Joystiq: “More identical” on the PC and PS4; Xbox not sharp.

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#1 MajesticShea
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http://www.examiner.com/article/battlefield-4-ps4-and-xbox-one-graphics-further-compared-against-pc-version

Ouch.

Another comparison has been made between“Battlefield 4” on next-generation consoles and the recently-released PC version. According to a report byJoystiq on Oct. 30, the PS4 and Xbox One iterations hold but well graphically with several issues compared to the first-person shooter running on a powerful personal computer.

The PS4 version of “Battlefield 4” looked the most similar to the PC copy. However, it still suffers from pop-in issues where objects occasionally take a few seconds to load. The multiplayer portion that was shown off was also plagued by the “CE-34878-0” error code, which is apparently a problem related to the online connection.

“Battlefield 4”on the Xbox One did not look as sharp as the other two versions due to its native 720p rendering. As a result, the visuals lack the anti-aliasing effects, making objects appeared to have jagged edges at long distances. Both next-generation consoles iteratios ran at a consistent 60 frames per second although the Xbox One is also plagued by some lighting issues.

Overall, Joystiq believed that the first-person shooter looked “nearly identical” on the PC and PS4 while the Xbox One version did not look as sharp. “Battlefield 4,” which is now available for the PC, will be released for the PS4 on Nov. 15 in addition to the Xbox One on Nov. 22. You can check out a few of its screens in the slideshow near the top of this article. You can order the products from Amazon in the following links: “Battlefield 4,”PS4 and Xbox One

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#2 Dreams-Visions
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just more of what we knew already.

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#3 deactivated-63e66f5999640
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Comparison videos looked the same to me with MAYBE subtle differences. I'll judge for myself when it's released.

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#4  Edited By clyde46
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What settings were they running the PC version on?

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xbox one is weak hardware, we know this.

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LMAO whoever says the PS4 version compares to the PC version at its highest settings is either blind or a member of the upset camp.

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@Tessellation: the pros disagree with your forum dweller mind

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It didn't take time to upset the bandodger LMAO,look at the tears.

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I'll wait for the finished product on Xbox One, thanks.

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#10  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Tessellation said:

LMAO whoever says the PS4 version compares to the PC version at its highest settings is either blind or a member of the upset camp.

And yet you don't have both versions readily available to you, where as they do.

Awesome logic bro.

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Comparison videos looked the same to me with MAYBE subtle differences. I'll judge for myself when it's released.

so you're going to drop $500 just to find this out yourself?

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I don't see what's the big deal, just sit 10 feet further and resolution becomes 1080p without needing to do anything else.

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#13  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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Still 900p on PS4. This fact by itself makes PS4 version not identical.

The video I made of BF4 Ultra Quality, 60fps, 1080p

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Pretty obvious.

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#15  Edited By Lumpy311
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@jhonMalcovich said:

Still 900p on PS4. This fact by itself makes PS4 version not identical.

Yup.

Joystiq was probably payed off by Sony.

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#16  Edited By MajesticShea
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@Tessellation: Why do you say LMAO every post. It doesn't mask your insecurity

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@silversix_ said:

I don't see what's the big deal, just sit 10 feet further and resolution becomes 1080p without needing to do anything else.

Also you can just sit 100 meters further and you will not tell the difference between TV been OFF and ON.

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Running at 1440p on PC, the game would have 2.5x as many pixels as the PS4's 900p version, so they're nowhere close to identical. In fact, the PS4 version would be unplayable in this state, and utterly vomit-inducing to look at.

Am I arguing resolutions properly? I'm just taking what I learned from the cows here on System Wars :study:

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#20  Edited By NFJSupreme
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PS4 = 900p at High settings. Compromising resolution for better effects

Xbone= 720p at medium? settings compromising resolution to achieve better framerate.

PC=1080p+, Ultra, 60fps+ No compromises.

I have a PC so I'll be going with the full uncut version of the game. PC remains superior for multiplats but we already knew this. PS4 is the way to go for multiplats if you are console only . Xbone if you love their exclussives and want all the extra functions it has. But we already new this.

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@Lumpy311 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Still 900p on PS4. This fact by itself makes PS4 version not identical.

Yup.

Joystiq was probably payed off by Sony.

Maybe not necessarily payed out but they also don't want to piss them off either and get blacklisted. More than likely though some money changed hands even if it were disguised as advertisement payments.

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@clyde46 said:

What settings were they running the PC version on?

Yeah, the PC version on Ultra is far better, especially at 1080p or above...

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@Lumpy311: The conspiracy's just like how you say the ps4 has heating issues.

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@treedoor said:

Running at 1440p on PC, the game would have 2.5x as many pixels as the PS4's 900p version, so they're nowhere close to identical. In fact, the PS4 version would be unplayable in this state, and utterly vomit-inducing to look at.

Am I arguing resolutions properly? I'm just taking what I learned from the cows here on System Wars

You're doing just fine.

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I'll wait for the finished product on Xbox One, thanks.

That sh** is finish already the games comes on xbox in a few weeks,you need time to press those games and ship them is not something you do on 2 days.

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#26  Edited By Lumpy311
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@Lumpy311: The conspiracy's just like how you say the ps4 has heating issues.

I'm betting it will, it's a really small box.

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@MK-Professor said:

@silversix_ said:

I don't see what's the big deal, just sit 10 feet further and resolution becomes 1080p without needing to do anything else.

Also you can just sit 100 meters further and you will not tell the difference between TV been OFF and ON.

That is true, you can also sit 100 meters further but i heard rumors that at 30 meters your resolution becomes 4k so i suggest to any X1 owner do that instead. Why would you sit 100 meter away from your tv anyway? I think that's too far.

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Identical to PC at what settings?

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@tormentos said:

@dubt72 said:

I'll wait for the finished product on Xbox One, thanks.

That sh** is finish already the games comes on xbox in a few weeks,you need time to press those games and ship them is not something you do on 2 days.

Wow dude, watch out, you'll have a meltdown.

Also, learn how to speak English.

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@lostrib said:

Identical to PC at what settings?

More identical.

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#31  Edited By Lumpy311
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@lostrib said:

Identical to PC at what settings?

at 720p low, no aa

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@princessgomez92 said:

@lostrib said:

Identical to PC at what settings?

More identical.

which is a useless term. Things are either identical or they're not. Yay, journalism

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#33  Edited By silversix_
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@NFJSupreme said:

PS4 = 900p at High settings. Compromising resolution for better effects

Xbone= 720p at medium? settings compromising resolution to achieve better framerate.

PC=1080p+, Ultra, 60fps+ No compromises.

I have a PC so I'll be going with the full uncut version of the game. PC remains superior for multiplats but we already knew this. PS4 is the way to go for multiplats if you are console only . Xbone if you love their exclussives and want all the extra functions it has. But we already new this.

you know, normally i would defend pc's shit because it IS the superior platform but you're soooo wrong about BF4. You're not gonna achieve 1080p/Ultra with steady 60fps+ so don't bring the pc advantage without mentioning the extremely high end rig (mostly SLI) you'll need to achieve this.

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@NFJSupreme said:

PS4 = 900p at High settings. Compromising resolution for better effects

Xbone= 720p at medium? settings compromising resolution to achieve better framerate.

PC=1080p+, Ultra, 60fps+ No compromises.

I have a PC so I'll be going with the full uncut version of the game. PC remains superior for multiplats but we already knew this. PS4 is the way to go for multiplats if you are console only . Xbone if you love their exclussives and want all the extra functions it has. But we already new this.

Come on dude where in hell you get the idea that PC = 1080p Ultra 60FPS no compromises,so you are talking about what the 4 GPU that can run BF4 at that setting and keep 60 FPS or higher.?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-4-graphics-card-performance,3634-8.html

You need 770GTX or better for that because the 7970 or 680GTX can't do that,those GPU are an extreme minority on PC extreme meaning less than 2%.

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Post a PC pic at ultra and the ps4 pic of the same place.

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@silversix_ said:

@NFJSupreme said:

PS4 = 900p at High settings. Compromising resolution for better effects

Xbone= 720p at medium? settings compromising resolution to achieve better framerate.

PC=1080p+, Ultra, 60fps+ No compromises.

I have a PC so I'll be going with the full uncut version of the game. PC remains superior for multiplats but we already knew this. PS4 is the way to go for multiplats if you are console only . Xbone if you love their exclussives and want all the extra functions it has. But we already new this.

you know, normally i would defend pc's shit because it IS the superior platform but you're soooo wrong about BF4. You're not gonna achieve 1080p/Ultra with steady 60fps+ so don't bring the pc advantage without bringing the extremely high end rig (mostly SLI) you'll need to achieve this.

Dude, you can easily do it these days. And PC gaming incorporates low end, mid end, and high end PCs.

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@Tessellation: MS should just start over and release a fully next gen system in 2015

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@tormentos said:

@NFJSupreme said:

PS4 = 900p at High settings. Compromising resolution for better effects

Xbone= 720p at medium? settings compromising resolution to achieve better framerate.

PC=1080p+, Ultra, 60fps+ No compromises.

I have a PC so I'll be going with the full uncut version of the game. PC remains superior for multiplats but we already knew this. PS4 is the way to go for multiplats if you are console only . Xbone if you love their exclussives and want all the extra functions it has. But we already new this.

Come on dude where in hell you get the idea that PC = 1080p Ultra 60FPS no compromises,so you are talking about what the 4 GPU that can run BF4 at that setting and keep 60 FPS or higher.?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-4-graphics-card-performance,3634-8.html

You need 770GTX or better for that because the 7970 or 680GTX can't do that,those GPU are an extreme minority on PC extreme meaning less than 2%.

it can be done, don't be so mad because the HeatBox can't do better than a mid end PC.

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#39  Edited By Lumpy311
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@TheKingIAm said:

@Tessellation: MS should just start over and release a fully next gen system in 2015

If anyone's console is going under, it's Sony's, their credit is awful

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@Lumpy311 said:
@silversix_ said:

@NFJSupreme said:

PS4 = 900p at High settings. Compromising resolution for better effects

Xbone= 720p at medium? settings compromising resolution to achieve better framerate.

PC=1080p+, Ultra, 60fps+ No compromises.

I have a PC so I'll be going with the full uncut version of the game. PC remains superior for multiplats but we already knew this. PS4 is the way to go for multiplats if you are console only . Xbone if you love their exclussives and want all the extra functions it has. But we already new this.

you know, normally i would defend pc's shit because it IS the superior platform but you're soooo wrong about BF4. You're not gonna achieve 1080p/Ultra with steady 60fps+ so don't bring the pc advantage without bringing the extremely high end rig (mostly SLI) you'll need to achieve this.

Dude, you can easily do it these days. And PC gaming incorporates low end, mid end, and high end PCs.

you have any proof for that? because i own a rig and i've seen BF4 benchies and know it goes... BF4 is hungry as fk and 60fps at Ultra is--------good luck is all i can say. Im talking about a stable 60fps here, not drops to 35fps all over the place and goes back to 60 when you're inside a building where there's nothing to render.

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#41 Lumpy311
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@silversix_ said:

@Lumpy311 said:
@silversix_ said:

@NFJSupreme said:

PS4 = 900p at High settings. Compromising resolution for better effects

Xbone= 720p at medium? settings compromising resolution to achieve better framerate.

PC=1080p+, Ultra, 60fps+ No compromises.

I have a PC so I'll be going with the full uncut version of the game. PC remains superior for multiplats but we already knew this. PS4 is the way to go for multiplats if you are console only . Xbone if you love their exclussives and want all the extra functions it has. But we already new this.

you know, normally i would defend pc's shit because it IS the superior platform but you're soooo wrong about BF4. You're not gonna achieve 1080p/Ultra with steady 60fps+ so don't bring the pc advantage without bringing the extremely high end rig (mostly SLI) you'll need to achieve this.

Dude, you can easily do it these days. And PC gaming incorporates low end, mid end, and high end PCs.

you have any proof for that? because i own a rig and i've seen BF4 benchies and know it goes... BF4 is hungry as fk and 60fps at Ultra is--------good luck is all i can say. Im talking about a stable 60fps here, not drops to 35fps all over the place and goes back to 60 when you're inside a building where there's nothing to render.

There's a video of it in this very thread page.

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@Lumpy311 said:

@silversix_ said:

@Lumpy311 said:
@silversix_ said:

@NFJSupreme said:

PS4 = 900p at High settings. Compromising resolution for better effects

Xbone= 720p at medium? settings compromising resolution to achieve better framerate.

PC=1080p+, Ultra, 60fps+ No compromises.

I have a PC so I'll be going with the full uncut version of the game. PC remains superior for multiplats but we already knew this. PS4 is the way to go for multiplats if you are console only . Xbone if you love their exclussives and want all the extra functions it has. But we already new this.

you know, normally i would defend pc's shit because it IS the superior platform but you're soooo wrong about BF4. You're not gonna achieve 1080p/Ultra with steady 60fps+ so don't bring the pc advantage without bringing the extremely high end rig (mostly SLI) you'll need to achieve this.

Dude, you can easily do it these days. And PC gaming incorporates low end, mid end, and high end PCs.

you have any proof for that? because i own a rig and i've seen BF4 benchies and know it goes... BF4 is hungry as fk and 60fps at Ultra is--------good luck is all i can say. Im talking about a stable 60fps here, not drops to 35fps all over the place and goes back to 60 when you're inside a building where there's nothing to render.

There's a video of it in this very thread page.

this is what you consider proof? We don't have fraps running for fps, don't know his rig (could be a three way SLI with 780's) and this is single player... who the F cares about how singleplayer runs? a 770 dips below 50fps so gl building something that is cheap and runs the game at your 1080p/ultra/60fps+

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@treedoor said:

Running at 1440p on PC, the game would have 2.5x as many pixels as the PS4's 900p version, so they're nowhere close to identical. In fact, the PS4 version would be unplayable in this state, and utterly vomit-inducing to look at.

Am I arguing resolutions properly? I'm just taking what I learned from the cows here on System Wars

You poor sad lemming...

You need GPU that cost twice of what the PS4 cost to pull 1440 at 60 FPS on Ultra,the PS4 is $100 less than the xbox one and runs 900p with faster frames better graphics and AO on.

@Lumpy311 said:

@tormentos said:

@dubt72 said:

I'll wait for the finished product on Xbox One, thanks.

That sh** is finish already the games comes on xbox in a few weeks,you need time to press those games and ship them is not something you do on 2 days.

Wow dude, watch out, you'll have a meltdown.

Also, learn how to speak English.

No meltdown dude just because i say that sh** doesn't mean i am saying it in a agitated manner.

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it can be done, don't be so mad because the HeatBox can't do better than a mid end PC.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=690gtx+&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Yes it can be done you need one of this ^^..

I never say it could not,but then again you are so blinded by your fanboysm that you just read what serve you best..lol

I don't care since the PS4 cost less than a mid range PC,unlike the xbox one which cost more and deliver worse graphics and performance to.

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#44  Edited By MK-Professor
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@tormentos said:

@treedoor said:

Running at 1440p on PC, the game would have 2.5x as many pixels as the PS4's 900p version, so they're nowhere close to identical. In fact, the PS4 version would be unplayable in this state, and utterly vomit-inducing to look at.

Am I arguing resolutions properly? I'm just taking what I learned from the cows here on System Wars

You poor sad lemming...

You need GPU that cost twice of what the PS4 cost to pull 1440 at 60 FPS on Ultra,the PS4 is $100 less than the xbox one and runs 900p with faster frames better graphics and AO on.


Two HD7950(1200MHz) do more than just "1440p, 60fps, Ultra" on BF4 and cost less than a PS4.

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@Dreams-Visions said:

just more of what we knew already.

Pretty much.

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#47  Edited By clyde46
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@MK-Professor: True, but you still need a decent CPU, a proper compatible motherboard, ram, etc... it's not as straightforward as that. Though if you have the money for it PC is clearly the way to go, no doubt about it. Especially for games like BF4.

Zing!

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#48 dubt72
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@tormentos. We'll see on the 12tg when the Xbox One review embargo ends. Don't forget, games nowadays aren't complete at pressing. Most have a day one update or patch.

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#49  Edited By edidili
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The difference in pixels between 1080p and 900p is bigger than between 900p and 720p.

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#50 NFJSupreme
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@tormentos said:

@NFJSupreme said:

PS4 = 900p at High settings. Compromising resolution for better effects

Xbone= 720p at medium? settings compromising resolution to achieve better framerate.

PC=1080p+, Ultra, 60fps+ No compromises.

I have a PC so I'll be going with the full uncut version of the game. PC remains superior for multiplats but we already knew this. PS4 is the way to go for multiplats if you are console only . Xbone if you love their exclussives and want all the extra functions it has. But we already new this.

Come on dude where in hell you get the idea that PC = 1080p Ultra 60FPS no compromises,so you are talking about what the 4 GPU that can run BF4 at that setting and keep 60 FPS or higher.?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-4-graphics-card-performance,3634-8.html

You need 770GTX or better for that because the 7970 or 680GTX can't do that,those GPU are an extreme minority on PC extreme meaning less than 2%.

dude i'm playing the game right now on ultra at a solid 60fps. Maybe those are single player benchmarks. In multiplayer on my 7950 OC to 1100 MHz i'm getting a rock solid 55 to 60fps with everything turned up and 4xMAA the occasional dip to 50.