Jeff Grubb: Nvidia's RTX 3080 is more exciting than PS5 or XBSX

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#1 loco145
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Even in 2013, everyone knew that the new PlayStation 4 and Xbox One consoles weren’t really a match for PC gaming. Those consoles came with an underpowered and outdated AMD CPU that would go on to limit what was possible throughout the entire generation. But in 2020, it’s more difficult to tell how the consoles will stack up against modern PCs. Nvidia, however, made it clear today that it’s not gonna let Sony and Microsoft leave it behind thanks to the new RTX 3000-series GPUs it officially revealed this morning. And as of today, I’m more excited for the Nvidia RTX 3080 than either the Xbox Series X or the PlayStation 5.

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#2 SOedipus
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Well...yeah.

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Phil Spencer is a lie, Jensen Huang is the truth!

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#4 IvanGrozny
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The biggest generational leap in GPUs so far. Yeah, it's kinda big deal.

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#5 mrbojangles25
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In other news, water is wet.

Nah but seriously, consoles are fine and all, but their whole reason of being is to be an inexpensive video game platform that is easy to use, but the trade off is relatively low-performing hardware and limited purpose.

Consoles are about as exciting as a Honda Accord; PC hardware is exciting like a Corvette.

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Who?

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#7 blueinheaven
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Pleasantly surprised by the pricing on the 3070 and 3080. I'm thinking now I might get a 3080, should be fine for 4K 60fps. The 3090 seems a stretch too far pricewise, though I might change my mind if I can find a good deal on one.

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Here’s the funny thing too. We know when the GPUs are releasing and the prices yet we don’t even know how much the PS5 and the XSX cost or when they are coming out. Microsoft and Sony need to get with it and just tell people. This game of chicken they are playing makes me think the consoles are going to be pretty expensive and they don’t want to lose hype.

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#9 Archangel3371  Online
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That’s cool. I’m just excited with advances in tech in general myself. I’m not into the PC gaming scene these days though and just prefer the console space right now. I’m hyped enough for what the consoles will be offering from the previous gen.

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#10  Edited By BassMan
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Consoles just got shit on... hard. LOL

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@BassMan said:

Consoles just got shit on... hard. LOL

Show me the $500 PC that shits on consoles.

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Why would I spend only $500 on gaming hardware? I actually care about quality.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@BassMan said:

Consoles just got shit on... hard. LOL

Show me the $500 PC that shits on consoles.

Peasant talk.

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Yeah I am way more hyped for these new cards. I decided to hold off on the PS5 and go with either a 3070 or more likely a 3080. The leap in performance should be pretty staggering. Plus if Sony is serious about porting more games over to the pc, it makes sense to just upgrade my pc.

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i 'm going to wait for the 3090TI or 3080TI whichever they decide to release.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@BassMan said:

Consoles just got shit on... hard. LOL

Show me the $500 PC that shits on consoles.

You know, by the time they are released in November, it might be possible to build one from used parts.
Maybe even check out your local scrapyard after the RTX 3070 drops in October😂

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@NathanDrakeSwag: let's be honest, consoles don't only cost $500. People pay for online, controllers, accessories, or more for games. Also, the new Nvidia GPU's just took a massive dump on consoles

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"Absolute stagnation equals effective regression," is a line I like to say.

PC has no technological generations, and is therefore continually advancing while consoles stagnate. The new consoles were probably already set in stone about two years ago. Meanwhile, PC marches on. Nothing new.

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@Fairmonkey said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: let's be honest, consoles don't only cost $500. People pay for online, controllers, accessories, or more for games. Also, the new Nvidia GPU's just took a massive dump on consoles

GPUs that cost more than entire consoles should be more powerful. It would be sad if they weren't.

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#21  Edited By Fedor
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Fairmonkey said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: let's be honest, consoles don't only cost $500. People pay for online, controllers, accessories, or more for games. Also, the new Nvidia GPU's just took a massive dump on consoles

GPUs that cost more than entire consoles should be more powerful. It would be sad if they weren't.

Well the RTX3060 will still beat the consoles and it will be $300 according to leaks. Thats in the price range for the more budget oriented gamer, like yourself.

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@KBFloYd said:

i 'm going to wait for the 3090TI or 3080TI whichever they decide to release.

do you need either of those to plug into your nintendo switch or something?

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@fedor said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Fairmonkey said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: let's be honest, consoles don't only cost $500. People pay for online, controllers, accessories, or more for games. Also, the new Nvidia GPU's just took a massive dump on consoles

GPUs that cost more than entire consoles should be more powerful. It would be sad if they weren't.

Well the RTX3060 will still beat the consoles and it will be $300 according to leaks. Thats more in the price range for the more budget oriented gamer, like yourself.

No thanks. The problem with PC gaming isn't the price. It's the cheaters, crashes, constantly needing to download drivers and tweak settings to get games to run properly, and of course the biggest of all being Windows absolutely sucks. I buy Apple products to avoid it.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@fedor said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Fairmonkey said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: let's be honest, consoles don't only cost $500. People pay for online, controllers, accessories, or more for games. Also, the new Nvidia GPU's just took a massive dump on consoles

GPUs that cost more than entire consoles should be more powerful. It would be sad if they weren't.

Well the RTX3060 will still beat the consoles and it will be $300 according to leaks. Thats more in the price range for the more budget oriented gamer, like yourself.

No thanks. The problem with PC gaming isn't the price. It's the cheaters, crashes, constantly needing to download drivers and tweak settings to get games to run properly, and of course the biggest of all being Windows absolutely sucks. I buy Apple products to avoid it.

Is it 2006?

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@madrocketeer said:

"Absolute stagnation equals effective regression," is a line I like to say.

PC has no technological generations, and is therefore continually advancing while consoles stagnate. The new consoles were probably already set in stone about two years ago. Meanwhile, PC marches on. Nothing new.

Yeah they are completely different, so just let us play the game where we like to play the most.

If that is on console for some people, than fine

If that is on PC for others, that is fine too

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Definitely is for me. It's making me do a full overhaul of my system, and i'm good with that.

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#27  Edited By Pedro
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I am not sure how its more exciting. People complained about playing games at higher framerates and resolution as being more of the same old same old. But that was console gamers so...

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@KBFloYd said:

i 'm going to wait for the 3090TI or 3080TI whichever they decide to release.

Sit down. You can't play Splatoon on PC. 🤣

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Well it’s time for Xbox to stop hyping 12tflops and 8K. And Sony should just stop with the tech talk altogether and just show games. The consoles haven’t been this outclassed before launch since, well ever... The PS5 and Xbox Series X feel like little kiddy toys after seeing the 3070, 3080 and 3090 today. PlayStation and Xbox were so worried about competing with each other and holding their own AMD cards close. The vendor they turned down, (Nvidia) just shat all over their plans for the next 5-7 years. Imagine if Xbox and/or PlayStation went with Nvidia and they used a 3060-3070 level GPU... Proper raytracing, DLSS. You know, proven features by the market leader. Instead we are gonna see further confirmation or the dud that is RDNA2. And a couple of 9-12tflop GPUs that compare to 6-8 Tflops GPUs from Nvidia’s old line...

Lol AMD

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#30  Edited By Pedro
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@goldenelementxl: Yet you tout the Switch. Take a seat.

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@Pedro: The Switch serves a purpose. A hybrid with total portable functionality. Oh, and a unique library. What function will the other 2 consoles provide? Especially with Sony expanding PC support after Xbox moved all their first party stuff to PC.

The Xbox and Playstation have no unique games and nothing even resembling power next gen. And with the premium price rumors... It’s not looking good

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@goldenelementxl said:

@Pedro: The Switch serves a purpose. A hybrid with total portable functionality. Oh, and a unique library. What function will the other 2 consoles provide? Especially with Sony expanding PC support after Xbox moved all their first party stuff to PC.

The Xbox and Playstation have no unique games and nothing even resembling power next gen. And with the premium price rumors... It’s not looking good

Consoles serves a purpose like they have always serve. A dedicated cheap gaming machine. I can argue the Switch will become the most useless in the next 2 years because of streaming but I have to wait until next year to solidify that claim. 😮

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Whelp for people are purchased the RTX 2000 series and what about AMD and there answer to this?

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@KBFloYd said:

i 'm going to wait for the 3090TI or 3080TI whichever they decide to release.

Sit down. You can't play Splatoon on PC. 🤣

@phlop_spencer said:
@KBFloYd said:

i 'm going to wait for the 3090TI or 3080TI whichever they decide to release.

do you need either of those to plug into your nintendo switch or something?

oh look. 2 potato station pro owners think they have more right to game on PC than nintendo owners. nice try clowns

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@Pedro: Game streaming requires a good, reliable internet connection. The Switch can play it’s diverse, unique library 100% port stand 100% offline... Cheap gaming machines like the PS5 and Xbox whatever only hold back progress in development.

Nice try

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@goldenelementxl said:

Well it’s time for Xbox to stop hyping 12tflops and 8K. And Sony should just stop with the tech talk altogether and just show games. The consoles haven’t been this outclassed before launch since, well ever... The PS5 and Xbox Series X feel like little kiddy toys after seeing the 3070, 3080 and 3090 today. PlayStation and Xbox were so worried about competing with each other and holding their own AMD cards close. The vendor they turned down, (Nvidia) just shat all over their plans for the next 5-7 years. Imagine if Xbox and/or PlayStation went with Nvidia and they used a 3060-3070 level GPU... Proper raytracing, DLSS. You know, proven features by the market leader. Instead we are gonna see further confirmation or the dud that is RDNA2. And a couple of 9-12tflop GPUs that compare to 6-8 Tflops GPUs from Nvidia’s old line...

Lol AMD

This coming from a guy who shills the Switch, take a seat and stop embarrassing yourself.

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#37 JasonOfA36
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Next gen consoles are already outdated before they were even released. Pfft.

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#38  Edited By Pedro
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@goldenelementxl: The PS5 and Series X are holding things back but not the Switch.🤣😂 Pull a chair and sit this one out.

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3080 $900Aud, that's cheaper than I thought. I'm getting one, don't know if day one yet though,also wanted it water cooled but I know some brands void warranty if you take off the heatsink.

570 mobo arrives today :) just need a new cpu to replace my 1400 and a new NVME and I'm good to go.

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@BassMan: This is hilarious watching cows... well really just one cow who has recently gone full re.... full moron, try to damage control this.

Buh buh...... dat price performance ratio bruh! Thats what this has been about the whole time! Starting now.

Show me the craft beer that's priced the same as pabst blue ribbon!

Show me the corvette priced at $20K that outperforms my Honda accord!

Show me the jackhammer that costs the same as my pickaxe which does the same job for waaaay cheaper.

Y'all are just suckers overpaying for the same thing, I swear.

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@appariti0n said:

@BassMan: This is hilarious watching cows... well really just one cow who has recently gone full re.... full moron, try to damage control this.

Buh buh...... dat price performance ratio bruh! Thats what this has been about the whole time! Starting now.

Show me the craft beer that's priced the same as pabst blue ribbon!

Show me the corvette priced at $20K that outperforms my Honda accord!

Show me the jackhammer that costs the same as my pickaxe which does the same job for waaaay cheaper.

Y'all are just suckers overpaying for the same thing, I swear.

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#42  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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In a way it is I just wish we had more PC exclusives like MS flight simulator that really can show off the tech and not be held back by consoles. Next gen VR PC headsets will probaly be that actually now that I think of it.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: PCs can cost a little more than consoles if u want them too but it is so worth it. It's just better imo as someone who grew up on console

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@Fairmonkey said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: PCs can cost a little more than consoles if u want them too but it is so worth it. It's just better imo as someone who grew up on console

You have buyers remorse and you're trying to reassure yourself. It's okay man.

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#45 blaznwiipspman1
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in a month AMD will release their cards, the 6700XT based on big navi 2, that has all the nvidia features and be cheaper.

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@blaznwiipspman1: it won’t beat the Nvidia 20 series cards, will run hotter and more power hungry, and flop at raytracing

Lol AMD

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@NathanDrakeSwag: nope, pc is just better. It just is

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@NathanDrakeSwag: apple is overpriced fangirl shit. Open source or windows is better. Apple is better if I want to play candy crush. All of your pc complaints are pretty much nothing major at all. Most games have strong anti cheat software included and I dont come across cheaters often at all, crashes are infrequent, drivers don't take long at all, it's literally a mouse click. you also have to download a ton of shit on console too, changing settings for a game is easy as hell and I'm glad pc has it instead of being stuck with a piece of shit only on consoles. Meanwhile, consoles are still weak and outdated with shitty control aiming, 30fps, no customization, pay for online, no modding, and none of the laundry list of benefits with pc

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Have to say, I'm impressed and surprised by the specs they rolled out. Yeah we had the rumors but...

Pricing is only ok IMO. 3070 is 100 more than their target for that class card has been. Yes it's a big generational leap, but so was the 970. The others are in the usual "yeah no" price territory for me

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#50 JasonOfA36
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@xantufrog: TBF, the 2070 did release at 600 USD, which was really stupid. But a 70 series being 100(200 for the 2070) more expensive than usual is pretty weird.