microsoft is f!cked 1st game publisher considering going to linux

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#101 Posted by pelvist (6717 posts) -

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

This probably has something to do with the Steambox being built around Linux. Maybe its the start of greater things to come, who knows.

MBirdy88

Yea, an operating system only a handful of people use... Why anyone think entertainment software that requires millions of users to profit will work on linux... linux is still not easy or consumor friendly, a bunch of geeks worshipping this idea is obsurd.

Until the Steambox comes along...

I expect Valve will have a custom version of Linux designed especially for their Steambox.

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#102 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
Good news! The faster we get rid of m$ the best for mankind and gaming
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#103 Posted by savagetwinkie (7981 posts) -

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="pelvist"]

This probably has something to do with the Steambox being built around Linux. Maybe its the start of greater things to come, who knows.

pelvist

Yea, an operating system only a handful of people use... Why anyone think entertainment software that requires millions of users to profit will work on linux... linux is still not easy or consumor friendly, a bunch of geeks worshipping this idea is obsurd.

Until the Steambox comes along...

I expect Valve will have a custom version of Linux designed especially for their Steambox.

no they won't, I highly doubt their big enough to support a new distribution of linux, especially with the rest of the industry honing in and focusing on Ubuntu....
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#104 Posted by spiderluck (2405 posts) -
[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] Joke right? At least enthusiasts will happily use Linux without any problems.

Enthusiasts...lol...oh no MS am fvcked

Great response! Very mature! So well thought out! I wasn't saying that MS was fvcked. MS makes barely any money off of PC gaming anyway. Now go flap your cvnt lips somewhere else.

yes ...as opposed to your incredibly mature response...back to your basement nerd
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#105 Posted by spiderluck (2405 posts) -
Good news! The faster we get rid of m$ the best for mankind and gaming kuraimen
Well start twiddling your thumbs...it's going to be a while
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#106 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -

You speak as if lems needed anything else besides Halo.

GreenGoblin2099
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#107 Posted by JohnF111 (14187 posts) -
[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Yea, an operating system only a handful of people use... Why anyone think entertainment software that requires millions of users to profit will work on linux... linux is still not easy or consumor friendly, a bunch of geeks worshipping this idea is obsurd.savagetwinkie

Until the Steambox comes along...

I expect Valve will have a custom version of Linux designed especially for their Steambox.

no they won't, I highly doubt their big enough to support a new distribution of linux, especially with the rest of the industry honing in and focusing on Ubuntu....

Is this a joke statement? There's a distribution out there supported by one man. Yes one and its also one of the best. A distro is not hard to make its a collection of software along with a kernel, each bit of software is supported independantly and the kernel is one of the most supported bits of software ever. Hardly a billion dollar venture to make a distribution.
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#108 Posted by ronvalencia (25417 posts) -

Can Windows 8 be used like a normal desktop or do you have to use their fancy new UI?

RyanShazam

Windows 8 be used like a normal desktop and treat the new Metro UI as a large start button. You can get the old start button for Windows 8 with StarDock's Start8 tool.

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#109 Posted by ronvalencia (25417 posts) -

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="pelvist"]

Until the Steambox comes along...

I expect Valve will have a custom version of Linux designed especially for their Steambox.

JohnF111

no they won't, I highly doubt their big enough to support a new distribution of linux, especially with the rest of the industry honing in and focusing on Ubuntu....

Is this a joke statement? There's a distribution out there supported by one man. Yes one and its also one of the best. A distro is not hard to make its a collection of software along with a kernel, each bit of software is supported independantly and the kernel is one of the most supported bits of software ever. Hardly a billion dollar venture to make a distribution.

Would that include near one-stop end user support?

If Valve sells a Linux PC to the end user, they must provide support for it. There's a thing in the sales contract that establishes a legal relationship between seller and buyer. There's no legal relationship between the buyer and "each bit of software" provider.

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#110 Posted by ronvalencia (25417 posts) -

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Yea, an operating system only a handful of people use... Why anyone think entertainment software that requires millions of users to profit will work on linux... linux is still not easy or consumor friendly, a bunch of geeks worshipping this idea is obsurd.savagetwinkie

Until the Steambox comes along...

I expect Valve will have a custom version of Linux designed especially for their Steambox.

no they won't, I highly doubt their big enough to support a new distribution of linux, especially with the rest of the industry honing in and focusing on Ubuntu....

How big is Ubuntu vs Redhat or Suse?

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#111 Posted by Wiimotefan (4150 posts) -

if this continues i wouldnt be suprised if windows one day found itself out of a job.

ionusX

Yeah, not in our lifetime. Windows is entrenched throughout the world. It would take some earth shattering events to bring Windows down. Even if for some crazy reason windows ceases to be the main os for games, it still wouldn't put a dent in the bigger picture.

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#112 Posted by ronvalencia (25417 posts) -

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Why go Windows 8 or make the transition to Linux when you can just stay on Windows 7.

Gxgear

Well, the upgrade pace for Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7.

Windows 8 uptake: More like Vista than Windows 7

The usage data also bolsters analysis of Microsoft's assertion that it sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses -- a number the company said is "in line" with Windows 7's first month. Experts did not dispute the 40 million, but noted that many of those licenses were tied to PCs that had not yet been sold to customers, and so Microsoft's number did not represent Windows 8's real-world use.

Experts disputed with Microsoft's "in line" with Windows 7's first month" pattern. These experts has claimed Microsoft has changed the measurement standard between Windows 7's 1st month sales and WIndows 8's 1st month sales.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/378391/microsoft-windows-8-outselling-windows-7

Microsoft says it has sold 40 million Windows 8 licences in the month since the launch, claiming it was setting a faster pace than Windows 7 three years ago.

The announcement contradicts earlier reports of slow sales for the latest Microsoft OS

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#114 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -
Lol Linux. Good luck convincing PC gamers to switch.clyde46
The only thing holding PC gamers back is the lack of game support. If all devs started making their game for linux, us PC gamers would have no problem jumping ship.
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#115 Posted by Gxgear (10425 posts) -

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Well, the upgrade pace for Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7.ronvalencia

Windows 8 uptake: More like Vista than Windows 7

The usage data also bolsters analysis of Microsoft's assertion that it sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses -- a number the company said is "in line" with Windows 7's first month. Experts did not dispute the 40 million, but noted that many of those licenses were tied to PCs that had not yet been sold to customers, and so Microsoft's number did not represent Windows 8's real-world use.

Experts disputed with Microsoft's "in line" with Windows 7's first month" pattern. These experts has claimed Microsoft has changed the measurement standard between Windows 7's 1st month sales and WIndows 8's 1st month sales.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/378391/microsoft-windows-8-outselling-windows-7

Microsoft says it has sold 40 million Windows 8 licences in the month since the launch, claiming it was setting a faster pace than Windows 7 three years ago.

The announcement contradicts earlier reports of slow sales for the latest Microsoft OS

Should have bolded the second part of that sentence, since that's where the significant point was made. It's only natural for Microsoft the reported the most favourable number to represent their product better.

I should have probably asked this before going off-topic about the adopt rate: what does the statistic have to do with gaming?

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#116 Posted by ronvalencia (25417 posts) -

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Windows 8 uptake: More like Vista than Windows 7

Gxgear

The usage data also bolsters analysis of Microsoft's assertion that it sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses -- a number the company said is "in line" with Windows 7's first month. Experts did not dispute the 40 million, but noted that many of those licenses were tied to PCs that had not yet been sold to customers, and so Microsoft's number did not represent Windows 8's real-world use.

Experts disputed with Microsoft's "in line" with Windows 7's first month" pattern. These experts has claimed Microsoft has changed the measurement standard between Windows 7's 1st month sales and WIndows 8's 1st month sales.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/378391/microsoft-windows-8-outselling-windows-7

Microsoft says it has sold 40 million Windows 8 licences in the month since the launch, claiming it was setting a faster pace than Windows 7 three years ago.

The announcement contradicts earlier reports of slow sales for the latest Microsoft OS

Should have bolded the second part of that sentence, since that's where the significant point was made. It's only natural for Microsoft the reported the most favourable number to represent their product better.

I should have probably asked this before going off-topic about the adopt rate: what does the statistic have to do with gaming?

For your "Windows 8 Store is a total disaster and completely unnecessary on legacy desktop" statement.

Statement "many of those licenses were tied to PCs that had not yet been sold to customers, and so Microsoft's number did not represent Windows 8's real-world use" claims there was a difference with MS's measurement standard between Windows 7's 1st month sales and Windows 8's 1st month sales.

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#117 Posted by DrTrafalgarLaw (4487 posts) -

Good news! The faster we get rid of m$ the best for mankind and gaming kuraimen
You know...just as I read the word mankind...I heard mankind on a podcast. This must be a sign.

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#118 Posted by deactivated-57ad0e5285d73 (21398 posts) -
Linux has essentially no OS, correct? This is good for wiiu or will miiverse drop below 720p(lol)?
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#119 Posted by finalstar2007 (27919 posts) -

Nah its ok.. all lems want is halo.. an alien masked dude ftw!

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#120 Posted by Gxgear (10425 posts) -

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

The usage data also bolsters analysis of Microsoft's assertion that it sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses -- a number the company said is "in line" with Windows 7's first month. Experts did not dispute the 40 million, but noted that many of those licenses were tied to PCs that had not yet been sold to customers, and so Microsoft's number did not represent Windows 8's real-world use.

Experts disputed with Microsoft's "in line" with Windows 7's first month" pattern. These experts has claimed Microsoft has changed the measurement standard between Windows 7's 1st month sales and WIndows 8's 1st month sales.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/378391/microsoft-windows-8-outselling-windows-7

Microsoft says it has sold 40 million Windows 8 licences in the month since the launch, claiming it was setting a faster pace than Windows 7 three years ago.

The announcement contradicts earlier reports of slow sales for the latest Microsoft OS

ronvalencia

Should have bolded the second part of that sentence, since that's where the significant point was made. It's only natural for Microsoft the reported the most favourable number to represent their product better.

I should have probably asked this before going off-topic about the adopt rate: what does the statistic have to do with gaming?

For your "Windows 8 Store is a total disaster and completely unnecessary on legacy desktop" statement.

Statement "many of those licenses were tied to PCs that had not yet been sold to customers, and so Microsoft's number did not represent Windows 8's real-world use" claims there was a difference with MS's measurement standard between Windows 7's 1st month sales and Windows 8's 1st month sales.

But I never said that? You must be mistaken.

The only thing I said so far was asking why would one consider moving to Linux or Windows 8 over staying with Windows 7.

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#121 Posted by Plagueless (2569 posts) -

Nah its ok.. all lems want is halo.. an alien masked dude ftw!

finalstar2007
Who's franchise has won Shooter of the Year back-to-back on Gamespot. :roll:
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#122 Posted by percech (5237 posts) -
What is so terrible about using Windows? People are such rebels these days.
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#123 Posted by delta3074 (19951 posts) -
Most users can't even use linux, i cannot see the majortiy of Pc gamers switch from an easy to use operating system with Stability to running games on an OS where they have to do ton of work just to get it to Run, this will not work until Linux is stable for gaming like windows But other than that most people will choose the easiest to use OS For gaming which would be windows and it will be years before Linux is ready as a gaming OS.
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#124 Posted by percech (5237 posts) -
Good news! The faster we get rid of m$ the best for mankind and gaming kuraimen
You use Windows, lol.
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#125 Posted by Sali217 (1301 posts) -
I never understood why people like Linux so much anyway. BSD is better in almost every way, and more true to the original variant of Unix.
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#126 Posted by NeonNinja (17318 posts) -

You speak as if lems needed anything else besides Halo.

GreenGoblin2099

This has nothing to do with Lemmings. :/

Or any faction really.

Linux support is great for the people that run that OS.

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#127 Posted by bulby_g (1854 posts) -

Personally I need Windows for various other bits of Software so I'd rather it just stayed there. Don't want to be messing around with two different operating systems.

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#128 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (7980 posts) -

You speak as if lems needed anything else besides Halo.

GreenGoblin2099

Lems? This is a Herms thing. PC gaming problem.

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#129 Posted by IgGy621985 (5449 posts) -

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Should have bolded the second part of that sentence, since that's where the significant point was made. It's only natural for Microsoft the reported the most favourable number to represent their product better.

I should have probably asked this before going off-topic about the adopt rate: what does the statistic have to do with gaming?

Gxgear

For your "Windows 8 Store is a total disaster and completely unnecessary on legacy desktop" statement.

Statement "many of those licenses were tied to PCs that had not yet been sold to customers, and so Microsoft's number did not represent Windows 8's real-world use" claims there was a difference with MS's measurement standard between Windows 7's 1st month sales and Windows 8's 1st month sales.

But I never said that? You must be mistaken.

The only thing I said so far was asking why would one consider moving to Linux or Windows 8 over staying with Windows 7.

I actually said that:P

And I still won't stand corrected because Windows 8 App Store just sucks.

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#130 Posted by PernicioEnigma (5881 posts) -
Lol Linux. Good luck convincing PC gamers to switch.clyde46
Actually, a lot of PC gamers would love for more quality games to run on Linux. And they would hardly be making a switch considering you can easily dual boot Linux and Windows.
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#131 Posted by percuvius2 (1982 posts) -

I wouldn't switch to linux so devs would only screw themselves. Windows kicks linux's ass

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#132 Posted by MBirdy88 (12230 posts) -

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Why go Windows 8 or make the transition to Linux when you can just stay on Windows 7.

Gxgear

Well, the upgrade pace for Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7.

Windows 8 uptake: More like Vista than Windows 7

Windows 8 isnt going away and will improve, as more hybrid devices become available windows 7 will become alot less relevant,
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#133 Posted by MBirdy88 (12230 posts) -

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="pelvist"]

This probably has something to do with the Steambox being built around Linux. Maybe its the start of greater things to come, who knows.

pelvist

Yea, an operating system only a handful of people use... Why anyone think entertainment software that requires millions of users to profit will work on linux... linux is still not easy or consumor friendly, a bunch of geeks worshipping this idea is obsurd.

Until the Steambox comes along...

I expect Valve will have a custom version of Linux designed especially for their Steambox.

So? You wont be able to actually USE linux, otherwise valve are going to have the ultimate piratable-console of all time. It wont be a linux pc, it will be a console with a locked version of linux... just like the xbox is a heavily locked version of windows ect. Everyone praises VALVE, and when Gabe slams Microsoft for wanting a store (which is more than justifiable to stay relevant against apple and google) yet mr gabe wants a locked down console, denies europeans the right to trade their software and continues to go in a "consilization" focus direction. Any money/effort/resources pumped into the steam box could into the "amazing pc fanbase" that worship the ground they walk on. Its all hypocritical BS. Steambox being linux means nothing, and doesn't change the fact that for PCs nobody is going to use linux.
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#134 Posted by MBirdy88 (12230 posts) -
[QUOTE="clyde46"]Lol Linux. Good luck convincing PC gamers to switch.AmazonTreeBoa
The only thing holding PC gamers back is the lack of game support. If all devs started making their game for linux, us PC gamers would have no problem jumping ship.

Can you stop[ talkinjg as if every pc gamer is a computer expert because they damn well arn't ... far from it. Linux is a nightmare for anyone that dones't want to give a damn about the little things, which I will easily bet is 99% of the PC Gaming community.
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#135 Posted by pelvist (6717 posts) -

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Yea, an operating system only a handful of people use... Why anyone think entertainment software that requires millions of users to profit will work on linux... linux is still not easy or consumor friendly, a bunch of geeks worshipping this idea is obsurd.MBirdy88

Until the Steambox comes along...

I expect Valve will have a custom version of Linux designed especially for their Steambox.

So? You wont be able to actually USE linux, otherwise valve are going to have the ultimate piratable-console of all time. It wont be a linux pc, it will be a console with a locked version of linux... just like the xbox is a heavily locked version of windows ect. Everyone praises VALVE, and when Gabe slams Microsoft for wanting a store (which is more than justifiable to stay relevant against apple and google) yet mr gabe wants a locked down console, denies europeans the right to trade their software and continues to go in a "consilization" focus direction. Any money/effort/resources pumped into the steam box could into the "amazing pc fanbase" that worship the ground they walk on. Its all hypocritical BS. Steambox being linux means nothing, and doesn't change the fact that for PCs nobody is going to use linux.

Look out everyone! Nerd rage!

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#136 Posted by MBirdy88 (12230 posts) -

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="pelvist"]

Until the Steambox comes along...

I expect Valve will have a custom version of Linux designed especially for their Steambox.

pelvist

So? You wont be able to actually USE linux, otherwise valve are going to have the ultimate piratable-console of all time. It wont be a linux pc, it will be a console with a locked version of linux... just like the xbox is a heavily locked version of windows ect. Everyone praises VALVE, and when Gabe slams Microsoft for wanting a store (which is more than justifiable to stay relevant against apple and google) yet mr gabe wants a locked down console, denies europeans the right to trade their software and continues to go in a "consilization" focus direction. Any money/effort/resources pumped into the steam box could into the "amazing pc fanbase" that worship the ground they walk on. Its all hypocritical BS. Steambox being linux means nothing, and doesn't change the fact that for PCs nobody is going to use linux.

Look out everyone! Nerd rage!

Look everyone, a moron with no real rebuttal .
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#137 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Good news! The faster we get rid of m$ the best for mankind and gaming percech
You use Windows, lol.

No I don't :| I prefer good operating systems
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#138 Posted by Heil68 (57859 posts) -
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You speak as if lems needed anything else besides Halo.

TheEroica
and you speak as if exclusives outclass multiplats... those days are over buddy.

No they are not and you know it! That's why Sony is so great.
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#139 Posted by PinnacleGamingP (5120 posts) -
nice try microsoft, this isnt going to shift pc gamers to xbox, if anything it will shift them to PS4
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#140 Posted by AdrianWerner (28438 posts) -

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Good news! The faster we get rid of m$ the best for mankind and gaming kuraimen
You use Windows, lol.

No I don't :| I prefer good operating systems

I prefer to use the best operating system, which currently is W8

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#141 Posted by SecretPolice (31997 posts) -

I see MS shaking in their proverbial boots :o Yeah right, redonkulous me thinks. :P

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#142 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="percech"] You use Windows, lol.AdrianWerner

No I don't :| I prefer good operating systems

I prefer to use the best operating system, which currently is W8

Lol
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#143 Posted by clr84651 (5634 posts) -

Xbox= Halo + Gears= Majority of USA buying xbox= MS making lots of money from xlive subscriptions etc.

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#144 Posted by AdrianWerner (28438 posts) -

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] No I don't :| I prefer good operating systemskuraimen

I prefer to use the best operating system, which currently is W8

Lol

so much denial

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#145 Posted by percech (5237 posts) -
[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Good news! The faster we get rid of m$ the best for mankind and gaming kuraimen
You use Windows, lol.

No I don't :| I prefer good operating systems

lmao. this liar.
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#146 Posted by deactivated-57d307c5efcda (1302 posts) -

Won't happen. Linux is way to small to make a decent profit on to be the only platform. They would have an easier time going to Mac OS. The linux os is not widely used, it's quite niche.

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#147 Posted by PinnacleGamingP (5120 posts) -
lemmings are owned
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#148 Posted by 2Chalupas (6625 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Lol Linux. Good luck convincing PC gamers to switch.JohnF111
A lot of gamers only use Windows because of games in the first place. If I could access all my games on linux I'd ditch Windows. Plenty of people are the same.

I've tried Linux for extended periods. Other than the fact that the laptops I've purchased always included windows pre-installed, there really isn't much reason to use Windows... aside from gaming as you say but I don't really even do much gaming. Pretty much everything I can do on a Windows PC I can do with Linux. 5 years ago there was alot of stuff I couldn't do with SuSe Linux, but having just tried out the latest Ubuntu distribution it was amazing how good it was... I dare say it's BETTER than Windows. I can't wait until Steam comes to Linux, I hope it takes off because I would really like to ditch Windows completely.

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#149 Posted by Gxgear (10425 posts) -

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Well, the upgrade pace for Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7.MBirdy88

Windows 8 uptake: More like Vista than Windows 7

Windows 8 isnt going away and will improve, as more hybrid devices become available windows 7 will become alot less relevant,

Maybe, but for now we'll stick with the facts.

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#150 Posted by Plagueless (2569 posts) -

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Windows 8 uptake: More like Vista than Windows 7

Gxgear

Windows 8 isnt going away and will improve, as more hybrid devices become available windows 7 will become alot less relevant,

Maybe, but for now we'll stick with the facts.

Windows 8 isn't quite what W7 was on release, no, but you have to understand that at the time o Windows 7's release users were desperate for a better OS. Vista was awful and as such the majority of users were still using the 8 year old XP, which was inconceivable for the modern PC gamer. When 7 released it was like a godsend to PC users everywhere, finally a more efficient user friendly system that actually worked. Windows 8 is a fine OS, it's just not the boom that 7 was. The hate on W8 is based on assumptions and ignorance.