Microsoft wins the console battle but will it win the patent war?

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Anyhoo, the story.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-12-04-us-judge-rejects-motorolas-attempt-to-ban-the-xbox-360-in-the-us-and-germany

US judge rejects Motorola's attempt to ban the Xbox 360 in the US and Germany

Microsoft wins the console battle but will it win the patent war?

A US judge has rejected Motorola's attempt to have the Xbox banned from sale in the US and Germany.

Motorola, owned by Google, has been embroiled in a nasty patent dispute with Microsoft that had threatened to halt the sale of the Xbox 360 in the US.

The patents at the heart of the dispute revolve around how the Xbox 360 decodes video content. Motorola claims ownership on the tech powering this and wants Microsoft to pay up to £2.5bn in royalties.

Back in June Motorola asked for a royalty of 2.25 per cent on each Xbox and 50 cents per copy of Windows for using its patents as part of a settlement. Microsoft refused.

This came after Judge David Shaw told the International Trade Commission that it should use a cease and desist order to ban imports of the Xbox 360 Slim 4GB and 250GB models into the US because, in his view, they infringed on four patents owned by Motorola.

He also wanted Microsoft to post a bond equal to seven per cent of the value of unsold Xbox 360s in the US.

Now, Motorola's case has been rejected as part of the overall patent trial. Judge James Robart said the patents in question were Frand-type innovations and therefore critical to industry standards. They should be licensed on fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory terms, he said.

The outstanding amount owed could be added to Microsoft's bill once the matter is resolved.

The case continues

Microsoft wins the console battleSecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battlekuraimen

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battlekuraimen

Secondly, me thinks they said that in the context of THIS story :o ya know, their console is not banned, they won that battle. :P

"Microsoft wins the console battle"

wut?

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battlekuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battleblue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Only in delusional lemminglandkuraimen

This.

Americans thinks their country is the world. If you think about the worldwide, it's PS3 > 360.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battleblue_hazy_basic

The War is this patent which that war rages on but at this point, MS won the battle to keep the 360 from being banned :o

TBA though, yeah, I was being sneaky and I used that line for the title knowing some would get all :shock: :twisted:

Oh, j/k and I not really all that disappoint. :P

Microsoft wins the console battleSecretPolice

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] For once i agree with kuraimen, it was clearly Wii>360>PS3, dear lems 2nd place isn't winning!GamerwillzPS

This.

Americans thinks their country is the world. If you think about the worldwide, it's PS3 > 360.

Microsoft already lost,blue_hazy_basic

Yikes, didn't realize just how easy many here would fail to put the topic title in context to the story,

The War is the Patent, the Console Battle was keeping it from being banned so 360 now = not banned.... battle won. :o

Sheeesh, I knew some would go off on the wrong tangent but so many :shock: C'mon warriors, step it up a bit will ya. :P

Orrrr, should I change the topic title ?

Orrrr, should I change the topic title ?SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battlekuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battleStrongDeadlift

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battleStrongDeadlift

Microsoft already lost, its just a question of how much they will have to pay. On a side note thank god the judge took a reasonable approach to this, patent law needs reform ASAP.blue_hazy_basic

I completely agree. The current patent system pretty much exists these days for corporations to sue one another and to try and monopolize technology innovation. There is far too much abuse and it creates a never ending stream of lawsuits as companies fight over what can or can't be patented and whether or not a certain product is illegal or not.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Only in delusional lemminglandSecretPolice

Indeed I mean, I've seen dozens of cow threads seriously trying their hardest to make the case PS3 won the console war and never see lem created threads doing the same and here all I do is make the title a C&P right from the article ( sneaky I know. ) where all the title is really saying is MS won the battle to keep 360 from being banned but yet here, the cows have gone quite Mad. SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Indeed I mean, I've seen dozens of cow threads seriously trying their hardest to make the case PS3 won the console war and never see lem created threads doing the same and here all I do is make the title a C&P right from the article ( sneaky I know. ) where all the title is really saying is MS won the battle to keep 360 from being banned but yet here, the cows have gone quite Mad. kuraimen

cows haven't been touting sales all generation long?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Indeed I mean, I've seen dozens of cow threads seriously trying their hardest to make the case PS3 won the console war and never see lem created threads doing the same and here all I do is make the title a C&P right from the article ( sneaky I know. ) where all the title is really saying is MS won the battle to keep 360 from being banned but yet here, the cows have gone quite Mad. CaseyWegner

cows haven't been touting sales all generation long?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol are you kidding? fanboys like you are so selective. Lems have been boosting sales the whole generation. Only now are they in denial over them and trying to act like they don't care. Don't be such a hypocrites lems.kuraimen

cows haven't been touting sales all generation long?

every year this entire gen was supposed to be the year the ps3 passed the 360 in worldwide sales.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

cows haven't been touting sales all generation long?

CaseyWegner

every year this entire gen was supposed to be the year the ps3 passed the 360 in worldwide sales.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battleStrongDeadlift

never see lem created threads doing the sameSecretPolice

Yikes, didn't realize just how easy many here would fail to put the topic title in context to the story,

The War is the Patent, the Console Battle was keeping it from being banned so 360 now = not banned.... battle won. :o

Sheeesh, I knew some would go off on the wrong tangent but so many :shock: C'mon warriors, step it up a bit will ya. :P

Orrrr, should I change the topic title ?

SecretPolice

Well played, sir, well played! :P

It's no suprised, really, few bother reading the OP if the title is inviting enough. But do keep it as it is, there may be more butthurt on the way! :twisted:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Microsoft wins the console battledelta3074

Keep repeating this to yourself, maybe you shall even believe it once :lol:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] For once i agree with kuraimen, it was clearly Wii>360>PS3, dear lems 2nd place isn't winning!GamerwillzPS

This.

Americans thinks their country is the world. If you think about the worldwide, it's PS3 > 360.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Only in delusional lemminglandBlbecekBobecek

Keep repeating this to yourself, maybe you shall even believe it once :lol:

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Not as much as lems even though the PS3 still outsells the 360 in a year to year basis to lems' limited minds NA means the world.kuraimen

every year this entire gen was supposed to be the year the ps3 passed the 360 in worldwide sales.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] More like Wii>PS3>360 according to the last official reports.kingtito

This.

Americans thinks their country is the world. If you think about the worldwide, it's PS3 > 360.

SP Approved. :)

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Yikes, didn't realize just how easy many here would fail to put the topic title in context to the story,

The War is the Patent, the Console Battle was keeping it from being banned so 360 now = not banned.... battle won. :o

Sheeesh, I knew some would go off on the wrong tangent but so many :shock: C'mon warriors, step it up a bit will ya. :P

Orrrr, should I change the topic title ?

Rocker6

Well played, sir, well played! :P

It's no suprised, really, few bother reading the OP if the title is inviting enough. But do keep it as it is, there may be more butthurt on the way! :twisted:

"Microsoft wins the console battle but will it win the patent war?"

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]never see lem created threads doing the sameJohnF111

Did he seriously wrote that?

These Lemmaynes, I cant even :P

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]never see lem created threads doing the sametonitorsi

Did he seriously wrote that?

These Lemmaynes, I cant even :P

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]never see lem created threads doing the sametonitorsi

Did he just went there :P

G'head, find me alll the lem created threads touting 360 won the console war, 360 graphics > PC graphics and the rest of the usual cow nonsense I see here. :o

Only one stipulation, LoosingEnds and the other guy,Ricky ? can't remember his name but he was just banned, they don't count. :twisted:

Anyhoo, there may be a few but to every one you find, there are at least 5 cow created threads of the same nature and bet most in SW would agree.

Plus the fact, I, the TC, never said with this thread that 360 won system wars. :P

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Yeah right! :lol:SecretPolice

Did he just went there :P

G'head, find me alll the lem created threads touting 360 won the console war, 360 graphics > PC graphics and the rest of the usual cow nonsense I see here. :o

Only one stipulation, LoosingEnds and the other guy,Ricky ? can't remember his name but he was just banned, they don't count. :twisted:

Anyhoo, there may be a few but to every one you find, there are at least 5 cow created threads of the same nature and bet most in SW would agree.

Plus the fact, I, the TC, never said with this thread that 360 won system wars. :P

Big difference, you said microsoft wins console battle to draw in people.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

Did he just went there :P

Meeeper282

G'head, find me alll the lem created threads touting 360 won the console war, 360 graphics > PC graphics and the rest of the usual cow nonsense I see here. :o

Only one stipulation, LoosingEnds and the other guy,Ricky ? can't remember his name but he was just banned, they don't count. :twisted:

Anyhoo, there may be a few but to every one you find, there are at least 5 cow created threads of the same nature and bet most in SW would agree.

Plus the fact, I, the TC, never said with this thread that 360 won system wars. :P

Big difference, you said microsoft wins console battle to draw in people.

Anyhoo, there may be a few but to every one you find, there are at least 5 cow created threads of the same natureSecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Anyhoo, there may be a few but to every one you find, there are at least 5 cow created threads of the same naturekuraimen

PS, I didn't think libraries opened this early. :shock: :twisted:

[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]One should never say never but WTH, Been there, went there and won there. (That's my cow response right there claiming victory dispite the facts.)

G'head, find me alll the lem created threads touting 360 won the console war, 360 graphics > PC graphics and the rest of the usual cow nonsense I see here. :o

Only one stipulation, LoosingEnds and the other guy,Ricky ? can't remember his name but he was just banned, they don't count. :twisted:

Anyhoo, there may be a few but to every one you find, there are at least 5 cow created threads of the same nature and bet most in SW would agree.

Plus the fact, I, the TC, never said with this thread that 360 won system wars. :P

SecretPolice

Big difference, you said microsoft wins console battle to draw in people.

Shady tactics will just award you infamy amigo.

But ok, ok, Okie dou'. Whatevs floats the boat, right. :P

Just be aware: if you play the game, be ready to get played. Catch my drift? :P

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

Big difference, you said microsoft wins console battle to draw in people.

tonitorsi

Shady tactics will just award you infamy amigo.

But ok, ok, Okie dou'. Whatevs floats the boat, right. :P

Just be aware: if you play the game, be ready to get played. Catch my drift? :P

Anyhoo, don't play with fire mah man but if you insist...

:P

TC finally proved how important it is that Cows get Wonderbook to learn how to read......

TC finally proved how important it is that Cows get Wonderbook to learn how to read......

Bruce_Benzing

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Anyhoo, there may be a few but to every one you find, there are at least 5 cow created threads of the same natureSecretPolice

PS, I didn't think libraries opened this early. :shock: :twisted: