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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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As to whether our philosophy has changed or not, the basic idea that consumers reluctantly purchase hardware only because they want to play with appealing software remains unchanged. I only mentioned the Wii U software “Mario Kart 8” and “Super Smash Bros. for Wii U” today, but of course, we are going to talk about other Wii U titles at E3 (Electronic Entertainment Expo) in Los Angeles in June. Also, our internal software development teams directed by Shigeru Miyamoto (Senior Managing Director and General Manager of Entertainment Analysis & Development Division) are committed to developing several titles that focus on offering unique experiences only made possible with the Wii U GamePad in order for a large number of people to understand the Wii U GamePad’s significance. The titles we are preparing to show you at E3 vary from being nearly complete to still in the early phases of development but with the core of its appeal noticeable. Therefore, our strategy of focusing on software has not changed.

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They're not just going to talk about the same titles that they have been talking about over and over since January 2013- they will announce new games, and show them off, even those that are in early stages of development, to generate hype.

This E3 is gonna be fun.

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#2 freedomfreak
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I really, really hope so.

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#3  Edited By finalfantasy94
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kinda hope so since last year they kinda left the wiiu high and dry.Ill buy one but nintendo has to give me a reason.

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#4  Edited By tonitorsi
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Everybody is getting ready to drop the giga megatons.

By far its going to be the best E3 we've ever had.

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#5  Edited By AutoPilotOn
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Nintendo has got to do something. If they don't turn around the wiiu somehow this year or so there will be major changes that need to take place.

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#6 musicalmac  Moderator
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I was hoping "all out" meant more than "new games." Just me.

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They're never going to make me "understand" the Gamepad's significance, and megaton, to me, qualifies as these things:

  • A $100 price cut
  • Metroid Prime 4
  • A new Zelda that looks like the teaser from 2012
  • A new F-Zero
  • Creating an online infrastructure comparable to XBL and PSN

None of these are going to happen, so I won't get my hopes up.

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#8 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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I have no confidence in what Nintendo "going all in" could mean. This could be anything from 2014 being the year of Waluigi to having your Mii be a character in the new Smash Bros.

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#9  Edited By PhazonBlazer
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More like all-out...of business...

Nintendo sucks.

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#10 Nike_Air
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Sounds like some Quality of Life titles and some party games on top of the good stuff. I am excited.

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#11  Edited By Gue1
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Everyone but sony seem very desperate.

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@Renegade_Fury said:

They're never going to make me "understand" the Gamepad's significance, and megaton, to me, qualifies as these things:

  • A $100 price cut
  • Metroid Prime 4
  • A new Zelda that looks like the teaser from 2012
  • A new F-Zero
  • Creating an online infrastructure comparable to XBL and PSN

None of these are going to happen, so I won't get my hopes up.

  1. This won't happen just yet. I would instead count on more bundles showing up.
  2. A very high likelihood of this happening (or at the very least of there being some kind of new Metroid game)
  3. This is also almost certainly guaranteed, though the artstyle is anyone's guess
  4. Slightly more iffy
  5. This already exists. What do you even mean by this? In any way possible, playing online on NN is functionally similar to playing online on Xbox or PlayStation. Unless you meant they need to separate their accounts from their devices, in which case, yes, I agree, and I hope they show that this year too.
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Nintendo has got to do something. If they don't turn around the wiiu somehow this year or so there will be major changes that need to take place.

The Wii U is never getting turned around. All they can really feasibly do is ride it out.

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I was hoping "all out" meant more than "new games." Just me.

Of course it doesn't. Games are the point. Any system is as good as the games it has, good hardware is meaningless. See also: 3DS and PSV.

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@Nike_Air said:

Sounds like some Quality of Life titles and some party games on top of the good stuff. I am excited.

One could also argue that everyone else is working to get the audience's attention, except for Sony, who almost seem to be coasting complacently at this point.

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Please understand.

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#15  Edited By AutoPilotOn
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@Gue1: Sony as a whole is pretty desperate. Ps4 is successful though.

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While a Smash Tournament is a decent start... we'll see, Iwata. We'll see...

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#17  Edited By PhazonBlazer
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They can always just milk the Pokemon franchise some more

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Metroid open world rpg where Samus get's to be a real bounty hunter.

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#19 4myAmuzumament
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E3 is always good for Nintendo fans, bar the Cammie one.

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#20  Edited By no-scope-AK47
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Everybody at Nintendo 2015 e3 below

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#21  Edited By LadyBlue
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@PhazonBlazer said:

They can always just milk the Pokemon franchise some more

Charming.

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#22  Edited By VendettaRed07
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Please don't disappoint Nintendo, my soul can't take it.

The Mega 64 video and the last 2 directs gave me a ton of hope.

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#23  Edited By Renegade_Fury
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@charizard1605 said:

@Renegade_Fury said:

They're never going to make me "understand" the Gamepad's significance, and megaton, to me, qualifies as these things:

  • A $100 price cut
  • Metroid Prime 4
  • A new Zelda that looks like the teaser from 2012
  • A new F-Zero
  • Creating an online infrastructure comparable to XBL and PSN

None of these are going to happen, so I won't get my hopes up.

  1. This won't happen just yet. I would instead count on more bundles showing up.
  2. A very high likelihood of this happening (or at the very least of there being some kind of new Metroid game)
  3. This is also almost certainly guaranteed, though the artstyle is anyone's guess
  4. Slightly more iffy
  5. This already exists. What do you even mean by this? In any way possible, playing online on NN is functionally similar to playing online on Xbox or PlayStation. Unless you meant they need to separate their accounts from their devices, in which case, yes, I agree, and I hope they show that this year too.
  1. I know, maybe in a year
  2. I really doubt it, or at least anything on the level of Prime. If they do show a new Metroid, I bet it would be something like "New Metroid U," which would be interesting, but not nearly as awesome or be a "must buy" like a legitimate Prime game. The only other thing that would be acceptable would be Metroid 5 for the 3DS, but that doesn't help the Wii U.
  3. They'll show the new Zelda, but no way will it be in that style or be that "dark." I'm leaning for them to pull a Space World 2000 to Wind Waker slap in the face again.
  4. Basically, no chance. *sigh*
  5. That, cross game party chat, etc. Basically, I want a carbon copy of what XBL Gold is now on the 360.

So yeah, I doubt anything they have planned for E3 is going to impress me.

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I hope they show us some good stuff. I need some new things to get excited about for my Wii U.

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#25  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@4myAmuzumament said:

E3 is always good for Nintendo fans, bar the Cammie one.

Even Cammie Dunway aside, that's not always the case.

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#26  Edited By Truth_Hurts_U
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Better have a $99 Wii U then. That's the only way I see them selling more consoles. They sell so much first party they can make up the loss.

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#27 ghostwarrior786
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last e3 was probably the best ive seen in terms of excitment and announcements and ive been watching since around 06, this is shaping up to be a MEGA e3 because ninty and m$ really need to go all in. i just hope sony dont save games announcement for another show, i want everything at e3

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#28  Edited By silversix_
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So all in that they aren't even having a real show Sony/MS is having... such all in, much beautiful all in.

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@Truth_Hurts_U said:

Better have a $99 Wii U then. That's the only way I see them selling more consoles. They sell so much first party they can make up the loss.

No bueno. Might as well give it for free. Prcing should be $250 for Deluxe model, and $199 for basic.

I don't know what they could do to get excite the masses. Anything they do would be expected Metroid, Zelda, Mario, DK. They need something new, and bold.

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#30  Edited By Capitan_Kid
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I guess thats one way of interpreting that. Not exactly how I would

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Unless Nintendo has a wii u with no pad for 200 consider this e3 the death rattle of the wii u. Even MS has dumped the dead weight and dropped the price of the xflop.

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@no-scope-AK47 said:

Unless Nintendo has a wii u with no pad for 200 consider this e3 the death rattle of the wii u. Even MS has dumped the dead weight and dropped the price of the xflop.

There is a major difference between dropping the Kinect and dropping the Pad.

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#33  Edited By musicalmac  Moderator
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@charizard1605 said:

Of course it doesn't. Games are the point. Any system is as good as the games it has, good hardware is meaningless. See also: 3DS and PSV.

I was thinking outside of hardware, too. If you're going all out, reduce the price of your system by 100 dollars and include with it a game. That to me is more all out than simply giving us more of what we're reasonably expecting.

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@musicalmac said:

@charizard1605 said:

Of course it doesn't. Games are the point. Any system is as good as the games it has, good hardware is meaningless. See also: 3DS and PSV.

I was thinking outside of hardware, too. If you're going all out, reduce the price of your system by 100 dollars and include with it a game. That to me is more all out than simply giving us more of what we're reasonably expecting.

Well, they already include a game with every console and are even including a game with every copy of Mario Kart 8. Do you really think Nintendo can afford to lower the price by $100? Most consoles are subsidized by things like controller sales and online fees. The Wii U is backwards compatible with last gen controllers and has free online. I wouldn't even expect Nintendo to see an immediate boost in software sales if sales were to pick up, considering all the free software they are giving away right now.

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#35  Edited By TrappedInABox91
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If they don't, Iwata's ass is probably getting kicked out the backdoor by shareholders lol

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#36  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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It all sounds good but the disconcerting thing to me is that it sounds like they're going to try and force the gamepad more on us. That thing is the most bulky and unergonomic piece of crap i've ever used.

It's helpful with stuff like pikmin when it's just a second screen to look at, but I hope they don't shove the gamepad down our throats too much.

The gamepad is just too bulky, if they revise it with a smaller screen (so the rest can be smaller, maybe Vita size screen), good ergonomics and better battery life that'd be great.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

Unless Nintendo has a wii u with no pad for 200 consider this e3 the death rattle of the wii u. Even MS has dumped the dead weight and dropped the price of the xflop.

There is a major difference between dropping the Kinect and dropping the Pad.

I call bullshit on this MS said the same thing and in 6 months oh shit the x180 has no kinect and cost 400 bucks. Now Nintendo has 2 next gen consoles at 400 with the wii u at 300. You also have the ps3 and 360 selling at 200 with way more games and similar graphics with much improved online gaming.

Nintendo is pretty much screwed unless they drop the price of the wii u to 200 bucks.

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@ladyblue: Well then, good luck selling a $199+ console with little to no 3rd party support.

They might as well pull the plug then if they aren't going to take a bigger risk.

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#39  Edited By musicalmac  Moderator
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

Well, they already include a game with every console and are even including a game with every copy of Mario Kart 8. Do you really think Nintendo can afford to lower the price by $100? Most consoles are subsidized by things like controller sales and online fees. The Wii U is backwards compatible with last gen controllers and has free online. I wouldn't even expect Nintendo to see an immediate boost in software sales if sales were to pick up, considering all the free software they are giving away right now.

A PS4 is only 100 dollars more and it's much newer (and more powerful). If Nintendo is going to compete again, I can't help but imagine it doing so at Wii-like prices (not current Wii U prices). A 199USD Wii U bundle is much more appealing and could lead to better software sales.

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#40  Edited By DaBrainz
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I wish they didn't let Iwata speak. Its so hard to follow.

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I refuse to get excited for Nintendo in E3, they also disappoint me sadly. They either underwhelm me or not surprise me at all. If they are going all in, show us new titles and more of Project X

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@TrappedInABox91 said:

If they don't, Iwata's ass is probably getting kicked out the backdoor by shareholders lol

Screw the shareholders, they care even less about games than any CEO does.

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@no-scope-AK47 said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

Unless Nintendo has a wii u with no pad for 200 consider this e3 the death rattle of the wii u. Even MS has dumped the dead weight and dropped the price of the xflop.

There is a major difference between dropping the Kinect and dropping the Pad.

I call bullshit on this MS said the same thing and in 6 months oh shit the x180 has no kinect and cost 400 bucks. Now Nintendo has 2 next gen consoles at 400 with the wii u at 300. You also have the ps3 and 360 selling at 200 with way more games and similar graphics with much improved online gaming.

Nintendo is pretty much screwed unless they drop the price of the wii u to 200 bucks.

Kinect = OPTIONAL

Wii Pad = Mandatory. Taking it out requires one hell of a patch, but besides that, is shooting themselves in the foot.

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I am cautiously optimistic. I'm not going to get hyped, as Nintendo could disappoint me.

I'm expecting all of the big three to have a good E3 though. Should be an exciting E3.

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#45  Edited By Bigboi500
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They better go all out this E3, or their console days are done.

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#46 R4gn4r0k
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I don't get why they don't hold a conference. But if they announce a shit-ton of games than I don't care.

I want:

-Zelda

-Paper Mario

-F-Zero

-DKC remade in 1080p or a new DKC

-Some new IP

-Super smash bros bundle with 3DS + Wii U version

-games

-more games

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#47  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@Bigboi500 said:

They better go all out this E3, or their console days are done.

And boy, will that get worse from there on in when that happens.

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#48  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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I really would like to be surprised with a new Zelda or something, maybe some new IP's.

No more 3ds shit please. Give people a reason to want a WiiU. Either that or slash it's throat right here and now and tease a new system.

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#49  Edited By no-scope-AK47
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

Unless Nintendo has a wii u with no pad for 200 consider this e3 the death rattle of the wii u. Even MS has dumped the dead weight and dropped the price of the xflop.

There is a major difference between dropping the Kinect and dropping the Pad.

I call bullshit on this MS said the same thing and in 6 months oh shit the x180 has no kinect and cost 400 bucks. Now Nintendo has 2 next gen consoles at 400 with the wii u at 300. You also have the ps3 and 360 selling at 200 with way more games and similar graphics with much improved online gaming.

Nintendo is pretty much screwed unless they drop the price of the wii u to 200 bucks.

Kinect = OPTIONAL

Wii Pad = Mandatory. Taking it out requires one hell of a patch, but besides that, is shooting themselves in the foot.

In case you were asleep the past year MS said that the x1 could not work without the kinect. Guess what oh shit suddenly it not only works without it now there is a sku coming june 9th for 400 with NOOOOO kinect. To my knowledge all the wii u games work with the pro controller and even if some don't they are few and could be patched.

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#50  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@no-scope-AK47 said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

Unless Nintendo has a wii u with no pad for 200 consider this e3 the death rattle of the wii u. Even MS has dumped the dead weight and dropped the price of the xflop.

There is a major difference between dropping the Kinect and dropping the Pad.

I call bullshit on this MS said the same thing and in 6 months oh shit the x180 has no kinect and cost 400 bucks. Now Nintendo has 2 next gen consoles at 400 with the wii u at 300. You also have the ps3 and 360 selling at 200 with way more games and similar graphics with much improved online gaming.

Nintendo is pretty much screwed unless they drop the price of the wii u to 200 bucks.

Kinect = OPTIONAL

Wii Pad = Mandatory. Taking it out requires one hell of a patch, but besides that, is shooting themselves in the foot.

In case you were asleep the past year MS said that the x1 could not work without the kinect. Guess what oh shit suddenly it not only works without it now there is a sku coming june 9th for 400 with NOOOOO kinect. To my knowledge all the wii u games work with the pro controller.

Did you need Kinect to move through the damn menu? Was Kinect needed to start every f***ing game in the XBONE library?

Nintendo Land needs the Wii U controller. Rayman Legends needs the Wii U controller. Even Deus Ex needs the Wii U controller. I'm sure I'm missing a lot more, but still, having games like that pretty much help confirm that killing the Wii U pad is a disaster waiting to happen.