Is System Wars out of touch with E3?

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#1 ZeroTheHero
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Now that the polls rolled around it seems gamers voted Xbox won E3 and Forza Horizon 5 is the most anticipating game.

Judging by system wars PS5 is the console people wanted the most and a game like BOTW 2 is in way more demand around here than a racer like forza.

Are we just an old outa touch bunch of guys or what is happening?

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#2  Edited By WonderWinner
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Funny I saw a bunch of polls where Forza is dead last so it depends on where you're looking.

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#3  Edited By sts106mat
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@wonderwinner said:

Funny I saw a bunch of polls where Forza is dead last so it depends on where you're looking.

lets see em then

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#4 uninspiredcup  Online
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System Wars is always on point. This is widely regarded as the gaming expert forum.

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#5 SecretPolice
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Instead of usual gif for you, we'll go with this...

lol :P

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#6 lamprey263
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No, there is a consistency here. Sony fanboys are salty because Sony didn't attend and Xbox was the belle of the ball, and everyone seems to think Xbox not only had a good showcase, but also one of the best presentations of the event. Those that seem to disagree, not all, but most are just Sony fanboys throwing shade, saying E3 is dated and needs to go, or that it was such a boring year all around, because there was just nothing there that catered to them. Hell, even the once rumored exclusive Final Fantasy Souls-like turned out to be a multiplatform title. All they could do is hide behind the Nintendo presentation and try claiming it was so much more superior of a showing.

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@wonderwinner said:

Funny I saw a bunch of polls where Forza is dead last so it depends on where you're looking.

Link them then.

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@wonderwinner said:

Funny I saw a bunch of polls where Forza is dead last so it depends on where you're looking.

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#9 Telekill
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I'll never play it but what does it matter if people are excited for Forza? Why should that piss anyone off? Hell, best Switch game I saw releasing this year is Crusin Blast. Everyone has a different opinion.

The only thing Forza related that definitely needs work is that box art from the other thread. No cars is weird for a car game.

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#10 jaydan
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System Wars is out-of-touch with mainstream gaming in general.

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#11 Zaryia
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SW in general is out of touch and that's mostly due to Cows. A lot of people here like casual single player movie games from Sony. Meanwhile the most played games are online competitive titles.

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#12 Fedor
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System wars is out of touch and time. But I'm out of my head when it's not around.

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@jaydan said:

System Wars is out-of-touch with mainstream gaming in general.

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#14 sheep99
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MS had a great show but nothing amazing honestly they didn’t show any gameplay of their most anticipated games by fans Halo single player campaign i just don’t care about MP, Starfield and Hellblade 2

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@zerothehero: Lotta cows in SW. I don't think the ratio of cows/lems/sheep is equal anymore - cows make up the biggest clique in SW.

A lot of people need justification and reassurance they bought in to the right platform.

If the roles were reversed, would lems be gracious? I doubt it.

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@wonderwinner said:

Funny I saw a bunch of polls where Forza is dead last so it depends on where you're looking.

Provide links.

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#17 regnaston
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@gym_lion said:
@wonderwinner said:

Funny I saw a bunch of polls where Forza is dead last so it depends on where you're looking.

Link them then.

he doesn't have any links .. unless he is using twitter polls by people like Crapgamer or the Saltiestgamer who are "bash XBOX" type people so they would attract the same type of people

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#18 Renegade_Fury
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Traditional forums comprise of (old) enthusiasts, so we're never going to be inline with the mainstream. Anyway, I thought BF was the most popular game to come out of E3, followed by Riders Republic.

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#19 mrbojangles25
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Yes, if only because probably 99% of the console gaming community doesn't care enough about games to actually post on a forum about them.

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#20 NNoyingHusband
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While Forza is the king of racing, it’s not more anticipated than Halo Infinite/MP, and streaming numbers will show that once they release. Not to knock Forza, I love it, but it won’t compete against Halo.

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#21 Sushiglutton
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I am way out of touch, which I’m ok with. Will never become a ”service” gamer, that’s for sure.

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#22 WonderWinner
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@Renegade_Fury: and it is. But let people above believe what they want. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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#23 UnnDunn
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@fedor: I’m ashamed that I’m apparently the only person here that’s old enough to get that reference. 🙁

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#24 Pedro
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The System Wars have always been out of touched with reality. You can see that in so many posts.

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#25 regnaston
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@wonderwinner: where are these other polls you spoke of???? Inquiring minds want to know

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#26 NathanDrakeSwag
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PS5 is the fastest selling console of all time and BOTW sold more than most Forza games combined so it sounds like System Wars reflects the mass market.

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#27 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

PS5 is the fastest selling console of all time and BOTW sold more than most Forza games combined so it sounds like System Wars reflects the mass market.

Weren't you touting Returnal and it was in 8 place after all that hoopla. 😎

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#28 WonderWinner
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@NathanDrakeSwag: lems really believe Forza is more expected than battlefield. 🤣 These people live in denial.

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#29 Fedor
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@UnnDunn:

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#31 Djoffer123
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@wonderwinner: sooo no polls, just another lie from you? Pathetic..

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#32 WonderWinner
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Seems folks are upset by facts. 🤣

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#33 Fedor
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@wonderwinner said:

Seems folks are upset by facts. 🤣

Why not just link the polls? Don't you want to own the Lems?

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#34 sts106mat
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Blunderloser strikes again

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Lol ... of course we are of touch ... that's the fun part of this place.

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#36 nintendoboy16
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System Wars is just as out of touch as the companies they criticize.

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#37 Djoffer123
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@wonderwinner: “facts”… even for SW you are pretty sad..

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#38 DragonfireXZ95
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Considering how many people here seem to hate multiplayer PVP games, I'd say yes.

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#39 shadyacshuns
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@fedor said:

System wars is out of touch and time. But I'm out of my head when it's not around.

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#40 palasta
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Looking at Forza sales*

Yeawhatever.

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@zaryia said:

SW in general is out of touch and that's mostly due to Cows. A lot of people here like casual single player movie games from Sony. Meanwhile the most played games are online competitive titles.

Forum gamers in general are out of touch. This has always been a theme. Some on here thought that GTA was the highest grossing game in 2018 and that it's the best selling game of all time, which is false.

@dabear said:

@zerothehero: Lotta cows in SW. I don't think the ratio of cows/lems/sheep is equal anymore - cows make up the biggest clique in SW.

A lot of people need justification and reassurance they bought in to the right platform.

If the roles were reversed, would lems be gracious? I doubt it.

Cows dominate forums, which skews perception. They think that people really buy into Sony exclusives like that. Best case scenario for them, the PlayStation buyers might each like one Sony exclusive and use that as a reason to buy it over the Xbox. "I'm mostly going to be playing Fifa and Call of Duty, but God of War looks decent. Screw it, I'll buy the PlayStation." Another likely scenario is that PlayStation is being bought on brand recognition in European countries.

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#43  Edited By ConanTheStoner  Online
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SW just weird. Not in line with the mainstream, but arguably further out of touch with the core audience.

Strong shill game though.

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#44 enzyme36
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Ive never been into racing games... but that Forza trailer looked great. It was like the on ground version of Microsoft Flight Sim.

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#45 onesiphorus
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System Wars and gaming fanboys in general are out of touch in everything outside of their bubble, or better yet, their echo chamber. Their justifications and assurances are typical of a mindset that is unable to be open-minded and think rationally and critically. They treat gaming as a religion or worse yet a cult (religious or ideological) that demands members to think the same, hence why a fanboy of one faction tends to parrot what another fanboy says. Most gamers do not think this way, and I am glad that they do not.

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#46 St_Monica
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Elden Ring was the hottest topic, and its trailer was the most watched on YouTube, but it wasn't counted because it was part of Summer Game Fest, not E3.

The FH5 trailer has less than half the views of the Elden Ring.

FH5 was chosen by a few media outlets such as IGN and GS, not the general public. In other words, a small number of journalists, even more limited than SW, chose it regardless of public expectations.

But anyway, don't lems feel uncomfortable with those journalists expecting this annual racer higher than Halo or Starfield?

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#47  Edited By commander
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@luxuryheart said:

Forum gamers in general are out of touch. This has always been a theme. Some on here thought that GTA was the highest grossing game in 2018 and that it's the best selling game of all time, which is false.

@dabear said:

@zerothehero: Lotta cows in SW. I don't think the ratio of cows/lems/sheep is equal anymore - cows make up the biggest clique in SW.

A lot of people need justification and reassurance they bought in to the right platform.

If the roles were reversed, would lems be gracious? I doubt it.

Cows dominate forums, which skews perception. They think that people really buy into Sony exclusives like that. Best case scenario for them, the PlayStation buyers might each like one Sony exclusive and use that as a reason to buy it over the Xbox. "I'm mostly going to be playing Fifa and Call of Duty, but God of War looks decent. Screw it, I'll buy the PlayStation." Another likely scenario is that PlayStation is being bought on brand recognition in European countries.

Well with gta online, at certain points in time they even beat fifa , even if you count micro transactions. It already sold 145 million copies as well, it's way up there and probably only beat by tetris.

as for the cows, it's only normal we get such a fanbase, the ps4 is the most popular console by far, during the x360 era there was way more competition, even from the wii, and before that nintendo was still a household name for consoles that supported multiplats as well.

A lot of people may have gotten a playstation now, they may have aquired a taste for those moviegames. It's also the reason why I think xbox didn't have such a good e3, a good E3 yes from a cows point of view, that's why you get the damage control.

But from a lem point of view like myself, yeah forza looks great, but xbox is more of a brogamer station, with more emphasis on multiplayer games, this while this e3 was more single player oriented.

@nintendoboy16 said:

System Wars is just as out of touch as the companies they criticize.

that's also why I think this is a very good comment, system wars has always a been a bit out of touch, I mean you get hardcore gamers here mostly, so you will get a lot of support here for things that aren't mainstream, which is a good thing for the gamer that wants something more.

and in the past you certainly had that will from the devs, since those 'alternative' games so to speak sometimes turn up to be big hits.

But with every gen passing that is less and less the case. We are now at call of duty number 17, and get ready for the truckload of remasters with rtx support this gen.

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#48 lundy86_4  Online
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Forum gamers are gonna be far more dedicated than on-and-off gamers, or even casual gamers. There are gonna be differences in opinions. That being said, E3 was shit.

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#49 WitIsWisdom
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No, the problem is that E3 is no longer relevant. Even those who show up don't take it seriously anymore.

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#50  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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Sony didn't take part in E3 so they couldn't have won... But does it mean people aren't hyped for a Playstation 5?

I think Xbox had a good showing. People should be excited about a healthy future for Microsoft in gaming. It'll get Sony to react. And they will.... Because they always do.

To answer the title question though? Yes... System wars is out of touch in many ways about how we argue games, but fanboys gonna fanboy.