MS has a cultural habit of treating developers like s**t

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#1 PSP107
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Delete if old.

"They threatened to ruin my life, and I am not the only indie they treated this way. So I do not give them the benefit of the doubtThey have a cultural habit of treating small developers like shit. Hopefully they will manage to get away from this on the new"

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/411589881962323968

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#2 ihsanqueen
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Everybody already knows this, thats one of the reason why I think lems are the dumbest fanboy I ever known, MS already treated developers and gamers like shit and yet they still praising Microsoft like a second coming of Jesus

At least Nintendo and Sony still considering their consumers and developers

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#3  Edited By deactivated-5c03000d4b1b4
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Already knew it, and don't really care

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#4 Suppaman100
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MS being aholes? Nothing new.

Brb treat fans like crap

Brb pushing crap that nobody wants

Brb doing 180 because they're afraid no one's gonna buy their sh*t

Only the mentally challenged support MS's policies. (aka lemmings)

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#5 LJS9502_basic
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Not a secret....

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#6 k2theswiss
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so how are they treating them like shit? NO ONE. is forcing them make games for ms. so if they dont come to agreement on terms end of story, but if the dev agrees to ms terms then only their self can be blamed for agreeing

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#7  Edited By deactivated-5c03000d4b1b4
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Microsoft have a long history of bullying smaller companys

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#8  Edited By Suppaman100
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@k2theswiss said:

so how are they treating them like shit? NO ONE. is forcing them make games for ms. so if they dont come to agreement on terms end of story, but if the dev agrees to ms terms then only their self can be blamed for agreeing

Weak apologist response.

As expected from a lemming.

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#9 FoxbatAlpha
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BooooFuckingHoooo. Little indie acting like a little bitch because they didn't want to conform to MS's superior business model. Get over it.

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#10  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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They treat developers and the fanbase like shit and yet still there's a hardcore of battered housewives like foxbatalpha who continue making excuses or downplaying just how malignant the Xbox brand is.

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#11  Edited By Suppaman100
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

BooooFuckingHoooo. Little indie acting like a little bitch because they didn't want to conform to MS's superior business model. Get over it.

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#12 Lulu_Lulu
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Gamers know, Gamers couldn't care less what child labour camp these products come from. "But I Want It" !

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#13 LJS9502_basic
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

BooooFuckingHoooo. Little indie acting like a little bitch because they didn't want to conform to MS's superior business model. Get over it.

Don't worry....they don't treat their consumers respectfully either.

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#14 handssss
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

BooooFuckingHoooo. Little indie acting like a little bitch because they didn't want to conform to MS's superior business model. Get over it.

Don't worry....they don't treat their consumers respectfully either.

when their customers act like the above example, can you really blame MS for not respecting them? Why bother? they will always come crawling back just like a delusional and abused housewife.

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#15  Edited By jhcho2
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@k2theswiss said:

so how are they treating them like shit? NO ONE. is forcing them make games for ms. so if they dont come to agreement on terms end of story, but if the dev agrees to ms terms then only their self can be blamed for agreeing

Just like how MS isn't treating their customers like shit when they implemented DRM right? You can always opt to not buy an Xbox One. Except, people like you will still buy an Xbox One. You're in the same boat as those indies.

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#17 jer_1
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@farrell2k said:

Microsoft is the Walmart of the software industry. It has always treated its partners like garbage.

Microsoft...the McDonald's of gaming.

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#18 PSP107
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@handssss said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

BooooFuckingHoooo. Little indie acting like a little bitch because they didn't want to conform to MS's superior business model. Get over it.

Don't worry....they don't treat their consumers respectfully either.

when their customers act like the above example, can you really blame MS for not respecting them? Why bother? they will always come crawling back just like a delusional and abused housewife.

lol

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#19 k2theswiss
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@Suppaman100: my so calledweak excuse is business. buy stuff cheap and make business policies that dont make you come out on the bottom.

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#20 KKFF
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What goes around comes around. Now Microsoft gets treated like shit, and their X1 will fail big time

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#21  Edited By k2theswiss
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@jhcho2: would of preferreded if the drm was still there. I still be able get competitive prices and would only have to insert the disc once. I could care less only about trading games only to gamestop because thats where 95 percent of my stuff goes anyways. people OVERHYPE EBAY with their 10% fee, only idiots dont take use of gamestop deals

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#22  Edited By waltefmoney
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This guy is such a pussy ass motherfucker. All he does is cry and complain. You made a game with a partner that you disagreed with. Move on already for ****'s sake.

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#23 edidili
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@jhcho2 said:

Just like how MS isn't treating their customers like shit when they implemented DRM right? You can always opt to not buy an Xbox One.

Well, is not mandatory as far as I know to buy an xbox is it? They can do whatever they want, charge $1000 and sell a game for $200. Don't buy it.

As for OP, what's the story?

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#24  Edited By Ninja-Hippo
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@edidili said:

@jhcho2 said:

Just like how MS isn't treating their customers like shit when they implemented DRM right? You can always opt to not buy an Xbox One.

Well, is not mandatory as far as I know to buy an xbox is it? They can do whatever they want, charge $1000 and sell a game for $200. Don't buy it.

As for OP, what's the story?

Jonathan Blow, notorious butthurt developer of Braid who struggles to keep his mouth shut for five minutes, was called out by a random twitter person for accusing Microsoft of lying about how many servers they had for their new updated Xbox Live. They posted pictures to prove it, and a random twitter person told him to apologize.

He refused and said he was taken out of context, they argue like petty children, one accuses him of always being critical of Microsoft, he responds saying he got treated like shit by them.

Personally it's just another case of whiney indie developer number 8,618 if you ask me. But I have no doubt at all that Microsoft aren't exactly a mom 'n pop store.

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#25  Edited By nyzma23
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microsoft big by crushing smaller company it's one of briliiant bill gates strategy ,remember netscape ?

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#26 edidili
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@Ninja-Hippo said:

Jonathan Blow, notorious butthurt developer of Braid who struggles to keep his mouth shut for five minutes, was called out by a random twitter person for accusing Microsoft of lying about how many servers they had for their new updated Xbox Live. They posted pictures to prove it, and a random twitter person told him to apologize.

He refused and said he was taken out of context, they argue like petty children, one accuses him of always being critical of Microsoft, he responds saying he got treated like shit by them.

Personally it's just another case of whiney indie developer number 8,618 if you ask me. But I have no doubt at all that Microsoft aren't exactly a mom 'n pop store.

Oh so is just another twitter drama. These people sure love being the next Phil Fish.

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#27  Edited By edidili
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@nyzma23 said:

remember netscape ?

I do. It was back then when you had to pay for an internet browser and then ie comes out for free.

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#28 navyguy21
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I agree that MS hasnt been that flexible with developers. This is because for a long time, the gaming division was being run by corporate suits.

Not so anymore, but it takes time to come back from that.

That said, Johnny Blow is a douche, regardless of who is being a jerk to him.

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#29  Edited By PSP107
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@edidili said:

@jhcho2 said:

Just like how MS isn't treating their customers like shit when they implemented DRM right? You can always opt to not buy an Xbox One.

As for OP, what's the story?

JB hates MS.