Lol. How is PSPlus better than Gamepass?

Yeah, I didn't expect this, at all. All I've been reading online is how Gamepass is the best deal in gaming, but not only is a yearly subscription to PSPlus extra and ea play is less expensive, the ps exclusives are better and they're mostly sharing their "indie" offerings.

What am I missing here with gamepass? Doesn't seem like much. I'm not sure how having day one access to a broken game like halo infinite or an extremely boring and ruined franchise like gears is a net positive.

I guess gamepass is the greatest deal in gaming if you're not aware ps plus exists. 🤷‍♂️

Game Pass blows away PS Plus, PS Plus Extra and PS Plus Premium.

As someone who doesn't use PS+ for anything other than discounts and online play, I can't give you an answer that would be satisfactory. However, I've seen what PS+ offers and every month they offer games I don't want to try. So I'm glad I don't subscribe to their services for their monthly offerings.

Dude you're trying and failing hard

Doesn't extra have more games for less?

PS- is just that a minus.😂

i can't believe you have the sack to hype up ps plus. Theres nobody here who would do such a thing. I subscribed to ps plus twice (before the new tiers) and it was complete trash. The only good thing was it was cheap...though that makes no difference when I barely touched it in the entire year plus 3 months I owned it. The new tiers just add a few ps4/5 games like spiderman, and demon souls, horizon and stray. But if you have most of those games already, which most ps owners do (plus its FREE in the ps collection for ps5 owners), then ps plus is even more useless.

The big differentiator is day 1 games. But until the acquired studios start releasing games, I’m not sure what this content advantage Game Pass has, is. Game Pass can also be had for a steep discount still, so there’s that too. But judging library vs library, Game Pass Vs the extra and essential PS+ tiers, and I‘d like to see someone argue that Game Pass has better content

@tjandmia:

Day 1 releases.

/thread

I prefer Game Pass myself. 🤷‍♂️

GP is mostly old games.

I think that the only real reason why ps+ extra/premium is even considered is because of the “assumed“ belief amongst a lot of gamers that ps have the more preferable exclusives. With that being said, Sony doesn’t push ps+ extra/premium as hard as Microsoft has been pushing GP.

@goldenelementxl: same! There are no real gamez

Imagine thinking that any of the PS+ tiers are as good as GP..... LOL, that is some funny shit.

@blaznwiipspman1: lol you just admitted Playstation fans still buy games.

I can use GP on my gaming PC and PS+ doesn't offer me a Goddamn thing with no PS5 games, no day 1 release PS5 for PC & again, Sony doesn't have an answer for PC gamers but GP does.

GP + PC = GP is better than PS+👌

If you skipped the ps4 ps plus is better.

If you skipped Xbox one gamepass is better.

All fanboys just got owned lmao J/K

I don't think Game Pass is better than PS Plus. I feel like they are about the same. I use both of them to play indies I might have otherwise missed. Last week I played Inside on Game Pass. This week I'm playing The Last Campire on PS Plus. Neither service is amazing imho. I think if Xbox ever starts actually releasing games, then they will have the edge.

There is a reason they call it IndieStation Plus.

@kvallyx: I'm not seeing gamepass blowing away PSPlus, at all. Gamepad is mostly low budget stuff or AA stuff from 5 years ago. I think you're falling for the hype.

@dabear: they've had no day one releases to write home about since last year. Also Plus has day ones too. Nice try with your BS narrative.

@Sagemode87: Grounded, High On Life, Scorn will be Day 1 this year.

I don't think you want to discuss 2023...

You cows sure are reaching.

The day one thing on gamepass seems like a forever wait for something I wanna play day 1. I canceled mine last month, but had it all year. What tips the scale in favor of gamepass for me was the streaming option for almost every game it seems. Very cool feature that allows you to play on nearly any phone, tablet or PC, even my Chromebook worked. I think both services are better for a month or two use, not a continuous subscription. Runs out of games too soon. I'd say out of 100 games, about 3 interested me. Not into indies much. And still no Forza motorsport on gamepass which is a shame.

No, you're the one reaching by trying to act serious with your little list 😅. You guys said that this year. Let's see how that pans out for you. MS doesn't have the best track record. I'm convinced they've given up on this gen and are just setting up for next gen. Lems will just write off Series like they did Xbox One. Don't understand the White Knight-ing for a brand you can't be proud of today.

All I care about is PS Plus Essential and Xbox Live, only because they're required to play online multiplayer games. I give zero fucks about gaming subscription services.

@Sagemode87: It so funny to me how you cows just act like Christmas 2021 never happened. You know, where there were ZERO PS5 games released (because Horizon, GT, and GoW were all delayed).

You've dug yourself quite a hole. It's going to be so much fun watching you and your fanboy brethren try to get out of it.

You are wrong, and that’s ok.

Even I wouldn't use bait this shit 🤣

Last placestation

"How is PSPlus better than Gamepass?"

Said no one ever. lol :P

"better games" is certainly subjective from either side of the fence..

but objectively, Game Pass receives exponentially more Day One content from both 1st and 3rd party developers/publishers.. that's just a plain fact.. both services offer "old games" but only one of the two has a consistent roadmap of brand new content coming into the service..

and since PlayStation fanboys pretend that they don't want Day One content, I don't see this dynamic changing anytime soon..

GamePass has significantly more day one releases but, PS Plus Extra + EA Access is a very compelling offering too.

That being said, it's honestly just a matter of time until PS Plus gets the exact same 3rd party games day one. If the economics (truly) works for Microsoft then it'll work for PlayStation. I think the biggest difference is that PlayStation just isn't ready to shift huge parts of its business to a subscription model (just yet).

If you want old PS1 games and a library of all Indies, go with PS Plus. If you want a stellar library with AAA games, exclusives and day one first and third party games, Game Pass is your man!

There is a reason that Game Pass has 70% of the subscription global market for gaming.

Regardless of your opinion of it now, I'm intrigued to see how Gamepass looks in 4-6 years when some of their 1st party stuff starts hitting on a semi-regular basis.

That would probably force Sony to be more competitive. Competition is good for us all.

Psplus and game Amazon Luna are more popular and have more subscribers.

Not according to Sony.

https://game-news24.com/2022/08/01/the-xbox-game-pass-contains-almost-70-percent-of-the-global-subscription-market-it-confirms-it-sony/

Sony announced that at the moment, Xbox Game Pass would even count on an inclusive percentage of 60 to 70% of the global gaming market. It’s still the case with Sony, that assessment would be more shocking for Brazil. In fact, the United States’ most significant city would see its subscription market dominated between 70% and 80 percent by Xbox Game Pass.

https://pledgetimes.com/xbox-game-pass-for-sony-holds-70-of-the-global-subscription-services-market/

"In this regard, Sony has pointed out in talks with the Brazilian authorities that the company sees serious competition in the Xbox Game Pass for the classic sale of video games. Especially since Xbox Game Pass has 60 to 70% market share among subscription offerings, according to Sony."

https://xboxera.com/2022/08/01/sony-comments-on-call-of-duty-game-pass-and-more/

Sony also commented on Game Pass, discussing their thoughts on the service and if they think anyone can compete. They say “Over the past five years, Microsoft’s Game Pass has grown to capture approximately 60-70% of the global subscription services market.”

They are then asked what it would take to create a service that could compete with Game Pass, and say “it would take several years for a competitor – even with substantial investments – to create a rival effective for Game Pass.”

Game pass is great for people who prefer to play flops from MS or indie games

They (the media) found the information in the official Brazilian reports which were made official online:

https://sei.cade.gov.br/sei/modulos/pesquisa/md_pesq_processo_exibir.php?1MQnTNkPQ_sX_bghfgNtnzTLgP9Ehbk5UOJvmzyesnbE-Rf6Pd6hBcedDS_xdwMQMK6_PgwPd2GFLljH0OLyFX6gl2sGKAL6BCs1NvfGDcTA25PStaVelgicwm5iRue6

Which were required to be publicly available according to their laws. In the documents Sony said (not Resetera) that over the past five years, Game Pass has grown to capture approximately 60-70% of the global subscription services market. You can even use your built in translator to view the documents. And in those same documents, with quotes from Sony, Sony stated they believe that it would take several years for a competitor – even with substantial investments – to create a rival effective for Game Pass.

So in the link above are the official documents. Sorry I didn't post that link before.

@girlusocrazy said:

@kvallyx: It's ok. I posted that link too, finally I downloaded a PDF of that material, and found that they used this to establish the amount of the market that Game Pass had:

Apparently 25 million subscribers is 60-70% of the "global subscription services market"

Which seems unrealistic. That means that the rest of the market, including Sony is TINY. 🤷‍♂️

That's true. The only things I think of when it comes to "global subscriptions market" is gaming related. So what would be included?

• Xbox Live Silver
• Xbox Live Gold
• PlayStation Network Free
• PlayStation Network Plus
• Xbox Game Pass
• Xbox Game Pass for PC
• PlayStation Plus Extra
• PlayStation Plus Premium
• Nintendo Online
• GeForce Now
• Steam? (would they be/have a subscription)
• EA Play
• Ubisoft Plus?
• WoW Subscriptions

There is so much to consider, it's mind boggling.

Well, that puts a bit more context into it. So they are merely talking about game rental subscriptions, at least that is my take from it.

Digital distribution of games can take two forms: users can buy a digital copy of a game from an online store (such as the Game Store from Xbox, Nintendo's eShop and SIE's PlayStation Store) and do the download on their console, or they can subscribe to a service such as Game Pass from Microsoft, and pay a monthly fee to access a game library.

So that takes out XBL Gold for example.

@girlusocrazy said:

@kvallyx: I also found:

Global Market Shares in Multi-Game Subscriptions

Multi-Game Subscriptions for Console – Global – 2020

Apparently the 60-70% market is referring to the PC market. When they speak of all platforms, suddenly MS drops to 20-30% of the market, and when they talk about console only, MS has 30-40% of the market.

But one interesting thing we see is that PS Now has 0-10% on Console globally, vs 30-40% for MS, but it isn't specified whether that's MS Game Pass or MS Gold+Game Pass. On all platforms Sony has 0-10% and MS has 20-30%.

I don't know Portuguese and I'm just using Google Translate. But maybe the user on Resetera took the 60-70% out of context and they think MS has 60-70% of gaming subscriptions globally out of all platforms.

Anyway, these are Sony's figures, and they could be wrong about the other platforms statistics, or cherry picking.

I also see those as 2020 numbers and we are almost in 2023. And this predates PS Extra/Premium. But from what we are seeing here, Xbox only (not PC), they seem pretty competitive, but with MS trailing. Maybe Sony includes PC because MS has Xbox on PC (I think the Xbox app and Game UI is sold with consumer PCs pre-installed) which Sony could see as an unfair advantage (see old browser monopoly). But that means if PC is included AND it's a game subscription advantage, the only game subscription that MS has on PC is, Game Pass for PC.

Well, in the end, no biggie. But I do find that all interesting.

SW Hat on: I hope the merger goes through.

SW Hat off: I do think it would not be cool if after 6 more years of COD on PlayStation that MS decides to not renew a contract with Sony. Business is business, but to me that would be like taking away the ability to watch Lionsgate movies on your Samsung blu-ray player if Sony bought Lionsgate and prevented any blu-ray player from playing future Lionsgate movies other than Sony blu-ray players.

The consumers don't deserve that. Now, if MS uses their new Activision/Blizzard to create exclusive new IPs, sure I am on board. Same with if Bungie created an all new IP and it was exclusive to PlayStation. Don't take away Destiny from consumers though.

One example that I find would be disturbing. Alan Wake was exclusive to Xbox. If Alan Wake 2 was made exclusive to PlayStation, I don't think that would be a fair move for consumers. Just like Hellblade 2. The original was a PS exclusive, which came over to Xbox at a later date. But now, for a PS consumer to continue the story of Hellblade, they are being forced to spend $500 to buy an Xbox. Just dumb.

SW Hat back on: Thank you Phil!