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#1  Edited By AtariKidX
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.................lol

One of the big controversies leading up to Xbox One's launch is what's (unfortunately) being called "resolutiongate." Major multiplatform games are running at a lower resolution on Xbox One than PS4, which calls into question the console's capabilities. Microsoft Studios VP Phil Spencer has defended Xbox One, saying gamers shouldn't focus on the numbers, but the experience.

Phil wants people to not think about specs...i mean microsoft is charging 100.00 more for a greatly inferior piece of hardware.........lol

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#2  Edited By deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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I think I'll play the games and the resolution on the PS4 for $100 cheaper. Thank you MS. Thank you for making my decision like really easy.

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#3 shawn30
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I'll play the games, the features I want, the voice/motion controls, and all of that. Its up to each gamer what matters to them. There is no right or wrong answer. Its just what you want. I just don't give a crap about resolution. I do care about Titanfall, Fable Legends, Halo 5, and Quantum Break. Those games made my Xbox On choice quite easy.

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gamers shouldnt focus on numbers eh? so why do u brag about forza running 1080p if it isnt important?

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#5 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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Did the PS2 get the same kind of backlash that the Wii U and the One are getting over visuals on this forum?

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#6  Edited By mems_1224
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@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

Did the PS2 get the same kind of backlash that the Wii U and the One are getting over visuals on this forum?

lol it wasn't just worst graphics. ps2 games were missing parts of levels too compared to the xbox

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That's reasonable.

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I think I'll play the games and the resolution on the PS4 for $100 cheaper. Thank you MS. Thank you for making my decision like really easy.

Me too. I'll suffer having the most powerful video game console ever created in the history of video games.

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#9 -Damien-
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HAHAHA....loser talk

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#10 danabo
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PS4 has no games, Sony fans can only talk about resolution.

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#11  Edited By PrincessGomez92
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It's all about the games.

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It's all about the games.

....and PS4 have the best.

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@AtariKidX said:

@princessgomez92 said:

It's all about the games.

....and PS4 have the best.

Cool opinion.

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#14  Edited By Renegade_Fury
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I remember when the 360 was launching, they pretty much forced developers to make all of their games in 720p. Today's MS doesn't seem to be concerned about pushing forward anymore.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

gamers shouldnt focus on numbers eh? so why do u brag about forza running 1080p if it isnt important?

its a fact that the game is 1080p. but no one is buying it or any other game because its 1080p. Forza will be bought because of Turn 10's history of Forza games.

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Resolution is nice. But if I was dirt poor, with a standard def tv, I'd still game. In fact I did until late 2007. Still enjoyed my 360. Games. There both going to have them and I'm going to play as many as I can over the next gen. I just don't care enough about this difference, and there is a difference, to let it interfere with playing games.

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@AtariKidX said:

.................lol

One of the big controversies leading up to Xbox One's launch is what's (unfortunately) being called "resolutiongate." Major multiplatform games are running at a lower resolution on Xbox One than PS4, which calls into question the console's capabilities. Microsoft Studios VP Phil Spencer has defended Xbox One, saying gamers shouldn't focus on the numbers, but the experience.

Phil wants people to not think about specs...i mean microsoft is charging 100.00 more for a greatly inferior piece of hardware.........lol

Get your facts straight. MS is charging $100 more for the addition of kinect, which while not loved by gamers is in fact a fabulour piece of technology for the living room. If they removed kienct, the console would be at least $50 cheaper than ps4.

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#18 handssss
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I think everyone agrees games are most important, but there's standards. 1080p shouldn't have been such an unreasonable expectation for this new gen of consoles. Plus, Microsoft is starting to look really bad if that's their message after going on for months that there was little to no difference in power between the new systems.

Also, while their launch lineup at least looks more promising than what sony has to offer, many are still reminded by how quick MS has been to drop support of the core within just a few years into a console's life cycle.

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#19  Edited By blackace
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@Crossel777 said:

I think I'll play the games and the resolution on the PS4 for $100 cheaper. Thank you MS. Thank you for making my decision like really easy.

I think I'll play them both. LOL!! Thank you Sony and Microsoft. Thank you. LMAO!!

Have you ever played a great SNES or Dreamcast game? Was it 1080P 60fps? LOL!!

Specs are meaningless. It's about the games. Generations 1 - Generation 6, no one cares much about resolution when playing a game. Now it's a big deal. The fact that XB1 will have 1080P 60fps games this generation makes it even dumber.

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@princessgomez92 said:

It's all about the games.

....and PS4 have the best.

Well they have KZ:SF and...... hhhmm.. . Yeah KZ:SF is a really good start.

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#20  Edited By Netherscourge
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Translation:

We underestimated how important 1080p was to Next-Gen gamers when doing R&D on XB1 hardware, so now we're going to make excuses and divert your attention to our amazing upscaler!

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#21 handssss
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@blackace said:

@Crossel777 said:

I think I'll play the games and the resolution on the PS4 for $100 cheaper. Thank you MS. Thank you for making my decision like really easy.

I think I'll play them both. LOL!! Thank you Sony and Microsoft. Thank you. LMAO!!

Have you ever played a great SNES or Dreamcast game? Was it 1080P 60fps? LOL!!

Specs are meaningless. It's about the games. Generations 1 - Generation 6, no one cares much about resolution when playing a game. Now it's a big deal. The fact that XB1 will have 1080P 60fps games this generation makes it even dumber.

Terrible arguments. Why would we expect consoles that old to perform to those levels? A more time correct argument would be asking if it were acceptable for dreamcast games to be 8bit or SNES games to still rely on overlays. Technology gets better. Nobody is asking for top of the line tech in a console as they need to be affordable. But god damn, I've have a 1080p flat screen since 07.

And while people with money like us can shell out two virtually identical systems in games and features except for small differences, many people cannot. These people will take in to account the factors such as what can get them the most bang for their buck. Maybe the resolution differences would be less significant if the more expensive console was stronger, but it's not. It's $100 cheaper.

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@shawn30 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

gamers shouldnt focus on numbers eh? so why do u brag about forza running 1080p if it isnt important?

its a fact that the game is 1080p. but no one is buying it or any other game because its 1080p. Forza will be bought because of Turn 10's history of Forza games.

its a fact cod is 720p is it not? dont see ms putting an emphasis on that number in their posters. of course its about the game and not the numbers im just pointing out the hypocrisy. if resolution isnt important why put a heavy emphasis on it when advertising forza?

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Why can't we play both and at the same time?

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#24  Edited By Gue1
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@blackace said:

@Crossel777 said:

I think I'll play the games and the resolution on the PS4 for $100 cheaper. Thank you MS. Thank you for making my decision like really easy.

I think I'll play them both. LOL!! Thank you Sony and Microsoft. Thank you. LMAO!!

Have you ever played a great SNES or Dreamcast game? Was it 1080P 60fps? LOL!!

Specs are meaningless. It's about the games. Generations 1 - Generation 6, no one cares much about resolution when playing a game. Now it's a big deal. The fact that XB1 will have 1080P 60fps games this generation makes it even dumber.

is not about the games. If next-gen consoles did not have better specs they would be the same as playing PS3 or X360, so there would be absolutely no reason to upgrade games or not. What makes the experience to be different between these consoles is not the games, it's the specs.

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#25  Edited By StriateEnd
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@blackace said:

@princessgomez92 said:

It's all about the games.

....and PS4 have the best.

Well they have KZ:SF and...... hhhmm.. . Yeah KZ:SF is a really good start.

Have you seen the ps3s middle and end? Now compare that to the 360s middle and end. Yeah it's safe to say that the ps4 will have much better exclusives and multiplats.

What is the point of the x1 tbh? Mediocre third party money hats like dead rising 3 and ryse?

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play both on PS4

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#27  Edited By nini200
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Hilarious hearing Microsoft and it's fanboys talk about how resolution doesn't matter when it was one of the main things they pushed in Nintendo and it's fanboys faces during last gen. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, it's "the resolution doesn't matter, it's all about the games"

The eating of thine own words must taste bittersweet

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@bodde1972 said:

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@XxR3m1xInHDn3D: Which console came out first?

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@AtariKidX said:

.................lol

One of the big controversies leading up to Xbox One's launch is what's (unfortunately) being called "resolutiongate." Major multiplatform games are running at a lower resolution on Xbox One than PS4, which calls into question the console's capabilities. Microsoft Studios VP Phil Spencer has defended Xbox One, saying gamers shouldn't focus on the numbers, but the experience.

Phil wants people to not think about specs...i mean microsoft is charging 100.00 more for a greatly inferior piece of hardware.........lol

We get it........

PS4 = Hardware

Xbox One = Games, UI, Multimedia, Entertainment, XBL, Social Media, hundreds of more features and basically everything else.

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#33  Edited By Cyberdot
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Yeah, yeah, I'll play at 240p and that would be a wonderful experience.

What the hell is this douchebag thinking?

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#34 no-scope-AK47
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So pay 100 bucks more and get 720p that MS says is a better experience lmfao

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#35  Edited By deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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PS4
PS4
XBOX ONE
XBOX ONE

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#36  Edited By AtariKidX
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@nini200 said:

Hilarious hearing Microsoft and it's fanboys talk about how resolution doesn't matter when it was one of the main things they pushed in Nintendo and it's fanboys faces during last gen. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, it's "the resolution doesn't matter, it's all about the games"

The eating of thine own words must taste bittersweet

Lems are the new sheep..........lol but..but graphics don't matter..lol 1080p it is not big difference.Hilarious.........lolololol

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#37  Edited By TruthArisen
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Wonder Woman grins.

I'll enjoy the games and the resolution on my PS 4 and for $100 cheaper."

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#38 Zophar87
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No matter what he says I'm buying a PS4 first.

#dealwithit

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#40 silversix_
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Don't know how that damage control MS slave is playing his games but I play games IN certain resolution which mean i'm using both. We only do 720p. Moto of MS for 2013.

@ghostwarrior786 said:

gamers shouldnt focus on numbers eh? so why do u brag about forza running 1080p if it isnt important?

Spot on !~

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#41  Edited By xhawk27
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@AtariKidX said:

@princessgomez92 said:

It's all about the games.

....and PS4 have the best.

Not at launch they don't!

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@Chutebox said:

@XxR3m1xInHDn3D: Which console came out first?

The Dreamcast did and that was more powerful than the PS2

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@TruthArisen said:

Wonder Woman grins.

I'll enjoy the games and the resolution on my PS 4 and for $100 cheaper."

Wonder Woman needs to get in the kitchen and make sandwiches.

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PS4 has better games at 1080p for $100 cheaper. Sounds like shitty excuses from M$. No thanks, I'll have both in a week.

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#46  Edited By PrincessGomez92
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@walloftruth:

K?

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@Masculus said:

Why can't we play both and at the same time?

Why wouldn't you get a PS4? lol

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@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

Did the PS2 get the same kind of backlash that the Wii U and the One are getting over visuals on this forum?

Yes.

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#49  Edited By SolidTy
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@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

@Chutebox said:

@XxR3m1xInHDn3D: Which console came out first?

The Dreamcast did and that was more powerful than the PS2

The Dreamcast was not more powerful than the PS2, but it was easier to use AA which gave the DC a great showing against PS2 launch games. The DC was easy to develop for, although it wasn't super powerful. The PS2 was incredibly hard to develop for, much like the Sega Saturn, but eventually devs learned to cope with it and deliver great games. Later higher fidelity PS2 games like MGS2, GTA3, FFX, Gran Turismo 3, Madden, etc wouldn't have been possible on DC.

Even Sega's own NFL 2K and Virtua Fighter looked much better on PS2 compared to Sega's own Dreamcast once Sega went 3rd party. Power is measured by Polygons, Particles per second, CPU, etc...the DC wasn't as capable, but it was pretty amazing for hardware completed in 1998. It stood up great against PS2 early launch games, but within a year, the PS2's power started to widen the gap.

I love my Sega Dreamcasts, I have two, but it was the weakest machine in that generation. The DC hardware was completed in November 1998 and I imported it from Japan. It was released in the West a year later in November 1999. The later released but hard to develop for PS2 had the benefit of a later release, just as the GC and Xbox had that benefit a year after the PS2 release.

Nov. 1998 Sega Dreamcast completed. Released in 9-9-99 in the West, same day as NIN album The Fragile among other things.

Mar. 2000 Sony Playstation 2 completed. Released in Oct 2000 in the West. Westerners didn't have to wait a year this time, only half a year.

Sep. 2001 Nintendo Gamecube and Xbox Hardware. Xbox released in the US first in Nov, three days later Nintendo released the GC in that same month of Nov.

The release of the GC was neat because Japan only had a two month head start before the West got the machine in Nov 2001 in the west.

The PS4 is releasing in the west first...definitely strange times and Japan is getting the PS4 in Feb 2014! What a turn around as the battle for the Western market continues.

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#50 clr84651
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You can have the resolution and play the games on PS4. So what's his point?! He is pointless!