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#1  Edited By NineTailedGoku
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The Truth

This is a very good read. I suggest everyone take the time to read through the article before posting. I can't support a company like Microsoft after seeing this. Manipulating all free journalism to decieve your customers instead of focusing on your strengths is downright disgusting. Imagine if Nintendo had the money to do the same thing with Wii U. Journalists would all be saying PS4=Wii U=XO. What do you guys think about Microsoft after this?

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@NineTailedGoku said:

The Truth

This is a very good read. I suggest everyone take the time to read through the article before posting. I can't support a company like Microsoft after seeing this. Manipulating all free journalism to decieve your customers instead of focusing on your strengths is downright disgusting. Imagine if Nintendo had the money to do the same thing with Wii U. Journalists would all be saying PS4=Wii U=XO. What do you guys think about Microsoft after this?

You didn't support them BEFORE you posted that link to the article. Who are you trying to fool?

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Like Sony doesn't do the same! LOL

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#5  Edited By kingtito
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@xhawk27 said:

Like Sony doesn't do the same! LOL

Sony can do no wrong.....according to cows. Remeber charging for online was dispicable, unthinkable and downright dirty........for MS but it's prefectly fine for Sony.

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#6 mems_1224
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So...MS's manipulation of the media is the exact same thing as everyone else's and that makes them bad? Makes sense.

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#7  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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That really opened my eyes to the truth

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#8 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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EXPOSED!

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#9  Edited By lostrib
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I don't see what the problem is

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@lostrib said:

I don't see what the problem is

You're clearly just brainwashed by Microsoft via their media manipulation

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#11  Edited By xhawk27
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@charizard1605 said:

@lostrib said:

I don't see what the problem is

You're clearly just brainwashed by Microsoft via their media manipulation

Like you Sony fanboys aren't! hahahahahahahah

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#12  Edited By NineTailedGoku
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@kingtito: I have an X1 preordered for DR3

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#13  Edited By Muffin2020
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There are 4 lights

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#14 lostrib
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@charizard1605 said:

@lostrib said:

I don't see what the problem is

You're clearly just brainwashed by Microsoft via their media manipulation

No, MS made all PC gamers promise to promote the X1 so that they would remove GFWL

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@kingtito: I have an X1 preordered for DR3

Better cancel

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#16  Edited By Douevenlift_bro
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Like Sony doesn't do the same! LOL

It should be frowned upon whoever does it. Your appropriate response shouldn't be "everybody eats shit, I do too!"

That's the mentality of one who's accepted a fate of failure. Microsoft is definitely the KING of money hatting and manipulation

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@xhawk27 said:

Like you Sony fanboys aren't! hahahahahahahah

*whoosh*

@lostrib said:

No, MS made all PC gamers promise to promote the X1 so that they would remove GFWL

So you admit to being manipulated then!

EXPOSED!

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@kingtito: I have an X1 preordered for DR3

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@charizard1605 said:

@xhawk27 said:

Like you Sony fanboys aren't! hahahahahahahah

*whoosh*

@lostrib said:

No, MS made all PC gamers promise to promote the X1 so that they would remove GFWL

So you admit to being manipulated then!

EXPOSED!

What was I to do? MS said they would remove the rootkit that sony installed on my computer

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@kingtito: I have an X1 preordered for DR3

and yet everythig you say is negative towards MS and has been for years. I'll believe it when you have YOUR XOne in your hands and actually show proof.

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#21  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

@xhawk27 said:

Like you Sony fanboys aren't! hahahahahahahah

*whoosh*

@lostrib said:

No, MS made all PC gamers promise to promote the X1 so that they would remove GFWL

So you admit to being manipulated then!

EXPOSED!

What was I to do? MS said they would remove the rootkit that sony installed on my computer

Buy the PS4, of course. It's by gamers, for gamers. #ThankYouSony #ThankYouLordKaz #AllHailPS4 #GreatnessAwaits #SDC

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@charizard1605 said:

@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

@xhawk27 said:

Like you Sony fanboys aren't! hahahahahahahah

*whoosh*

@lostrib said:

No, MS made all PC gamers promise to promote the X1 so that they would remove GFWL

So you admit to being manipulated then!

EXPOSED!

What was I to do? MS said they would remove the rootkit that sony installed on my computer

Buy the PS4, of course. It's by gamers, for gamers. #ThankYouSony #ThankYouLordKaz #AllHailPS4 #GreatnessAwaits #SDC

But then I have to pay for online....but i guess they let your account get hacked as an added bonus. So that's generous of them

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#23  Edited By NineTailedGoku
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@xhawk27: MS is paying to keep you ignorant about the power of their machine in comparison to their competitor. You don't see Toyota paying car reviewers to say their hp is as good as a Ferrari. Sad that you and other Lems are okay with this. If you read the article, you'd know Sony has never done anything like this. Don't see why you're defending them....

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@xhawk27 said:

Like Sony doesn't do the same! LOL

Thats funny because he basically gave many example of how the media destroyed sony for the PS3 problems on the early years,even that the difference wasn't even close to how big the gap is now..

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@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

@xhawk27 said:

Like you Sony fanboys aren't! hahahahahahahah

*whoosh*

@lostrib said:

No, MS made all PC gamers promise to promote the X1 so that they would remove GFWL

So you admit to being manipulated then!

EXPOSED!

What was I to do? MS said they would remove the rootkit that sony installed on my computer

Buy the PS4, of course. It's by gamers, for gamers. #ThankYouSony #ThankYouLordKaz #AllHailPS4 #GreatnessAwaits #SDC

But then I have to pay for online....but i guess they let your account get hacked as an added bonus. So that's generous of them

You also get free games that you have to pay for!

#SDC #ThankYouLordKaz #CreepyBabies

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@xhawk27: MS is paying to keep you ignorant about the power of their machine in comparison to their competitor. You don't see Toyota paying car reviewers to say their hp is as good as a Ferrari. Sad that you and other Lems are okay with this. If you read the article, you'd know Sony has never done anything like this. Don't see why you're defending them....

But yet you are buying one? Rise up and use your power as a consumer!!!!

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@charizard1605 said:

@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

@xhawk27 said:

Like you Sony fanboys aren't! hahahahahahahah

*whoosh*

@lostrib said:

No, MS made all PC gamers promise to promote the X1 so that they would remove GFWL

So you admit to being manipulated then!

EXPOSED!

What was I to do? MS said they would remove the rootkit that sony installed on my computer

Buy the PS4, of course. It's by gamers, for gamers. #ThankYouSony #ThankYouLordKaz #AllHailPS4 #GreatnessAwaits #SDC

But then I have to pay for online....but i guess they let your account get hacked as an added bonus. So that's generous of them

You also get free games that you have to pay for!

#SDC #ThankYouLordKaz #CreepyBabies

Yes! I'll take anything free that I have to rent

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@xhawk27 said:

@charizard1605

said:

@lostrib said:

I don't see what the problem is

You're clearly just brainwashed by Microsoft via their media manipulation

Like you Sony fanboys aren't! hahahahahahahah

Wait, Charizard is a Sony fanboy?

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Most people aren't stupid, they know that the PS4 is 50% more powerful, no matter what Microsoft tries to do

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This is insane. Cuz I remember when PS3 came out, EVERYBODY said something negative about. Worst part is, the power gap if there was one was so small.

Now there IS a clear power gap and you have "journalists" saying have fun enjoy the games you losers.... Wait, didn't you just tell us the 360 was better over smaller shit?

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So are NDA's new or something? I don't think so and its usually time sensitive.

and isn't Sony the one having a special "review party" for their games? Maybe that's changed but was the last I read a report on

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#32  Edited By lostrib
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@haveeked said:

Most people aren't stupid, they know that the PS4 is 50% more powerful, no matter what Microsoft tries to do

actually, if I had to guess, I would say that most people don't know the PS4 is 50% powerful

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Any big developers saying that about the Xbox One anywhere?Anyone talking about the cloud host OS reboots after updates and how that could affect people who don't even play multiplayer games?How about the possibility of the return of Microsoft's restrictive DRM policies? Anyone? Anywhere?

I think im stop reading this page... I check multiple gaming websites every day. Yesterday this was on ever freaking website. and he's acting like no one has

I went back WOW this dude whom ever wrote this is fucking stupid.

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@k2theswiss: major developers is the key word

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@NineTailedGoku: Are you canceling your so called pre-order or not? If not then you might as well delete this thread, as you are being a hypocrite.

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Knew it was a cinemablind article before clicking. Probably trying to get hits or payed by Sony. Pathetic

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#37  Edited By psymon100
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OK. I read the article.

This is very stupid. This article teaches nothing regarding Microsoft. This article presents no evidence of MS manipulating the media. Look at this:

"And let's not forget the public lambasting the PS3 received over the Madden 08 30fps frame rate incident, which blew up to all kinds of rage when it was discovered that the Xbox 360 version of the game ran at a buttery smooth 60fps. "

Oh yeah. The way how Microsoft manipulated the media into thinking 60fps was better than 30fps. ... Are you serious? Is this really a point of discussion? Sounds to me like a butthurt Playstation Fanboy, jealous of the Xbox 360's unified shaders.

There is no ownage here. And the Xbox One is getting a rough time out there, it is not looked at by the media with rose tinted glasses.

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@kingtito:

No, charging for online is despicable and MS brought it to gaming. Motion controls are lame and gimmicky and Nintendo brought that to gaming.

Now we PS fans are going to pay to play online because MS used the revenue from Xlive against Sony with game devs etc. and Sony is now doing it to compete in the gaming world that MS corrupted.

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#39  Edited By Snugenz
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@psymon100 said:

OK. I read the article.

This is very stupid. This article teaches nothing regarding Microsoft. This article presents no evidence of MS manipulating the media. Look at this:

"And let's not forget the public lambasting the PS3 received over the Madden 08 30fps frame rate incident, which blew up to all kinds of rage when it was discovered that the Xbox 360 version of the game ran at a buttery smooth 60fps. "

Oh yeah. The way how Microsoft manipulated the media into thinking 60fps was better than 30fps. ... Are you serious? Is this really a point of discussion? Sounds to me like a butthurt Playstation Fanboy, jealous of the Xbox 360's unified shaders.

There is no ownage here. And the Xbox One is getting a rough time out there, it is not looked at by the media with rose tinted glasses.

There has been alot of cow like articles coming from Cinemablend lately and that ex-IGN writer dude, but you know how it is on SW, anything negative about MS is beyond reproach, anything even slightly negative about Sony is a damn dirty lie and whoever said it deserves to be shot.

@clr84651 said:

@kingtito:

No, charging for online is despicable and MS brought it to gaming. Motion controls are lame and gimmicky and Nintendo brought that to gaming.

Now we PS fans are going to pay to play online because MS used the revenue from Xlive against Sony with game devs etc. and Sony is now doing it to compete in the gaming world that MS corrupted.

Yeah, i'm sure Sony just hated having to implement a service that would make them money.

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#40  Edited By blackace
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@NineTailedGoku said:

The Truth

This is a very good read. I suggest everyone take the time to read through the article before posting. I can't support a company like Microsoft after seeing this. Manipulating all free journalism to decieve your customers instead of focusing on your strengths is downright disgusting. Imagine if Nintendo had the money to do the same thing with Wii U. Journalists would all be saying PS4=Wii U=XO. What do you guys think about Microsoft after this?

I think Microsoft is fine. Publishers and developers don't need to bash the XB1 as Sony bias fanboys have been doing that since May. Like a broken record. The reason the NDA & Embargos are in place is because there were changes made that haven't been implemented into some of the games, but will be with a patch. The final XB1 devkit was changed as well and it can't be talked about until the NDA lifts. The PS3 didn't make any changes to their hardware before launch, so there was no software changes to be made and no NDA or embargos to be put in place. Patience...all will be revealed. lol!!

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@chikenfriedrice said:

That really opened my eyes to the truth

It opened my eyes to how bias trolling cows think and how low they will go to kiss Sony @$$ a few more times.

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#41 kingtito
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@clr84651 said:

@kingtito:

No, charging for online is despicable and MS brought it to gaming. Motion controls are lame and gimmicky and Nintendo brought that to gaming.

Now we PS fans are going to pay to play online because MS used the revenue from Xlive against Sony with game devs etc. and Sony is now doing it to compete in the gaming world that MS corrupted.

Yet cows except it now that Sony is doing it. Sony would have charged last gen but they knew it would be the death of the PS3 is that happened. Instead they used it against MS while and said online should always be free.

Cows still trying to pass opinions off as fact.

What? Sony is charging because it generates revenue and everyone knows Sony needs as much revenue as they can get. I don't think they want to sell more buildings.

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#42 shawn30
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http://www.destructoid.com/sony-nda-prohibits-developers-opinions-29482.phtml

Its business to use NDA. Every company that produces a product uses one in one way or another. I'm not a fan of the practice, but its old and widespread. Judge the videos, previews, and reviews of games for yourself. But remember, just cause someone has a opinion that's different than your own, don't go looking for a conspiracy around every corner. Sometimes its their opinion and that's just as valid as your own.

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I didn't bother reading it because to me this is just plain common sense.

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well we all know lems are weak minded, now we know why.

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#45 shellcase86
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Can't read. Blocked. Since you don't summarize, I have to assume it's something you're blowing out of proportion. Still don't care for MSFT, though.

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It would probably be a good idea to be more honest with gamers from now on. We know the "journalists" in this industry are more like independent marketing agencies for the industry than they are journalists of any type. People will geek out over new technology and figure out the truth of these new machines.

Might as well have a reputation for honesty at least if you're going to make a TVBroBox720 rather than leave it up to us to dig up the truth.

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#47 Zophar87
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Every dev is guilty of this but some are more guilty of it than others.

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#48  Edited By tormentos
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@lostrib said:

But then I have to pay for online....but i guess they let your account get hacked as an added bonus. So that's generous of them

Thats funny when you run windows which is the most abused hacked OS on the planet,not only millions of credit card frauds had been happening for years,but stolen identities,data wiped out,is there is something windows has no equal is on stolen data and damage cause to individuals is not even debatable you need an anti virus,and add ware and crap like that.

it has co many back doors and exploits is not even funny to compare it to consoles,your data is 1 million time safer on your console than on your PC.

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@tormentos said:

@lostrib said:

But then I have to pay for online....but i guess they let your account get hacked as an added bonus. So that's generous of them

Thats funny when you run windows which is the most abused hacked OS on the planet,not only millions of credit card frauds had been happening for years,but stolen identities,data wiped out,is there is something windows has no equal is on stolen data and damage cause to individuals is not even debatable you need an anti virus,and add ware and crap like that.

it has co many back doors and exploits is not even funny to compare it to consoles,your data is 1 million time safer on your console than on your PC.

Someone sounds awfully pissy and stupid. bububub the computer bubububu. Come back when Sony actually employed security instead of an etch-a-sketch you moron.

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#50  Edited By tormentos
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@psymon100 said:

OK. I read the article.

This is very stupid. This article teaches nothing regarding Microsoft. This article presents no evidence of MS manipulating the media. Look at this:

"And let's not forget the public lambasting the PS3 received over the Madden 08 30fps frame rate incident, which blew up to all kinds of rage when it was discovered that the Xbox 360 version of the game ran at a buttery smooth 60fps. "

Oh yeah. The way how Microsoft manipulated the media into thinking 60fps was better than 30fps. ... Are you serious? Is this really a point of discussion? Sounds to me like a butthurt Playstation Fanboy, jealous of the Xbox 360's unified shaders.

There is no ownage here. And the Xbox One is getting a rough time out there, it is not looked at by the media with rose tinted glasses.

GC: Are the console manufacturers leaning on you to avoid these sort of questions?

MR: [unsure - speaking to PR guy] I don’t know if that…

MR: [even more embarrassed to us] Yeah, there’s things that we… We sign NDAs with the first parties [i.e. Microsoft and Sony - GC] and there are things that we’re not allowed to talk about.

Did you read all 3 pages Activision basically confirm NDA are up that prevent then from talking,but this is not new since when we doubt that NDA exist.? They are pull every time by developers where ever they are question about something they can talk,like hardware or things like that NDA are not new on the industry.