Microsoft investing on hopes of the "next Halo"

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#51 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (44848 posts) -
Maybe a launch title for 720?
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#52 Posted by Icarian (1750 posts) -

Old, but still interesting. It'd be nice to see what these rookie devs have planned.FireSpirit117

I wouldn't really call them rookies. Most of the guys working there have more than a decade of experience.

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#53 Posted by Icarian (1750 posts) -

[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

[QUOTE="opex07"] I don't think MS would want to make a game that could potential compete against their own flag ship title (Halo).Vari3ty

Lead designer of Crysis 2? Well that's not good...

Sten Huebler. He also worked on Crysis as a lead level designer.

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#54 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (12477 posts) -
I hope this will be an excursion into another genre, other than FPS and skillful one at that.
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#55 Posted by FireSpirit117 (1926 posts) -

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]Old, but still interesting. It'd be nice to see what these rookie devs have planned.Icarian

I wouldn't really call them rookies. Most of the guys working there have more than a decade of experience.

Huh. It sort of came off like they were hiring a bunch of new talent, but I guess I missed that part.
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#56 Posted by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -
i took that info a week ago as microsoft wants other AAA+ title just as popular as halo.
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#57 Posted by balfe1990 (6747 posts) -

Another shooter? How about a platformer like Ratchet & Clank or Mario?

Blazerdt47

Ugh no, no platformers.

If they want one of those, they can just slap it on the XBLA where it'd be arguably more successful anyway. Waste of time making a full blown retail platformer.

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#58 Posted by clyde46 (49050 posts) -

Yay, another space shooter to add to the mountain of space shooters.

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#59 Posted by PAL360 (28805 posts) -

Good to see MS investiog in more core first party devs to add Turn10 and 343i! Now, let's hope Rare don't go kinect exclusive next gen.

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#60 Posted by GamingVengeance (1874 posts) -
Most likely will just be a linear space shooter
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#61 Posted by Icarian (1750 posts) -

[QUOTE="Icarian"]

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]Old, but still interesting. It'd be nice to see what these rookie devs have planned.FireSpirit117

I wouldn't really call them rookies. Most of the guys working there have more than a decade of experience.

Huh. It sort of came off like they were hiring a bunch of new talent, but I guess I missed that part.

55 people currently working there are quite experienced and they're hiring more experienced people. You can't really expect that MS would give tens of millions to bunch of rookies to make "next Halo."

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#62 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
M$ is a one trick ponykuraimen
Called it... lol
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#63 Posted by Blazerdt47 (5671 posts) -

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Another shooter? How about a platformer like Ratchet & Clank or Mario?

balfe1990

Ugh no, no platformers.

If they want one of those, they can just slap it on the XBLA where it'd be arguably more successful anyway. Waste of time making a full blown retail platformer.

Ratchet & Clank and Mario are some of the best games on their consoles. I rather have an adventure platformer than another shooter. Gaming in general is a waste of time.

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#64 Posted by DarkLink77 (32731 posts) -

Mad old, and still interesting, but you can't plan to make the next Halo or Call of Duty.

You just the best game you can. What makes it the next Halo is how people react to it.

Or, to quote Jason Jones, who, for those who don't know, co-founded Bungie and co-created Halo: "The only difference between entertainment that is successful and entertainment that fails is how people respond to it."

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#65 Posted by Heil68 (57844 posts) -
Will have mandatory Kinect(lol) implementation. lolz
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#66 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

Will have mandatory Kinect(lol) implementation. lolz Heil68

They've supposedly dropped Kinect.

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#67 Posted by SecretPolice (31948 posts) -

Next gen AAAE TPS franchise that replaces and surpasses Gearz :D

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#68 Posted by balfe1990 (6747 posts) -

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Another shooter? How about a platformer like Ratchet & Clank or Mario?

Blazerdt47

Ugh no, no platformers.

If they want one of those, they can just slap it on the XBLA where it'd be arguably more successful anyway. Waste of time making a full blown retail platformer.

Ratchet & Clank and Mario are some of the best games on their consoles. I rather have an adventure platformer than another shooter. Gaming in general is a waste of time.

They have limited appeal, discounting Mario of course. But that's the exception, he's been around for 25+ years and is synonymous with Nintendo and their consoles. People buy Xboxes for CoD and Halo primarily, thus logic would dictate they're going to create a shooter that'll aim to rival either of those.

And my point above still stands. There's no shortage of platformers on XBLA, one might even say there's an oversaturation. They had their heyday, but that's long past. For better or worse, shooting stuff is where it's at now.

And that's a very cynical view you have. I suppose everything is a waste of time in that case? Reading, walking, listening to music, socialising and so on?It's what you make of it.

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#69 Posted by DarkLink77 (32731 posts) -

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Another shooter? How about a platformer like Ratchet & Clank or Mario?

balfe1990

Ugh no, no platformers.

If they want one of those, they can just slap it on the XBLA where it'd be arguably more successful anyway. Waste of time making a full blown retail platformer.

Ratchet & Clank and Mario are some of the best games on their consoles. I rather have an adventure platformer than another shooter. Gaming in general is a waste of time.

They have limited appeal, discounting Mario of course. But that's the exception, he's been around for 25+ years and is synonymous with Nintendo and their consoles. People buy Xboxes for CoD and Halo primarily, thus logic would dictate they're going to create a shooter that'll aim to rival either of those.

And my point above still stands. There's no shortage of platformers on XBLA, one might even say there's an oversaturation. They had their heyday, but that's long past. For better or worse, shooting stuff is where it's at now.

And that's a very cynical view you have. I suppose everything is a waste of time in that case? Reading, walking, listening to music, socialising and so on?It's what you make of it.

[/QUOTE I'd be shocked if they're making another FPS franchise, unless they don't think Halo is gonna last. But they have a Halo factory now (343) and it seems like a total waste to have two exclusive FPS series because they might take away from one another. I don't recall the dude ever saying they were working on an FPS, either.
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#70 Posted by balfe1990 (6747 posts) -

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

They have limited appeal, discounting Mario of course. But that's the exception, he's been around for 25+ years and is synonymous with Nintendo and their consoles. People buy Xboxes for CoD and Halo primarily, thus logic would dictate they're going to create a shooter that'll aim to rival either of those.

And my point above still stands. There's no shortage of platformers on XBLA, one might even say there's an oversaturation. They had their heyday, but that's long past. For better or worse, shooting stuff is where it's at now.

And that's a very cynical view you have. I suppose everything is a waste of time in that case? Reading, walking, listening to music, socialising and so on?It's what you make of it.

DarkLink77

I'd be shocked if they're making another FPS franchise, unless they don't think Halo is gonna last. But they have a Halo factory now (343) and it seems like a total waste to have two exclusive FPS series because they might take away from one another. I don't recall the dude ever saying they were working on an FPS, either.

I don't think it'll necessarily be a FPS either. We already saw that MS canned Perfect Dark Core because they seemed content to have Halo fill their "Spacey FPS" role.

I do 100% believe it'll involve guns and murder though, in one way or another.

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#71 Posted by Heil68 (57844 posts) -

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Will have mandatory Kinect(lol) implementation. lolz lundy86_4

They've supposedly dropped Kinect.

MS? :o
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#72 Posted by Blazerdt47 (5671 posts) -

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="balfe1990"]

They have limited appeal, discounting Mario of course. But that's the exception, he's been around for 25+ years and is synonymous with Nintendo and their consoles. People buy Xboxes for CoD and Halo primarily, thus logic would dictate they're going to create a shooter that'll aim to rival either of those.

And my point above still stands. There's no shortage of platformers on XBLA, one might even say there's an oversaturation. They had their heyday, but that's long past. For better or worse, shooting stuff is where it's at now.

And that's a very cynical view you have. I suppose everything is a waste of time in that case? Reading, walking, listening to music, socialising and so on?It's what you make of it.

balfe1990

There is an oversaturation of platformers? If anything, that goes for shooters. Sly Cooper, Jak & Daxter, and Ratchet & Clank are all great franchises. Why would only Mario get a pass? I would love to see another Banjo Kazooie (a REAL Banjo game) or even a Blinx: The Time Sweeper reboot. Also why would Mario be an exception? Just because he's been around forever? XBLA platformers don't compare to full fledged action adventure platformers like Super Mario Galaxy, A Crack In Time, Zelda, etc...

Shooters are ruining gaming. Developers take less and less risks because they want a piece of that COD success. They are slowly converting their own franchises to appeal to COD fans. Activision shut down multiple studios and converted them to make yearly COD games instead. Capcom basically destroyed Resident Evil because they wanted the COD success. If there is an oversaturation of anything, it's shooters.

Though you said that they didn't mention it an FPS so hopefully it's not.

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#73 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Will have mandatory Kinect(lol) implementation. lolz Heil68

They've supposedly dropped Kinect.

MS? :o

lolno :P

Just Black Tusk Studio, for this game. Supposedly.

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#74 Posted by balfe1990 (6747 posts) -

There is an oversaturation of platformers? If anything, that goes for shooters. Sly Cooper, Jak & Daxter, and Ratchet & Clank are all great franchises. Why would only Mario get a pass? I would love to see another Banjo Kazooie (a REAL Banjo game) or even a Blinx: The Time Sweeper reboot. Also why would Mario be an exception? Just because he's been around forever? XBLA platformers don't compare to full fledged action adventure platformers like Super Mario Galaxy, A Crack In Time, Zelda, etc...

Shooters are ruining gaming. Developers take less and less risks because they want a piece of that COD success. They are slowly converting their own franchises to appeal to COD fans. Activision shut down multiple studios and converted them to make yearly COD games instead. Capcom basically destroyed Resident Evil because they wanted the COD success. If there is an oversaturation of anything, it's shooters.

Though you said that they didn't mention it an FPS so hopefully it's not.

Blazerdt47

Hey, I totally agree, we've got far too many shooters on the market. That genre will collapse in on itself in the not-too-distant future.

All I'm saying is MS want a new system seller. They know they can't coast off Halo's popularity forever, so they're investing in their own future. And what genre has proven to be the most popular with consumers time and time again? Shooters, hence the aforementioned copy cats. I'll be shocked if it's not another shooter, they have the highest success rate in this day and age. And we all know MS don't do anything unless there's promise of financial gain. They'll go with the least risky.

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#75 Posted by Vatusus (8107 posts) -

sigh*

all I keep hearing from MS is halo halo halo

I wouldnt mind supporting the next MS console if they made new IPs. Since they always keep putting out Halo I guess I'll rather keep supporting sony. Unless they put a "casual" vibe that is

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#76 Posted by After_Math (975 posts) -

sigh*

all I keep hearing from MS is halo halo halo

I wouldnt mind supporting the next MS console if they made new IPs. Since they always keep putting out Halo I guess I'll rather keep supporting sony. Unless they put a "casual" vibe that is

Vatusus
Lol wat. This... is a new IP? It's a shooter, and the developers want it to be as big as Halo.
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#77 Posted by KillzoneSnake (2273 posts) -

Sounds like the next COD wanna be exclusive for M$

I want killzone 4! hardcore! :oops:

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#78 Posted by TheEroica (17279 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]M$ is a one trick ponykuraimen
Called it... lol

You can get modded for quoting yourself... especially when the content is stupid.
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#79 Posted by TheEroica (17279 posts) -
[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Ugh no, no platformers.

If they want one of those, they can just slap it on the XBLA where it'd be arguably more successful anyway. Waste of time making a full blown retail platformer.

DarkLink77

Ratchet & Clank and Mario are some of the best games on their consoles. I rather have an adventure platformer than another shooter. Gaming in general is a waste of time.

They have limited appeal, discounting Mario of course. But that's the exception, he's been around for 25+ years and is synonymous with Nintendo and their consoles. People buy Xboxes for CoD and Halo primarily, thus logic would dictate they're going to create a shooter that'll aim to rival either of those.

And my point above still stands. There's no shortage of platformers on XBLA, one might even say there's an oversaturation. They had their heyday, but that's long past. For better or worse, shooting stuff is where it's at now.

And that's a very cynical view you have. I suppose everything is a waste of time in that case? Reading, walking, listening to music, socialising and so on?It's what you make of it.

[/QUOTE I'd be shocked if they're making another FPS franchise, unless they don't think Halo is gonna last. But they have a Halo factory now (343) and it seems like a total waste to have two exclusive FPS series because they might take away from one another. I don't recall the dude ever saying they were working on an FPS, either.

All good points... i dont feel theyll attempt to compete with halo and cod as they are the two biggest brands on xbox. I think we'll be looking at some narrative driven game with lots of action and light rpg elements. Setting? Who knows. Guns? Maybe but not a clone of halo or cod.
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#80 Posted by DontGetBigIdeas (252 posts) -
Halo is great and all, but if MS is banking on Halo then I'm out. I'm tired of them pimping the same four "core" franchises and acting like it's enough. I'm sick of constant Halo, Forza, Gears and relying on COD releases. This next gen needs a serious influx of new IPs and ideas across all platforms, but most importantly MS.
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#81 Posted by PressXtoJump (1484 posts) -
:lol:
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#82 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

Halo is great and all, but if MS is banking on Halo then I'm out. I'm tired of them pimping the same four "core" franchises and acting like it's enough. I'm sick of constant Halo, Forza, Gears and relying on COD releases. This next gen needs a serious influx of new IPs and ideas across all platforms, but most importantly MS.DontGetBigIdeas

This is a whole new IP.

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#83 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

:lol:PressXtoJump

So when Sony brings new IPs into the fold, they are to be lauded. However, when MS do it, they are to be mocked?

Odd world we live in, eh?

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#84 Posted by clyde46 (49050 posts) -

[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]Halo is great and all, but if MS is banking on Halo then I'm out. I'm tired of them pimping the same four "core" franchises and acting like it's enough. I'm sick of constant Halo, Forza, Gears and relying on COD releases. This next gen needs a serious influx of new IPs and ideas across all platforms, but most importantly MS.lundy86_4

This is a whole new IP.

But its like Halo.... The industry has too many shooters. I want a return to games that require you to think rather than being led through a level being told what I can and cant do.
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#85 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

But its like Halo.... The industry has too many shooters. I want a return to games that require you to think rather than being led through a level being told what I can and cant do.clyde46

Potentially, sure. I agree we need new diversity in the games we receive.

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#86 Posted by PressXtoJump (1484 posts) -

[QUOTE="PressXtoJump"]:lol:lundy86_4

So when Sony brings new IPs into the fold, they are to be lauded. However, when MS do it, they are to be mocked?

Odd world we live in, eh?

i noticed plural at the end of IP. IP's, and investing in this IP for the next 7 years, dont seem the same.
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#87 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

i noticed plural at the end of IP. IP's, and investing in this IP for the next 7 years, dont seem the same.PressXtoJump

"...brings new IP into the fold..." Does that seem gramatically correct to you?

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#88 Posted by DontGetBigIdeas (252 posts) -

[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]Halo is great and all, but if MS is banking on Halo then I'm out. I'm tired of them pimping the same four "core" franchises and acting like it's enough. I'm sick of constant Halo, Forza, Gears and relying on COD releases. This next gen needs a serious influx of new IPs and ideas across all platforms, but most importantly MS.lundy86_4

This is a whole new IP.

I'm stupid, the topic and article confused me. I thought it was "The Next Halo" as in Halo 5. Disregard. I'm dumb.

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#89 Posted by PressXtoJump (1484 posts) -

[QUOTE="PressXtoJump"]i noticed plural at the end of IP. IP's, and investing in this IP for the next 7 years, dont seem the same.lundy86_4

"...brings new IP into the fold..." Does that seem gramatically correct to you?

mmmm *this
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#90 Posted by Thefatness16 (4673 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]Halo is great and all, but if MS is banking on Halo then I'm out. I'm tired of them pimping the same four "core" franchises and acting like it's enough. I'm sick of constant Halo, Forza, Gears and relying on COD releases. This next gen needs a serious influx of new IPs and ideas across all platforms, but most importantly MS.DontGetBigIdeas

This is a whole new IP.

No. It's Halo, but perhaps in a new form (i.e. Halo Wars -- and RTS), but we will have to wait and see what it actually is, but it's still the Halo name and brand. A new IP would be something completely different. What I'm saying is tell new stories, create new characters and give us new experiences -- don't just copy paste a universe into something because you can and think it will sell well.

Again this is a new IP. Not related to Halo.

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#91 Posted by DontGetBigIdeas (252 posts) -

[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This is a whole new IP.

Thefatness16

No. It's Halo, but perhaps in a new form (i.e. Halo Wars -- and RTS), but we will have to wait and see what it actually is, but it's still the Halo name and brand. A new IP would be something completely different. What I'm saying is tell new stories, create new characters and give us new experiences -- don't just copy paste a universe into something because you can and think it will sell well.

Again this is a new IP. Not related to Halo.

Yeah i just realized I was reading it the wrong way. I'm stupid, disregard, etc.
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#92 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

mmmm *thisPressXtoJump

No, it isn't. Also, "this"?

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#93 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

I'm stupid, the topic and article confused me. I thought it was "The Next Halo" as in Halo 5. Disregard. I'm dumb.

DontGetBigIdeas

lol, it isn't the clearest throughout the article.

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#94 Posted by Heil68 (57844 posts) -

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

They've supposedly dropped Kinect.

lundy86_4

MS? :o

lolno :P

Just Black Tusk Studio, for this game. Supposedly.

Awww, darn it. "P
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#95 Posted by PressXtoJump (1484 posts) -

[QUOTE="PressXtoJump"]mmmm *thislundy86_4

No, it isn't. Also, "this"?

you started quotations with dots, which makes the quotations obsolete. Therefore introducing a new sentence, hence the use of "this". aside from this, and my improper use of Capital letters, you not only didn't use your original quote amongst the other quotes, which would have required a use of "this", you used a changed quote, which requires the use of "this". but hey, take this, and shove it.
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#96 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

you started quotations with dots, which makes the quotations obsolete. Therefore introducing a new sentence, hence the use of "this". aside from this, and my improper use of Capital letters, you not only didn't use your original quote amongst the other quotes, which would have required a use of "this", you used a changed quote, which requires the use of "this". but hey, take this, and shove it.PressXtoJump

Yep, however the former ellipsis was necessary and the latter should have contained 4, for the ellipsis and a full stop. However, the point was conveyed, regardless.

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#97 Posted by PressXtoJump (1484 posts) -

[QUOTE="PressXtoJump"]you started quotations with dots, which makes the quotations obsolete. Therefore introducing a new sentence, hence the use of "this". aside from this, and my improper use of Capital letters, you not only didn't use your original quote amongst the other quotes, which would have required a use of "this", you used a changed quote, which requires the use of "this". but hey, take this, and shove it.lundy86_4

Yep, however the former ellipsis was necessary and the latter should have contained 4, for the ellipsis and a full stop. However, the point was conveyed, regardless.

alas, the point was conveyed. i'd like to give you the benefit of being a simpleton. but simpletons and simpletons who try could be the difference in the following. . ^ my poetry is nothing, but i will try to rhyme this for you............................................... 1. the quotations with dots, creating a new sentence, could use the word this. 2. your quotes, blame gamespot, as they didn'd quote your sh!t. and finally. you used the word 'it' and not 'its'' to convey your own written wit again, not an ellipsis, even if you missed it. trips, full house, flush, royal been, hopes full of sickness so my tears are my only hope of being wet. i stock genious around me, so when my plural surrounds ye, i take a sword to the video game world, and hope for no game over :D
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#98 Posted by Killrnut (119 posts) -
TC, thanks for the info. Looks like MS is being smart and waiting for next gen to launch new IPs. "360 doesn't have games!!!!!" - failcows.
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#99 Posted by lundy86_4 (48648 posts) -

alas, the point was conveyed. i'd like to give you the benefit of being a simpleton. but simpletons and simpletons who try could be the difference in the following. . ^ my poetry is nothing, but i will try to rhyme this for you............................................... 1. the quotations with dots, creating a new sentence, could use the word this. 2. your quotes, blame gamespot, as they didn'd quote your sh!t. and finally. you used the word 'it' and not 'its'' to convey your own written wit again, not an ellipsis, even if you missed it. trips, full house, flush, royal been, hopes full of sickness so my tears are my only hope of being wet. i stock genious around me, so when my plural surrounds ye, i take a sword to the video game world, and hope for no game over :DPressXtoJump

If I did not use the first set of ellipses, then I would have used the word "this", in order to make it an integrated quote. I wasn't integrating it into the sentence.

Are you done trying to change the topic?

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#100 Posted by PressXtoJump (1484 posts) -

[QUOTE="PressXtoJump"]alas, the point was conveyed. i'd like to give you the benefit of being a simpleton. but simpletons and simpletons who try could be the difference in the following. . ^ my poetry is nothing, but i will try to rhyme this for you............................................... 1. the quotations with dots, creating a new sentence, could use the word this. 2. your quotes, blame gamespot, as they didn'd quote your sh!t. and finally. you used the word 'it' and not 'its'' to convey your own written wit again, not an ellipsis, even if you missed it. trips, full house, flush, royal been, hopes full of sickness so my tears are my only hope of being wet. i stock genious around me, so when my plural surrounds ye, i take a sword to the video game world, and hope for no game over :Dlundy86_4

If I did not use the first set of ellipses, then I would have used the word "this", in order to make it an integrated quote. I wasn't integrating it into the sentence.

Are you done trying to change the topic?

my gripe is bigger then you, why would i be done now?