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#1 FreedomFreeLife
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http://www.oxm.co.uk/68799/sony-has-done-a-nice-job-with-ps4-says-xbox-ones-phil-spencer/

Microsoft Studios corporate vice-president Phil Spencer might bleed Xbox green, but he has a few warm words nonetheless for the competition. Speaking to OXM as part of a feature you'll find in our latest issue, Spencer described Nintendo's IP catalogue as "amazing", and praised Sony's commitment to franchises that aren't guaranteed best-sellers.

"Nintendo, I think - and there's some argument about this - that their first-party is such an amazing asset," he began, when our colleagues in the US asked what he had learned from rivals. "Their first party studios and IP can lead what they do as a company and the platforms are almost in service to the IP - not in a bad way.

"They have such iconic stories and this will seem somewhat random, but when we go back and do something like Killer Instinct, a little bit of the history of your franchise can actually be important part of people feeling connected. Obviously the history of Killer Instinct isn't a history on Xbox, but it's Rare's history and I think the reaction when we announced it on-stage at E3 showed that playing to the people's heart, I think Nintendo does that as well as anybody in terms of hitting the franchises and having huge success with them."

As for PlayStation, Spencer is cheered by Sony's willingness to back developers like Quantic Dream, creator of the intriguing but rather oblique Heavy Rain. "Sony - and I'm focused on first-party because of what I do - I really respect their focus on investing in new things and creative things, what they've done with David Cage and Quantic Dream around Beyond [Two Souls] and Heavy Rain; they stay committed to franchises even if they don't sell 10 million units, they'll stay committed to things.

"I think that long-term commitment to franchises is important, where it's easy to pull off the Band-Aid and move onto the next thing [if it doesn't sell]. I respect their 'stick-to-it-iveness'. I'll say, they've done a nice job with PS4 [...] When I think about their announcement, their clear focus on a customer, leading with the value proposition of what they're trying to do, staying true to a vision, I think they've done a nice job in how they defined the PS4."

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#2 ProtossX
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wtf why would microsoft say that?

and the ps4 isn't all that great i dont get why they said that craP?

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#3  Edited By Muffin2020
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@ProtossX said:

wtf why would microsoft say that?

and the ps4 isn't all that great i dont get why they said that craP?

First Rule of Marketing don't slag off your competition by name. That's why you get so many PR bullshit comments like "While the competition..."

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#4 FreedomFreeLife
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@ProtossX said:

wtf why would microsoft say that?

and the ps4 isn't all that great i dont get why they said that craP?

Because not everyone are bit-ch like you.

How about owning all consoles and play with all consoles? Just because you work for Sony dosent mean you must hate Xbox One and love PS4.

Looks like some people play games by "COMPANY NAME" than buying and playing games for fun.

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#5 ZamboniGamer
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@ProtossX:

It's called class!

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#6 k2theswiss
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if you don't keep an eye on your competition then your just going to run wild

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#7  Edited By Heil68
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Nice they recognize the world record launch sales SONY has achieved.

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#8  Edited By JohnF111
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Lems hearts just skipped a beat upon reading this, they can't understand the meaning behind praising the competition. Its something new to them.

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#9 chikenfriedrice
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Too bad Sony won't show the same type of class

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#10  Edited By Netret0120
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PR stunt but nice to see nonetheless. PS4 will be a fantastic console.

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#11 WG_McFartypants
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@JohnF111 said:

Lems hearts just skipped a beat upon reading this, they can't understand the meaning behind praising the competition. Its something new to them.

Whew! Got my dose of irony for the day.

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#12 WitIsWisdom
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@ZamboniGamer said:

@ProtossX:

It's called class!

LMAO... yeah... MS is just swimming in "class."

No, it is called keeping face and not burning any bridges.

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#13 JohnF111
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@wg_mcfartypants said:

@JohnF111 said:

Lems hearts just skipped a beat upon reading this, they can't understand the meaning behind praising the competition. Its something new to them.

Whew! Got my dose of irony for the day.

You are most welcome!

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@WitIsWisdom: no it's class. Sony just suit back and go "Yea were the best" then lose market share to the competition.

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@FreedomFreeLife: How dare this **** muscle even mention the name Rare. After what those suit's did to that company I will never buy or endorse anything Microsoft, their business practice is questionable and their ethics twisted,

And what he really meant about Sony was he respects them for making diverse exclusives, not recycled FPS games.

Go tell someone else Phil.

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#16 Telekill
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Glad to see the big corporations paying nice. Much nicer than their respective fanbases anyway.

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#17  Edited By I_can_haz
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lol nice to see MS aren't as dumb as their fanboys.

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#18  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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Lol, MS trolling Sony.

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#19 Suppaman100
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Sucks that MS did a sh*t job though. Weak overpiced casual driven POS hardware.

Lemmings like getting ripped off so I'm sure they'll have fun with casual kinect trash and crap like Ryse.

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@Phazevariance said:

@WitIsWisdom: no it's class. Sony just suit back and go "Yea were the best" then lose market share to the competition.

Although what you typed was hard to read, I think I got the gist of it... and no, it isn't class... lol

It was pretty classy of Microsoft forcing all those anti gaming practices to try and corner the market right? Good thing most of us knew better and MS had to change their ways in order to not take a HUGE loss. I guess it was "class" that led them away from all of those draconian practices and not greed right? That just screams "class" doesn't it?

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#21  Edited By asylumni
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Too bad Sony won't show the same type of class

Because MS has done such a great job at sticking to their vision and communicating that vision to their customers?

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@asylumni said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Too bad Sony won't show the same type of class

Because MS has done such a great job at sticking to their vision and communicating that vision to their customers?

What does that have to do with what I said?

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@I_can_haz said:

lol nice to see MS aren't as dumb as their fanboys.

Yes cows are top notch hahaha GTFOH

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#24 heretrix
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@ProtossX said:

wtf why would microsoft say that?

and the ps4 isn't all that great i dont get why they said that craP?

Well because maybe Phil Spenser isn't an immature dick that has a problem giving credit where credit is due.

It's usually a thing that well adjusted adults do from time to time.

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@WitIsWisdom said:

@Phazevariance said:

@WitIsWisdom: no it's class. Sony just suit back and go "Yea were the best" then lose market share to the competition.

Although what you typed was hard to read, I think I got the gist of it... and no, it isn't class... lol

It was pretty classy of Microsoft forcing all those anti gaming practices to try and corner the market right? Good thing most of us knew better and MS had to change their ways in order to not take a HUGE loss. I guess it was "class" that led them away from all of those draconian practices and not greed right? That just screams "class" doesn't it?

What the same ones Sony where going to do except Microsoft where planning on offering benefits such as family sharing and used game sales.

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@chikenfriedrice said:

@asylumni said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Too bad Sony won't show the same type of class

Because MS has done such a great job at sticking to their vision and communicating that vision to their customers?

What does that have to do with what I said?

Well, that's basically the praise he had in regards to the PS4 and it seems like you expect Sony to have returned the favor, somehow. But what about the Xbox One has MS done that's praise worthy? They launched and Sony congratulated them on a successful launch, what else? It seems like you're using a lack of opportunity to demonize Sony.

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@asylumni said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@asylumni said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Too bad Sony won't show the same type of class

Because MS has done such a great job at sticking to their vision and communicating that vision to their customers?

What does that have to do with what I said?

Well, that's basically the praise he had in regards to the PS4 and it seems like you expect Sony to have returned the favor, somehow. But what about the Xbox One has MS done that's praise worthy? They launched and Sony congratulated them on a successful launch, what else? It seems like you're using a lack of opportunity to demonize Sony.

So the X1 has nothing to offer worth praising? Okay

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Watch and learn MS, like you did with the Xbox 360 learning from the PS2, on how to be an excellent console.

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#29  Edited By WitIsWisdom
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@tdkmillsy said:

@WitIsWisdom said:

@Phazevariance said:

@WitIsWisdom: no it's class. Sony just suit back and go "Yea were the best" then lose market share to the competition.

Although what you typed was hard to read, I think I got the gist of it... and no, it isn't class... lol

It was pretty classy of Microsoft forcing all those anti gaming practices to try and corner the market right? Good thing most of us knew better and MS had to change their ways in order to not take a HUGE loss. I guess it was "class" that led them away from all of those draconian practices and not greed right? That just screams "class" doesn't it?

What the same ones Sony where going to do except Microsoft where planning on offering benefits such as family sharing and used game sales.

Whether they were planning on doing it or not is unproven. However, their shows spoke volumes to their intentions. Say what you will. I'll let you have this one because there is no way to have a debate with someone incapable of doing so.

By the way. I will own a X1 before too long and I already own the other two. I don't hold anything against the console or the companies that develop for the console. I will however never trust or fully support MS's gaming division ever again.

Collecting gaming media is something I have done for nearly 30 years... and MS tried to take that away. If the shoe was on the other foot and SONY pulled this stunt and then MS came out looking like the good guys then I would feel the exact same way about SONY. However, as it stands... that is not the case.... like it or not.

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#32  Edited By MrXboxOne
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@I_can_haz said:

lol nice to see MS aren't as dumb as their fanboys.

Does it crush your spirit to know Gamespot, IGN, Eurogamer, Adam Sessler, GameTrailers, Rev3gaming, Digital Foundry, Game informer and others (ALL the top gaming website experts), all award Ryse as "having hands down the best graphics of next gen."?

Even your own poll says Ryse. Your console is weak and worthless.... I know, I own a PS4, its a POS

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@mrxboxone said:

@I_can_haz said:

lol nice to see MS aren't as dumb as their fanboys.

Does it crush your spirit to know Gamespot, IGGN, Eurogamer, Adam Sessler, GameTrailers, Rev3gaming, Digital Foundry, Game informer and others (ALL the top gaming website experts), all award Ryse as "having hands down the best graphics of next gen."?

Even your own poll says Ryse. Your console is weak and worthless.... I know, I own a PS4, its a POS

*yawn*

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#34 MrXboxOne
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@Shewgenja said:

@mrxboxone said:

@I_can_haz said:

lol nice to see MS aren't as dumb as their fanboys.

Does it crush your spirit to know Gamespot, IGGN, Eurogamer, Adam Sessler, GameTrailers, Rev3gaming, Digital Foundry, Game informer and others (ALL the top gaming website experts), all award Ryse as "having hands down the best graphics of next gen."?

Even your own poll says Ryse. Your console is weak and worthless.... I know, I own a PS4, its a POS

*yawn*

Yes I agree,, the PS4 is a boring machine

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@I_can_haz said:

lol nice to see MS aren't as dumb as their fanboys.

Pot, meet kettle...

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#36  Edited By KratosYOLOSwag
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Unfortunately for MS its too late to play nice now. Sony will eat them alive this gen. I'll be enjoying it very much.

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#37  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@ProtossX said:

wtf why would microsoft say that?

and the ps4 isn't all that great i dont get why they said that craP?

Because real gamers respect more than one console...

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#38 applefan1991  Moderator
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Companies don't care about the fanboy wars. They care about making money hand over fist. Which both Micorosft and Sony are doing right now. They don't play fanboy wars as much as some people here think

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#39 lglz1337
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MS just recognized the living breathing world that is ps4

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#40  Edited By betamaxx83
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@ZamboniGamer: Yeah about that....MilkingSoft has class... Get outta here.

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#41  Edited By kuu2
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Of course they did. MSoft actually has intelligent people that know how to act. Sony on the other hand has paupers just playing business.

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#42  Edited By I_can_haz
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@Sushiglutton said:

lol priceless

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@Sushiglutton: hahaha lol

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i kinda feel sorry for MS, especially their die hard fanboys here.. LOL

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#45 Murderstyle75
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@kuu2:

Apparently you were a little kid during the Xbox 360 and PS3 launches. Probably too young to remember all the crap that Microsoft spewed against Sony back when they were in the position to do so.

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#46  Edited By kuu2
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@Murderstyle75: Ha............... You mean when Sony said they would have 4d, 2 HDMI outs, and the cell would change the world?????? Yeah I don't remember much of that. Or, when Sony said you should work harder to afford the PS3? Or, when Sony said the PS3 was way more powerful than the 36o? Yeah you are right I don't remember much of that............

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#47  Edited By Heil68
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Especially nice after Sony knocked MS the **** out at E3 and made them shit can their whole vision of the Xbone. SONY's Live, Learn and Love philosophy must be rubbing off on MS. That's nothing buy good news.

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#48  Edited By silversix_
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they raised the white flag and admitted defeat gg MS

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Nice how they've gone from "Announce a console without showing the console? That's one way to do it." to this in less than a year.

@FreedomFreeLife said:

"They have such iconic stories and this will seem somewhat random, but when we go back and do something like Killer Instinct, a little bit of the history of your franchise can actually be important part of people feeling connected. Obviously the history of Killer Instinct isn't a history on Xbox, but it's Rare's history

Which is why you hived it off to Double Helix while Rare churns out Kinect crap.

and I think the reaction when we announced it on-stage at E3 showed that playing to the people's heart, I think Nintendo does that as well as anybody in terms of hitting the franchises and having huge success with them."

Oh God, I've just had a chilling thought. What other Rare IPs are they holding hostage, just waiting to give to a C tier developer to bring in the nostalgics? Blast Corps?