Metro Exodus will only release on Epic Store only! Steam users who Pre-order however!

You'd think if the game is 10 dollars cheaper on the Epic store, they wouldn't need exclusivity. They'd let competition play out and consumers make up their own minds.

Well, that's a shame;, I'll be boycotting Metro Exodus because of this. I don't expect anyone else to join me, but I will ask anyway. Was looking forward to it, too :(

I don't necessarily like publishers maintaining exclusivity over their own property, but I can understand it and; it's their content, they can do with it what they please.

But paying for exclusivity to property you yourself had no part in seems pretty corrupt, unfair, and dishonest to me.

The fact that this product was available on Steam at one point and was essentially stolen away from an open marketplace makes it even worse.

Yes, and no.

Console makers contract out to developers to make something for them. They say "Hey we need a game like ______ and will pay you to make it, but you can only make it for us". They have a hand in developing this product, so they can take sole ownership of it.

Streaming services generally maintain exclusivity over their own features. But for third-party shows and movies, you can generally watch them in a lot of places.

Business leaders, as you said, also like to maintain exclusivity, but for a lot of products that only lasts so long due to patents (or is it trademarks? or both? I can't remember...). Thankfully, those expire and competition takes over when other people can start making the product as well.

This is different. They're not necessarily paying for rights to solely produce something or have something made just for them;no, they're paying for rights to exclusively sell something.

In short, they're paying so others can't have it. Which is fucking childish and petty and about as a-capitalist as you can get imo.

I don't care much for DRM clients because as a SP-only gamer, I just want to play the game. I'm not interested in the other features offered by DRM clients such as Steam. I mean, kudos for those who like the features. Not for me. I use them mainly to buy and run the games. That's why the GoG model is my favorite. Download the install files and that's it. Everything else is left to me. I can do a far better job organizing my installed games and screenshots in the hard drive. Steam reminds me of a little kid who cleaned his room. Looks good up front. Then, look under the bed or inside the closet and it's a mess. But. enough of that.....

Owning the game doesn't make its reviews immune from the bogus crap. Just looking at the Far Cry 4 reviews.... I wonder if some of them really played the game. Half the time, all I see are generic buzzwords. I rather go to YT where I can see for myself details many failed to mention. No need for comments. I can see for myself. If I was an uniformed player and based what I learned about FC4 from Steam reviews, I would think this was from a different game. Hardly any mention of it from the first few pages.

I suppose I can be mad about paid exclusivity. But, it's been done so much already that it can be regarded as part of the times. There are a lot of things we bent over and got shafted for in the past: forced activation, DRM, DLC..... Forced Paid exclusivity is just another thing to tolerate. Whatever ethical differences there are between Steam and Epic, from my point of view as a buyer, it's the same. I can only buy a certain game from one place.

It's a one year deal, and looking at the released PC specs for the game, my 4770K with 970 would not be a great performer anyway, so might as well not worry about it, not to mention that I never pay more than 15€ for a single game in any case. Just wonder if they will release the game for full price on Steam in 2020, or it will be heavily discounted day 1.

Fųck Epic. This is not competition, it's per game forced monopoly.

It's so sad seeing all the Epic sheep in Steam forums praising this move, and you know why? because Epic store does not have forums, so they have to use Steam to shit on Steam and suck Epic's dick.

@mirautaj: thats why america is the best

This is the main problem I'm having here too.

It's not like Epic is actually developing these games, or paying for the development of these games.

Nah, they bring absolutely nothing to PC gaming, just swoop in 2 weeks before a game's release and buy its exclusivity with a big bag of money.

I swear: I'm never buying anything off the Epic Game Store.

The fact that Metro Exodus is cheaper for US customers but not European ones pisses me off as well.

I don't know how PC gamers will be able to deal with having to download a free app, that on top of that offers free games and beneficts both developers and gamers. Someone has to stop this madness!

People have to stop with this 'bu bu bu Epic is benefiting everyone'-nonsense

Before I could buy a game any place I'd want: Be it humble bundle, steam, greenmangaming, or a key site. Any place I'd want or where I'd find the cheapest price;

Epic paying for these exclusivity deals means that the only place to buy Metro Exodus from now on is on the Epic game store. They bought their own important position.

So yeah, I do take offense with having to download 'a free app'. Especially when that 'free app' is paying to get a monopoly on selling games. Steam never did that. Epic is playing dirty tricks in my book.

@R4gn4r0k: I get it, now you have to walk all the way to the Epic store to buy a game. Specially in winter it sucks.

Except I don't :)

I don't have to buy from a store I have no intent on buying from. Especially when it's too creatively poor to invest in its own games and just scoops up games from other vendors (Steam, humble bundle, greenmangaming, etc...) to sell on its store exclusively (again, something which no other store has ever done, not even Steam)

You might not see a big deal here, but why on Earth would I want to support Epic? Because they have a monopoly on selling a game? Nah, no thank you!

it's free for now , who knows what they're gonna do next if their scheme works out , .... maybe a monthly subscription fee

@the_master_race: That I won't contest because it's a real possibility, but the same could be said of any store. But as it stands now I see no issue. STEAM abused its position and now it's being punished. Who knows, this might even push them to go back to their neglected IPs.

A great percentage of people were always critical of STEAM. They did nothing to improve. Developers were unhappy and they kept doing nothing. So it's great that something is actually happening. Having to click on another icon on a desktop seems like a minor inconvenience to me.

No they're not......... A strong AA and not close to AAA.....yet.

well im loyal to 4A games and Metro series. i will play where ever they put it in.

i need to support 4A games. they are one of the most talented dev around.

you could have pre ordered it on steam and gotten the reviews and forums of steam it was only 10 dollars more than epic store

2 things.

I never preorder games.

I never buy games on day 1 no matter how good or how hype i am for game. always wait for price drop. more or less. its might be week or 20 days after launch i buy the game.

oh okay I thought you were gonna get it no matter didn't know you wait for sales/reviews

Previously....

i need to support 4A games. they are one of the most talented dev around.

Lmaooooooo....what a complete fake boy......always goes around saying Metro games are the best (When they're average at best) and then says this above...

You're not wrong that people have complained about Steam. But you are wrong that this is a better option. Seriously, read up on it. We've listed a bunch of its problems here in these threads over and over. And they know they are on thin ice - so they are buying exclusives and offering freebees (for now) to try to drag people onto their platform. People like Protossrush going gaga over it isn't exactly the endorsement I'm holding out for.

This is a sleazy company that's already had to walk back on sleazy business practices in the store's ridiculously short life. And here you're just mocking people for being babies and not bending over. Like our concerns are just because we're blind Steam fanboys (when in reality I at least would buy everything on GoG if I could)

This store is pro-developer, anti-consumer. Nothing wrong with the former on its own, but definitely with the latter. If they make big big changes in their model, give gamers back a voice, stop buying exclusives, embrace mods, and implement community tools to bring PC gamers together who share the game, rather than the store (instead of their current system which just fragments them)... I'll happily give their store more of my attention (and money).

Not me. I don't like any DRM. But, I have to tolerate them. Epic is just another one to add to the list. Hell. The last Epic game I bought was Bulletstorm and it's only the 3rd Epic game I ever bought. Unreal Tournament 1999 and Unreal Tournament 2004 were the other two. Actually, make that two. UT 1999 came free with a video card.

Two games over the course of 3 decades hardly makes me an Epic squeeze. I saw all these paid exclusivity on consoles. So now, it's on PC as well. I guess it's a console world after all. So long as I'm still gaming? I don't really care.

Service exclusivity makes sense

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@the_master_race: That I won't contest because it's a real possibility, but the same could be said of any store. But as it stands now I see no issue. STEAM abused its position and now it's being punished. Who knows, this might even push them to go back to their neglected IPs.

A great percentage of people were always critical of STEAM. They did nothing to improve. Developers were unhappy and they kept doing nothing. So it's great that something is actually happening. Having to click on another icon on a desktop seems like a minor inconvenience to me.

well im loyal to 4A games and Metro series. i will play where ever they put it in.

i need to support 4A games. they are one of the most talented dev around.

you could have pre ordered it on steam and gotten the reviews and forums of steam it was only 10 dollars more than epic store

2 things.

I never preorder games.

I never buy games on day 1 no matter how good or how hype i am for game. always wait for price drop. more or less. its might be week or 20 days after launch i buy the game.

Previously....

i need to support 4A games. they are one of the most talented dev around.

Lmaooooooo....what a complete fake boy......always goes around saying Metro games are the best (When they're average at best) and then says this above...

im just telling people that please support this game. rather than deep silver policy.

it used to be top seller and top wishlist on steam and would have sold alot. now many of those are away from it which is sad. because game itself looks and feel amazing.

4A games deserve a huge success.

Hmmm... Well that's a bit fucky.

lol it actually was.

Deep Silver seems to be completely out of it.

Nice to see some corporate shitheels who lost their shit when MS paid for 1year exclusivity on Tomb Raider back Epic on this.

Sigh.....damn, looking more and more like I'll have to get DOOM: Eternal when it comes out only on the Bethesda launcher. Really don't like having more launchers but hot damn does that game look good from the gameplay.

what they did was terrible move. im expecting lot of people will bombard on metacritic review without even playing it and complaining about its not on steam.

lot of people are blaming 4A games when they are just developers. they dont have any power at all.

lot of great developers are paired with bad companies.

Id software with bethesda

Eidos montreal with square enix

Respawn with EA

and now 4A with Deep silver.

Sorry man, I'd love to support them, but they made their bed, now they have to sleep in it.

I'll wait a year when the exclusivity deal expires and I can get it on GoG, Steam, etc.

I'd say that I hope they sell enough pre-orders to be profitable, but that'd be a lie. With a little luck, this exclusivity deal will backfire. Then again, I imagine Epic-Tencent paid them an assload of cash already so probably not.

Yeah Deep Silver was always the worst, I was hoping they could turn things around under THQ Nordics control, but nah.

They pull out a bad move like this.

well they could reverse thier decision after negative responses.

other steam games by deep silver getting negative reviews in 12 hours.

Not sure why people get upset when we say we are not interested in investing in another launcher.

No matter how good the game is... I already have enough. I also choose not to support Tencent. Unfortunately this is looking like I'll pass.

Shame tho.... because this had day 1 purchase all over it.

Rage 2 is confirmed to be on Bethesda launcher only, so I think its safe to assume the same for DOOM Eternal, which sucks because I played the hell out of Doom 2016 on Steam and got alot of achievements too. I personally like what I saw from Eternal and guess I'm heading to Bethesda launcher.

Publishers are starting to leave Steam, Valve sure did something wrong to piss them off it seems.

Sweeeeet! Timed exclusive confirmed by PC gamer... will return to steam on Feb 14 2020.

Looks like metro is a 2020 game for me. Let's me check out all the other gems early 2019.

They lost a ton of sales, that's for sure.

It might return to steam in a year, but that's way too late, people's interest will have faded.

Valve didn't piss off anyone. There are two simple facts:

-Valve takes a 30% cut off of every game sold through Steam (and DLC)

-Creating your own DRM... ahem 'store' is easy

So nothing is stopping Bethesda, Activision, EA to take their games off steam and try their own luck. And they did.

It's not like you'll have all the DRM clients running at the same time, except maybe those that require two.

Agree 100%

Steam has been doing this exact thing with many games, im surprised people defend steam so much, ive used steam my whole life, not because i want to, but because they are the biggest one with the biggest catalouge. Publishers know this too, they know steam has a monopoly on PC so they sell thier game there, thats why, not because they love steam. Steam sales have gotten bad last few years, Valve has gotten fat and lazy, but it still makes me chuckle to watch gabe groupies cry lol.

I've been seeing an awful lot of negativity about this in various places and that should have Deep Silver worried but what they should be more worried about is the invasion fleet building on the horizon flying the Jolly Rodger. While Steam and Key sites have greatly reduced Captain Jack Sparrow and his ilk over the past few years, Epic are on the verge of creating a whole new generation of high sea swash bucklers which will set us back years.

Don't know about anyone else here but I don't want to go back to the days of companies like Ubisoft claiming 95% piracy rates and always on DRM for single player games

Luckily the exclusivity is only timed. If I still care in 2020.... I'll scoop it up then.

it was perfect opportunity for long sandbox single player FPS to be success and sale. but deep silver screwed it up. its like they hate metro and want it to be failed so they allign with epic.

people are blaming 4A on steam when they done nothing but work hard to deliver best possible FPS this gen. they need to part away from deep silver.

i will buy it to support 4A.

Sure thing man, but this will damage the brand. And I fear this will be the last Metro game, unless console sales more than make up for the lost Steam sales.

it was always be last metro game. its conclusion of story with artyom leaving metro once for all.

i just hope next 4A game wouldnot be publish by deep silver.

I pre ordered so I hope its good.

indeed and i cant believe how many people are actually rooting EPIC for this. Me i rather stick to steam thanks to clear easy refund and review platform

or GOG thanks to DRM free games and since is not coming to either platform is a no buy for me and is not like EPIC store has any advantage over other DD stores. Price at least here in EU is the same and Epic store lacks a lot of features that are on Steam and even GOG

Tell me about it...... they think its adding competition to Valve/steam when in reality its not.

By forcing people to only be able to play a PC game through Epic Games Launcher weeks before launch removing another option..... That is anti-consumer. Epic also do not allow the selling of keys to 3rd party outletsEpic Games Store is another step which literally removes competition. Also the fact that EPIC store/launcher has well known security issues and not so easy refund system, also lack Steam's features and broad user base. Hurts us even more. Its not competition for us the consumer its only enticing publishers with a up front large sum of money to get exclusive rights to promote shady semi chinese owned company, and for an extra bit of profit per copy.....

If sales on consoles make up for the slack, then that's where the developers will target their future games.

it wont mostly not, Metro series is nothing like COD etc sales wise.

No, Steam has not been doing this exact thing AT ALL. Valve does NOT pay 3rd party publishers for exclusive deals to only be on Steam.

Steam also do not have a monopoly by the very definition of the word. I can buy games on Amazon, in brick and mortar stores, greenmangaming, gog, the list goes on. You have other methods of purchasing most games. Even if they do require Steam to activate, you still have the option to buy the vast majority elsewhere. This is also not the case with the Epic Games Store. Everything is closed to their store. Buying exclusives and not allowing 3rd party keys to be sold is so anti-consumer it's ridiculous. I get taking shots at Steam is cool and it for sure could use some good competition. However, throwing cash at publishers to have their games exclusive to your own shitty store that's light-years behind the competition is anti-consumer to its very core. They also let the game sit on Steam, raking in the promotion and exposure being on the most popular stores gives your game only to pull it a measly 2 weeks from launch. Scummy. Epic has been scummy all around.

There seems to be an exodus away from steam ;0

I think my position is changing a little away from wanting everything to be on Steam.

I also don't give a shit enough to install 5 million game clients on my machine either though. It is just kinda ridiculous and I don't know the answer.

I want to be able to join the games of my friends seamlessly without bullshit and I don't want to run like 20 platforms simultaneously.

I feel like open sourcing the entire Steam platform would be one solution, but of course they'd probably rather close shop.

https://www.dualshockers.com/metro-exodus-physical-copies-epic-key/

This is really bad. Physical preorder copies will include an epic key instead of a steam key even though they advertised preorders as steam keys. Uninformed customers who paid off their preorder will not be happy when they get their copy.

Le shame

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-01-28-epics-latest-pc-exclusive-is-metro-exodus