July NPD leak: Switch (narrowly) and Splatoon #1, Xbox One < 105k

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#1  Edited By Techhog89
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Apparently even leakers are embarrassed by XB1 sales.

Hardware:

NSW: 222K

PS4: 217K (+34.7%)

3DS: 105K (-44.3%)

Software:

PS4: 2299K (+52.0%)

NSW: 736K

3DS: 384K (-49.2%)

Splatoon 2 #1 332k

Switch is still supply constrained in the US, but not heavily. They can be found in many stores which have less consumer traffic. Basically, it's sold out in big cities and online, but in less populated areas stores have 2-10 units collecting dust. Also wow with those Splatoon sales relative to how much Switch software was sold. (Speaking of which, in before Switch is called a failure for being so utterly decimated in software sales because context doesn't matter).

Another good month for PS4, 3DS is on its last legs, and the first rule of sales club is that you don't talk about Xbox.

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#2 Chutebox
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How many respawns on live though?

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This is so sad. But wait until X1X...

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#4 Techhog89
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@tigerbalm: I really hope that you're not holding out hope that it's #1. It might even be behind 3DS.

Also, I forgot that 2DS XL launched last month. Ouch. 3DS really is completely dead.

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#6 Techhog89
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Welp. I just learned that it was specifically the top 3 hardware numbers leaked. Xbox One is fucking DEAD

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#7  Edited By aigis
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@inb4lock: inb4ban

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#8 Telekill
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X1 is probably not charting (it's Uncharted ;)) because people are waiting for the new system. We'll see a small spike for the holidays and then it will level out again. Plus, I believe 3DS is nearing the end of its life span so that will be dropping in the next year or two opening a spot for Microsoft.

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#9  Edited By QuadKnight
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? Xbone is MIA in its home country.

"? Don't worry guys...Crackhead 3 and XboneX will turn things around...right guys?...GUYS?!"

TLHBO again!

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#10 onesiphorus
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Are the plus and minus are based on last month sales or sales from the same time last year?

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#11  Edited By deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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XB1 is dead. X1X will be stillborn. Bad time to be a lemming.

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#12 QuadKnight
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@reduc_ab_ said:

XB1 is dead. X1X is stillborn.

Pretty much.

If MS aren't worried about these terrible numbers they are very stupid. I'm sure they are feverishly planning on their next step.

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#13 Solaryellow
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@techhog89 said:

Switch is still supply constrained in the US, but not heavily. They can be found in many stores which have less consumer traffic. Basically, it's sold out in big cities and online, but in less populated areas stores have 2-10 units collecting dust. Also wow with those Splatoon sales relative to how much Switch software was sold. (Speaking of which, in before Switch is called a failure for being so utterly decimated in software sales because context doesn't matter).

Another good month for PS4, 3DS is on its last legs, and the first rule of sales club is that you don't talk about Xbox.

Living in an area where the two "big" cities have around 75k residents, Switch hits the shelves and then sells rather quickly. The hardware doesn't sit anywhere long enough to gather dust. Really the only thing determining how long it stays on the shelf is what time of the day the stock arrives and gets shelved. Supply is still an ongoing issue for sure.

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@quadknight said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

XB1 is dead. X1X is stillborn.

Pretty much.

If MS aren't worried about these terrible numbers they are very stupid. I'm sure they are feverishly planning on their next step.

Just when you think the situation with MS couldn't get any sadder......boom. I bet the XB1 sold like 10 units.

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#15 Techhog89
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@Solaryellow: You're actually right. Looking into anecdotes more, it's actually only easy to find in stores people don't think of looking in. So yeah, sales are definitely still more supply dependant that demand at this point. I'm also hearing that restocks are becoming more common.

Switch should pass 2 million sold in the US this month.

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#16  Edited By QuadKnight
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@reduc_ab_ said:
@quadknight said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

XB1 is dead. X1X is stillborn.

Pretty much.

If MS aren't worried about these terrible numbers they are very stupid. I'm sure they are feverishly planning on their next step.

Just when you think the situation with MS couldn't get any sadder......boom. I bet the XB1 sold like 10 units.

They'll see a moderate spike during the holidays but things will go back to being dire once the XboneX launch hype fades.

There's no hope for them this gen and there's nothing they can do to salvage the Xbone brand, that ship has sailed. They need to start planning for next gen and a new line of consoles to distance themselves from the toxic Xbox One brand name. Next gen they need to come in hard with games, and real exclusive games not this "console launch exclusive" garbage. They also have to make sure that they don't make any stupid mistakes or gimmicks like forced DRM or Kinect 3.0. Launching decent hardware at a $399 price point will also be helpful.

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#17  Edited By KBFloYd
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it's good to see the two big restocks of switch in july actually resulted in sales.....

still.... for ps4 to be that close.... just means that console is digusting at selling lol....holidays are definitely up for grabs...cod/battlefront.assassins creed vs mario/xenoblade...it doesnt look pretty :P

good to see splatoon at #1 in the usa for the month..... did the first splatoon ever do that?

only 300k but.....its probably a lot more because i remember ARMS was like debut #5..numbers were 125k and it was totally wrong and still sold a million worldwide.

we'll have to wait for nintendo for the full splatoon sales..... i'm thinking it's 2.5 million right now...but idk

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#18  Edited By KBFloYd
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that ps4 software sales..2299K (+52.0%). ouch... how to compete with that?

i mean it is mostly 3rd party feeding trough and only a portion goes to sony....but still..

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The PS4 is basically the GTA5 of consoles. It's like nothing can stop it from selling.

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#20  Edited By QuadKnight
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Those PS4 software sales....Jesus lol.

@reduc_ab_ said:

The PS4 is basically the GTA5 of consoles. It's like nothing can stop it from selling.

Indeed and looking at their software numbers Sony must be extremely happy.

They are completely unstoppable. LOL @ lems saying exclusives don't matter and the two top selling consoles have better exclusives than the cratering Xbone.

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@KBFloYd said:

that ps4 software sales... ouch... how to compete with that?

Have sufficient stock available?

This Xmas when Best Buy has pallets of PS4 consoles, Nintendo can not afford to counter with a mere 10 or 20 a store.

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#22  Edited By KBFloYd
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@Solaryellow said:
@KBFloYd said:

that ps4 software sales... ouch... how to compete with that?

Have sufficient stock available?

This Xmas when Best Buy has pallets of PS4 consoles, Nintendo can not afford to counter with a mere 10 or 20 a store.

were ps4's sold out last christmas? were ps4's ever completetly sold out at christmas?

because if switch is hard to find this christmas....then... you have some explaining to do nintendo.

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#23  Edited By ellos
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That gap is not normal for xbox. People are waiting to buy X1X perhaps. I think there will be more excitement there than there was for the ps4poo. Things will be back to normal with some strong sales from X1X. Its gotta have a big launch xbox fans are ready.

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@aigis said:

@inb4lock: inb4ban

HA!

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#26 Nike_Air
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The Xbone Minecraft bundle was officially $249 for the whole month, and there was game giveways and firesales on the other Xbone's too. Are we sure Xbone isn't #1 ?

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#27  Edited By Solaryellow
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@KBFloYd said:
@Solaryellow said:

Have sufficient stock available?

This Xmas when Best Buy has pallets of PS4 consoles, Nintendo can not afford to counter with a mere 10 or 20 a store.

were ps4's sold out last christmas? were ps4's ever completetly sold out at christmas?

because if switch is hard to find this christmas....then... you have some explaining to do nintendo.

Having made stock available and in plenty of supply was far more important than whether or not each one was sold. If the stock is anything like it is now, Xmas will be a successful bust for Nintendo which will leave many an unhappy customer or hopeful customer.

Edit: The day S2 was released both Target and B.B. had about 6 Switches. A week later (after selling out) they had 3-6 each. That won't fly.

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#28  Edited By iandizion713
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@quadknight said:

Those PS4 software sales....Jesus lol.

@reduc_ab_ said:

The PS4 is basically the GTA5 of consoles. It's like nothing can stop it from selling.

Indeed and looking at their software numbers Sony must be extremely happy.

They are completely unstoppable. LOL @ lems saying exclusives don't matter and the two top selling consoles have better exclusives than the cratering Xbone.

Thats not that impressive considering Switch has a VERY small install base and almost got half. I mean hell, Splatoon alone got bout 400K. Those numbers are actually embarrassing.

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#29 xantufrog  Moderator
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What is it, only a "top 3" list or something? I can't imagine the X1 has actually tanked that hard, even with the X1X on the horizon 3

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#30 PinkAnimal
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Where's the Xbox? lmao! That's what happens when you have a completely redundant console that provides nothing over other systems. Get off while you still can lemmings.

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#31 xhawk27
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That demand for the Xbox One X ..... is going to be HUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#33 Techhog89
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@xantufrog: The leak is only for the top 3 hardware, yes. That's why 3DS was excluded last month but included now.

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#34  Edited By QuadKnight
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@iandizion713: These numbers were for July. There were no big releases for PS4 in July while Switch had Splatoon. What do you think will happen towards the end of this year when all the big PS4 and multi-platform games are out like COD, Star Wars, Assassins Creed, etc.? These are extremely impressive software numbers for Sony any how you look at it.

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#35 iandizion713
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@quadknight: Crash was their summer game.

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#36  Edited By xhawk27
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This is pointless because we all know Sony won this gen. The battle will be for the mid - gen console race that starts this November.

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#37  Edited By iandizion713
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@xhawk27: 3DS won, which means Nintendo won. Again.

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#38 QuadKnight
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@iandizion713: Yes it was and it beat Switch by huge numbers in the month it released (June).

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@iandizion713 said:

@xhawk27: 3DS won, which means Nintendo won. Again.

I didn't know the 3DS was a home console?

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#40  Edited By iandizion713
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@quadknight: It was the 30th though. So probably didnt even count for June. Its also a hot seller for July. Even in UK it is.

@xhawk27: Who the hell said home console? We talking about consoles. We talkin kings of gaming. Nintendo cant be stopped.

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#41 QuadKnight
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@iandizion713: It doesn't matter. Most of its sales effect was in June. No way to spin this dude.

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#42 iandizion713
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@quadknight: Probably didnt count for June, its too close to the end.

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@iandizion713 said:

@quadknight: It was the 30th though. So probably didnt even count for June. Its also a hot seller for July. Even in UK it is.

@xhawk27: Who the hell said home console? We talking about consoles. We talkin kings of gaming. Nintendo cant be stopped.

Yeah you are right. Nintendo are kings of gaming.

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#44  Edited By QuadKnight
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@iandizion713: Well it did because it charted at no. 4. for June NPD. You can't spin this Shirley.

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#45  Edited By iandizion713
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@quadknight: What am i trying to spin. All i said was i thought the numbers were very weak for such a large install base. Yall were the ones trying to praise the numbers.

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@quadknight: Hahaha, Crackhead 3!

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@xhawk27: Mid-Gen console races, goalpost offically just thrown in the garbage.

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#48 xantufrog  Moderator
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@techhog89: weird. thanks for clarifying though

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Hey TC, where's the link?

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#50 Techhog89
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@GameboyTroy: Since it's a leak, there isn't an article and the leaker doesn't want it to be linked. It's easy enough to find though.