Microsoft has one week to suppress COD and BF damage.

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#1 Edited by Jakandsigz (6341 posts) -

Let's be honest here, all 3 companies have made bad decisions, and despite these decisions, like Microsofts though to be for a group of people always online policy (and as proven by the near 2 million users and petitions people actually did want that.) were slightly ignored in the real world.

HOWEVER, for some very strange reason, the COD and BF resolutions, which even to the ignorant know that one number is bigger, and don't know what upscaling is (which is an additional problem) and this may be because COD is HIGHLY associated with Xbox Worldwideoutside Japan, has caused a reversal on consumer impact.

While the Polices hurt the gaming world and the rest of the casual community did not care, SOMEHOW, it's now the gaming community is mixed to not caring and the casuals are upset.

The whole COD being at a lower "P" than the PS4 to the average fool, is basically to them one number is bigger, and they don't know what Upscaled means. Including a lost of press reporters in community niches that have never played a VG in their lives.

When church magazines and school magazinesquestion whether that COD is being sold on a higher priced console that is weaker nationwide or worldwide that causes a problem

The original theory is that there is little to no difference or that it's the same. but the latest with this COD resolution combined with earlier bad dev tool limiting rumors is clearly causing a bigger stir in the public.

When I go to the office and looking through the investor reports and headline news for media that most of you people have to pay to view online, and see for myself in obscure papers the same opinion it's clear that Microsoft is in very bad trouble that is increasing very very fast.

Microsoft at the least needs to suppress this information. COD, which is often associated with Xbox, is most likely the primary issue to blame for the sudden belief that the Xbox One is "not ready" "Cost more and is weaker" and "other things" that is appearing in investor news, little people news, and random community news.

Microsoft's launch is way to close, and they need to work it out fast. They don't have the time they had with E3 to break out of it, they need to slow down the misinformation as fast as possible along with convincing people that the Xbox One has games that are this higher number "p" than its less expensive competition.

Basically MS has 7-9 days or they are screwed to pull a rabbit out their hat.

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#2 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

tl;dr

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#3 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

Devil May Cry 4, do remember, this is the PC version this is using 16xAA which hides pixel edges.

1920x1080 Native.

1280x720 upscaled to 1920x1080.

View these in a separate tab for full image sizes.

I will do more, but this is Infestation (PC exclusive)

These scenes are different as i have to exit the server to change resolution.

INB4 DAMAGE CONTROL EXTREME

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#5 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

o.0

You have just proven that you are a thick bastard lol.

The entire point is 1920x1080>>>>>1280x720.

Get a clue son shine.

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#6 Posted by Jakandsigz (6341 posts) -

@kingoflife9 said:

so, whats your point? both of those screen don't show anything more than a giant rock and the other has a giant rock and a tree.

use better examples for me to start believing that upscaled is the same as native.

Excuse me but the last pic has texture pop-in and the 3rd one doesn't.

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#7 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@Jakandsigz said:

@kingoflife9 said:

so, whats your point? both of those screen don't show anything more than a giant rock and the other has a giant rock and a tree.

use better examples for me to start believing that upscaled is the same as native.

Excuse me but the last pic has texture pop-in and the 3rd one doesn't.

Nope, both are different shots at different places lol, i am further back on the hill on 1920x1080, that is an issue with the game, i can't change res whilst being in a server, so getting the accurate spot is difficult.

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#8 Posted by Jakandsigz (6341 posts) -

@AMD655 said:

@Jakandsigz said:

@kingoflife9 said:

so, whats your point? both of those screen don't show anything more than a giant rock and the other has a giant rock and a tree.

use better examples for me to start believing that upscaled is the same as native.

Excuse me but the last pic has texture pop-in and the 3rd one doesn't.

Nope, both are different shots at different places lol, i am further back on the hill on 1920x1080, that is an issue with the game, i can't change res whilst being in a server, so getting the accurate spot is difficult.

So you are only hurting yourself now with having 2 pics at the same place and 2 in different places with the 1080p one showing texture pop-in and the 1st having none.

Your lack of PR skills gives you a job at Zynga, have fun.

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#9 Edited by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

There is no pop-in you dumb twat.

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#10 Posted by Netherscourge (16364 posts) -

A true, 1080p image compared to a true, 720p image at the exact same spot would show more SCREEN AREA on the 1080p image, even if the 720p image is upscaled to 1080p.

To counter that deficit, the 720p machine can have it's field of view adjusted so that the same amount of view in the 1080p image appears in the 720p image, although the 720p image will have blurrier and degenerated textures and AA. However, THAT can be compensated by altering the gamma levels and artificially boosting certain color scales. (as we saw in the BF4 comparison)

That's how it's going to wind up for the XB1 this generation - lots of FoV shifting and gamma-alterations to fit a 1080p display, via upscalers.

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#11 Edited by thedork_knight (1743 posts) -

does the average joe actually care

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#12 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

Yup.

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#13 Posted by Jakandsigz (6341 posts) -

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

It does now for some reason. May be because they hear "Wait, COD is Xbox, but XBOX COD has a lower "p" than the PS4 "p" and P must stand for power."

@AMD655 said:

There is no pop-in you dumb twat.

There's clear pop-in in oth the bottom pics actually but those glasses, I can write you a prescription.

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#14 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@Jakandsigz said:

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

It does now for some reason. May be because they hear "Wait, COD is Xbox, but XBOX COD has a lower "p" than the PS4 "p" and P must stand for power."

@AMD655 said:

There is no pop-in you dumb twat.

There's clear pop-in in oth the bottom pics actually but those glasses, I can write you a prescription.

Yup idiot as i thought, does not know what fog is, amazing.

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#15 Posted by thedork_knight (1743 posts) -

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

Yup.

the average joe will only care for what their friends play on. If they cared that much they would pick up the pc version

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#16 Edited by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

Yup.

the average joe will only care for what their friends play on. If they cared that much they would pick up the pc version

Nope because the average joe is a misinformed sole who still thinks a PC is just for facebook and porn, but fight on playground about consoles.

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#17 Posted by Jakandsigz (6341 posts) -

@AMD655 said:

@Jakandsigz said:

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

It does now for some reason. May be because they hear "Wait, COD is Xbox, but XBOX COD has a lower "p" than the PS4 "p" and P must stand for power."

@AMD655 said:

There is no pop-in you dumb twat.

There's clear pop-in in oth the bottom pics actually but those glasses, I can write you a prescription.

Yup idiot as i thought, does not know what fog is, amazing.

And yet you are assuming I am talking about something completely different than what I am saying because you are to ill to see properly. Next you will say you are going to say I don't know what foliage is instead of seeing the obvious pop-in in both the lower pics.

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#19 Posted by thedork_knight (1743 posts) -

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

Yup.

the average joe will only care for what their friends play on. If they cared that much they would pick up the pc version

Nope because the average joe is a misinformed sole who still thinks a PC is just for facebook and porn, but fight on playground about consoles.

so if the average joe is misinformed then why does it better if they ps4 version looks slightly better?

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#20 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

Yup.

the average joe will only care for what their friends play on. If they cared that much they would pick up the pc version

Nope because the average joe is a misinformed sole who still thinks a PC is just for facebook and porn, but fight on playground about consoles.

so if the average joe is misinformed then why does it better if they ps4 version looks slightly better?

Because it is majorly better, not slightly.

125% more pixels.

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#21 Posted by thedork_knight (1743 posts) -

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

Yup.

the average joe will only care for what their friends play on. If they cared that much they would pick up the pc version

Nope because the average joe is a misinformed sole who still thinks a PC is just for facebook and porn, but fight on playground about consoles.

so if the average joe is misinformed then why does it better if they ps4 version looks slightly better?

Because it is majorly better, not slightly.

125% more pixels.

gameplay is the same, you go on about people being misinformed but do you think they honestly care about the amount of pixels? or the fact which console their mates are playing on, and the fact that XO will getting everything COD first

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#22 Edited by mysticstryk (1709 posts) -

Nothing for Microsoft to suppress.

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#23 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

Yup.

the average joe will only care for what their friends play on. If they cared that much they would pick up the pc version

Nope because the average joe is a misinformed sole who still thinks a PC is just for facebook and porn, but fight on playground about consoles.

so if the average joe is misinformed then why does it better if they ps4 version looks slightly better?

Because it is majorly better, not slightly.

125% more pixels.

gameplay is the same, you go on about people being misinformed but do you think they honestly care about the amount of pixels? or the fact which console their mates are playing on, and the fact that XO will getting everything COD first

Because everyone plays COD, yeah you just lost, GG.

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#24 Posted by YD_11 (1867 posts) -

So with those pictures, what am I supposed to be noticing exactly? I guess there's a difference if you concentrate hard and long enough...

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#25 Edited by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@YD_11 said:

So with those pictures, what am I supposed to be noticing exactly? I guess there's a difference if you concentrate hard and long enough...

Or if you actually have working eyes i guess.

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#26 Posted by thedork_knight (1743 posts) -

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

Yup.

the average joe will only care for what their friends play on. If they cared that much they would pick up the pc version

Nope because the average joe is a misinformed sole who still thinks a PC is just for facebook and porn, but fight on playground about consoles.

so if the average joe is misinformed then why does it better if they ps4 version looks slightly better?

Because it is majorly better, not slightly.

125% more pixels.

gameplay is the same, you go on about people being misinformed but do you think they honestly care about the amount of pixels? or the fact which console their mates are playing on, and the fact that XO will getting everything COD first

Because everyone plays COD, yeah you just lost, GG.

Lol so you can't counter that? Or anything i've said

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#27 Edited by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

What is there to counter?

You talk as if everyone is going to play COD, and talk as if anyone buys a console based on who gets a game first LOL.

At least graphics are a real selling point.

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#28 Edited by shawn30 (4409 posts) -

Nope. Hardly. The side by side footage is out there for people to see. No more spin. No tricks. Gamers can see for themselves. And what alot of them are seeing is minimal differences at best. MS only needs to show games and be upfront about the resolution. Let people see for themselves. That will help far more than hurt. You're seeing the opinions start to shift already in the gaming community. Well not Sonygaf, but alot of other places

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#29 Posted by thedork_knight (1743 posts) -

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What is there to counter?

You talk as if everyone is going to play COD, and talk as if anyone buys a console based on who gets a game first LOL.

At least graphics are a real selling point.

lol weak sauce

yeah because people only buy games coz of their graphics

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#30 Edited by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

What is there to counter?

You talk as if everyone is going to play COD, and talk as if anyone buys a console based on who gets a game first LOL.

At least graphics are a real selling point.

lol weak sauce

yeah because people only buy games coz of their graphics

If that was the case, you would still be on PS1 right now, please talk more about your inferior console.

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#31 Edited by cainetao11 (33507 posts) -

@AMD655: You sir I thank. Two army buds, who are not so into games as to spend time on a site, like all of us. But have heard this latest big blow to Xbox one. Both owned PS3s last gen because they didn't want to pay to play COD. I just showed those pics to them. Neither could tell a big enough difference to cancel their X1 pre orders. Their exact words were "jesus some of those game fanatics like you need to get a real taste of whats important in life if this difference is so important to them".

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#32 Posted by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -

Too whom? Cows whom have no intentions of getting one? Bf look at videos they look the same lol. Cod ms not 2 mont lead on dlc lol.

Think the average user going care about some res?

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#33 Edited by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655: You sir I thank. Two army buds, who are not so into games as to spend time on a site, like all of us. But have heard this latest big blow to Xbox one. Both owned PS3s last gen because they didn't want to pay to play COD. I just showed those pics to them. Neither could tell a big enough difference to cancel their X1 pre orders. Their exact words were "jesus some of those game fanatics like you need to get a real taste of whats important in life if this difference is so important to them".

Casuals will stay casual mate.

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#34 Edited by shawn30 (4409 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655: You sir I thank. Two army buds, who are not so into games as to spend time on a site, like all of us. But have heard this latest big blow to Xbox one. Both owned PS3s last gen because they didn't want to pay to play COD. I just showed those pics to them. Neither could tell a big enough difference to cancel their X1 pre orders. Their exact words were "jesus some of those game fanatics like you need to get a real taste of whats important in life if this difference is so important to them".

More and more of that is spreading. Once agsain, we can debate through 100 pages, but all it takes is one link to side by side HF footage and you can see with your own two eyes how the difference isnt such a big deal at all. Maybe someday, but not today or for the foreseeable future.

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#35 Edited by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655: You sir I thank. Two army buds, who are not so into games as to spend time on a site, like all of us. But have heard this latest big blow to Xbox one. Both owned PS3s last gen because they didn't want to pay to play COD. I just showed those pics to them. Neither could tell a big enough difference to cancel their X1 pre orders. Their exact words were "jesus some of those game fanatics like you need to get a real taste of whats important in life if this difference is so important to them".

More and more of that is spreading. Once agsain, we can debate through 100 pages, but all it takes is one link to side by side HF footage and you can see with your own two eyes how the difference isnt such a big deal at all. Maybe someday, but not today or for the foreseeable future.

This is my own video, Onlive is 720p, obviously my PC is 1080p, tell me there is no difference.

Watch it fullscreen.

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#36 Edited by thedork_knight (1743 posts) -

@AMD655 said:

@thedork_knight said:

@AMD655 said:

What is there to counter?

You talk as if everyone is going to play COD, and talk as if anyone buys a console based on who gets a game first LOL.

At least graphics are a real selling point.

lol weak sauce

yeah because people only buy games coz of their graphics

If that was the case, you would still be on PS1 right now, please talk more about your inferior console.

dont insult my console i just dont think i can take it lol care to explain why the wii was so successful if people only buy because of the graphics

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#37 Posted by cainetao11 (33507 posts) -

@AMD655: Difference, yes. Big enough to care about? No. Ive been gaming since pong and I still love old games. But if resolution matters so much, how can I? Because I don't sit and count pixels. I PLAY THEM.

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#38 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

LOL, difference here, one looks far better than the other, why would you buy a more expensive console for less in actual power and visuals?

Or is it for 1 game COD? LOL

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#39 Posted by cainetao11 (33507 posts) -

@AMD655: You say that like its an insult, yet they are 80% of the consumer money being spent.

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#40 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655: You say that like its an insult, yet they are 80% of the consumer money being spent.

An insult to my intelligence yes indeed, i guess the majority of people are still kids, that is the only reason behind buying a more expensive product with less fidelity.

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#41 Posted by cainetao11 (33507 posts) -

@AMD655 said:

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655: You say that like its an insult, yet they are 80% of the consumer money being spent.

An insult to my intelligence yes indeed, i guess the majority of people are still kids, that is the only reason behind buying a more expensive product with less fidelity.

As I said to another in another thread: if what other gamers buy insults you or your intelligence, you are insecure and reliant on others for security. No Honda owners are insulted because other drivers buy Fords

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#42 Edited by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655 said:

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655: You say that like its an insult, yet they are 80% of the consumer money being spent.

An insult to my intelligence yes indeed, i guess the majority of people are still kids, that is the only reason behind buying a more expensive product with less fidelity.

As I said to another in another thread: if what other gamers buy insults you or your intelligence, you are insecure and reliant on others for security. No Honda owners are insulted because other drivers buy Fords

Obviously this affected you more than me, i am just answering a question, you are adding fuel and placing a self image on to me, but failing.

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#43 Posted by cainetao11 (33507 posts) -

@AMD655: Fail at the flip dude. Why do you feel others not caring about resolution and still buying an X1 insult your intelligence?

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#44 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

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@AMD655: Fail at the flip dude. Why do you feel others not caring about resolution and still buying an X1 insult your intelligence?

Not sure, go ahead and purchase stuff that barely pass 2005 hardware in resolution, whilst the competition enjoy 1080p the way it's meant to be played, i do not really care either way, all i am doing is trying to show you sense, but that is obviously too hard as people are set in stone about their rip off console.

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#45 Edited by Sweenix (5957 posts) -

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#46 Edited by LJS9502_basic (163075 posts) -

@thedork_knight said:

does the average joe actually care

Well they do buy TVs.....

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#47 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

Seems like xbox fans really cared about resolution, until there console couldn't do 1080p

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#48 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

too late, the damage has already been done. Only fanboys and misinformed people will buy an XB1.

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#49 Posted by cainetao11 (33507 posts) -

@AMD655 said:

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655: Fail at the flip dude. Why do you feel others not caring about resolution and still buying an X1 insult your intelligence?

Not sure, go ahead and purchase stuff that barely pass 2005 hardware in resolution, whilst the competition enjoy 1080p the way it's meant to be played, i do not really care either way, all i am doing is trying to show you sense, but that is obviously too hard as people are set in stone about their rip off console.

Dude I love psychology, am going to use my GI Bill to get my degree, was just trying to help. You seem intelligent, just don't know why it insults you that others do as they please. Do you own a car? Should everyone own the same one?

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#50 Posted by deactivated-58e448fd89d82 (4494 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655 said:

@cainetao11 said:

@AMD655: Fail at the flip dude. Why do you feel others not caring about resolution and still buying an X1 insult your intelligence?

Not sure, go ahead and purchase stuff that barely pass 2005 hardware in resolution, whilst the competition enjoy 1080p the way it's meant to be played, i do not really care either way, all i am doing is trying to show you sense, but that is obviously too hard as people are set in stone about their rip off console.

Dude I love psychology, am going to use my GI Bill to get my degree, was just trying to help. You seem intelligent, just don't know why it insults you that others do as they please. Do you own a car? Should everyone own the same one?

Sure if it meets all requirements, just like PS4 vs X1, COD is on both platforms LOL.