Like it or not.....the XSX is the better developed machine.

FACT! and this is coming from a Cow.....

Better Specs....

Better looking machine....

Will run cooler.....and overall a smarter designed console.

It's just a better design and a well developed console for next gen. As for the PS5 the console is unnderpowered, huge and not well thought out. I don't think Sony should have hyped or considered the super fast SSD...which just makes the console bulkier and more expensive, it could have been developed better, IMO...they underesitimated Microsoft and don't seem confident in their console in comparison. Thats not to say it isn't good, it is...but just not as good as the XSX.

I think both consoles will be Great.

XSX is a 12 teraflop beast. The PS5 is 9 teraflops overclocked to 10 and supposedly has heating issues.

A lot of people also said Xbox One X is a better developed machine over PS4 Pro too.

As far as i'll say, the 12 TB and 10 TB is not as much as people think anymore. Specs used to be a big thing like 10 years ago but the diminishing returns makes it barely noticeable anymore. It really depends on what people do with it.

That being said, I'll probably see what happens in 2021 and 2022 and make my decisions then. At the end of the day, consumer wins and competition makes it better for companies to learn and improve.

and the PS5 SSD has to be same speed if you want to replace it. i think the ps5 only comes with a 900GB hdd. too small imo.

and if you want to buy a 2TB one to replace it it will cost you 400$ because it requires a top of the line SSD.

"the XSX is the better developed machine" says someone with no actual knowledge of technology nor has seen either in any capacity.

Nothing in your OP indicates why its better to develop for over the PS5. FAIL

I'd wait till it's out before you make that claim.

Cool.

Like it or not, most people in the world buy playstation over xbox and a lot of people prefer their lineup of games

It also looks like a high quality piece of tech. PS5 looks like those fake consoles sold on Aliexpress.

Oh look and old alt making a return, hmmm who does this sound like that currently is making the exact same threads...

Are you really that dumb, the OP is a cow and doesn't post here much, whether he's an alt I don't know, and he's not that I own you guy, geez use your brain once in a while.

@fastnslowww: You think the SSD makes a console bulkier? You realize NVME SSDs are pretty damn small, right?

In fact, they are quite a bit smaller than basically every spinning disk hard drive.

I like that both manufacturers have gone down slightly differing routes this time around and looking to achieve performance in different ways, it's good for consumers. As for the better developed machine, too early to say and things such as sale price will play a factor in that.

Agreed, thats why im going with XSX next gen - i want the best (console) version of games right out of the gate.

dont feel like dealing with another gen of Digital foundry Videos where games run at 1440p on the PS5 and 4k on the X

plus the X will handle Ray tracing better and that will be the real game changer, not a "super fast ssd"

I really appreciate the deep technical analysis there. Thank you.

Lol - thinks the SSD made it bulkier...

Tech savvy people should only be allowed to post.

No, the XSX is the worst developed machine ever. And that is a FACT! A clawless lobster hanging upside down in a fridge, could have designed something better. And that is again just a FACT!

@Random_Matt:

Then close down SW,it’s sales,metacritic and company revenue oriented

HaH

@xantufrog: ....meanwhile It was the disc drive....and the fins....

I think this is I_own_u_forever looks like something he would make lol

na just get a external 4t hardrive and just copy and paste the game you want to play. plus you can play ps4 games off the external hdd.

lol that was funny and that is a FACT!

@fastnslowww:

Cough cough cough excuse me all this dust.

@fastnslowww: I gotta say. You flip-flop harder then Nathandrakeswag.

@NathanDrakeSwag:

Na is a 4.2TF machine OC to 10.28TF notice how it has the same CU as the PS4 pro?

@i_p_daily:

He barely post here and you know he is a cow.

Pathetic dude you will say any shit if you see it can help your case.

OP has upset the Sony fannies. 🤣

OP, you misunderstand the meaning of facts.

@FinalFighters: a 15-20% gap in GPU power is not enough to push a 1440p image to native 4K. We don't really know how well ray-tracing does on either console yet outside of Minecraft and Ratchet and Clank, best wait for Control analysis to make final judgment. As for the OP I think both consoles look fine. The PS5 might be larger than XSX but it will be easier to orient horizontally than the monolith that is XSX.

Tormentos is gonna have a MELTDOWN in this one.

LMAO!!!!!!

Yes, the XSX looks the better mechanical design. Without seeing a teardown of the PS5 I would guess the XSX will be cooler and quieter under full load.

Power difference will be unimportant as it is every gen.

Too bad I don't need to buy one. If it could run my Steam library I'd buy one for the living room.

Thinking about this... I'm not so sure. All the multiplats on PS4 and Xbox One that were compared this gen- PS4 usually had less frame pacing issues and a higher/more consistent framerate. Were the Xbox One versions unplayable? No. But still.

You'd think by now the developers would do whatever it took to make the games look and play their best on each individual platform, but still today I think they're aiming for whichever the more powerful system is and half-assing it on the weaker platform.

I read that a lot over these past few years- PS4 and Xbox One or PS4Pro and Xbox One X are "close enough there isn't much of difference" but that hasn't really been the case I would say.

@drummerdave9099: yea you might be right. But AAA publishers hold all the cards as they probably would support whatever system is gonna sell them the most copies.

NathanDrakeSwag was a huge Sony fanboy and I can confirm that n many that know him.. the jumping wagon is kinda shocking.

Same - I liked that rumor. Would have infinitely improved the value of an XBox for me.

I’m on Team Like It. :P

Doesn't the super fast SSD make the console produce more heat....which then needs the console to be bigger to eliminate console issues. (cooling solution, etc). I could be wrong.

The NVMe M.2 spec allows for up to 7 Watts. That might not seem like a lot, but it will require some sort of heat sink. I design cooling solutions for rugged computers at work and we typically sink everything greater than 1W IF there is no airflow.

If you have air flow over your M.2 you could make the argument either way. As long as you have some sort of metal plate touching the drive through a thermal pad you're going to be fine with or without airflow.

Keep in mind the only time it will even be an issue is during sustained reads and writes. So for a game console this will be while installing, and perhaps when you're loading. Even if you didn't provide any cooling the drive just might throttle a bit. Gaming is not a very storage-intensive workload compared to something like a data center where the drives are going non-stop and require active cooling.

My point is: I doubt the addition of an NVMe drive was a consideration in the form factor of the PS5. I bet there is a thin metal plate inside the PS5 that doubles as a heatsink for the internal SSD, and as shielding for the components. We won't know until Sony provides us with a sweet, sweet teardown of their new machine.

so now you need an external hdd on top of your ps5 if you want a lot of space?

let me remind you of another console you had to do that for....the wiiU

Consoles aren't even out yet, calm down

Read his post history dumb dumb. For someone who's been here for like 100yrs you of all people should already know this dumb dumb lol.

As the librarian of SW you would of had quotes from him if he was anything other than a cow, that's a FACT.

@i_p_daily:

He is an alt just like you who appear out of nowhere and stafted posting like if you have 10 years on the forum.😂

Don't try and change the narrative, he's a cow, he may also be an alt I don't know.

What I do know is that anyone who says anything bad about your godny, you accuse of being alts, I mean you've accused 95% of users on here of being alts, its your go to when you have nothing lol.

@Pedro: I don’t think that was his claim. Shouldn’t that be a fail by you?