Last of us 2 sales drop 80% in second week in the UK.

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Poll Last of us 2 sales drop 80% in second week in the UK. (63 votes)

It will be the best selling PS4 exclusive of all time 32%
It started strong but It wont take the top spot. I expect it to finish somewhere in the top 3 35%
All sales were front loaded it won't crack the top 5 38%

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spieltimes.com/news/the-last-of-us-part-ii-sales-dropped-80-week-on-week-uk/%3famp

This is only the UK but the UK does a pretty good job representing how these types of games sell in the west.

It was the fastest selling PS4 exclusive in its first three days selling 4 million copies but has dropped much faster then usual. For an example Spiderman only saw a 42% drop in sales.

Do you think the game will end up the best selling PS4 exclusive? Or did the deceptive marketing allow most the sales to be front loaded more then usual.

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#101 mrbojangles25
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@wervenom said:
@zaryia said:

No shit, it's a movie game. These don't have legs in either sales or player retention. You literally beat them in 2 sittings, and it's mostly brain-dead "gameplay".

Furthermore it is one of the lowest user reviews in history. No actual gamer likes it.

God of War and Spiderman both had legs. Although I'm not sure if you classify those as movie games.

Stealth and TPS gameplay is actually really good but the story seemed to have rubbed people the wrong way.

Spiderman was open-world, as was God of War to a lesser extent. That gives them "legs". I wouldn't classify either of them as movie games; cut-scenes do not automatically make a game a movie game, imo.

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#102 Pedro
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@SolidGame_basic said:

This game is incredible. Haters gone hate!

Your peeps are turning against their master.😅

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#103 ConanTheStoner
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@lundy86_4 said:

I asked this of tormentos, but got no response... What about the multiple 10 scores on June 19th?

Yup, it's all a shit show no matter the angle. Especially so when it comes to big name exclusives.

I do see value in user review systems that are verified purchases with details like overall play time.

Putting stock in Metacritic user scores is a joke tho, especially so with day 1 scores.

I can understand the argument that there is no possible way the game deserves a 0/10 lol. But yeah, the overwhelming majority of those scores are going to be baseless either way.

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#104 lundy86_4  Online
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@lundy86_4 said:

I asked this of tormentos, but got no response... What about the multiple 10 scores on June 19th?

Yup, it's all a shit show no matter the angle. Especially so when it comes to big name exclusives.

I do see value in user review systems that are verified purchases with details like overall play time.

Putting stock in Metacritic user scores is a joke tho, especially so with day 1 scores.

I can understand the argument that there is no possible way the game deserves a 0/10 lol. But yeah, the overwhelming majority of those scores are going to be baseless either way.

Straight-up. There's embellishment on both sides, and it's just dumb. Verified purchases with play-time is a decent way to gauge the game.

No game deserves a zero unless broken-as-shit... TLoU2 isn't broken, it's just divided. After P4G, it's my next game... Sat on my counter in plastic.

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#105 ConanTheStoner
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@lundy86_4:

Yeah hope you enjoy it man. Supposedly the best gameplay in a modern ND game, so at least there's that lol.

I almost scooped it this weekend, all the drama got me interested. But then I'm like shit, want to replay the first one before going in. Just don't have time for that now, maybe eventually.

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#106 ocinom
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Still Sold Millions, Still made a huge profit for Sony. We get it that there are many white fragile males here at SW but this is sad and pathetic to be honest.

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#107 WeRVenom
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@wervenom said:

Did you see Abby in any of the marketing? If they were so confident in their product why did they make you think it was a revenge story featuring Joel and Ellie( even adding Joel to trailers to make him appear in parts of the game hes not in).

Why am I forced to play half the game with a character that I ( nor most people) don't give a shit about. How of a sudden is a guy who survived the apocalypse for 25 years turn into someone who completely let's his guard down in front of 8 complete strangers. He was used as a cheap plot device for revenge and used in a shitty way at that. It's a little more then " but I hate teh women". !

They didn't want to reveal all their cards in the marketing. Too much of modern media tells you everything they're doing up front. People wanted this game to simply be another Joel/Ellie adventure? We did that once. Since we're in spoiler territory. He didn't just let his guard down, he helped a person out of a bad situation he thought he could trust. When it turns out he was prey. The events of the last game caught up to him so he really shouldn't be surprised by the retribution. Hell, he only survived in the last game due to Ellie's help. So he was never this invincible bad ass anyway.

Instead of being just another revenge tale, the story is looked at from two sides. Neither right, nor wrong. It's people letting revenge cloud their judgement. Abby lost her friends by involving them. Ellie repeatedly tempted fate by going after her eventually leaving her alone and disfigured. These aren't franchise characters, they're tragic figures in an apocalypse. This really should be a series where no one should be too attached to any one character since the stakes are so high.

It's one thing to reveal your cards it's another to just straight up lie.

I never said Joel was an invincible bad ass although he would certainly qualify as a bad ass. Nobody in TloU is invincible but Abby killed him in the most chicken shit way possible after he saved her ass twice!

Now if you want to argue they could do this walking dead style and follow different people that's one thing. But Neil Druckman acted as if he had no interest in that.

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#108  Edited By warmblur
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@Sevenizz said:

Get woke, go broke. Looks good on em’.

They sold more then 4 million copies.

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#109 VFighter
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@lundy86_4: If they were before the game came out they were BS also. But I'm guessing ( I'm not gonna take the time to count) the amount of 10s before the game releases is nothing compared to the amoint of zeros review bombers are giving it. That and I'd imagine the 10s happen for most hyped games regardless of platform (if reviews are allowed before release).

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#110 I_P_Daily
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@hardwenzen said:

@i_p_daily: I can tell my facts are melting you, and you're displeased.

The only one melting is you, as it was you who replied to my initial comment, and has been melting ever since, those are the facts lol.

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@ocinom said:

Still Sold Millions, Still made a huge profit for Sony. We get it that there are many white fragile males here at SW but this is sad and pathetic to be honest.

What does race have to do with it? It honestly sounds like the mother ship beams down comments for you NPC's to repeat over and over again.

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#112 WeRVenom
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@warmblur said:
@Sevenizz said:

Get woke, go broke. Looks good on em’.

They sold more then 4 million copies.

By lying their ass off.

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#113 ocinom
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@wervenom said:
@ocinom said:

Still Sold Millions, Still made a huge profit for Sony. We get it that there are many white fragile males here at SW but this is sad and pathetic to be honest.

What does race have to do with it? It honestly sounds like the mother ship beams down comments for you NPC's to repeat over and over again.

Another one

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#114 GoldenElementXL  Online
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@wervenom: Did you play MGS 2 or Halo 2? If you feel betrayed by the marketing of TLOU2, that's on you at this point...

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#115 jaydan
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@wervenom: Did you play MGS 2 or Halo 2? If you feel betrayed by the marketing of TLOU2, that's on you at this point...

I can agree with this. I mean, I'm surprised people are insisting they want major plot twists in the marketing material to spoil the game.

Usually it works the other way around and people don't want to be spoiled with major plot twists in the marketing.

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#116 xantufrog  Moderator
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Haven't even played it yet and I'm sick of it from all the butthurt.

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#117 hardwenzen  Online
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@i_p_daily said:
@hardwenzen said:

@i_p_daily: I can tell my facts are melting you, and you're displeased.

The only one melting is you, as it was you who replied to my initial comment, and has been melting ever since, those are the facts lol.

You have been destroyed, and it was very easy.

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#118 hardwenzen  Online
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Haven't even played it yet and I'm sick of it from all the butthurt.

Here to stay for a while. People are fragile.

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#119 nepu7supastar7
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@wervenom:

His death was believable though. And you can't say she woman-handled him and beat him to a pulp. It was literally made so that he had no chance to do anything. It might've looked cowardly but it wasn't meant to look like anything. Just revenge.

And in a story sense, it all came to full circle, didn't it? This is all from the bad choices he made in the past. And no matter how you look at it, it WAS a mistake. He basically abandoned his entire job just for this one little girl and we were supposed to believe that it was just because she grew on him. That wasn't exactly ideal either. Especially when he made his case that he was a loner who no longer had faith in people.

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#120  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@hardwenzen: I was hoping the brief sputters of CP2077 hype would distract us, but I think we've a few months before that palate cleanser kicks in

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#121 Random_Matt
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And yet still number one with the original remastered coming back. Doesn't say much about the rest if it can drop 80% and still retain it's position.

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@hardwenzen said:
@i_p_daily said:
@hardwenzen said:

@i_p_daily: I can tell my facts are melting you, and you're displeased.

The only one melting is you, as it was you who replied to my initial comment, and has been melting ever since, those are the facts lol.

I have been destroyed, and it was very easy.

Well to be fair your butthurt does it to you all the time lol.

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@i_p_daily said:
@hardwenzen said:
@i_p_daily said:
@hardwenzen said:

@i_p_daily: I can tell my facts are melting you, and you're displeased.

The only one melting is you, as it was you who replied to my initial comment, and has been melting ever since, those are the facts lol.

I have been destroyed, and it was very easy.

Well to be fair your butthurt does it to you all the time lol.

I'm butthurt that XSX won't give much competition to the PS5 😢

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#124  Edited By rmpumper
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Why would anyone buy a new copy at this point when people are selling their used copies already? It's not like the game has replay value.

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#125 VFighter
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@rmpumper: No replay value? I played through the first 4 times, where are you getting there's no replay value?

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#126  Edited By I_P_Daily
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@vfighter said:

@rmpumper: No replay value? I played through the first 4 times, where are you getting there's no replay value?

What a load of bs, why would anyone play through it 4 times, did you blink through some of the cutscenes LOL.

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@hardwenzen said:
@i_p_daily said:
@hardwenzen said:
@i_p_daily said:
@hardwenzen said:

@i_p_daily: I can tell my facts are melting you, and you're displeased.

The only one melting is you, as it was you who replied to my initial comment, and has been melting ever since, those are the facts lol.

I have been destroyed, and it was very easy.

Well to be fair your butthurt does it to you all the time lol.

I'm butthurt

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Neil Druckmann did an interview with Greg Miller, Troy baker, and Ashley Johnson. They went into a lot of detail about why they did some scenes the way they did. Definitely worth a watch.

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:P

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#130 Sevenizz
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STAND BACK - BOMB INCOMING!!!

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#131 BenjaminBanklin
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@i_p_daily said:

What a load of bs, why would anyone play through it 4 times, did you blink through some of the cutscenes LOL.

I'm sure you've played through those boring ass racers you love more than once. Look at you trying to give people shit over games people actually buy and play.

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@i_p_daily said:
@vfighter said:

@rmpumper: No replay value? I played through the first 4 times, where are you getting there's no replay value?

What a load of bs, why would anyone play through it 4 times, did you blink through some of the cutscenes LOL.

C'mon be reasonable. Some people also watch movies multiple times in the cinema.

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@i_p_daily said:
@hardwenzen said:
@i_p_daily said:
@hardwenzen said:
@i_p_daily said:

The only one melting is you, as it was you who replied to my initial comment, and has been melting ever since, those are the facts lol.

I have been destroyed, and it was very easy.

Well to be fair your butthurt does it to you all the time lol.

I'm butthurt

Stop melting 🤔

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#134  Edited By WeRVenom
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@goldenelementxl said:

@wervenom: Did you play MGS 2 or Halo 2? If you feel betrayed by the marketing of TLOU2, that's on you at this point...

I don't recall either of those games altering scenes in trailers though. That's the shit I have a problem with.

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#135 WeRVenom
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@ocinom said:
@wervenom said:
@ocinom said:

Still Sold Millions, Still made a huge profit for Sony. We get it that there are many white fragile males here at SW but this is sad and pathetic to be honest.

What does race have to do with it? It honestly sounds like the mother ship beams down comments for you NPC's to repeat over and over again.

Another one

Go cry about some more statues.

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#136 Pedro
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@wervenom said:

Go cry about some more statues.

Says the person who is crying about the success for this game. 🤣

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#137  Edited By WeRVenom
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@nepu7supastar7 said:

@wervenom:

His death was believable though. And you can't say she woman-handled him and beat him to a pulp. It was literally made so that he had no chance to do anything. It might've looked cowardly but it wasn't meant to look like anything. Just revenge.

And in a story sense, it all came to full circle, didn't it? This is all from the bad choices he made in the past. And no matter how you look at it, it WAS a mistake. He basically abandoned his entire job just for this one little girl and we were supposed to believe that it was just because she grew on him. That wasn't exactly ideal either. Especially when he made his case that he was a loner who no longer had faith in people.

I mean the world is grounded in reality. I do think Neil wants you to sympathize with Abby and although I understand her motivations I still hate every character in her group. Even after playing her side of the story. Maybe that's just me but I doubt it.

Maybe what he did was a mistake but what he did was completely relatable to me. I guess that's why I found him to be such a likeable character.

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@Nonstop-Madness said:

This isn't entirely unexpected.

Ex. God of War sold 3.1M in 3 days and, only hit 5M after 31 days. It ended up selling over 10M.

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We'll have to wait and see how well the game sells over the holidays.

This

The game will get another sales boom around the holidays. Especially since it will probably be $30-$40 at that point

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#139  Edited By WeRVenom
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@Pedro said:
@wervenom said:

Go cry about some more statues.

Says the person who is crying about the success for this game. 🤣

Having a discussion isn't crying. Mentioning that it dropped 80% the second week after you were celebrating its record breaking success and then watching your meltdowns is crying.

I own the game and overall I enjoyed it despite it's bad narrative decisions. It's still a high quality product rarely seen in gaming.

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#140  Edited By jaydan
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@wervenom said:
@goldenelementxl said:

@wervenom: Did you play MGS 2 or Halo 2? If you feel betrayed by the marketing of TLOU2, that's on you at this point...

I don't recall either of those games altering scenes in trailers though. That's the shit I have a problem with.

You know, Disney does the same thing, particularly with the Marvel movies.

I remember the trailer for Avengers Infinity War had the Hulk prominently displayed during the climactic battle on Wakanda. During the actual movie, though, we know Hulk gets his ass thrown down within the first five minutes of the movie by Thanos and the rest of the movie it's all Bruce Banner.

I'm aware of this kind of trailer meddling, but I'm really not sure what to think of it. I think for Disney's defense, they know Marvel fans cross-examine EVERYTHING and that can spoil the fun and the surprise.

Do you think that is to some extent why they did that for TLoU2?

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#141 BenjaminBanklin
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@wervenom said:

Go cry about some more statues.

Welp, we know what kind of person you are.

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#142  Edited By jaydan
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@wervenom said:
@ocinom said:
@wervenom said:
@ocinom said:

Still Sold Millions, Still made a huge profit for Sony. We get it that there are many white fragile males here at SW but this is sad and pathetic to be honest.

What does race have to do with it? It honestly sounds like the mother ship beams down comments for you NPC's to repeat over and over again.

Another one

Go cry about some more statues.

Wtf?? That's very insensitive and disregarding to every emotion we see over social injustice.... over a video game?

Take that shit to political gamer's off Gamespot and go somewhere else.

I don't care what some SJW does that gives you a hard time, that is not an excuse for bigotry.

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#144  Edited By Pedro
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@wervenom said:

Having a discussion isn't crying. Mentioning that it dropped 80% the second week after you were celebrating its record breaking success and then watching your meltdowns is crying.

I own the game and overall I enjoyed it despite it's bad narrative decisions. It's still a high quality product rarely seen in gaming.

You reveal yourself and now everyone know what type of person you are. You have been self owned. 😎

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#145  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@jaydan: here's the thing that ban dodgers don't get: we actually don't want users to leave. If they were to come back and follow the community code of conduct like good angels - who cares? This place is full of alts trying to feed their addiction. But what many actually do is come back and behave the same way that got them banned before. Which is not a sustainable strategy.

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#146  Edited By DaVillain-  Moderator  Online
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@xantufrog: Similar how I handle the situation in this thread few days ago. Link: https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/why-are-sony-games-so-successful-33498264/

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@xantufrog said:

@jaydan: here's the thing that ban dodgers don't get: we actually don't want users to leave. If they were to come back and follow the community code of conduct like good angels - who cares? This place is full of alts trying to feed their addiction. But what many actually do is come back and behave the same way that got them banned before. Which is not a sustainable strategy.

Thing is: there should be zero tolerance for certain behaviors. In this case, TC had to make a racially insensitive comment over video game banter. That's fucking gross.

Sure Gamespot let's trolls have their day but for the most part trolling is just petty nerd engagement. There's gotta be a fine line somewhere when we see the true colors of individuals turn for the nasty.

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#148 xantufrog  Moderator
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@jaydan: there is a line. We don't share others' moderation details, but we certainly have no tolerance for racist and hate speech remarks.

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#149 ZmanBarzel
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Considering a) "Uncharted 4" dropped 78 percent on this same chart in its second week in 2016; b) that this chart is counting only physical sales; and c) the changes in "physical vs. digital" in just these last four years, Sony has to be absolutely giddy with TLoU2's performance.

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#150 jcafcwbb
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Reading back Abby was used in one of the trailers for the game - I think it was an E3 one.

Abby knew who Joel was before they got to the Wolves' hideout as Tommy introduced them when they were in the building before they got their hideout. Abby knew who he was. As they had to go to the hideout to escape the hoard he was dead as soon as he entered it, There was no way he was escaping.

It intrigues me that people think he died because of giving his name in their hideout - did they actually play the game?

If it sold the reported 4 million in the first week then a 80% drop is still 800,000 - not bad for the second week. Better than most games first week.