Microsoft is the real monster.

Don't let Chutup read this, or he won't buy a 360 or Windows!!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25366246

This is is ANTISONY BOYCOTT thread because of BMG...crazy!

All big Corps are bad, but does their device entertain me?

Do you have any console related lies from M$, unlike sony who is full of them.

I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.cobrax25

dont have the time to read all that, does it have anything to do with video games?

I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.cobrax25

Do you have any console related lies from M$, unlike sony who is full of them.

mathew952

Console Related Lies, so we just look there and nowhere else? Why only there...uh-huh.

 What if someone could answer that, would you really care? NO, you wouldn't. And yes, M$ did pull some shenanigans with teh Xbox Hype, but that's what they all do so I don't care.

Yes lets forget sonys

Racist commerical
Lies
Arrogant ways
Spyware on music CD's
Poor quality Ps2 hardware



-DarthVader-

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.Skippyj9

I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.cobrax25

yes no doubt Microsoft isnt a shining angel, you would have to be naive to think any coorparation was.cobrax25

Some people that post on these boards are naive.

yes they are monster soo?? all companies care about profit as long as there is competition the consumers are the ones that wins

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]yes no doubt Microsoft isnt a shining angel, you would have to be naive to think any coorparation was.SolidTy

Some people that post on these boards are naive.

[QUOTE="-DarthVader-"]Yes lets forget sonys

Racist commerical
Lies
Arrogant ways
Spyware on music CD's
Poor quality Ps2 hardware



Skippyj9

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

Gamer556

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.Skippyj9

What dirty, greedy acts has Microsoft done with their gaming division? Not much at all. This is a gaming forum, not a computer software forum.

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

Skippyj9

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="-DarthVader-"]Yes lets forget sonys

Racist commerical
Lies
Arrogant ways
Spyware on music CD's
Poor quality Ps2 hardware



-DarthVader-

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]yes no doubt Microsoft isnt a shining angel, you would have to be naive to think any coorparation was.KungfuKitten

Some people that post on these boards are naive.

Wow...so true.

Ignorance is Bliss...

Sony's software installs itself by stealth, conceals itself, then intercepts low level Windows systems calls. Removing it causes the CD drive to be rendered inoperable. The only cure is to reformat the disk and reinstall Windows.

"Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?" he huffed.

I think we can take that as: "No responsibility at all."

(Hesse made his comments on NPR radio on Friday - you can hear them here, 1m:50s into the short report.)

But IT departments beg to differ.

A support manager at an IT department in a medium sized corporation told us that a CD-borne infection of Sony DRM is already causing his team headaches.

A major antivirus vendor diagnosed the problem as a nasty case of DRM, he told us, but the problem didn't end there. The Sony 'root kit' causes the antivirus software to go haywire, popping up alerts at the rate of one a second.

Three systems have so far been flattened, he said. The original culprit was a Van Zant CD - from Sony BMG.

And it gets worse.

On Sunday Mark Russinovich of Sysinternals.com, whose forensics last week identified the DRM as a 'rootkit' forbidden a look at the patch subsequently issued by First4Internet, the British company which wrote the crippleware.

All the patch does is force XP to issue Windows commands (eg, "net stop") that disable the driver. Because XP is a multithreaded OS, this is a brute force procedure that can cause the system to crash if resources are in contention.

Russinovich also notes that the Sony DRM software still contains vulnerabilities that expose a system to a potential blue screen of death. Instead of exiting gracefully and returning standard Windows system errors, the DRM exits disgracefully.

Which, we suggest, is exactly what Sony's Herr Hesse should be considering right now."

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.Gamer556

What dirty, greedy acts has Microsoft done with their gaming division? Not much at all. This is a gaming forum, not a computer software forum.

You can be mad at Microsoft if you want to. But stop being mad at Sony ?


Felous1

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

Skippyj9

I understand that Microsoft has been fined for illegal acts, and that's fine, but they can't be punished for outselling their competitors by a large margin. There is nothing illegal about that.

Don't forget the French Poet, Baudelaire :

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was

.

convincing the world he didn't exist"

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

Gamer556

I understand that Microsoft has been fined for illegal acts, and that's fine, but they can't be punished for outselling their competitors by a large margin. There is nothing illegal about that.

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.Skippyj9

What dirty, greedy acts has Microsoft done with their gaming division? Not much at all. This is a gaming forum, not a computer software forum.

And Sony could package PS3's with their TVs, and Nintendo could package DSes with their Wii's. Why don't you make a thread about that as well?

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.Gamer556

What dirty, greedy acts has Microsoft done with their gaming division? Not much at all. This is a gaming forum, not a computer software forum.

And Sony could package PS3's with their TVs, and Nintendo could package DSes with their Wii's. Why don't you make a thread about that as well?

Because there's no evidence to support Nintendo or Sony would do that. Microsoft has been known to have monopolistic tendencies.Skippyj9

[QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

cobrax25

I understand that Microsoft has been fined for illegal acts, and that's fine, but they can't be punished for outselling their competitors by a large margin. There is nothing illegal about that.

Yes, but there are no laws stopping consumers from buying what they want. The government can try and hault Microsoft's OS monopoly all they want, but they can never truly stopit as long as people keep buying Windows.

If you guys really want to fight the power, get off your Windows computers and go buy a copy of Mac or Linux. There's nothing stopping you.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

Gamer556

I understand that Microsoft has been fined for illegal acts, and that's fine, but they can't be punished for outselling their competitors by a large margin. There is nothing illegal about that.

Yes, but there are no laws stopping consumers from buying what they want. The government can try and hault Microsoft's OS monopoly all they want, but they can never truly stopit as long as people keep buying Windows.

If you guys really want to fight the power, get off your Windows computers and go buy a copy of Mac or Linux. There's nothing stopping you.

Maybe they have...

Maybe you missed my post :

Don't forget the French Poet, Baudelaire :

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was

.

convincing the world he didn't exist"

[QUOTE="-DarthVader-"]Yes lets forget sonys

Racist commerical
Lies
Arrogant ways
Spyware on music CD's
Poor quality Ps2 hardware



Skippyj9

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

Gamer556

I understand that Microsoft has been fined for illegal acts, and that's fine, but they can't be punished for outselling their competitors by a large margin. There is nothing illegal about that.

Yes, but there are no laws stopping consumers from buying what they want. The government can try and hault Microsoft's OS monopoly all they want, but they can never truly stopit as long as people keep buying Windows.

If you guys really want to fight the power, get off your Windows computers and go buy a copy of Mac or Linux. There's nothing stopping you.

I liked this post i made a bit ago and it applies fairly well to the topic so i will repost it.

it is a common misconception that sony,microsoft ect are heartless corperations concerned with making tons of money. in reality most corperations are made up of many decent people that want to make the company they work for the best one, they do this by making their respective product as best they can. Bill Gates has much more money than he is capable of spending but yet he does not retire. He dosnt do this because he wants more money, he wants to make his company the best one. Sony is the same way, they wanted to make the best system even though they knew it would not fair well initially with a high price tag. As far as ethics are concerned everything Sony has said or done is just to compete against other companys, it is no different than what sony and nintendo have done.   

[QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.Skippyj9

What dirty, greedy acts has Microsoft done with their gaming division? Not much at all. This is a gaming forum, not a computer software forum.

And Sony could package PS3's with their TVs, and Nintendo could package DSes with their Wii's. Why don't you make a thread about that as well?

No evidence? How about common sense. Nintendo and Sony would jump on a monopoly in a second, just like any other company out there. They're not charity organizations.

If they make a good console with good games on it, I really don't care.Raidea

Exactly. We should all be more like that. Honestly, these companies just want to entertain us, and all fun aside, some people take this gaming way to seriously.

[QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

Skippyj9

I understand that Microsoft has been fined for illegal acts, and that's fine, but they can't be punished for outselling their competitors by a large margin. There is nothing illegal about that.

Yes, but there are no laws stopping consumers from buying what they want. The government can try and hault Microsoft's OS monopoly all they want, but they can never truly stopit as long as people keep buying Windows.

If you guys really want to fight the power, get off your Windows computers and go buy a copy of Mac or Linux. There's nothing stopping you.

Great. Now it is up to you to convince the rest of the world that they are commiting a crime by purchasing Windows.

You do that while I accept my "ownage".

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.Gamer556

What dirty, greedy acts has Microsoft done with their gaming division? Not much at all. This is a gaming forum, not a computer software forum.

And Sony could package PS3's with their TVs, and Nintendo could package DSes with their Wii's. Why don't you make a thread about that as well?

No evidence? How about common sense. Nintendo and Sony would jump on a monopoly in a second, just like any other company out there. They're not charity organizations.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

This is such a stupid thread. Making money is the only goal in business, and turning the market into a monopoly is the best way to do it. If Nintendo or Sony were given the chance at a monopoly in gaming, do you honestly think they would turn it down? Hell no.

Gamer556

I understand that Microsoft has been fined for illegal acts, and that's fine, but they can't be punished for outselling their competitors by a large margin. There is nothing illegal about that.

Yes, but there are no laws stopping consumers from buying what they want. The government can try and hault Microsoft's OS monopoly all they want, but they can never truly stopit as long as people keep buying Windows.

If you guys really want to fight the power, get off your Windows computers and go buy a copy of Mac or Linux. There's nothing stopping you.

[QUOTE="-DarthVader-"]Yes lets forget sonys

Racist commerical
Lies
Arrogant ways
Spyware on music CD's
Poor quality Ps2 hardware



Skippyj9

I am amazed at how many people dont understand the fact that all Corparations are out to make money, they all twist, bully, and steal, all the time.cobrax25

Yes lets forget sonys

Racist commerical
Lies
Arrogant ways
Spyware on music CD's
Poor quality Ps2 hardware
-DarthVader-

Microsoft has:

Work before Family mentality
Lies
Arrogant ways
Spyware on EVERYTHING
Poor quality Xbox and Xbox 360 hardware
Poor quality Windows... constant bugs.

Microsoft is just as bad if not worse than Sony... :?