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#1 ionusX
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over at yonder parliment in the UK keith vaz tabled a motion to ban the possession and sale of activisions latest dose of CoD to its daylight deprived hyper addicated purchasing base. he got 9 votes for and then the rest gangbusted it and one of his supporters suggested an amendment to give it a special case rating of A regardless of pegi or ESRB rating board findings.

http://www.destructoid.com/keith-vaz-wants-to-ban-call-of-duty-3--216374.phtml

while nothing to really care over the fact that anyone bothers drags the future of CoD really selling (or being allowed to sell) in a uk market is definetely in question. first none, now nine, next you will be seeing 18 at that rate by cod 20 or so the entire house would want it outlawed

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EA failed again

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#3 ionusX
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EA failed again

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well this certainly doesnt look good.. i mean while nothing to really care about in the future may see a UK without it and as things tend to go the UK's say is often what canada and australia follow suit on cause ya know its "hip" to think like the former motherland which actually id be for. im not railing against CoD but thats what they should get till the fix the problems with cod's horrible PC version..

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Keith Vaz is a plank of an MP.

Not the first time he's tried this, even the press have a good laugh at him and his stupidity on top of that one of the biggest abusers of the expenses system he's a hack of an MP that labour needs to get rid of cause of his bonafide stupidity and general idiocy in wasting our tax paying money on a massive flat in London.

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EA failed again

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What does this have to do with EA?
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He hasn't actually called for the game to be banned, the exact words from the EDM are -"and calls on the British Board of Film Classification to take further precautions when allowing a game to be sold". I'm not sticking up for someone who clearly has not done their research on the game before criticising it, but further precautions does not mean banned.

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He hasn't actually called for the game to be banned, the exact words from the EDM are -"and calls on the British Board of Film Classification to take further precautions when allowing a game to be sold". I'm not sticking up for someone who clearly has not done their research on the game before criticising it, but further precautions does not mean banned.

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this was after the ammendment if you read more carefully. the origional centext called for an end to sales

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Keith Vaz doesn't care about Battlefield.

He goes after the biggest game of all time.

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Keith Vaz doesn't care about Battlefield.

He goes after the biggest game of all time.

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because BF doesn't attract hordes of underage people like COD.

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I wouldn't worry about it, there's always a few screwballs willing to support regressive and irrational ideas, and this is no different.

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#11 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="landofcookies"]

Keith Vaz doesn't care about Battlefield.

He goes after the biggest game of all time.

super600

because BF doesn't attract hordes of underage people like COD.

people wont listen to Keith Vaz anyway, he just looks for a way to keep in the limelight with attacking games no point in giving the idiot any time tbh.

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[QUOTE="pav50"]

He hasn't actually called for the game to be banned, the exact words from the EDM are -"and calls on the British Board of Film Classification to take further precautions when allowing a game to be sold". I'm not sticking up for someone who clearly has not done their research on the game before criticising it, but further precautions does not mean banned.

ionusX

this was after the ammendment if you read more carefully. the origional centext called for an end to sales

Really? Thats surprisingly stupid, even for an MP

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="landofcookies"]

Keith Vaz doesn't care about Battlefield.

He goes after the biggest game of all time.

razgriz_101

because BF doesn't attract hordes of underage people like COD.

people wont listen to Keith Vaz anyway, he just looks for a way to keep in the limelight with attacking games no point in giving the idiot any time tbh.

He's the Jack Thompson of the UK!
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

because BF doesn't attract hordes of underage people like COD.

Slashless

people wont listen to Keith Vaz anyway, he just looks for a way to keep in the limelight with attacking games no point in giving the idiot any time tbh.

He's the Jack Thompson of the UK!

he is and he isnt tbh i hate hi guts for using tax payers money to pay for his mortgage and attacking games aswell as being a complete and utter mindless berk.

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It's pretty ridiculous that the BBFC can refuse films/games classification, if it is some extreme movie like a serbian movie then they should introduce a new rating of 18R so that the person buying it knows it will be a pretty extreme game/movie.

BBFC ratings or any ratings board in the world should be used only as a guideline, so that parents don't buy an 18 film for their 10 year old, they shouldn't be able to refuse classification it should be left up to the adult to decide. This guy should just stay away from games if he doesn't like them, we don't want another video nasty type nonsense again.

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what you don't know is this actually passed but dr. who fixed the whole thing later.

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It's pretty ridiculous that the BBFC can refuse films/games classification, if it is some extreme movie like a serbian movie then they should introduce a new rating of 18R so that the person buying it knows it will be a pretty extreme game/movie.

BBFC ratings or any ratings board in the world should be used only as a guideline, so that parents don't buy an 18 film for their 10 year old, they shouldn't be able to refuse classification it should be left up to the adult to decide. This guy should just stay away from games if he doesn't like them, we don't want another video nasty type nonsense again.

APiranhaAteMyVa

BBFC is one of the fairest ones in the world theres been very very few games/movies rejected from classification over the past few years and usually for good reasoning or politcal/social pressure from the public/media.

Theres nothing wrong with the BBFC any British person will tell you that any ratings board can refuse classification if they wish bit like the AO rating is a kiss of death if your in America.

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[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"]

It's pretty ridiculous that the BBFC can refuse films/games classification, if it is some extreme movie like a serbian movie then they should introduce a new rating of 18R so that the person buying it knows it will be a pretty extreme game/movie.

BBFC ratings or any ratings board in the world should be used only as a guideline, so that parents don't buy an 18 film for their 10 year old, they shouldn't be able to refuse classification it should be left up to the adult to decide. This guy should just stay away from games if he doesn't like them, we don't want another video nasty type nonsense again.

razgriz_101

BBFC is one of the fairest ones in the world theres been very very few games/movies rejected from classification over the past few years and usually for good reasoning or politcal/social pressure from the public/media.

Theres nothing wrong with the BBFC any British person will tell you that any ratings board can refuse classification if they wish bit like the AO rating is a kiss of death if your in America.

I just checked they've banned Carmaggedon (later unbanned it), manhunt 2 (modified version released) and the Punisher (edited). Not terrible, but still I think 3 games too many. They are pretty lenient, most films they banned have been unbanned, the only recent examples are human centipede 2 ( the first one sucked) and a film called grotesque which I've never heard of.
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#19 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"]

It's pretty ridiculous that the BBFC can refuse films/games classification, if it is some extreme movie like a serbian movie then they should introduce a new rating of 18R so that the person buying it knows it will be a pretty extreme game/movie.

BBFC ratings or any ratings board in the world should be used only as a guideline, so that parents don't buy an 18 film for their 10 year old, they shouldn't be able to refuse classification it should be left up to the adult to decide. This guy should just stay away from games if he doesn't like them, we don't want another video nasty type nonsense again.

APiranhaAteMyVa

BBFC is one of the fairest ones in the world theres been very very few games/movies rejected from classification over the past few years and usually for good reasoning or politcal/social pressure from the public/media.

Theres nothing wrong with the BBFC any British person will tell you that any ratings board can refuse classification if they wish bit like the AO rating is a kiss of death if your in America.

I just checked they've banned Carmaggedon (later unbanned it), manhunt 2 (modified version released) and the Punisher (edited). Not terrible, but still I think 3 games too many. They are pretty lenient, most films they banned have been unbanned, the only recent examples are human centipede 2 ( the first one sucked) and a film called grotesque which I've never heard of.

Grotesque and THC2 were both banned under the fact they both had lacking narrative in relation to the flat out violence thus refused classification.If they had narrative then they would probably have been classified 18 like Hostel and the rest of it.

Carmageddon and Manhunt 2 stemmed from social/political pressure and the Punisher was a casualty around the time of the manhunt 1 scandal in the UK.

BBFC do a perfectly fine job rating games and usually pretty fair bout it.

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[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

BBFC is one of the fairest ones in the world theres been very very few games/movies rejected from classification over the past few years and usually for good reasoning or politcal/social pressure from the public/media.

Theres nothing wrong with the BBFC any British person will tell you that any ratings board can refuse classification if they wish bit like the AO rating is a kiss of death if your in America.

razgriz_101

I just checked they've banned Carmaggedon (later unbanned it), manhunt 2 (modified version released) and the Punisher (edited). Not terrible, but still I think 3 games too many. They are pretty lenient, most films they banned have been unbanned, the only recent examples are human centipede 2 ( the first one sucked) and a film called grotesque which I've never heard of.

Grotesque and THC2 were both banned under the fact they both had lacking narrative in relation to the flat out violence thus refused classification.If they had narrative then they would probably have been classified 18 like Hostel and the rest of it.

Carmageddon and Manhunt 2 stemmed from social/political pressure and the Punisher was a casualty around the time of the manhunt 1 scandal in the UK.

BBFC do a perfectly fine job rating games and usually pretty fair bout it.

But what gives someone else the right to deny responsible adults legitimate means of entertaining themselves?

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#21 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"] I just checked they've banned Carmaggedon (later unbanned it), manhunt 2 (modified version released) and the Punisher (edited). Not terrible, but still I think 3 games too many. They are pretty lenient, most films they banned have been unbanned, the only recent examples are human centipede 2 ( the first one sucked) and a film called grotesque which I've never heard of.stvee101

Grotesque and THC2 were both banned under the fact they both had lacking narrative in relation to the flat out violence thus refused classification.If they had narrative then they would probably have been classified 18 like Hostel and the rest of it.

Carmageddon and Manhunt 2 stemmed from social/political pressure and the Punisher was a casualty around the time of the manhunt 1 scandal in the UK.

BBFC do a perfectly fine job rating games and usually pretty fair bout it.

But what gives someone else the right to deny responsible adults legitimate means of entertaining themselves?

the two films in question fell under a legislation called the obscene publications act and more than likely indirectly affected Manhunt 2 aswell.

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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Grotesque and THC2 were both banned under the fact they both had lacking narrative in relation to the flat out violence thus refused classification.If they had narrative then they would probably have been classified 18 like Hostel and the rest of it.

Carmageddon and Manhunt 2 stemmed from social/political pressure and the Punisher was a casualty around the time of the manhunt 1 scandal in the UK.

BBFC do a perfectly fine job rating games and usually pretty fair bout it.

razgriz_101

But what gives someone else the right to deny responsible adults legitimate means of entertaining themselves?

the two films in question fell under a legislation called the obscene publications act and more than likely indirectly affected Manhunt 2 aswell.

Eh ok,but that didn't really answer my question.

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#23 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="stvee101"]But what gives someone else the right to deny responsible adults legitimate means of entertaining themselves?

stvee101

the two films in question fell under a legislation called the obscene publications act and more than likely indirectly affected Manhunt 2 aswell.

Eh ok,but that didn't really answer my question.

how does it not? it fell under legislation that is deemed unfit for public consumption, sure its easy to circumvent the BBFC these days anyway.Besides HC2 was unbanned last month aswell it got a few scenes cut including a rape and the murder of a baby which tbh is fair.

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I've decided to Wikipedia him just to get some background information about him.

"Alternative medicine

He is a supporter of homeopathy, having signed several early day motions in support of its continued funding on the National Health Service sponsored by David Tredinnick."

Oh look, it's me not giving a toss about his opinions.

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Vesica the part bout his expenses shows how much he really cares for his own voters and the fact he's been basically impeached from parliament aswell speak volumes bout his overall credibility in general :P

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Vesica the part bout his expenses shows how much he really cares for his own voters and the fact he's been basically impeached from parliament aswell speak volumes bout his overall credibility in general :P

razgriz_101

Oh wow, and I thought here in Australia our politicians were a bunch of crooks :P. I feel sorry for you Brits out there.

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#27 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Vesica the part bout his expenses shows how much he really cares for his own voters and the fact he's been basically impeached from parliament aswell speak volumes bout his overall credibility in general :P

Vesica_Prime

Oh wow, and I thought here in Australia our politicians were a bunch of crooks :P. I feel sorry for you Brits out there.

He's just a relic that needs thrown out and curb stomped.He's a complete pillock to put it lightly, he tried to ban Counter Strike last year,Bully bout 3 years ago and GTA on multiple occasions.

The man boils my blood cause he just bandwagoned a certain scandal and has been riding it ever since with little evidence to support his weak arguements.

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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Vesica the part bout his expenses shows how much he really cares for his own voters and the fact he's been basically impeached from parliament aswell speak volumes bout his overall credibility in general :P

Vesica_Prime

Oh wow, and I thought here in Australia our politicians were a bunch of crooks :P. I feel sorry for you Brits out there.

Read up about our great expenses scandals! MP tried to build a bloody moat round his house with taxpayers money :P
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He's just a relic that needs thrown out and curb stomped.He's a complete pillock to put it lightly, he tried to ban Counter Strike last year,Bully bout 3 years ago and GTA on multiple occasions.

The man boils my blood cause he just bandwagoned a certain scandal and has been riding it ever since with little evidence to support his weak arguements.

razgriz_101

Yeah it's all idiotic people and making noise until they get in power. That's when it becomes worry-some.

Read up about our great expenses scandals! MP tried to build a bloody moat round his house with taxpayers money :PRavensmash

A moat. Are you serious?!

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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

He's just a relic that needs thrown out and curb stomped.He's a complete pillock to put it lightly, he tried to ban Counter Strike last year,Bully bout 3 years ago and GTA on multiple occasions.

The man boils my blood cause he just bandwagoned a certain scandal and has been riding it ever since with little evidence to support his weak arguements.

Vesica_Prime

Yeah it's all idiotic people and making noise until they get in power. That's when it becomes worry-some.

Read up about our great expenses scandals! MP tried to build a bloody moat round his house with taxpayers money :PRavensmash

A moat. Are you serious?!

nope its all serious buisness, and they had the cheek to cut budgets on things which were more important like the NHS.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5310069/MPs-expenses-Clearing-the-moat-at-Douglas-Hoggs-manor.html

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nope its all serious buisness, and they had the cheek to cut budgets on things which were more important like the NHS.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5310069/MPs-expenses-Clearing-the-moat-at-Douglas-Hoggs-manor.html

razgriz_101

How this is stuff even legal? If anyone embezzled money here they'd face a decent prison sentence as well as a fine. :S

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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

nope its all serious buisness, and they had the cheek to cut budgets on things which were more important like the NHS.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5310069/MPs-expenses-Clearing-the-moat-at-Douglas-Hoggs-manor.html

Vesica_Prime

How this is stuff even legal? If anyone embezzled money here they'd face a decent prison sentence as well as a fine. :S

It's not legal, there were repercussions for those found guilty of abusing expenses.
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Who the hell is Keith Vaz and why does he not have anything better to do with his life?

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lol.... call of duty > Keith whoever he is
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Who the hell is Keith Vaz and why does he not have anything better to do with his life?

SPYDER0416

he's an MP thats clung to a all video games with violence are bad since some idiotic kid took Manhunt a bit too seriously a while back.

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#36 delta3074
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it's abuse of power, a lot of that going on with this goverment lately,just because he doesn't like the game he tried to ruin it for everyone else, i can think of plenty of other games as violent and as controversial as MW but he never tables a motion against them, the problem with this goverment is that they are all like spoilt little children, dickens would have been proud of this lot.
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I am from the UK and have never even heard of this idiot. who gives a f*** sts106mat

you no remeber this guy? :P

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4380020.stm

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#40 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]I am from the UK and have never even heard of this idiot. who gives a f*** sts106mat

you no remeber this guy? :P

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4380020.stm

not really LOL, i tend to ignore it all.. politicians are so out of touch with reality, look just before the last election when tried to make david cameron look cool by using twitter and stuff.

Dont even start me on Maggie Thatcher minus the handbag.

My mates works on the bin motor and they are striking on Wedensday next week due to cuts, so i can see this being well...hellish.

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#41 scoots9
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I might be able to get behind that. Banning a game goes totally against my beliefs, but I really don't like CoD.:P