just about MS joining numbers..

@delta3074 said:

Wtf? looks like both companys are copying each other, SONy had the console with annoying Architecture, now MS has the console with annoying architecture.

MS Had a console Thats really developer Friendly, now SONY Has the console thats developer friendly

MS has pay to play online, now SONY has pay to play online.

SONY consolidates Hardware sales Figures (naughty)

MS consolidates Hardware sales (even naughtier because it wasn't even there own F***ing idea)

It's like the Magic roundabout round here,lol

Hahahahaa... Yep that seem to be the case..lol

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#160 Posted by tormentos (26719 posts) -

Disappearing Act: Xbox Sales Plummet While Microsoft's Other Devices Continue To Struggle

Microsoft’s mixed results have largely pleased Wall Street. But the good news on cloud services and stabilization in the PC market can’t mask an ugly truth for the software giant: All of its hardware divisions are performing somewhere between terrible and absolutely dreadful. The worst among them, though, was the Xbox division where the rapid deterioration of Microsoft’s console business may lead to another round of calls to spin the division off.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/07/23/disappearing-act-xbox-sales-plummet-while-microsofts-other-devices-continue-to-struggle/?partner=yahootix

Oh oh.... It starting to spread...

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#161 Posted by Shewgenja (19535 posts) -

@tormentos said:

Disappearing Act: Xbox Sales Plummet While Microsoft's Other Devices Continue To Struggle

Microsoft’s mixed results have largely pleased Wall Street. But the good news on cloud services and stabilization in the PC market can’t mask an ugly truth for the software giant: All of its hardware divisions are performing somewhere between terrible and absolutely dreadful. The worst among them, though, was the Xbox division where the rapid deterioration of Microsoft’s console business may lead to another round of calls to spin the division off.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/07/23/disappearing-act-xbox-sales-plummet-while-microsofts-other-devices-continue-to-struggle/?partner=yahootix

Oh oh.... It starting to spread...

Flamma fumo est proxima..

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#162 Posted by superclocked (5864 posts) -

I'm just glad that the XB1 has led to big changes in management at Microsoft. Zune, Windows phones, Surface, and now XBox could've been much bigger. MS sat on stockpiles of Surface tablets while Google practically gave them away. And, $500 for a machine with 12 compute units was a terrible idea, especially with one team proposing a 64 compute unit design. Hell, I would've stopped PC gaming for a while with a machine of that caliber. It would've been powerful enough for proper 3D, too, which the Kinect is near useless without. But, nooo, Don "casual" Mattrick had to be able to talk to his XBox when he gets lonely...

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#163 Posted by SambaLele (5552 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@SambaLele said:

@cainetao11 said:

@kinectthedots said:

Post Translation: "I can not say anything bad about MS or criticize them for anything they do without bringing Sony into it and making them the scapegoat."

Sort of like you when you blame MS for Sony charging for online in that thread we argued in a few days ago. See we're all alike.

It's the company's fault, of course, but the blame is more on the consumers' part actually. Sony charges for online because consumers accepted what MS pulled.

All these companies would do what's necessary to get as much profit as possible. When MS tried and managed to charge for online, of course other companies would do the same. Those that won't or don't do it have other reasons to do so. Now it's a selling point, a differentiator (like for Ninty), not a given, a market standard anymore. On PC it's because it's (still) not possible to do so because of competition, it's an open platform in the online aspect, and that's why Blizzard and EA had it rough to implement their own restrictive online platforms, so charging for online on PC remains limited to specified products.

That would also apply to the initial anti-used games MS "vision". You could bet that the PS4 later on in this same gen would implement said "vision" if it proved to be viable. Yes, blame the company for their bad practices, but also blame those that pay for it, recognise that the market is more than just the part that sells us stuff.

Preaching to the choir guy. He said that load of crap to me the other day as if Sony was forced to do it. Nobody is forced to do anything. But you'll find stuff like that all over SW. Is it right that MS is lumping both platform sales together? Was it right when Sony did it? Is it wrong at all? Who among us hasn't sugar coated or worked an angle in this life? We are so judgmental and yet none of us are innocent.

On-topic: of course Sony wasn't forced to do anything. I didn't say that "load of crap" to defend Sony. Like I said, they are to blame as well. And by blaming consumers, I didn't mean it in the moral or ethical way, but in a practical one, taking them as a cause, in a cause and effect relation. First situation: Cause: you charge for a service that no one charged for before. Concurrent cause: people pay for it. Effect: other companies do the same. That's it.When mentioning MS it's just because I see no reason to arbitrarily take one cause out of the chain of events.

On the last things you asked... well, it surely wasn't "right" to do it. It wasn't something really harmful, but I'm sure we're to expect, actually, demand that companies act based on a higher standard. Anyway, the point of that post was that we usually just blame the companies, the market (sometimes the government or even forces out of our control), when all these depersonalized entities are actually a network of people that do what they do having people as both a basis and a target. But for some reason, in those discussions, the consumers' part is usually left behind for some reason. Well, if you already took that into account than I agree I'm preaching to the choir here.

Off-topic, on your last phrases: Now you're talking about morals and ethics. I'll dive into that a bit if you'll allow me. I don't know how far you meant to go with that "none of us are innocent" maxim. But I see you take that as a justification. I don't think what's done here is THAT wrong, especially because it's not like they are hiding that their product is dangerous to our health or something. But it is wrong (yes, it is, that's failing at transparency to investors in the slighest).It's not any socially acceptable minor lie, yet it's not that grave. And even though it's not all that harmful, I don't think we should just take that as normal procedure, stop judging, and let that be part of what we call in my country "black cipher" (tolerance towards misconducts). I'll partly agree with you here. Anyway, if you're talking about minor "sugarcoatings", than yes, that is common, but it still doesn't validate or change the concepts of right and wrong, nor nullify the need to discern both, even in their many shades of grey. I can't see how one act can compensate the other (MS vs. Sony that is). To finish, companies don't suffer the same kinds of social and moral repproval/pressures from equals that we do. That's why we need competition, regulation agencies and consumers that are very aware of the business practices at play. To sum it up, it is wrong anyway you see it, even if it's not a huge issue, even if it's done before by others.

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#164 Posted by cainetao11 (33535 posts) -

@SambaLele:

First off, it was an absolute pleasure to read your responses. You have a way of putting into writing what is in my head. I wish I could write as concise as you do. I agree whole heartedly. It is wrong, no doubt. I guess I, as an investor have become kind of used to these kinds of things. And that may be a bad thing. Thanks so much for the response my friend.

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#165 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

So this actually ended up being legit?

oh boy.

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#166 Edited by kingtito (9174 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@CanYouDiglt said:

I have no idea what the heck that had to do with what I said but I have no idea what will happen by the end of the gen sales wise and since it has been less then a year no ones does.

As far as combining numbers why do you suddenly have a problem with it when you have been defending Sony doing it for all this time.

Ahh, I think you misplaced me with the Cows. I'm not defending Sonyor even talking about combining the numbers. Just what the numbers are. All I care about.

Hahahaha you are a cow and not just the normal typical cow, you're a super cow. One of the biggest cows on SWs. Hahaha I guess you're going to claim you're not a cow now huh loser?

All you do is defend Sony. That's what ALL cows do.

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#167 Posted by SambaLele (5552 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@SambaLele:

First off, it was an absolute pleasure to read your responses. You have a way of putting into writing what is in my head. I wish I could write as concise as you do. I agree whole heartedly. It is wrong, no doubt. I guess I, as an investor have become kind of used to these kinds of things. And that may be a bad thing. Thanks so much for the response my friend.

Wow, I'm sincerely flattered. It was an absolute pleasure to be able to have this discussion with you. I actually put a lot of thought in my responses. It was a rare opportunity for a good conversation. And a sad truth is that opportunities never repeat themselves. Because of that I thank you friend for being so educated.

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#168 Posted by jsmoke03 (13696 posts) -

ok...so both cows and lemmings are hypocrites....nothing new there

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#169 Edited by Shewgenja (19535 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@Shewgenja said:

@CanYouDiglt said:

I have no idea what the heck that had to do with what I said but I have no idea what will happen by the end of the gen sales wise and since it has been less then a year no ones does.

As far as combining numbers why do you suddenly have a problem with it when you have been defending Sony doing it for all this time.

Ahh, I think you misplaced me with the Cows. I'm not defending Sonyor even talking about combining the numbers. Just what the numbers are. All I care about.

Hahahaha you are a cow and not just the normal typical cow, you're a super cow. One of the biggest cows on SWs. Hahaha I guess you're going to claim you're not a cow now huh loser?

All you do is defend Sony. That's what ALL cows do.

Truth be told, it's hard to defend something that is on the complete offensive and conquered the higher ground. PS4 doesn't need a "Defense Force". I don't need to invest in a fantasy to see the writing on the wall. As a happy owner of a gaming PC, WiiU, and yes a PS4 I am feeling pretty good about the current generation. Everything's cool and shit. Call me a Cow if you want. Beats the everliving **** out of being bent over a couch for a console that doesn't know what it is or a company that needs to abandon their entire original purpose with it under a "cloud" of marketing and PR.

THAT, is where I wouldn't want to be. So reading this forum with a fangirl like you pointing fingers only makes this sweeter. Keep calling me out. Make me the "super cow". Make me the End Boss Cow of Cowism. I've been gaming before Playstation and will likely be gaming after Playstation. Your bloody crusty butthurt comes from the fact I kick it real when it comes to the XBone and even the 360. You got abandoned in 2009 by a company that would rather stretch its bottom dollar letting a developer like Bungie out of its grasp than serve you. You'd rather defend a company that takes a developer name like Rare and turn it into a motion-control laughing stock than give you, a gamer, what you want. You'd even come in here with your chickenshit fanboy ass-licking fuckery calling someone like me out on a forum than question MS closing Ensemble Studios.

That's who you are. Live with that. I can take any name and any accusation you throw at me and laugh. We all know what the score is. Truth hurts, don't it?

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#171 Edited by Innovazero2000 (3159 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@Innovazero2000 said:

Are you really surprised by this, is anyone and if so...it's ironic as hell.

1. Companies will do anything to save face with investors, perception is reality. As you mentioned Sony before; there are many companies that have implemented such a tactic.

2. Fanboys are Fanboys regardless where they come from, they are the same with a different stamps on their butts.

It is not time to hit the panic button. Where they are after this upcoming holiday season is cause depending on the situation with sales. It's not like the sales are bad, they aren't but Sony is simply doing better. Microsoft royally screwed up the first 6 months of this thing (and even before hand) much like Sony botched the beginning of the Ps3.

This equating MS to Sony ends now.

1. While Xbox 360 was in the pilots seat last gen, they sold off and closed development studios as well as dedicated resources to Kinect-only. As a gamer, this should be important.

2. Sony has let go of Insomniacs iron-clad support. However, they gained Bungie this gen. Not exactly a fair trade.

3. Sony is a household name globally, Xbox made a lot of ground in Europe, but sold quite a bit over half of their 360s in the US. Exactly where and how is XBone going to stage a comeback?

4. Most importantly of any argument. Sony lost DMC/Final Fantasy/etc to multiplat last generation, but there are literally no third party megatons coming from Microsoft. At all. Zilch.

Yes. Consoles do come back from behind. The SNES did it against the Sega Genesis and the PS3 did it against the 360. However, the argument is being made in a vacuum irrespective of the realities that propelled those two systems. The XBone, as it stands currently, has NO such ammunition. E3 2015, the XBone will have to go absolutely ape-shit to convince me otherwise.

Thats all well and good and I'm fully aware of, no where in my post did I state anything about a comeback. All I said in a nutshell was "Sales good, but Sony better not time to panic, MS like Sony before it screwed up launch"

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#172 Edited by _Matt_ (10447 posts) -

@ProjectPat187 said:
@_Matt_ said:

Sheeeeeesh, 100,000 units in 3 months is shite :/ , I guess MS completely saturated retailers with XBO consoles before this.

Says the guy who doesnt know the difference between a heatsink and cpu.

What? I think you are confusing me with someone else sir; I remember you arguing with someone else about it a few months back, but was not me.

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#173 Edited by tormentos (26719 posts) -

@kingtito said:

Hahahaha you are a cow and not just the normal typical cow, you're a super cow. One of the biggest cows on SWs. Hahaha I guess you're going to claim you're not a cow now huh loser?

All you do is defend Sony. That's what ALL cows do.

Say so the super lemming..

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#174 Posted by deactivated-583e460ca986b (7240 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@GoldenElementXL said:

I laughed when I saw the mod edit in Tormentos post. We should have a mod assigned to him at all times. It would save many of us the headache.

Really then maybe you can explain to me what the mod edited,my thread didn't imply in any place that the xbox one sold 100k,it imply that MS joined 360+ xbox one numbers which they did you sad closet lemming..

1 - I thought it was funny to see a "Mod Edit" in your post. If I could think of 1 poster that would have a "Mod Edit" in their thread it would be you. And I can't prove what you said in your original post since both the thread title and post have been edited before the thread went to page 2.

2 - Again with the "closet lemming" stuff. Look at my posting history. Hell look at the Destiny threads where I talk about my experience with both the PS4 and Xbox One beta's and why I'm going with the PS4 version. Sound like a Lemming to you? Just because I don't make sweet, passionate love to Sony products doesn't mean in a Lem.

At least this isn't another "You can't make a $400 PC that's better than the PS4" thread or post from you. Those were getting a little old.

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#175 Posted by tormentos (26719 posts) -

@GoldenElementXL said:

1 - I thought it was funny to see a "Mod Edit" in your post. If I could think of 1 poster that would have a "Mod Edit" in their thread it would be you. And I can't prove what you said in your original post since both the thread title and post have been edited before the thread went to page 2.

2 - Again with the "closet lemming" stuff. Look at my posting history. Hell look at the Destiny threads where I talk about my experience with both the PS4 and Xbox One beta's and why I'm going with the PS4 version. Sound like a Lemming to you? Just because I don't make sweet, passionate love to Sony products doesn't mean in a Lem.

At least this isn't another "You can't make a $400 PC that's better than the PS4" thread or post from you. Those were getting a little old.

NO i edit the thread title because some one complain that since i call it "" Karma Sweet sweet Karma"" and din't actually hint about what was the topic about,other people would create the same tread,the original thread wasn't modify,in fact the mod changed nothing he just added the lines he make to clarify something that wasn't there in the first place..hahaha

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#176 Posted by cainetao11 (33535 posts) -

@SambaLele said:

@cainetao11 said:

@SambaLele:

First off, it was an absolute pleasure to read your responses. You have a way of putting into writing what is in my head. I wish I could write as concise as you do. I agree whole heartedly. It is wrong, no doubt. I guess I, as an investor have become kind of used to these kinds of things. And that may be a bad thing. Thanks so much for the response my friend.

Wow, I'm sincerely flattered. It was an absolute pleasure to be able to have this discussion with you. I actually put a lot of thought in my responses. It was a rare opportunity for a good conversation. And a sad truth is that opportunities never repeat themselves. Because of that I thank you friend for being so educated.

Right on dawgmoneygripson! (carrying on with the educated part you see)

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#177 Edited by SambaLele (5552 posts) -

@GoldenElementXL said:

@tormentos said:

@GoldenElementXL said:

I laughed when I saw the mod edit in Tormentos post. We should have a mod assigned to him at all times. It would save many of us the headache.

Really then maybe you can explain to me what the mod edited,my thread didn't imply in any place that the xbox one sold 100k,it imply that MS joined 360+ xbox one numbers which they did you sad closet lemming..

1 - I thought it was funny to see a "Mod Edit" in your post. If I could think of 1 poster that would have a "Mod Edit" in their thread it would be you. And I can't prove what you said in your original post since both the thread title and post have been edited before the thread went to page 2.

2 - Again with the "closet lemming" stuff. Look at my posting history. Hell look at the Destiny threads where I talk about my experience with both the PS4 and Xbox One beta's and why I'm going with the PS4 version. Sound like a Lemming to you? Just because I don't make sweet, passionate love to Sony products doesn't mean in a Lem.

At least this isn't another "You can't make a $400 PC that's better than the PS4" thread or post from you. Those were getting a little old.

Just intervening on item number 1.

Don't you think that was weird? I thought that was weird as hell. There's nothing in the ToS or forum guidelines allowing such "mod edit". There are correct ways to mod someone (lock thread, advert, suspend or ban and delete the post if it's too offensive) and only when needed, which surely wasn't the case. There are several cases of people straight out lying in SW and you don't see the content of their messages being edited like that.

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#178 Posted by kingtito (9174 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@kingtito said:

@Shewgenja said:

@CanYouDiglt said:

I have no idea what the heck that had to do with what I said but I have no idea what will happen by the end of the gen sales wise and since it has been less then a year no ones does.

As far as combining numbers why do you suddenly have a problem with it when you have been defending Sony doing it for all this time.

Ahh, I think you misplaced me with the Cows. I'm not defending Sonyor even talking about combining the numbers. Just what the numbers are. All I care about.

Hahahaha you are a cow and not just the normal typical cow, you're a super cow. One of the biggest cows on SWs. Hahaha I guess you're going to claim you're not a cow now huh loser?

All you do is defend Sony. That's what ALL cows do.

Truth be told, it's hard to defend something that is on the complete offensive and conquered the higher ground. PS4 doesn't need a "Defense Force". I don't need to invest in a fantasy to see the writing on the wall. As a happy owner of a gaming PC, WiiU, and yes a PS4 I am feeling pretty good about the current generation. Everything's cool and shit. Call me a Cow if you want. Beats the everliving **** out of being bent over a couch for a console that doesn't know what it is or a company that needs to abandon their entire original purpose with it under a "cloud" of marketing and PR.

THAT, is where I wouldn't want to be. So reading this forum with a fangirl like you pointing fingers only makes this sweeter. Keep calling me out. Make me the "super cow". Make me the End Boss Cow of Cowism. I've been gaming before Playstation and will likely be gaming after Playstation. Your bloody crusty butthurt comes from the fact I kick it real when it comes to the XBone and even the 360.You got abandoned in 2009 by a company that would rather stretch its bottom dollar letting a developer like Bungie out of its grasp than serve you.You'd rather defend a company that takes a developer name like Rare and turn it into a motion-control laughing stock than give you, a gamer, what you want. You'd even come in here with your chickenshit fanboy ass-licking fuckery calling someone like me out on a forum than question MS closing Ensemble Studios.

That's who you are. Live with that. I can take any name and any accusation you throw at me and laugh. We all know what the score is. Truth hurts, don't it?

And yet you're quick to defend it at all times. Yeah kid, you almost had me convinced.

I do and you are......cow.

Nah, you don't "kick it real" when it comes to the XOne or the 360. You talk just like every other blind fanatic cow in SWs. You're no different than El Tormented but if it helps you sleep at night keep thinking you "kick it real".

I didn't get abandoned by anyone. I gamed on PC (95% of the time), PS3 (2nd most), 360 and lastly the Wii. I don't recall my PC "abandoning" me at any point. Perhaps you should rethink that statement and maybe "kick it real" next time.

No different that YOU defending a company that told you to get 2 jobs to buy the PS3, told you next gen doesn't start till they say, took rumble away then gave it back and charged you for it, gave you all kinds of features with the PS3 THEN took them all away as time passed, installed root kits on PCs, refused to pay for faulty hardware UNTIL they got sued....yeah kid you "kick it real" alright.

You sound mad.....you mad kid? I just "kick it real", no need to get so upset.

Except being called a cow.....then you "kick it real" huh cow

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#179 Posted by tormentos (26719 posts) -

@kingtito said:

And yet you're quick to defend it at all times. Yeah kid, you almost had me convinced.

I do and you are......cow.

Nah, you don't "kick it real" when it comes to the XOne or the 360. You talk just like every other blind fanatic cow in SWs. You're no different than El Tormented but if it helps you sleep at night keep thinking you "kick it real".

I didn't get abandoned by anyone. I gamed on PC (95% of the time), PS3 (2nd most), 360 and lastly the Wii. I don't recall my PC "abandoning" me at any point. Perhaps you should rethink that statement and maybe "kick it real" next time.

No different that YOU defending a company that told you to get 2 jobs to buy the PS3, told you next gen doesn't start till they say, took rumble away then gave it back and charged you for it, gave you all kinds of features with the PS3 THEN took them all away as time passed, installed root kits on PCs, refused to pay for faulty hardware UNTIL they got sued....yeah kid you "kick it real" alright.

You sound mad.....you mad kid? I just "kick it real", no need to get so upset.

Except being called a cow.....then you "kick it real" huh cow

You are a blind biased lemming period so yeah super lemming,..

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#180 Posted by kingtito (9174 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@kingtito said:

And yet you're quick to defend it at all times. Yeah kid, you almost had me convinced.

I do and you are......cow.

Nah, you don't "kick it real" when it comes to the XOne or the 360. You talk just like every other blind fanatic cow in SWs. You're no different than El Tormented but if it helps you sleep at night keep thinking you "kick it real".

I didn't get abandoned by anyone. I gamed on PC (95% of the time), PS3 (2nd most), 360 and lastly the Wii. I don't recall my PC "abandoning" me at any point. Perhaps you should rethink that statement and maybe "kick it real" next time.

No different that YOU defending a company that told you to get 2 jobs to buy the PS3, told you next gen doesn't start till they say, took rumble away then gave it back and charged you for it, gave you all kinds of features with the PS3 THEN took them all away as time passed, installed root kits on PCs, refused to pay for faulty hardware UNTIL they got sued....yeah kid you "kick it real" alright.

You sound mad.....you mad kid? I just "kick it real", no need to get so upset.

Except being called a cow.....then you "kick it real" huh cow

You are a blind biased lemming period so yeah super lemming,..

Whatever you say El Tormented. Better to be a "super lemming" than a def, dumb and blind cow.

You still trying convince people SCE isn't Sony?

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#181 Posted by tormentos (26719 posts) -

@kingtito said:

Whatever you say El Tormented. Better to be a "super lemming" than a def, dumb and blind cow.

You still trying convince people SCE isn't Sony?

Well i am a cow but def,dumb and blind no,that is more for lemming who can see any difference between 720p and 1080p..lol

Where have i claim SCE isn't sony.? Please quote me..lol

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#182 Posted by Shewgenja (19535 posts) -

@kingtito said:

And yet you're quick to defend it at all times. Yeah kid, you almost had me convinced.

I do and you are......cow.

Nah, you don't "kick it real" when it comes to the XOne or the 360. You talk just like every other blind fanatic cow in SWs. You're no different than El Tormented but if it helps you sleep at night keep thinking you "kick it real".

I didn't get abandoned by anyone. I gamed on PC (95% of the time), PS3 (2nd most), 360 and lastly the Wii. I don't recall my PC "abandoning" me at any point. Perhaps you should rethink that statement and maybe "kick it real" next time.

No different that YOU defending a company that told you to get 2 jobs to buy the PS3, told you next gen doesn't start till they say, took rumble away then gave it back and charged you for it, gave you all kinds of features with the PS3 THEN took them all away as time passed, installed root kits on PCs, refused to pay for faulty hardware UNTIL they got sued....yeah kid you "kick it real" alright.

You sound mad.....you mad kid? I just "kick it real", no need to get so upset.

Except being called a cow.....then you "kick it real" huh cow

I'm perfectly okay if you want to call me Cow. Maybe one day Sony will try to sell me a cable box that you talk to with shit graphics. When that day comes, then I will show you and the rest of this forum how Cow I really am. In the meantime, please fasten your seatbelt and make sure your chair is in the upright position. Generation 8 is going to give you a bumpy ride, sir.

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#183 Posted by kingtito (9174 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@kingtito said:

And yet you're quick to defend it at all times. Yeah kid, you almost had me convinced.

I do and you are......cow.

Nah, you don't "kick it real" when it comes to the XOne or the 360. You talk just like every other blind fanatic cow in SWs. You're no different than El Tormented but if it helps you sleep at night keep thinking you "kick it real".

I didn't get abandoned by anyone. I gamed on PC (95% of the time), PS3 (2nd most), 360 and lastly the Wii. I don't recall my PC "abandoning" me at any point. Perhaps you should rethink that statement and maybe "kick it real" next time.

No different that YOU defending a company that told you to get 2 jobs to buy the PS3, told you next gen doesn't start till they say, took rumble away then gave it back and charged you for it, gave you all kinds of features with the PS3 THEN took them all away as time passed, installed root kits on PCs, refused to pay for faulty hardware UNTIL they got sued....yeah kid you "kick it real" alright.

You sound mad.....you mad kid? I just "kick it real", no need to get so upset.

Except being called a cow.....then you "kick it real" huh cow

I'm perfectly okay if you want to call me Cow. Maybe one day Sony will try to sell me a cable box that you talk to with shit graphics. When that day comes, then I will show you and the rest of this forum how Cow I really am. In the meantime, please fasten your seatbelt and make sure your chair is in the upright position. Generation 8 is going to give you a bumpy ride, sir.

Cow speak....last time I checked the graphics are pretty close to each other. Only a cow would make such a comment. Cow on kid.

Hmmm I highly doubt it since A) I sold my XOne and B) I'll own a PS4 when it has games I actually want to play. No a remake of a game I played last year doesn't count.

No kid, I don't limit myself unlike most of the cows on this board. Keep fighting the good fight cow.

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#184 Posted by Shewgenja (19535 posts) -

@kingtito said:

Cow speak....last time I checked the graphics are pretty close to each other. Only a cow would make such a comment. Cow on kid.

Hmmm I highly doubt it since A) I sold my XOne and B) I'll own a PS4 when it has games I actually want to play. No a remake of a game I played last year doesn't count.

No kid, I don't limit myself unlike most of the cows on this board. Keep fighting the good fight cow.

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#185 Edited by B4X (5660 posts) -

@Shewgenja: Man Gen 7 NPD sales seem very painful to you. Everything will be Ok. I promise.

Just breath. Get it all out of your system.

Your day has finally come. :p

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#187 Edited by blackace (23576 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

SONY once again leading the industry while MS decays with misleading information and misdirection.

They learn this misleading info and misdirection from Sony though. lol!! With your analogy Microsoft learn bad practices from the BEST. lmao!! Sony still won't give their PS3 numbers. At least Microsoft gave their Xbox 360 worldwide numbers of 84+ Million at the E3. All we got from Sony was cricket noises.

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@charizard1605 said:

Just so we are clear, Microsoft shipped 100k units of Xbox One all quarter. That's Wii U levels of disastrously bad.

EDIT: I lied, even Wii U has never had a quarter this bad. In its worst quarter ever, Wii U shipped ~200,000 units worldwide, double what Microsoft just managed.

Not sure where you're pulling those numbers from. With the NPD numbers, they sold over 400K XB1s in the U.S. alone for the Apr/May/Jun quarter. They sold 197K in June, so where you getting 100K shipped for a quarter? Please provide a link to where you're getting this info.

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#188 Edited by sibu_xgamer (340 posts) -

MS finally going down under where it deserves to be.

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#189 Edited by blackace (23576 posts) -
@sibu_xgamer said:

MS finally going down under where it deserves to be.

Microsoft Corp. today announced revenue of $23.38 billion for the quarter ended June 30, 2014. Gross margin, operating income, and diluted earnings per share (“EPS”) for the quarter were $15.79 billion, $6.48 billion, and $0.55 per share, respectively.

Yes, they are really hurting. lol!! I would love to go down under earning $23.38 billion in revenue. You trolls are hilarious. Your comments need to go down the toilet with you.

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#190 Posted by bublover1 (133 posts) -

@blackace said:

@Heil68 said:

SONY once again leading the industry while MS decays with misleading information and misdirection.

They learn this misleading info and misdirection from Sony though. lol!! With your analogy Microsoft learn bad practices from the BEST. lmao!! Sony still won't give their PS3 numbers. At least Microsoft gave their Xbox 360 worldwide numbers of 84+ Million at the E3. All we got from Sony was cricket noises.

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@charizard1605 said:

Just so we are clear, Microsoft shipped 100k units of Xbox One all quarter. That's Wii U levels of disastrously bad.

EDIT: I lied, even Wii U has never had a quarter this bad. In its worst quarter ever, Wii U shipped ~200,000 units worldwide, double what Microsoft just managed.

Not sure where you're pulling those numbers from. With the NPD numbers, they sold over 400K XB1s in the U.S. alone for the Apr/May/Jun quarter. They sold 197K in June, so where you getting 100K shipped for a quarter? Please provide a link to where you're getting this info.

Shipped doesn't mean sold. Microsoft overstocked their channels with Xbones and retailers severely overestimated the demand for the Xbone. There are tons of Xbones on store shelves unsold for months. GAF estimates unsold stock to be 1-1.5 million. Most of that 197k sold in June might have been shipped to retail channels last fucking year for all we know.

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#191 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@bublover1 said:

@blackace said:

@Heil68 said:

SONY once again leading the industry while MS decays with misleading information and misdirection.

They learn this misleading info and misdirection from Sony though. lol!! With your analogy Microsoft learn bad practices from the BEST. lmao!! Sony still won't give their PS3 numbers. At least Microsoft gave their Xbox 360 worldwide numbers of 84+ Million at the E3. All we got from Sony was cricket noises.

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@charizard1605 said:

Just so we are clear, Microsoft shipped 100k units of Xbox One all quarter. That's Wii U levels of disastrously bad.

EDIT: I lied, even Wii U has never had a quarter this bad. In its worst quarter ever, Wii U shipped ~200,000 units worldwide, double what Microsoft just managed.

Not sure where you're pulling those numbers from. With the NPD numbers, they sold over 400K XB1s in the U.S. alone for the Apr/May/Jun quarter. They sold 197K in June, so where you getting 100K shipped for a quarter? Please provide a link to where you're getting this info.

Shipped doesn't mean sold. Microsoft overstocked their channels with Xbones and retailers severely overestimated the demand for the Xbone. There are tons of Xbones on store shelves unsold for months. GAF estimates unsold stock to be 1-1.5 million. Most of that 197k sold in June might have been shipped to retail channels last fucking year for all we know.

You must not be able to read or you're just completely clueless. Maybe it's a bit of both. It's a fact they sold over 400K in past 3 months as the NPD reported the numbers. So there's no way only 100K would have been shipped for that quarter. I was at Walmart yesterday and couldn't even find an XB1 in any cases. They had abotu 6 PS4's.

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#192 Posted by I_can_haz (6511 posts) -

LOL LastPlaceBone. So this means WiiU is still ahead of the Xflop with millions of Xflops rotting on store shelves lolol. This is sweet ownage, TLHBO.

LOL blackace is having another meltdown. Good job Tormentos, this thread delivers.

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#193 Posted by Dire_Weasel (16681 posts) -

I generally don't like Tormentos's topics, but I have to hand it to him, he really got the usual suspects riled up.

Almost all the regulars have checked in for their meltdowns, I guess Xbox One sales really are super-important to them.

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#194 Posted by ProjectPat187 (2101 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@ProjectPat187 said:
@_Matt_ said:

Sheeeeeesh, 100,000 units in 3 months is shite :/ , I guess MS completely saturated retailers with XBO consoles before this.

Says the guy who doesnt know the difference between a heatsink and cpu.

What? I think you are confusing me with someone else sir; I remember you arguing with someone else about it a few months back, but was not me.

No I dont have you confused with anyone, play dumb if you want, previously I was talking about the heatsink in your PC somebody pointed out, but for some reason you wanted to butt in going totally off the subject and start talking about your CPU and Mobo as if you are the only that has a decent PC, it just seemed like you wanted to find a reason to talk about your PC specs instead of the heatsink which the subject was about, but its ok I knew you were just doing a horrible troll job.

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#195 Posted by jg4xchamp (61470 posts) -

It's an earning report.

Why the **** would they not combine the sales of their devices for an earning report?

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#196 Posted by Riverwolf007 (26023 posts) -

lol, xbox family.

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#197 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -
@I_can_haz said:

LOL LastPlaceBone. So this means WiiU is still ahead of the Xflop with millions of Xflops rotting on store shelves lolol. This is sweet ownage, TLHBO.

LOL blackace is having another meltdown. Good job Tormentos, this thread delivers.

If laughing at you bunch of idiots is having a meltdown, then so be it. You clowns are hilarious. It's even funnier knowing that Sony was doing these same combined numbers with the PS3, PS2, PSP and PSVita just to show some decent sales. The Wii was outselling all of them combined by itself. LMAO!! Unlike you biased trolls who were praising Sony for doing this crap, I'm fully against Microsoft doing this. They should be showing the sales seperately. They need to take the good with the bad. Xbox 360 is still selling very well even though it's not receiving many exclusive titles on it. It might make it to 2016 after all.

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#198 Edited by SambaLele (5552 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

It's an earning report.

Why the **** would they not combine the sales of their devices for an earning report?

So that investors know how the new product is doing and decide if they'd better allocate their investment elsewhere? Transparency, I guess. I mean, of course there'd be other reasons for that as well.

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#199 Posted by Heil68 (57942 posts) -

@blackace:

Well least you can admit that SONY and the PS4 is leading gen 8 thus far and they are on a serious roll.

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#200 Edited by slimdogmilionar (986 posts) -

WTF is the point of this article M$ never claimed the 1.1 to be xbox one sales alone. I'm confused because I thought the earnings report was for the xbox division as a whole which equals xbox 360 and xbox1. I'll start to worry when M$ starts to loose money but that's obviously not happening with the close to 5 billion dollar profit they just posted. Here's a better angle for you guys, you can say M$ padded the losses from xbox 1 with money made from xbox 360 since it cost so little to manufacture now, but then again that's money coming from the xbox division going back to the xbox division.

Honestly this thread just seem like a way to detract from the point that despite how good ps4 is selling Sony will never be as financially stable as M$, or at least not for a while. The new Ceo is behind xbox and yea M$ could decide to ditch xbox1 and make a more powerful console in like 2018 what's the worse that can happen? If people bought the xbox one you think they wouldn't buy a more powerful console, do you think M$ would put out a weaker console spec wise after this. Honestly ask yourself if Sony gave us a system like PS4 after making no money from it last gen why would a lem be worried about the status of Xbox division. M$ is money hungry and the gaming market is to profitable for a company like them to just abandon, evidenced by the fact that investors wanted Xbox gone last gen but yet we have the Xb1. Sony is the only company bleeding money which is why cows want to talk about M$ finances, I mean M$ just made 23 bil in revenue while Sony admitted already that they will loose at least a billion by the end of this fiscal year despite PS4 success.

Bottom line is Xbox one is still selling faster than 360 just not as good as PS4, but then again PS3 didn't sell as good as 360 last gen until the end and look how that turned out.