it's official ,We will remember this generartion as the "Wii era "

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN , this war is overrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!

Dragon Quest X (main series) goes back home to nintendo

2.04 m consoles sold in 1 month in north america alone

p.sexpect an avalanche of announcements of 3rd party support and their high profile games on the wii for the next 2-3 years ..

Yep, it'll be remembered as the first generation in the history of the industry that the console that sold by far the most came in dead last place when it comes to games quality. For the first time ever the console that is killing in sales has by far the least AAA's and AA's. First time for everything I guess, and I agree that it'll be remembered for it. Imagine if the PS2 had sold what it did but had less AAA's and AA's than either the XBox and GC.

Good luck with the whole 'avalanche' of high profile games on the Wii ever happening.cablemodemx2

Hey, like the TC said, just... uh... wait... 3 years!

Perfectly reasonable.

It'll only take the Wii 5 years to come close to getting up to speed. Sounds great! By the time its library starts to get close to the 360 or the PS3 it'll be competing with the PS7 and the XBox 9,000.

By the time this generatio is over the Wii will most likely have less than half the number of AA's and AAA's that either the PS3 or 360 have yet it'll likely have around 4 times the sales. Crazy, this generation is completely odd.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN , this war is overrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!

Dragon Quest X (main series) goes back home to nintendo

2.04 m consoles sold in 1 month in north america alone

p.sexpect an avalanche of announcements of 3rd party support and their high profile games on the wii for the next 2-3 years ..

Kakarot00769

Ya right

Yep, it'll be remembered as the first generation in the history of the industry that the console that sold by far the most came in dead last place when it comes to games quality. For the first time ever the console that is killing in sales has by far the least AAA's and AA's. First time for everything I guess, and I agree that it'll be remembered for it. Imagine if the PS2 had sold what it did but had less AAA's and AA's than either the XBox and GC.

RuprechtMonkey

That was the PS1

So I'll basically look back on this generation and be overly disappointed? Kind of sad.-RPGamer-

I'm already am disappointed with this generation. It's the one that spawned all that crappy emo music.

Seriously, I have no idea why people play the Wii. Am I alone on this? Do Wii fans have some part of their brains removed so they think they're in Disneyland 24/7?

The world might look back at this as the Wii era ...gamers won't.mr_mozilla

I couldn't have said that better. What people are failing to see is console sales don't matter - it has been, and always HAS been, the software.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

Yep, it'll be remembered as the first generation in the history of the industry that the console that sold by far the most came in dead last place when it comes to games quality. For the first time ever the console that is killing in sales has by far the least AAA's and AA's. First time for everything I guess, and I agree that it'll be remembered for it. Imagine if the PS2 had sold what it did but had less AAA's and AA's than either the XBox and GC.

DaBrainz

That was the PS1

Uh, what? The PS1 had more AAA's and AA's than the N64 or the Saturn, by far.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

Yep, it'll be remembered as the first generation in the history of the industry that the console that sold by far the most came in dead last place when it comes to games quality. For the first time ever the console that is killing in sales has by far the least AAA's and AA's. First time for everything I guess, and I agree that it'll be remembered for it. Imagine if the PS2 had sold what it did but had less AAA's and AA's than either the XBox and GC.

RuprechtMonkey

That was the PS1

Uh, what? The PS1 had more AAA's and AA's than the N64 or the Saturn, by far.

Except N64 and Saturn AAA's were actually good while PS1 AAA's were dumbed down CGI movie cutscene loadtime buttstinkers.

Denial is such a comforting thing for all these people who deny the Wii is doing well in all area's.Dibdibdobdobo

FACT: The Wii has the least AAA's and AA's, despite being by far the sales leader.

What's to deny?

Denial is such a comforting thing for all these people who deny the Wii is doing well in all area's. Carry on people, Carry on... So far next year the Wii has a very strong 3rd party support, Will have some good 1st party support, Has Motion + coming out for it. PS: And watch more companies support Nintendo next year than PS3/360! Recession has a funny way of affecting companies just ask Sony.Dibdibdobdobo

Recession effects ALL companies in the business. Last time I checked, both Nintendo and Sony were based in Japan. People said Nintendo was going to have strong 3rd-party support THIS year. The fact that you had to say that admits that software for the Wii has been sub-par.

All its done is sold units, the game library which is the whole reason to buy a gaming console, is lackluster featuring probably less than 10 titles people over the age of 18 would like. So no I won't be referring to it as the wii era, sorry. hopesfall2own

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

That was the PS1

DaBrainz

Uh, what? The PS1 had more AAA's and AA's than the N64 or the Saturn, by far.

Except N64 and Saturn AAA's were actually good while PS1 AAA's were dumbed down CGI movie cutscene loadtime buttstinkers.

LOL, alright? I don't even know what means, but OK.

The Tekkens, GT's, RE's, MGS's, Chrono Cross, Xenogears, Spyros, Tony Hawk games, FF games, etc. all are killer games.

Your notion of what the PS1 is is ridiculous. Congratualtions! Feel free to swing by GR and enlighten yourself.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]Denial is such a comforting thing for all these people who deny the Wii is doing well in all area's.RuprechtMonkey

FACT: The Wii has the least AAA's and AA's, despite being by far the sales leader.

What's to deny?

well in your case you might deny that exclusives matter, if you compare the libraries exclusively speaking doesn't it make the competition look even worse?

i mean.. if gears 2 goes to pc.. doesn't that make like 1 exclusive 360 game this holiday season? 09 doesnt look any better for the "hardcore" leader

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]Denial is such a comforting thing for all these people who deny the Wii is doing well in all area's.RuprechtMonkey

FACT: The Wii has the least AAA's and AA's, despite being by far the sales leader.

What's to deny?

*cough*

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]Denial is such a comforting thing for all these people who deny the Wii is doing well in all area's.voxware00

FACT: The Wii has the least AAA's and AA's, despite being by far the sales leader.

What's to deny?

well in your case you might deny that exclusives matter, if you compare the libraries exclusively speaking doesn't it make the competition look even worse?

i mean.. if gears 2 goes to pc.. doesn't that make like 1 exclusive 360 game this holiday season?

This might shock you, but having Gears 2 on the PC wouldn't make the 360 version any worse or any less valuable as a library asset.

My favorite game this year has been Fallout 3. Would it had been better if it was only on the 360? Of course not.

You won't find anyone that would trade 5 superb AAA multiplats for 1 AAAE.

[QUOTE="voxware00"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

FACT: The Wii has the least AAA's and AA's, despite being by far the sales leader.

What's to deny?

RuprechtMonkey

well in your case you might deny that exclusives matter, if you compare the libraries exclusively speaking doesn't it make the competition look even worse?

i mean.. if gears 2 goes to pc.. doesn't that make like 1 exclusive 360 game this holiday season?

This might shock you, but having Gears 2 on the PC wouldn't make the 360 version any worse or any less valuable as a library asset.

My favorite game this year has been Fallout 3. Would it had been better if it was only on the 360? Of course not.

haha just as i predicted

trust me, it makes the library MUCH less sweet when i could just opt for the same game but $10 cheaper on pc

would the 360s library had been better if it were the only system with fallout 3? well.. i'll let you deny that since that's your job

"You won't find anyone that would trade 5 superb AAA multiplats for 1 AAAE."

trust me, i'd rather one superb AAAE than 5 multiplat AAAs...not for the sake of the games but for the sake of the system.. i'd rather show support for original IPs that take a risk with exclusivity than the annual turd churned out by the game factory robot

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]All its done is sold units, the game library which is the whole reason to buy a gaming console, is lackluster featuring probably less than 10 titles people over the age of 18 would like. So no I won't be referring to it as the wii era, sorry. Dibdibdobdobo

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]All its done is sold units, the game library which is the whole reason to buy a gaming console, is lackluster featuring probably less than 10 titles people over the age of 18 would like. So no I won't be referring to it as the wii era, sorry. hopesfall2own

you sound like you have some personal insecurities, maybe you need to stop caring about target demographics

my 30 yr old brother and his wife play mario kart, doesn't stop him from enjoying a good pc fps every now and then.. he still has his dignity

i never knew protagonists had to be relevant to the player or that the only real adult games are challenging games with online

stupid me for playing gunbound for all of these years.. you don't know what skill is until you play gunbound or a pc rts

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]Denial is such a comforting thing for all these people who deny the Wii is doing well in all area's. Carry on people, Carry on... So far next year the Wii has a very strong 3rd party support, Will have some good 1st party support, Has Motion + coming out for it. PS: And watch more companies support Nintendo next year than PS3/360! Recession has a funny way of affecting companies just ask Sony.dr_octagon

Recession effects ALL companies in the business. Last time I checked, both Nintendo and Sony were based in Japan. People said Nintendo was going to have strong 3rd-party support THIS year. The fact that you had to say that admits that software for the Wii has been sub-par.

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] LMAO@ You. A gamer "REAL" gamer will play anything. A game which is ultra-violent like Gears of War, Resident Evil and will also play a ultra-cute and colorful game like Mario Galaxy, Little Big Planet.... A real Gamer does not care about what rating a game is but cares about Gameplay. If you think that a rating on a game makes it good because it has 18 on it then your just a kid who isnt a real gamer but more of a "OMG'z I've played GTA4 Ndz Killed trillionz uf People". Damn worst excuse ever for not liking a game.voxware00

you sound like you have some personal insecurities, maybe you need to stop caring about target demographics

my 30 yr old brother and his wife play mario kart, doesn't stop him from enjoying a good pc fps every now and then.. he still has his dignity

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]Denial is such a comforting thing for all these people who deny the Wii is doing well in all area's.RuprechtMonkey

FACT: The Wii has the least AAA's and AA's, despite being by far the sales leader.

What's to deny?

*cough*

Allow me

The PS3, 360, and PC have all done a fine job fighting over who has the most multiplats and who has the best graphics. That said, having more than one of these 3 systems is redundant and in my opinion the PC is by far superior in all catagories.

Now since the Wii is a unique console, it offers a good line-up of games that are unique and are not available on other systems.

So it is said that to get the most out of this generation without buying every single system, you should pick one system from catagory 1) PS3, 360, or PC; one system from catagory 2) Wii (its the only system in this catagory); and one system from catagory 3)PSP or DS.

As you can see, there is no reason to not own a Wii unless you can only afford one system(nothing wrong with that) but in that case you only own one system so you are going to miss out on a ton of games anyway.

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] LMAO@ You. A gamer "REAL" gamer will play anything. A game which is ultra-violent like Gears of War, Resident Evil and will also play a ultra-cute and colorful game like Mario Galaxy, Little Big Planet.... A real Gamer does not care about what rating a game is but cares about Gameplay. If you think that a rating on a game makes it good because it has 18 on it then your just a kid who isnt a real gamer but more of a "OMG'z I've played GTA4 Ndz Killed trillionz uf People". Damn worst excuse ever for not liking a game.voxware00

you sound like you have some personal insecurities, maybe you need to stop caring about target demographics

my 30 yr old brother and his wife play mario kart, doesn't stop him from enjoying a good pc fps every now and then.. he still has his dignity

The Wii era...Yeah. I'll never forget how Nintendo screwed up such a promising concept. I'll never buy another Nintendo console after this.heretrix

Yeah so i can't believe the wii is selling like crazy, damn you nintendo, you put hipnotic chips into that little white box...Sad really, i don't like the wii tbh, just cuz it doesn't have....i'll say it...real hard core games, sorry wii lovers, don't flame it it's just my opinion :)

[QUOTE="voxware00"]

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"] Uh you are wrong everywhere. I played mario kart when I was 10, no way in hell I still want to play it now and its barely changed after all these years. Never liked mario. And how many 18 yr+ people you think really play LBP or GTA seriously? GTA is aimed at teenagers that want to feel like they are doing something wrong to make their parents mad. Sorry but I'm not a kid and that's why I don't own a Wii. I do no care to wave a stick around pretending i'm sword fighting. Sorry that I like games that actually challenge me and have competition online. It doesn't need to be ultra violent to get my attention, but it can't be some freaking cartoon character or emo kid in 90% of the games offered like the Wii. hopesfall2own

you sound like you have some personal insecurities, maybe you need to stop caring about target demographics

my 30 yr old brother and his wife play mario kart, doesn't stop him from enjoying a good pc fps every now and then.. he still has his dignity

no, you're insecure because you lump all quirky colorful games into one category of "kid games" or "trash games"

like i said, play gunbound, then talk to me about playing challenging games

honestly the attitude you have demonstrated illustrates to me that you need professional help for your issues, not every game needs to be realistic in order for it to appeal to adults, i'm an adult and i hate most realistic games.. i find the medium excells when it is portraying surrealism or escapism

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]All its done is sold units, the game library which is the whole reason to buy a gaming console, is lackluster featuring probably less than 10 titles people over the age of 18 would like. So no I won't be referring to it as the wii era, sorry. hopesfall2own

You make a good point, but there's no reason to talk smack about an extremely good game. If you want to bring up a crappy game, talk about Bioshock. Yeah 90% of the Wii games are targeted at kids, emo people, and tennagers. The same thing happened with Star Wars: The Phantom Menace - The company lost sight of who it's fans are and decided to make something overly cute to appeal to everyone. The Wii was designed by a commitee - "let's try to appeal to everyone for great sales penetration"

[QUOTE="dr_octagon"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]Denial is such a comforting thing for all these people who deny the Wii is doing well in all area's. Carry on people, Carry on... So far next year the Wii has a very strong 3rd party support, Will have some good 1st party support, Has Motion + coming out for it. PS: And watch more companies support Nintendo next year than PS3/360! Recession has a funny way of affecting companies just ask Sony.Dibdibdobdobo

Recession effects ALL companies in the business. Last time I checked, both Nintendo and Sony were based in Japan. People said Nintendo was going to have strong 3rd-party support THIS year. The fact that you had to say that admits that software for the Wii has been sub-par.

[QUOTE="dr_octagon"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]Denial is such a comforting thing for all these people who deny the Wii is doing well in all area's. Carry on people, Carry on... So far next year the Wii has a very strong 3rd party support, Will have some good 1st party support, Has Motion + coming out for it. PS: And watch more companies support Nintendo next year than PS3/360! Recession has a funny way of affecting companies just ask Sony.Dibdibdobdobo

Recession effects ALL companies in the business. Last time I checked, both Nintendo and Sony were based in Japan. People said Nintendo was going to have strong 3rd-party support THIS year. The fact that you had to say that admits that software for the Wii has been sub-par.

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm so new here that I read gaming magazines. Gaming magazine in which Nintendo promised big things for 2008. I have no idea what context you are talking about.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="dr_octagon"]

Recession effects ALL companies in the business. Last time I checked, both Nintendo and Sony were based in Japan. People said Nintendo was going to have strong 3rd-party support THIS year. The fact that you had to say that admits that software for the Wii has been sub-par.

dr_octagon

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm so new here that I read gaming magazines. Gaming magazine in which Nintendo promised big things for 2008. I have no idea what context you are talking about.

i think some people need to give nintendo credit for their early 08, so soon we forget

yes they have the weakest late 08, as undeniable as the fact that MS has the weakest 09 entirely period

but they were the only people to release games during a general period of drought, mario kart and smash followed by the success of wii fit as well as third parties like blast works, the superior version of PES, the original ip AAAE NMH, original ip boom blox and AAA world of goo

exclusively speaking, if gears 2 goes to pc, doesn't that mean the wii got 2 AAAE this year and 360 got.. banjo, omg a colorful game for children

can't say i regret buying a wii, though my 360 had its cd rom drive and hdd die at the same time so yeah.. i do regret my 360 purchase

i think some people need to give nintendo credit for their early 08, so soon we forget

yes they have the weakest late 08, as undeniable as the fact that MS has the weakest 09 entirely period

but they were the only people to release games during a general period of drought, mario kart and smash followed by the success of wii fit as well as third parties like blast works, the superior version of PES, the original ip AAAE NMH, original ip boom blox and AAA world of goo

exclusively speaking, if gears 2 goes to pc, doesn't that mean the wii got 2 AAAE this year and 360 got.. banjo, omg a colorful game for children

can't say i regret buying a wii, though my 360 had its cd rom drive and hdd die at the same time so yeah.. i do regret my 360 purchasevoxware00

Wait...hold on a second. Did someone on Gamespot Forums just acknowledge that I made point? THAT IS INSANE! I'm going to have to celebrate this achievement.

You just displayed excellent skills as a debater.

Yeah, I also regret my 360 purchase sometimes, having it start to overheat the week before the warranty expired (2 blinking red lights) But it didn't have anything to do with the game roster. That, I have no complaints about. Except I want MGS4.

Arguing 'gaming exclusives' is a moot point unless you have all 4 available systems. Take into account people (like me) who could care less what gets ported to the PC. That's actually alot of people.

[QUOTE="voxware00"]

i think some people need to give nintendo credit for their early 08, so soon we forget

yes they have the weakest late 08, as undeniable as the fact that MS has the weakest 09 entirely period

but they were the only people to release games during a general period of drought, mario kart and smash followed by the success of wii fit as well as third parties like blast works, the superior version of PES, the original ip AAAE NMH, original ip boom blox and AAA world of goo

exclusively speaking, if gears 2 goes to pc, doesn't that mean the wii got 2 AAAE this year and 360 got.. banjo, omg a colorful game for children

can't say i regret buying a wii, though my 360 had its cd rom drive and hdd die at the same time so yeah.. i do regret my 360 purchasedr_octagon

Wait...hold on a second. Did someone on Gamespot Forums just acknowledge that I made point? THAT IS INSANE! I'm going to have to celebrate this achievement.

You just displayed excellent skills as a debater.

Yeah, I also regret my 360 purchase sometimes, having it start to overheat the week before the warranty expired (2 blinking red lights) But it didn't have anything to do with the game roster. That, I have no complaints about. Except I want MGS4.

Arguing 'gaming exclusives' is a moot point unless you have all 4 available systems. Take into account people (like me) who could care less what gets ported to the PC. That's actually alot of people.

well to me i judge a systems value pretty much on exclusives since i've always built my own pc

the wii really stands out with its own library whereas i could play and pretty much beat most games on friends systems or my pc

for the record i've never personally owned a nintendo console before, i've always been on the opposite side flaming nintendo so i'm not always one to cut them slack but i just feel the wii gets a lot of undeserved hate when considering the amount of software nintendo has produced so far.. which explains their weak 08 because they've pretty much exhausted their first run franchises already.. 09 looks like the third party really starts picking up the slack though