@kejigoto said:
@ghosts4ever: Because Arkham Knight sucked. Top to bottom. Arkham City was my favorite game that generation and Knight was awful.
For starters the story was not only a rethread of the first game (emptying the asylum/city) but you see the "twist" coming from a mile away with the remixed Red Hood storyline being "borrowed" to create the Arkham Knight. To cap that off pretty much everyone phones it in except Mark Hamill but at the same time much of his role in the game is unneeded but they killed Joker in the last game so gotta find a way to include that icon of a villain. Go back and watch Oracle's fake death scene and tell me anything about the aftermath made you think it was real. Was it Conroy's simple utterance of "no" before moving on like nothing happened?
Gameplay wise the whole thing revolves around the Bat-Tank which feels more akin to something out of Armored Core than Batman and really starts throwing things into question as to how the **** Batman isn't killing anyone despite running them down doing over 100 mph in an armored tank with a jet engine strapped to it and discharging high voltages of electricity to render victims unconscious upon contact.
This stupid thing took over the game so much not only is it used to solve nearly every puzzle like Gotham civil engineers figured everyone would have a Bat-Tank of their own to power elevators and doors but motherfucking Riddler builds entire race tracks for you under Gotham and kidnaps Catwoman who gets to stand on a square for the entire game until you do all the Riddler challenges which used to be inventive puzzles to earn trophies but are now just races and time trials because Bat-Tank.
And the damn thing isn't even fun to drive but it does really show you how much of the world map was designed to let you fly around in that with no regard to actual city layout leaving Gotham to feel like it was made to house Batman instead of Batman being made to work within Gotham.
Arkham City was superior in every possible way to Knight.
I've played the shit out of all the Arkham games and honestly, in my opinion, it goes Arkham Origins > Arkham Knight > Arkham City >>>>>>> Arkham Asylum.
My opinion used to be the same as yours on Arkham Knight sucking, but the more I re-played it, the more I liked it. It's different, it's almost a different Batman game, it's less Gothic for sure. The boss fights are ass though in Arkham Knight.
I like Arkham Origins the most, because to me it's an expanded version of Arkham City. It's a slog at the beginning until you can unlock critical hits in the Sheeva side mission and the 5x combo change for grabs. But once you do, it's better game imo. That's why City goes to third place, because it's not quite as needed in second place.
The combat in AK is improved with small touches. I'm happy to play both Origins and Knight the most. I love the extra DLC content in Arkham Knight as well. The extra costumes and Batmobiles.
Arkham Asylum was ruined for me by how powerful "Detective Vision" was. Arkham Asylum could have been a game I'd spend hours on collecting secrets, but DV just showed you everything. So as enjoyable as it was the first time, there's nothing to make you go back to it once you're finished.
I agree they needlessly spelt out the Arkham Knights twist by explaining who Jason was, but I think the dilemma was that to most people, they'd reveal it and the average casual Batman fan might go "who the **** is Jason and what does he mean to Batman?". So I kind of understand why they did that. I'd prefer they didn't, but hey. It would have been one of the biggest twists in gaming for some time.
With the Batmobile, I think you're trying to add too much logic to it. Sure, they added a whole lot of plot armour but it's not that bad, and the Riddler races can be fun. If you use this logic for Origin's and City, has Batman ever really glided around the whole city before? He apparently built a grappling device out of nth metal that he can shoot it and use it to propel him 100,000 times while saving the whole city by his powerless lonesome self all in one night without even eating, drinking or resting once.
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