Is the xbox one really beating the xbox 360 by much.?

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#1 tormentos
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So by an estimate the xbox one issay to have at least 18 million units sold,which many have deny and try to claim it sold more but without actual proof,now others have use the 18 million number as some proof that the xbox one is considerably outselling the xbox 360 in the same time frame.

Boy the reality is further from the truth and what i am about to post would explain why MS is not releasing numbers really.

Last month's full retail sales figures haven't been tallied just yet, but Microsoft today gave number-hungry gamers a few morsels to tide them over. Calling its Xbox 360 the industry leader "hands down," Microsoft announced that it had sold 17.7 million systems worldwide.

The Xbox 360's biggest game to date also received a sales update, as Microsoft revealed that it had sold 8.1 million copies of Halo 3 since its September release. Combined with the hardware base, this suggests that nearly 46 percent of Xbox 360 owners have purchased a copy of the Bungie-developed shooter.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ms-177-million-360s-sold/1100-6184291/

The xbox 360 sold as of December 31 2007 it sold 17.7 million units basically 300k shy of the 18 million the xbox one was reveal now,this will explain why MS has being so lip tied about xbox one sales,they are basically spot on the xbox 360 wasn't selling that hot for the first 2 years,not only that if you take into account that the xbox 360 had a shortage for 5 months,that had no bundles with free hot games,even less 2 games with a $50 gift card,and didn't have $200 in price drops in the first 2 years it make the xbox one 300k lead seem like nothing and does make the xbox one look stale,the xbox one should be outdoing those 360 numbers considerable without problems with all those freebies and price drops.

Also Halo 3 sold 8.1 million copies in 3 months,Halo 5 is not even halfway there on a user base which is 300k bigger than the xbox 360 one.

I think irrefutable now that the xbox one and xbox 360 basically are neck and neck.

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#2 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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No one can answer that question. MS isn't giving sales numbers so it's a pointless debate. They said it was outselling the Xbox 360 at the same time frame and they know better than all of us. Eitherway, it's selling well and on pace to sell just as much or even more than the 360 so doesn't really matter, it's a successful console thus far.

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#3  Edited By BobRossPerm
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According to VGChartz, the One is selling at about the same rate as the PS3 world wide, which actually sold faster than the 360 all through it's life.

PS3: 19,256,394 (Dec 27th 2008) http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/39810/Global/

Xbox One: 19,165,826 (Dec 26th 2015) http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/42365/Global/

(Right hand side ''Global Hardware by platform'')

That's vgchartz so don't hold it as bible, but it's something to go on. But yeah, it's outpacing the 360 I'd bet.

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Only MS can answer all the questions but guess what? they are hiding them big time like a bunch of cowards lel

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@tormentos said:

So by an estimate the xbox one issay to have at least 18 million units sold,which many have deny and try to claim it sold more but without actual proof,now others have use the 18 million number as some proof that the xbox one is considerably outselling the xbox 360 in the same time frame.

Lol, where is the proof that the 18 million number is correct? You mean the unnamed source of ZDNET? Yeah great proof...

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#6 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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I don't get why this is on your mind day and night when you clearly don't like the Xbox and you don't even have concrete proof on anything lol. It can be 18 million, 19 million, 20 million....who knows lol.

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-looks at who wrote the article- HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ok I know how this will end.

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#8  Edited By deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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@davem1992 said:

-looks at who wrote the article- HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ok I know how this will end.

Very badly.......his fanboy senses are tingling right now.

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I don't get why this is on your mind day and night when you clearly don't like the Xbox and you don't even have concrete proof on anything lol. It can be 18 million, 19 million, 20 million....who knows lol.

Seriously. Does he stay up at night thinking of ways to discredit anything and everything MS? Why is he so obsessed with MS in the 1st place?

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@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@davem1992 said:

-looks at who wrote the article- HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ok I know how this will end.

Very badly.......his fanboy senses are tingling right now.

What he needs to grasp that even IF the Xbox One wasn't beating the 360 by much (not saying it isn't cause we know it is), it's still positive for MS in the long run even if he doesn't want to acknowledge it.

You seem like a cool guy now that we talk more civilly.

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#11 lostrib
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Why did I even try reading that?

PS4 is still killing it so what do you care

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#12 davem1992
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@kingtito: Don't get me wrong I prefer Sony ALOT more than MS (their games just appeal to me more) but he needs to accept that the ONE outselling the 360 in general is a positive thing for MS.

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@tormentos said:

So by an estimate the xbox one issay to have at least 18 million units sold,which many have deny and try to claim it sold more but without actual proof,now others have use the 18 million number as some proof that the xbox one is considerably outselling the xbox 360 in the same time frame.

Boy the reality is further from the truth and what i am about to post would explain why MS is not releasing numbers really.

Last month's full retail sales figures haven't been tallied just yet, but Microsoft today gave number-hungry gamers a few morsels to tide them over. Calling its Xbox 360 the industry leader "hands down," Microsoft announced that it had sold 17.7 million systems worldwide.

The Xbox 360's biggest game to date also received a sales update, as Microsoft revealed that it had sold 8.1 million copies of Halo 3 since its September release. Combined with the hardware base, this suggests that nearly 46 percent of Xbox 360 owners have purchased a copy of the Bungie-developed shooter.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ms-177-million-360s-sold/1100-6184291/

The xbox 360 sold as of December 31 2007 it sold 17.7 million units basically 300k shy of the 18 million the xbox one was reveal now,this will explain why MS has being so lip tied about xbox one sales,they are basically spot on the xbox 360 wasn't selling that hot for the first 2 years,not only that if you take into account that the xbox 360 had a shortage for 5 months,that had no bundles with free hot games,even less 2 games with a $50 gift card,and didn't have $200 in price drops in the first 2 years it make the xbox one 300k lead seem like nothing and does make the xbox one look stale,the xbox one should be outdoing those 360 numbers considerable without problems with all those freebies and price drops.

Also Halo 3 sold 8.1 million copies in 3 months,Halo 5 is not even halfway there on a user base which is 300k bigger than the xbox 360 one.

I think irrefutable now that the xbox one and xbox 360 basically are neck and neck.

I would say they are about the same to be honest, the PS4 is pulling a Wii.

the Xbone will do as well as the 360 did last gen but the Ps4 is killing it this gen, it's like a cheetah dosed up on steroids.

I am just really glad SONY got there shit together, love them or hate them the industry would not be the same without them.

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You do know that last-gen consoles are still being supported right?

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@davem1992 said:
@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@davem1992 said:

-looks at who wrote the article- HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ok I know how this will end.

Very badly.......his fanboy senses are tingling right now.

What he needs to grasp that even IF the Xbox One wasn't beating the 360 by much (not saying it isn't cause we know it is), it's still positive for MS in the long run even if he doesn't want to acknowledge it.

You seem like a cool guy now that we talk more civilly.

I've always been a cool person, just don't have the tolerance for short sighted, closed mind people that only look at things in one way.

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@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@davem1992 said:
@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@davem1992 said:

-looks at who wrote the article- HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ok I know how this will end.

Very badly.......his fanboy senses are tingling right now.

What he needs to grasp that even IF the Xbox One wasn't beating the 360 by much (not saying it isn't cause we know it is), it's still positive for MS in the long run even if he doesn't want to acknowledge it.

You seem like a cool guy now that we talk more civilly.

I've always been a cool person, just don't have the tolerance for short sighted, closed mind people that only look at things in one way.

I feel the same, there are a few users on this site that I find just unbearable really.

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I thought it was almost 18 million in the US alone by Dec 2007, not worlwide.

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Why do you always put a question mark after a period?

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#20  Edited By Douevenlift_bro
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When MS stops hiding Xbone numbers maybe we'll know lol. Its so against character for MS to be humble about ANYTHING. I mean these guys will announce number of kills in Halo LMAO. But for some reason, refuse to release bones numbers....

I wonder why.....?

FLOP lol.

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As Gaf pointed out, there were 18 million Windows 10 activations on Xbox One. Microsoft has stated that over 30% of their Xbox owners don't even go online, leading to a sell through of closer to 23 million.

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#22 kvally
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@tormentos said:

Also Halo 3 sold 8.1 million copies in 3 months,Halo 5 is not even halfway there on a user base which is 300k bigger than the xbox 360 one.

Microsoft hasn't released Halo 5 sales numbers.

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#23 tormentos
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Wow attack attack no counter argument and vgchartz as source. lol

So non of you can prove me wrong.?

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#24  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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Anyone who believes xbone is actually a more successful product than the 360 are deluded as hell.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: Yep, only deluded lems think the Xbone is more successful than 360. If it was MS wouldn't be too embarrassed to share numbers.

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#26  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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@tormentos: Aaaand it is you who's flogging the bishop to PS4 every day.

You are like Randy Marsh of the forum.

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#27  Edited By kvally
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Anyone who believes xbone is actually a more successful product than the 360 are deluded as hell.

We all think you are pretty whack. Your history here is pretty telling.

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@tormentos said:

Wow attack attack no counter argument and vgchartz as source. lol

So non of you can prove me wrong.?

Where is the actual proof about the 18mil? A ZDNET source isn't proof.

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@FastRobby said:
@tormentos said:

Wow attack attack no counter argument and vgchartz as source. lol

So non of you can prove me wrong.?

Where is the actual proof about the 18mil? A ZDNET source isn't proof.

Until M$ stops being embarrassed by their pathetically low sales numbers 18 million can't be proven wrong.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@FastRobby said:
@tormentos said:

Wow attack attack no counter argument and vgchartz as source. lol

So non of you can prove me wrong.?

Where is the actual proof about the 18mil? A ZDNET source isn't proof.

Until M$ stops being embarrassed by their pathetically low sales numbers 18 million can't be proven wrong.

Can't be proven right either.

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Can't be proven right either.

Innocent until proven guilty.

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@tormentos said:

Wow attack attack no counter argument and vgchartz as source. lol

So non of you can prove me wrong.?

You also haven't proven yourself right, so the result is a draw.

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@davillain- said:
@MonsieurX said:

Can't be proven right either.

Innocent until proven guilty.

So I could claim 30 millions X1 sold,since no source can disprove me.

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@tormentos said:

Wow attack attack no counter argument and vgchartz as source. lol

So non of you can prove me wrong.?

Nope, no one can prove you wrong, but what have you proven.

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What can be proved is the Microsoft shipped 10 million or so X1s those are the last official numbers.

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Who fucking cares?

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@clone01: you must? You read this and posted here. Congrats.

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@clone01: you must? You read this and posted here. Congrats.

As in I must care? No. The acknowledgement of a stupid thread does not indicate that I would. That's a silly step of logic on your part. Let me ask you this. You are responding in this thread. Do you truly, really care about the sales of said plastic toys? I'm guessing if you do, you either have a vested interest in their stock or don't really have a great deal of things to do to occupy your time. Might I suggest gaming?

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@FastRobby said:
@tormentos said:

Wow attack attack no counter argument and vgchartz as source. lol

So non of you can prove me wrong.?

Where is the actual proof about the 18mil? A ZDNET source isn't proof.

Until M$ stops being embarrassed by their pathetically low sales numbers 18 million can't be proven wrong.

Lol, that's no logic...

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@FastRobby said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@FastRobby said:
@tormentos said:

Wow attack attack no counter argument and vgchartz as source. lol

So non of you can prove me wrong.?

Where is the actual proof about the 18mil? A ZDNET source isn't proof.

Until M$ stops being embarrassed by their pathetically low sales numbers 18 million can't be proven wrong.

Lol, that's no logic...

Better than M$ logic.

A trillion zombies have been killed in Dead Rising 3 since launch XBONE WINS!!

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@clone01 said:
@kvally said:

@clone01: you must? You read this and posted here. Congrats.

As in I must care? No. The acknowledgement of a stupid thread does not indicate that I would. That's a silly step of logic on your part. Let me ask you this. You are responding in this thread. Do you truly, really care about the sales of said plastic toys? I'm guessing if you do, you either have a vested interest in their stock or don't really have a great deal of things to do to occupy your time. Might I suggest gaming?

If you didn't care even in the slightest bit, why did you even click the link? It's a Tormentos thread, everyone with more than 7 posts knows what to expect in this thread.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: $ony wins by moneyhatting black ops and still sells less lol. That $ony $alt

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@kvally said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: $ony wins by moneyhatting black ops and still sells less lol. That $ony $alt

Sold less? PS4 is outselling xbone over 2:1. Stay salty my friend.

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A Xbox thread from the biggest most biased cow in SW, this is gonna be great, popcorn is ready like a mufucka.

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@kvally said:

@clone01: you must? You read this and posted here. Congrats.

And look at you, look at us, we all click the thread so what's you're point? Congrats to that.

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#46  Edited By clone01
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@suicidesn0wman said:
@clone01 said:
@kvally said:

@clone01: you must? You read this and posted here. Congrats.

As in I must care? No. The acknowledgement of a stupid thread does not indicate that I would. That's a silly step of logic on your part. Let me ask you this. You are responding in this thread. Do you truly, really care about the sales of said plastic toys? I'm guessing if you do, you either have a vested interest in their stock or don't really have a great deal of things to do to occupy your time. Might I suggest gaming?

If you didn't care even in the slightest bit, why did you even click the link? It's a Tormentos thread, everyone with more than 7 posts knows what to expect in this thread.

Not really. That's still very flawed logic.

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@BigShotSmoov007 said:

I've always been a cool person, just don't have the tolerance for short sighted, closed mind people that only look at things in one way.

No you have short tolerance for people who expose you for what you really are a blind lemming. :)

@kvally said:
@tormentos said:

Also Halo 3 sold 8.1 million copies in 3 months,Halo 5 is not even halfway there on a user base which is 300k bigger than the xbox 360 one.

Microsoft hasn't released Halo 5 sales numbers.

Oh they don't have to already the launch was telling enough.

@kvally said:

As Gaf pointed out, there were 18 million Windows 10 activations on Xbox One. Microsoft has stated that over 30% of their Xbox owners don't even go online, leading to a sell through of closer to 23 million.

I wonder how when all xbox one need an update when you first set them i already link it,in the other thread basically all xbox one have being connected online because is part of the innitial setup.

@FastRobby said:

Where is the actual proof about the 18mil? A ZDNET source isn't proof.

Yeah just like all the leaks source weren't proves that MS had a weak console that require online every 24 hours and blocked used games just like Kinect being drop by another source was wasn't proof either.

I am sure that if it say 25 million you would be all over it hyping it as 100% prove,in this case we all know the XBO hasn't being selling close to the PS4 at all.

@MonsieurX said:

Can't be proven right either.

Yes it can pathetic xbox one sales do prove it,and since you don't have any proof to counter the source yeah it can be proven right more than wrong.

@suicidesn0wman said:

You also haven't proven yourself right, so the result is a draw.

Oh i really did,the link is there 17.7 million xbox 360 vs 18 million xbox one.

What really make this even more sad is the fact that the xbox 360 didn't have $200 shave from its price by the second year nor was sell with free games had a 5 month shortage on launch which the xbox one didn't have.

Number of xbox one sold on From November 2013 to December 31, 3 million from 3.9 shipped.

Number of xbox 360 sold from November 2005 to December 31, 1.5 million units from 1.5 million.

The xbox one more than double the xbox 360 shipments on the first month and a half,but as time pass the xbox one deceleration allowed the 360 to line up very close,oh and those are slow years for the 360,the xbox 360 did pick more steam latter on which i think the one will not pick up as fast specially while losing US.

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#48 suicidesn0wman
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@tormentos said:
@suicidesn0wman said:

You also haven't proven yourself right, so the result is a draw.

Oh i really did,the link is there 17.7 million xbox 360 vs 18 million xbox one.

What really make this even more sad is the fact that the xbox 360 didn't have $200 shave from its price by the second year nor was sell with free games had a 5 month shortage on launch which the xbox one didn't have.

Number of xbox one sold on From November 2013 to December 31, 3 million from 3.9 shipped.

Number of xbox 360 sold from November 2005 to December 31, 1.5 million units from 1.5 million.

The xbox one more than double the xbox 360 shipments on the first month and a half,but as time pass the xbox one deceleration allowed the 360 to line up very close,oh and those are slow years for the 360,the xbox 360 did pick more steam latter on which i think the one will not pick up as fast specially while losing US.

Your proof is pure speculation, which negates it as proof of anything. If the thing you wish to prove is that you moo like a cow and enjoy getting milked, well we already knew that.

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#49 MonsieurX
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@tormentos said:

@MonsieurX said:

Can't be proven right either.

Yes it can pathetic xbox one sales do prove it,and since you don't have any proof to counter the source yeah it can be proven right more than wrong.

Why make a claim if you can't prove\disprove either way?

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#50 kvally
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@tormentos: so much fail in your post