Is the Vita a better system than 3DS and WiiU combined?

In terms of hardware, I find the Vita to be a better-designed game machine than the later two systems.

It has better specs than 3DS and it's screen resolution is higher than that of the WiiU.

It's a fully portable system, it uses cartridges and it's features actually seem appealing rather than gimmicky, if used right.

It also costs considerably less than the WiiU and only slightly more than a 3DS.

It's also combatible with the PS3 and has a sleek design.

The only thing missing is TV output and the analog sticks could be a little bigger.

I think the system would sell much better if it got it's price reduces and if it got more "killer-apps". (why are there still no exclusive Gran Turismo, MGS, GTA and God of War games on Vita?)

It's basically the portable system that eliminates the need for a home console, in some regards.

And that is what I think the platform Nintendo would need is.

Discuss. :D

yes.

And to elaborate on my earlier post: a system is only as good as its games. On that front, the Vita handily bests the four month old Wii U, but is completely and thoroughly outdone by the 3DS.charizard1605

But that is the thing - 3DS is praised because of it's games and lower price, not because of it's features.

In terms of specs and features, the Vita is "head and shoulders" above the 3DS. (unless you want to make a big deal out of the 3D effect)

I mean, the 3DS doesn't even have a 2nd analog stick...

lolnocharizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]And to elaborate on my earlier post: a system is only as good as its games. On that front, the Vita handily bests the four month old Wii U, but is completely and thoroughly outdone by the 3DS.nameless12345

But that is the thing - 3DS is praised because of it's games and lower price, not because of it's features.

In terms of specs and features, the Vita is "head and shoulders" above the 3DS. (unless you want to make a big deal out of the 3D effect)

I mean, the 3DS doesn't even have a 2nd analog stick...

It's not 1/10th as good as the 3DS so how is that possible?

However, the Vita is designed around downloading, but comes with no memory out of the box, and to get the memory, you have to pay $100. Therefore the price of the Vita is pretty much the same as a deluxe Wii U, even more if you are buying the 3G model. Also, the 3DS has a much stronger library of games than the Vita. Also, while the handheld screen resolution may be lower than that of the Vita. The main console graphics can render games in 720p and higher, much greater than that of the Vita's 540p. As you can see there are advantages on both sides of the spectrum.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]And to elaborate on my earlier post: a system is only as good as its games. On that front, the Vita handily bests the four month old Wii U, but is completely and thoroughly outdone by the 3DS.charizard1605

But that is the thing - 3DS is praised because of it's games and lower price, not because of it's features.

In terms of specs and features, the Vita is "head and shoulders" above the 3DS. (unless you want to make a big deal out of the 3D effect)

I mean, the 3DS doesn't even have a 2nd analog stick...

Well the argument in this thread is mainly about the hardware.

The games are prone to subjectivity while a hardware's strenghts are not. (prove me wrong if you can :P )

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

 

But that is the thing - 3DS is praised because of it's games and lower price, not because of it's features.

In terms of specs and features, the Vita is "head and shoulders" above the 3DS. (unless you want to make a big deal out of the 3D effect)

I mean, the 3DS doesn't even have a 2nd analog stick...

nameless12345

Well the argument in this thread is mainly about the hardware.

The games are prone to subjectivity while a hardware's strenghts are not. (prove me wrong if you can :P )

However, the Vita is designed around downloading, but comes with no memory out of the box, and to get the memory, you have to pay $100. Therefore the price of the Vita is pretty much the same as a deluxe Wii U, even more if you are buying the 3G model. Also, the 3DS has a much stronger library of games than the Vita. Also, while the handheld screen resolution may be lower than that of the Vita. The main console graphics can render games in 720p and higher, much greater than that of the Vita's 540p. As you can see there are advantages on both sides of the spectrum.

Link3301

Fair points.

But if you look at it, a portable system like the Vita would be much better off if those issues would be sorted out.

To redesign the 3DS and WiiU, however, would be quite the task.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]And to elaborate on my earlier post: a system is only as good as its games. On that front, the Vita handily bests the four month old Wii U, but is completely and thoroughly outdone by the 3DS.nameless12345

But that is the thing - 3DS is praised because of it's games and lower price, not because of it's features.

In terms of specs and features, the Vita is "head and shoulders" above the 3DS. (unless you want to make a big deal out of the 3D effect)

I mean, the 3DS doesn't even have a 2nd analog stick...

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]And to elaborate on my earlier post: a system is only as good as its games. On that front, the Vita handily bests the four month old Wii U, but is completely and thoroughly outdone by the 3DS.darkspineslayer

But that is the thing - 3DS is praised because of it's games and lower price, not because of it's features.

In terms of specs and features, the Vita is "head and shoulders" above the 3DS. (unless you want to make a big deal out of the 3D effect)

I mean, the 3DS doesn't even have a 2nd analog stick...

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

 

But that is the thing - 3DS is praised because of it's games and lower price, not because of it's features.

In terms of specs and features, the Vita is "head and shoulders" above the 3DS. (unless you want to make a big deal out of the 3D effect)

I mean, the 3DS doesn't even have a 2nd analog stick...

charizard1605

Persona 4 Golden is better than anything on the 3ds. 

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] By features, do you mean things like the music player and web browser. Because nobody else gives a sh*t about those features. They have iPods for that.russiaAK47

Persona 4 Golden is better than anything on the 3ds. 

The 3DS is arguably the better system out of the three.

[QUOTE="russiaAK47"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] And the 3DS has those exact same features toocharizard1605

Persona 4 Golden is better than anything on the 3ds. 

every review site has persona 4 golden better.  its better, i know fire emblem has a cool story and stuff, but if you ever played P4G it just destroys Fire emblem awakening in every category.  the story is original and interesting

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="russiaAK47"]

Persona 4 Golden is better than anything on the 3ds. 

russiaAK47

every review site has persona 4 golden better.  its better, i know fire emblem has a cool story and stuff, but if you ever played P4G it just destroys Fire emblem awakening in every category.  the story is original and interesting

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

 

But that is the thing - 3DS is praised because of it's games and lower price, not because of it's features.

In terms of specs and features, the Vita is "head and shoulders" above the 3DS. (unless you want to make a big deal out of the 3D effect)

I mean, the 3DS doesn't even have a 2nd analog stick...

charizard1605

Does the 3DS have a proper music player? I got the XL the day it came out and never noticed :P. It still wins out for me as it has a fantastic selection of games and the only thing that interests me on Vita is P4G (never played a persona game before but it looks really interesting). I may get a Vita when the price goes down but I think thats a while off.

P.S. Charizard what happened to your new account? Are you back on this one?

In terms of hardware, I find the Vita to be a better-designed game machine than the later two systems.

It has better specs than 3DS and it's screen resolution is higher than that of the WiiU.

It's a fully portable system, it uses cartridges and it's features actually seem appealing rather than gimmicky, if used right.

It also costs considerably less than the WiiU and only slightly more than a 3DS.

It's also combatible with the PS3 and has a sleek design.

The only thing missing is TV output and the analog sticks could be a little bigger.

I think the system would sell much better if it got it's price reduces and if it got more "killer-apps". (why are there still no exclusive Gran Turismo, MGS, GTA and God of War games on Vita?)

It's basically the portable system that eliminates the need for a home console, in some regards.

And that is what I think the platform Nintendo would need is.

 

Discuss. :D

nameless12345

All I have to say about VITA is wait for Soul Sacrifice it will surely boost it sells, then I bet more games will come.

Not sure.freedomfreak

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Not sure.ronvalencia

Please stop making threads.Blabadon

I thought you were pro-Vita? ;) :P

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="russiaAK47"]

Persona 4 Golden is better than anything on the 3ds. 

russiaAK47

every review site has persona 4 golden better.  its better, i know fire emblem has a cool story and stuff, but if you ever played P4G it just destroys Fire emblem awakening in every category.  the story is original and interesting

Vita has better hardware, but I think the clamshell design is much better idea for portable device

lol vitas tech is not better then wiius  ,     vita is slightly less powerful then the older hd twins as it is ,  , 

   the wii u is only 4 months old and already has  quite a line up the only reason it is not selling is that line up like psvita is available elsewhere minus the 6 exclusives   -lego city ,  nintendoland sing party nsmbu zombi u and monster hunter -     wait 7   -that rayman party game,      

    and then again 3rd party games dont move platforms for nintendo , nintendos games do the most of the work so once more come it will be clear wiiu is the better  system in terms of power ,and games,  

the 3ds already is better then vita in terms of games 

[QUOTE="russiaAK47"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Fire Emblem Awakening>>>funsohng

every review site has persona 4 golden better.  its better, i know fire emblem has a cool story and stuff, but if you ever played P4G it just destroys Fire emblem awakening in every category.  the story is original and interesting

pretty much. I don't hate the story in Awakening, but it isn't exactly anything special or noteworthy either, and it does have issues.

[spoiler] How in the flying f*ck did no one know that Lucina was a female before that mask came off? [/spoiler]

lolnocharizard1605

This and, godno.

lolnocharizard1605

every review site has persona 4 golden better.  its better, i know fire emblem has a cool story and stuff, but if you ever played P4G it just destroys Fire emblem awakening in every category.  the story is original and interesting

russiaAK47

Does the 3DS have a proper music player? I got the XL the day it came out and never noticed :P. It still wins out for me as it has a fantastic selection of games and the only thing that interests me on Vita is P4G (never played a persona game before but it looks really interesting). I may get a Vita when the price goes down but I think thats a while off.

 

P.S. Charizard what happened to your new account? Are you back on this one?

John_Coffey

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] By features, do you mean things like the music player and web browser. Because nobody else gives a sh*t about those features. They have iPods for that.russiaAK47

Persona 4 Golden is better than anything on the 3ds. 

the 3ds already is better then vita in terms of games mariokart64fan

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]the 3ds already is better then vita in terms of games p4s2p0

[QUOTE="russiaAK47"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] And the 3DS has those exact same features toocharizard1605

Persona 4 Golden is better than anything on the 3ds. 

from a hardware standpoint the vita has really impressed me. i didnt think i would say this about a sony platform but its actually the more innovative of the two. the back touch surface is a great idea (they should stick it on their tablets). its also the better developed and better thought out system. its not perfect (lack of a clamshell design. no SD card support and the inability to adjust the screen powersave feature for example) but overall its really well thought out and it feels sturdy (something the PSp really lacked). if i was sony i would maybe look into making a 7" and 4" version. in contrast there are parts of the 3DS design where i honestly have no idea what nintendo were thinking. they knew they were getting a monster hunter or 2 on the system so why did they leave out the second stick?. the placement of the stylus is poor and having 2 screens with different aspect ratios looks odd. the build quality is also truly shocking by nintendos usually high standard. compared to the DS lite (a fantastic bit of kit) the 3DS feels flimsy. the bottom screen can cause marks to appear on the top screen and it creeks a lot. I do love that nintendo use off the shelf SD cards though for storage and that they include one with every system. but in many ways it feels like more of a prototype than the DSfat. as media devices both of them are complete crap. the vita a bit less so but both have rubbish browsers and dont even have access to basic stuff like netflix (over here in ireland anyway). neither is a very good music player and vitas youtube app is pretty dire. android and IOS devices have them both completly outclassed. however, as mentioned, when it comes to games the 3DS is without peer in the mobile space. the vita has some great games (gravity rush, everybodys golf, wipeout and so on) but outside of soul sacrefice and tearaway (which are looking great also) its pretty sparse on the vita games front with the PS4 looming i suspect sony wont give the vita much time at E3.osan0

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="russiaAK47"]

Persona 4 Golden is better than anything on the 3ds. 

Xaero_Gravity

[QUOTE="osan0"]from a hardware standpoint the vita has really impressed me. i didnt think i would say this about a sony platform but its actually the more innovative of the two. the back touch surface is a great idea (they should stick it on their tablets). its also the better developed and better thought out system. its not perfect (lack of a clamshell design. no SD card support and the inability to adjust the screen powersave feature for example) but overall its really well thought out and it feels sturdy (something the PSp really lacked). if i was sony i would maybe look into making a 7" and 4" version. in contrast there are parts of the 3DS design where i honestly have no idea what nintendo were thinking. they knew they were getting a monster hunter or 2 on the system so why did they leave out the second stick?. the placement of the stylus is poor and having 2 screens with different aspect ratios looks odd. the build quality is also truly shocking by nintendos usually high standard. compared to the DS lite (a fantastic bit of kit) the 3DS feels flimsy. the bottom screen can cause marks to appear on the top screen and it creeks a lot. I do love that nintendo use off the shelf SD cards though for storage and that they include one with every system. but in many ways it feels like more of a prototype than the DSfat. as media devices both of them are complete crap. the vita a bit less so but both have rubbish browsers and dont even have access to basic stuff like netflix (over here in ireland anyway). neither is a very good music player and vitas youtube app is pretty dire. android and IOS devices have them both completly outclassed. however, as mentioned, when it comes to games the 3DS is without peer in the mobile space. the vita has some great games (gravity rush, everybodys golf, wipeout and so on) but outside of soul sacrefice and tearaway (which are looking great also) its pretty sparse on the vita games front with the PS4 looming i suspect sony wont give the vita much time at E3.-Patrick_92-

lolnocharizard1605