Just Cause 4, disgusting, disgusting flop. (Disgusting)

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#1 Edited by uninspiredcup (29186 posts) -

I guess you're better just booting up Just Cause 2, which is 1/5 the price and doesn't have day-1 DLC the price of the base game.

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/just-cause-4-review-mildly-wild-ride/1900-6417049/

What's another oppressive dictatorship to series protagonist Rico Rodriguez? Not much. He does encounter a new kind of enemy in Just Cause 4, however: extreme weather. It's the common thread that runs through both the story and new mechanics and tops off the explosive spectacle the series is known for. And alongside new gadgets to send objects (and people) flying across the world, Just Cause has become a physics playground. Unfortunately, there just aren't enough opportunities to put these features to good use; underwhelming mission structure and a world slim on enticing activities makes Just Cause 4 a short-lived blast with untapped potential.

The best and most prevalent piece of Just Cause games is at the forefront once again. An exceptional traversal system lets you propel Rico across the beautiful landscapes of Solis and effortlessly soar through the skies. With the combo of a grappling hook, parachute, and wingsuit, Rico can basically go wherever, whenever (and often more efficiently) without a vehicle. Like past games, you build momentum and essentially catapult yourself using the combination of these tools and hardly ever have to touch the ground. It's tough to overstate how satisfying it is to escape enemy hordes and hook onto the underside of a helicopter to hijack it and tear them all down, or slingshot yourself out of harm's way toward the next target you'll blow to bits.

Rico isn't only built to move fast, however: if you aren't causing explosions on a regular basis, you might be doing something wrong. Fuel tanks, red barrels, and vehicles are unusually explosive, and set the stage for over-the-top action. Since the grappling hook can also be used to tether objects together, you have lots of opportunities to get creative outside of exhausting your arsenal of firearms--some of which have their own wacky practical applications, like the wind cannon or lightning gun. Some weapons just wreak havoc such as the railgun or burst-fire rocket launcher, and even modest small arms like the SMG have impactful alternate fire modes. This may be the expectation for Just Cause, but it still pulls you in for a wild ride.

Its identity as a destructive playground is further emphasized by grappling hook mods, three of which you customize: air lifter, retractor, and boosters. All three devices coincide with the new physics engine. Air lifters (essentially mini hot air balloons) let you launch things into the sky, and they can be further customized in terms of velocity, behavior, and altitude. Retractors pull targets together violently, and boosters work like jet engines that'll send objects into a speeding frenzy, whether it be an attack helicopter or a poor enemy soldier. Multiple permutations of these contraptions are made possible, since their effects can be stacked into a single tether and three loadout settings let you switch between loadouts on the fly. These gadgets are unlocked through side activities, and you're given plenty of avenues to make them work as you desire, which leads to the most disappointing part. Just Cause 4 gives you so many shiny new toys to play with but seldom a reason to use them.

Mission structure is uninspired, as you are continually asked to escort NPCs, defend a specific object for a set duration, activate (or destroy) inconspicuous generators, or hit a number of console panels to activate some sort of process. The worst offender has to be the timed missions that ask you to sink bomb-rigged vehicles into the ocean; they're tedious and prone to mishaps at no fault of your own. These are tied to Region Strikes, which are required to unlock territories on the map and progress to main story missions. While blasting through waves of enemies and their military-grade vehicles offers some great moments, you're often asking yourself: okay, what else? Shielded heavies, snipers perched from a mile away, and flocks of attack helicopters can become enjoyably overwhelming, since you have to rapidly make use of your diverse toolset. But several missions are designed in such a way that's oddly restricting, limiting the game's strongest assets. Enemies simply swarm and act as basic obstacles rather than clever challenges, and that leaves you with objectives that rarely bring out the best in the mechanics and systems of Just Cause 4.

At a time when open-world games sometimes overstay their welcome, Just Cause 4 is at the other end of the spectrum, where you wish there was more to experience because it has so much going for it.

There are a few stellar moments in the main story missions that make proper use of the extreme weather system that is the core of Just Cause 4's premise. Specifically, the conclusion to a stormchaser-themed questline funnels you through a number of battles while a tornado rips through your surroundings. Your ability to parachute and glide are drastically affected by the wind velocity and turbulence, which throws some welcome unpredictability into the mix. One particular sequence is also indicative of what the grappling hook mods are capable of; destroying massive wind cannons that impede progress with boosters wasn't only the most efficient method, but watching these heaps of steel frantically spin out of control was a sight to behold. The last stand in this mission, a sequence of rooftop firefights amid the harsh weather, brings the many great pieces of the game together.

The same can't be said about the other extreme weather conditions, however. Sandstorms challenge you with violent winds and obscured vision, and thunderstorms bring torrential rain and lightning strikes that make for a visual treat. But they're not game-changing in the way tornadoes are since they have a minimal effect on gameplay. Even then, the questlines tied to these weather conditions and their respective biomes are over before you get to fully experience their unique qualities.

All the while, a vaguely coherent story about family and a rebellion against an evil regime serves as the platform for Rico's wild ride. Stories in Just Cause haven't been more than excuses for environmental destruction and a way to make you feel comically powerful, and the same holds true here, though you may find the ties to previous entries somewhat endearing. The harsh forecasts are justified by villain Oscar Espinoza's high-tech devices that control the weather and oppress the people of the fictional South American country Solis. Rico remains the plausible one-man army who has the capabilities of a superhero with the air of a grounded, unassuming protagonist. If there's anything that Just Cause does well story-wise, it's convincing you to accept the absurdity of it all.

Throughout the game, you'll be building a revolution across Solis, bolstering what's called the Army of Chaos. It's a fundamental piece to progression and the key to taking down Espinoza and toppling The Black Hand private military again. The Army of Chaos serves as a tool to controlling territories across the map since you need to accumulate squad reinforcements to overtake regions, which also gates your ability to take on story missions. Cause destruction and raise your chaos level, and get squads to progress. It boils down to a numbers game, and once you understand the structure of this system, you can easily snowball squad numbers and control all of Solis without having to grind your chaos level. Side activities from three minor characters litter the map as well; Sargento has you teaming with NPCs to destroy enemy infrastructure, Garland makes you do stunts, and Javi provides a bit more context to Solis by asking to do a few easy puzzles. It's more things to do, and they unlock the aforementioned grappling hook mods, but they're simple in nature and aren't enough to compensate for the shortcomings of other missions.

Just Cause 4 has incredible moments where beauty and destruction cross with Rico's ability to zip around the world at a moment's notice. It's gratifying and easy to grasp, especially when you're able to string a series of wingsuit fly-bys, vehicles hijackings, and fiery explosions all in the name of revolution, but those moments are either short-lived or tied to rudimentary missions. You're given an awesome toolset that paves the way for creativity in a world with too few problems to solve. At a time when open-world games sometimes overstay their welcome, Just Cause 4 is at the other end of the spectrum, where you wish there was more to experience because it has so much going for it.

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#2 Posted by Epak_ (10461 posts) -

Should have known.

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#3 Posted by Litchie (22641 posts) -

Most children who are gonna play it don't really care. Big sandbox, lots of explosions. That's all it takes to satisfy their immature minds.

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#4 Posted by DragonfireXZ95 (24712 posts) -

Most of us probably knew this. These games haven't gotten any better since JC2, and more of the same is just boring.

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#5 Edited by freedomfreak (50762 posts) -

Visually, it looks worse than Just Cause 2. I feel they had to downgrade it to make all the weather effects and rebel war work well.

It runs beautifully though. (compared to JC3)

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#6 Posted by Blackhairedhero (2343 posts) -

Launching an openworld game right after RDR2 with a quarter of the content and day one DLC. Yep..... I'd say it deserves a 6.

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#7 Posted by henrythefifth (1935 posts) -

Op has not even played the game, and, even worse, his post is just copy-paste crap. Op should be banned for being a moronic troll.

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#8 Posted by JustPlainLucas (78822 posts) -
@henrythefifth said:

Op has not even played the game, and, even worse, his post is just copy-paste crap. Op should be banned for being a moronic troll.

Meh. I've been playing it all day and it is a bit crap.

Also, I'm fucking ashamed of the textures. Looks like a 360 game.

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#9 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (17940 posts) -

Not surprised with scores it's been getting tbh... JC4 always looked like just more of the same old same old.

But hey, if people like it, all the power to them.

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#10 Posted by Ghosts4ever (8026 posts) -

@Litchie said:

Most children who are gonna play it don't really care. Big sandbox, lots of explosions. That's all it takes to satisfy their immature minds.

have you played JC2? that was single best third person sandbox game ever.

the thing is. after JC2. they gave just cause ip to avalanche new york. while JC2 team is making Rage 2.

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#11 Edited by uninspiredcup (29186 posts) -

Avalanche should drop the whole open world 50+ hour game shit and focus on a more linear 7-12 hour experience,

They are perfect for a James Bond game.

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#12 Posted by DoroG1995 (2326 posts) -

So instead I should play Mercenaries 1 on my PS2.

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#13 Posted by I_P_Daily (9468 posts) -

@Litchie said:

Most children who are gonna play it don't really care. Big sandbox, lots of explosions. That's all it takes to satisfy their immature minds.

So if you like explosions your a child???

That's some dumb shit, you sound like a gamer who loves to watch story driven games.

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#14 Posted by ArchoNils2 (10231 posts) -

typo in the title, it's about JC4, not 3.

I honestly don't care much about the series. I tried them, but got bored rather fast. It's obvious that their target demographic is kids.

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#15 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (13253 posts) -

Can't wait to play. Awesome series.

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#16 Posted by R4gn4r0k (29503 posts) -
@freedomfreak said:

Visually, it looks worse than Just Cause 2. I feel they had to downgrade it to make all the weather effects and rebel war work well.

It runs beautifully though. (compared to JC3)

I don't agree, I saw ACG's review yesterday and while Rico was jumping head first into a hurricane my mind was absolutely blown by the draw distance and how much was going on at any given time.

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#17 Edited by deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03 (6005 posts) -

Oh, look. Another fun game hated on because it's fun.

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#18 Posted by phbz (3822 posts) -

Damn, when Ghost said that this was going to be the best open world game ever I totally believed him.

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#19 Posted by johnd13 (9497 posts) -

JC's mayhem playground open-world was never really my cup of tea.

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#20 Posted by R4gn4r0k (29503 posts) -

@reduc_ab_ said:

Oh, look. Another fun game hated on because it's fun.

Games that don't score 9/10 + GOTY + GOAT aren't worth playing bro

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#21 Posted by mrbojangles25 (42367 posts) -

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Can't wait to play. Awesome series.

Its fun!

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#22 Posted by Icarian (1822 posts) -

This is JC4 not 3. 3 was good game.

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#23 Posted by Valgaav_219 (1969 posts) -

@henrythefifth said:

Op has not even played the game, and, even worse, his post is just copy-paste crap. Op should be banned for being a moronic troll.

How is he trolling when he posted an extremely detailed review which tells you all you need to know to form an opinion? And this is coming from the guy who said Ubisoft was the king of virtual world-building. Who's the real troll lol

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#24 Posted by DaVillain- (32975 posts) -

Still buying this Just Cause I know what I'm getting at ;)

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#25 Posted by Pedro (32033 posts) -
@davillain- said:

Still buying this Just Cause I know what I'm getting at ;)

How dare you purchase a game that someone else thinks is garbage. :P

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#26 Posted by DaVillain- (32975 posts) -

@Pedro said:
@davillain- said:

Still buying this Just Cause I know what I'm getting at ;)

How dare you purchase a game that someone else thinks is garbage. :P

I'm a gamer of taste, it's what I do for a living :P

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#27 Posted by Litchie (22641 posts) -
@i_p_daily said:
@Litchie said:

Most children who are gonna play it don't really care. Big sandbox, lots of explosions. That's all it takes to satisfy their immature minds.

So if you like explosions your a child???

That's some dumb shit, you sound like a gamer who loves to watch story driven games.

If you're very into GTA and Just Cause, Michael Bay movies and crap like that, it's likely you are a child. I'm speaking from personal experience on the matter. I liked those kind of games when I was a kid. You have this guy with lots of gadgets and several ways to cause chaos and mayhem. An action hero type of guy. That is super fun to kids. To most adults though, you might want something more than that to not be bored after an hour.

Not sure how I sound like a person who loves to watch story driven games. I usually dislike such games, and I'd sure as hell never watch any of them. You being a possibly asshurt Just Cause 4 buyer sounds more likely.

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#28 Posted by Pedro (32033 posts) -

@Litchie said:

If you're very into GTA and Just Cause, Michael Bay movies and crap like that, it's likely you are a child. I'm speaking from personal experience on the matter. I liked those kind of games when I was a kid. You have this guy with lots of gadgets and several ways to cause chaos and mayhem. An action hero type of guy. That is super fun to kids. To most adults though, you might want something more than that to not be bored after an hour.

Not sure how I sound like a person who loves to watch story driven games. I usually dislike such games, and I'd sure as hell never watch any of them. You being a possibly asshurt Just Cause 4 buyer sounds more likely.

Maybe people just like different things. I find it odd that you decide to classify people who like something different to you as childish in a GAME forum. Ironic, No!

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#29 Posted by Litchie (22641 posts) -
@Pedro said:
@Litchie said:

If you're very into GTA and Just Cause, Michael Bay movies and crap like that, it's likely you are a child. I'm speaking from personal experience on the matter. I liked those kind of games when I was a kid. You have this guy with lots of gadgets and several ways to cause chaos and mayhem. An action hero type of guy. That is super fun to kids. To most adults though, you might want something more than that to not be bored after an hour.

Not sure how I sound like a person who loves to watch story driven games. I usually dislike such games, and I'd sure as hell never watch any of them. You being a possibly asshurt Just Cause 4 buyer sounds more likely.

Maybe people just like different things. I find it odd that you decide to classify people who like something different to you as childish in a GAME forum. Ironic, No!

Sure. But again, I speak from my experience. Nowhere in my posts did I "classify people who likes something different to me as childish". I said most people I've seen who play these kinds of games are children. I also don't think there's anything wrong with being childish, mind you. If it makes other people asshurt to hear this from me, because they feel like I have attacked their maturity with their newly purchased Just Cause game or whatever, sorry bout that. Shouldn't really be a problem for those who are confident with who they are (like mature-minded people) though.

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#30 Posted by Pedro (32033 posts) -

@Litchie said:

Sure. But again, I speak from my experience. Nowhere in my posts did I "classify people who likes something different to me as childish". I said most people I've seen who play these kinds of games are children. I also don't think there's anything wrong with being childish, mind you. If it makes other people asshurt to hear this from me, because they feel like I have attacked their maturity with their newly purchased Just Cause game or whatever, sorry bout that. Shouldn't really be a problem for those who are confident with who they are (like mature-minded people) though.

I stand corrected. :)

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#31 Posted by jaydan (1653 posts) -

Was the game ever hyped to begin with? Has the franchise ever been anything more than a AA-franchise? If neither of these questions can be accounted for, then it can't be classified as a flop.

It just looks like the same Just Cause we've always been getting. I'm sure there's the niche crowd that will still buy it that's been buying all of them.

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#32 Posted by jeezers (1954 posts) -

Is it worse than JC3? i really liked JC3

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#33 Posted by N64DD (11185 posts) -

@Icarian said:

This is JC4 not 3. 3 was good game.

Yeah thread is labeled wrong.

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#34 Posted by with_teeth26 (9104 posts) -
@R4gn4r0k said:
@freedomfreak said:

Visually, it looks worse than Just Cause 2. I feel they had to downgrade it to make all the weather effects and rebel war work well.

It runs beautifully though. (compared to JC3)

I don't agree, I saw ACG's review yesterday and while Rico was jumping head first into a hurricane my mind was absolutely blown by the draw distance and how much was going on at any given time.

unfortunately Freedom is right, it looks worse than JC3.

as a fan of stupid games where you go around and blow things up I bought this yesterday, the graphical downgrade from 3 is very noticeable on PC. the water in particular looks terrible and the game desperately needs a better form of anti-aliasing. with better AA and water it'd look comparable to JC3, maybe (i'd have to go back and play it again).

the weather effects like the Tornados do look nice and are fun to mess around with.

as with JC3, there is some really fun gameplay to be had in 4, but everything surrounding it is pretty dull and underwhelming.

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#35 Edited by R4gn4r0k (29503 posts) -

@with_teeth26 said:

unfortunately Freedom is right, it looks worse than JC3.

as a fan of stupid games where you go around and blow things up I bought this yesterday, the graphical downgrade from 3 is very noticeable on PC. the water in particular looks terrible and the game desperately needs a better form of anti-aliasing. with better AA and water it'd look comparable to JC3, maybe (i'd have to go back and play it again).

the weather effects like the Tornados do look nice and are fun to mess around with.

as with JC3, there is some really fun gameplay to be had in 4, but everything surrounding it is pretty dull and underwhelming.

Damn !

It's something I also noticed in ACG's review: the water reflections are way off.

I kinda have my doubts about RAGE 2 now, seeing as Mad Max, Just cause 3 and now Just Cause 4 all feel half assed.

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#36 Posted by ZmanBarzel (1505 posts) -

@dorog1995 said:

So instead I should play Mercenaries 1 on my PS2.

Always the correct answer!

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#37 Edited by uninspiredcup (29186 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:
@with_teeth26 said:

unfortunately Freedom is right, it looks worse than JC3.

as a fan of stupid games where you go around and blow things up I bought this yesterday, the graphical downgrade from 3 is very noticeable on PC. the water in particular looks terrible and the game desperately needs a better form of anti-aliasing. with better AA and water it'd look comparable to JC3, maybe (i'd have to go back and play it again).

the weather effects like the Tornados do look nice and are fun to mess around with.

as with JC3, there is some really fun gameplay to be had in 4, but everything surrounding it is pretty dull and underwhelming.

Damn !

It's something I also noticed in ACG's review: the water reflections are way off.

I kinda have my doubts about RAGE 2 now, seeing as Mad Max, Just cause 3 and now Just Cause 4 all feel half assed.

From what I understand they are will be handling the driving aspects of Rage 2. They were pretty fucking awesome in Mad Max. basically the best thing in it.

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#38 Posted by Ghosts4ever (8026 posts) -
@uninspiredcup said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@with_teeth26 said:

unfortunately Freedom is right, it looks worse than JC3.

as a fan of stupid games where you go around and blow things up I bought this yesterday, the graphical downgrade from 3 is very noticeable on PC. the water in particular looks terrible and the game desperately needs a better form of anti-aliasing. with better AA and water it'd look comparable to JC3, maybe (i'd have to go back and play it again).

the weather effects like the Tornados do look nice and are fun to mess around with.

as with JC3, there is some really fun gameplay to be had in 4, but everything surrounding it is pretty dull and underwhelming.

Damn !

It's something I also noticed in ACG's review: the water reflections are way off.

I kinda have my doubts about RAGE 2 now, seeing as Mad Max, Just cause 3 and now Just Cause 4 all feel half assed.

From what I understand they are will be handling the driving aspects of Rage 2. They were pretty fucking awesome in Mad Max. basically the best thing in it.

plus Rage 2 is joint production game. the avalanche stockholm who made just cause 2 and mad max are working on it with id software.

its a different team. this is avalanche new york. the one who made just cause 3.

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#39 Posted by with_teeth26 (9104 posts) -

@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@with_teeth26 said:

unfortunately Freedom is right, it looks worse than JC3.

as a fan of stupid games where you go around and blow things up I bought this yesterday, the graphical downgrade from 3 is very noticeable on PC. the water in particular looks terrible and the game desperately needs a better form of anti-aliasing. with better AA and water it'd look comparable to JC3, maybe (i'd have to go back and play it again).

the weather effects like the Tornados do look nice and are fun to mess around with.

as with JC3, there is some really fun gameplay to be had in 4, but everything surrounding it is pretty dull and underwhelming.

Damn !

It's something I also noticed in ACG's review: the water reflections are way off.

I kinda have my doubts about RAGE 2 now, seeing as Mad Max, Just cause 3 and now Just Cause 4 all feel half assed.

From what I understand they are will be handling the driving aspects of Rage 2. They were pretty fucking awesome in Mad Max. basically the best thing in it.

plus Rage 2 is joint production game. the avalanche stockholm who made just cause 2 and mad max are working on it with id software.

its a different team. this is avalanche new york. the one who made just cause 3.

ah yes thats right. I think the Mad Max team is the better one, I thought Mad Max was more fun than JC3. (plus I think they made JC2 which is probably the best game in that series).

I still have hope for Rage 2

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#40 Posted by uninspiredcup (29186 posts) -

@with_teeth26 said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@with_teeth26 said:

unfortunately Freedom is right, it looks worse than JC3.

as a fan of stupid games where you go around and blow things up I bought this yesterday, the graphical downgrade from 3 is very noticeable on PC. the water in particular looks terrible and the game desperately needs a better form of anti-aliasing. with better AA and water it'd look comparable to JC3, maybe (i'd have to go back and play it again).

the weather effects like the Tornados do look nice and are fun to mess around with.

as with JC3, there is some really fun gameplay to be had in 4, but everything surrounding it is pretty dull and underwhelming.

Damn !

It's something I also noticed in ACG's review: the water reflections are way off.

I kinda have my doubts about RAGE 2 now, seeing as Mad Max, Just cause 3 and now Just Cause 4 all feel half assed.

From what I understand they are will be handling the driving aspects of Rage 2. They were pretty fucking awesome in Mad Max. basically the best thing in it.

plus Rage 2 is joint production game. the avalanche stockholm who made just cause 2 and mad max are working on it with id software.

its a different team. this is avalanche new york. the one who made just cause 3.

ah yes thats right. I think the Mad Max team is the better one, I thought Mad Max was more fun than JC3. (plus I think they made JC2 which is probably the best game in that series).

I still have hope for Rage 2

Yes. Wouldn't say Mad Max was a "bad" game. Just repetitive with derivative Batman combat.

I wish it's combat was more straight-forward and chaotic and like Just Cause.

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#41 Posted by with_teeth26 (9104 posts) -
@R4gn4r0k said:
@with_teeth26 said:

unfortunately Freedom is right, it looks worse than JC3.

as a fan of stupid games where you go around and blow things up I bought this yesterday, the graphical downgrade from 3 is very noticeable on PC. the water in particular looks terrible and the game desperately needs a better form of anti-aliasing. with better AA and water it'd look comparable to JC3, maybe (i'd have to go back and play it again).

the weather effects like the Tornados do look nice and are fun to mess around with.

as with JC3, there is some really fun gameplay to be had in 4, but everything surrounding it is pretty dull and underwhelming.

Damn !

It's something I also noticed in ACG's review: the water reflections are way off.

I kinda have my doubts about RAGE 2 now, seeing as Mad Max, Just cause 3 and now Just Cause 4 all feel half assed.

the bad AA is the main thing, jaggies everywhere and it makes the grass and people's hair shimmer in a strange way. its the kind of thing that probably wouldn't show up in a YT clip. playing in 4K might help with that issue (its still there in 1440p)

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#42 Posted by GarGx1 (10549 posts) -

I never got on with Just Cause 2 (never played the first one either) so no F's given.

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#43 Posted by Mandzilla (2110 posts) -

Another underwhelming 3rd party game. Don't really feel like I'm missing out on much here as a Switch gamer lol.

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#44 Posted by freedomfreak (50762 posts) -

It can still look great at times, though. I'm enjoying it. More than JC3. Shame they got rid of sticky bombs and dual wielding.

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#45 Posted by R4gn4r0k (29503 posts) -

@with_teeth26 said:

the bad AA is the main thing, jaggies everywhere and it makes the grass and people's hair shimmer in a strange way. its the kind of thing that probably wouldn't show up in a YT clip. playing in 4K might help with that issue (its still there in 1440p)

AA quality has been going downhill in games as of late.

We used to have more than either FXAA or TAA, and both cause massive amounts of blur.

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#46 Posted by with_teeth26 (9104 posts) -
@freedomfreak said:

It can still look great at times, though. I'm enjoying it. More than JC3. Shame they got rid of sticky bombs and dual wielding.

is it just me, or does the wing-suit feel slower than JC3 somehow? whooshing over the tops of hills with the wingsuit + grappling doesn't have quite the same sense of speed it did, unless my memory is failing me (it might be)

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#47 Posted by JustPlainLucas (78822 posts) -
@with_teeth26 said:
@freedomfreak said:

It can still look great at times, though. I'm enjoying it. More than JC3. Shame they got rid of sticky bombs and dual wielding.

is it just me, or does the wing-suit feel slower than JC3 somehow? whooshing over the tops of hills with the wingsuit + grappling doesn't have quite the same sense of speed it did, unless my memory is failing me (it might be)

You know, I was wondering that myself yesterday... it really doesn't seem as fast. I thought I kept stalling a bit too easy as well.

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#48 Posted by lamprey263 (35736 posts) -

It's nothing new to say this world is smaller and campaign shorter, Just Cause 3 already did that. All I wanna know is how current consoles handle it since that was a big problem with Just Cause 3. Anyhow, will wait for digital sales, or see if it ends up on Game Pass.

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#49 Posted by warmblur (1103 posts) -

Just another flop just don't care just want Sleeping Dogs 2.

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#50 Posted by Ghosts4ever (8026 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

It can still look great at times, though. I'm enjoying it. More than JC3. Shame they got rid of sticky bombs and dual wielding.

I think more effort has been made for Rage 2. as a result just cause once again given to avalanche new york a smaller company. thus avalanche Stockholm with id software concentrate on Rage 2 with bethesda is funding it and giving money.

they were just promoting Rage 2 primarily. as JC4 just announced on E3 and release within year while Rage 2 is next year game and is bigger project.

if JC was given to avalanche Stockholm it would have been great like JC2 was.