Is Steam Deck already obsolete? AYANEO2 announced, with DOUBLE the CPU and GPU power!?

No really, why did Valve go with Zen 2?

https://videocardz.com/newz/ayaneo2-announced-with-ryzen-7-6800u-rembrandt-apu-featuring-rdna2-graphics-twice-as-fast-as-steamdeck

The AYANEO2 console will undoubtedly be faster here though, because the 6800U ships with Radeon 680M integrated graphics, which has 12 Compute Units: 50% more than Steam Deck. In fact, the iGPU subsystem can boost up to 2.2 GHz, so 600 MHz higher than SteamDeck. What this means is that the iGPU is almost twice as fast (3.38 TFLOPS vs 1,6 TFLOPS). The company CEO confirmed the device will be just as powerful as GTX 1050 Ti.

The APU operates in the 15 to 28W power range, giving companies such as AYANEO2 some room for adjustment. Handheld gaming console makers often use configurable TDP to unlock full performance when the device is attached to a docking station or simply is running off a charger.

The 6800U is also an 8-core Zen 3 CPU, as opposed to the Deck's 4-core Zen 2 CPU. The CPU in this new device should challenge or even beat the Series S CPU.

Welcome to PC gaming. A perfectionist nightmare.

The Steam Deck was obsolete the second it didn't go OLED or Mini LED screen it went straight up LCD garbage on a small 2022 handheld, come on dude the PS VITA was OLED and that was like 10 years ago Valve wtf are you doing? that system was the same price as yours.

PHONES are OLED Tablets are mini LED why the hell are U LCD in 2022 on that size valve?

iPad 100x stronger than this piece of crap it has a M1 chip inside it and tons of great video apps and u can do a million things on it the steam deck is a turd

Look at the Switch2 being 5 years+ behind both when it comes to tech. Competition is great in the mobile space, but Switch2 specs will be designed by a monkey🙃😁

If that's expensive everyone will ignore.

Valve (rightly) learned that majority people were not willing to shill out a grand.

5 people buy this if its price point is comparable.

At least it has some good stick/button layout unlike the deck.

Looks cool but also very pricey more than likely. Still it could find it's own niche too.

The Deck is not perfect. Sacrifices were made to hit its price point. So there are opportunities for other companies to step in and make improvements. That's what's great about the PC eco system. Lots of companies can try things and see what sticks.

Like everything else in life, you get what you pay for. This thing is like triple the price of the Steam Deck, and 5X the price of the Switch. It better be faster

This thing will fail just like Steam Deck and lolVita.

A thought: are all consumer devices quickly become obsolete when they are released?

Seems too pricey to me. I prefer making some compromises and getting a product in at around the $500 mark, give or take.

If people bought Valve's VR headset at $1000+, they'll def buy this.

@wandering_halls: I still cant believe Valves VR set sold a couple million. I think they just feel victim to the VR gimmick.

@techhog89: valve isn't really in the hardware space to make money off it. They are trying to sell more hardware so people end up buying more games off steam. Thats one reason why valve is willing to subsidize the deck so much.

It's very much using the console business model. Aya neo specs are nice but who's going to spend $1200??

There are lots of handheld PCs more powerful than the Deck out there already, but they all cost $1,000+. Until a system like this can be sold for less than $500, Valve will be fine.

More money gets you better specs... Wowza

Same point I brought up when people kept trying to compare steam deck to the switch....

Yeah it's more powerful... And alot more expensive entry point...

Imo handhelds aren't supposed graphics intensive.

The switch imo is still the best handheld on the market. Great entry point and great games catalogue. I get the argument if the only console you have is a handheld... But I'd rather leave the graphics intense stuff for my PC/TV console.

Massive fail, although a few people buy them as they keep releasing them.

@goldenelementxl: you get what you pay for except for those who bought an XSX expecting to play Starfield this year 🤣

It’s over a G. It’s not the same thing.

😂🤣Jesus. Viva LA steam deck!

There have been handheld PC's for years, they all come from various Japanese and Chinese companies. This is nothing new.

Steam Deck isn't going anywhere until Valve says "OK we are bored. Sorry, no more Decks" lol

Valve Index (and VR in general) is nothing short of incredible. Truly changes how one views gaming, and I hope VR is where we are going in terms of hardware and software development.

Worth it. Worth it just to fly planes in DCS World. Something about strapping on the headset and putting my hands on the HOTAS to fly meticulously modeled "Study sim" quality aircraft is so rewarding. You get the depth perception, the ability to look around 1:1, lean over and look down. Just incredible.

Also, if you sell a few million units, and games are always coming out....is it really a gimmick?

There has been a ton of steam deck like devices over the years and almost all of them fail for the same reason: price

This looks to follow the same template. lol of that power comes at a cost, price and battery life.

Steam deck manages to walk that like between power, battery life and price.

Unless they manage to get in at least the $500 price point it is going to have very little market penetration

@mrbojangles25: Actually, Valve is likely to stop making Steam Decks once other PC manufacturers like Alienware, Asus and Razer etc start making them. Valve loses money on each Deck sold because they can reclaim the money from Steam sales. But they will lose interest in the Deck once they realise PC manufacturers can take over the hardware side of things instead, meaning Valve can stop losing all their money from the Deck.

@navyguy21: I agree with your statement on price, but keep in mind that the reason why Steam Deck is so cheap is because Valve is willing to lose money from it because they can reclaim the money from Steam sales. Other PC manufacturers like Alienware do not have this advantage, they need to sell hardware at a profit otherwise they go bankrupt.

Yeah, I definitely understand that and agree.

But, I think the point remains. The end user isn't going to care whether or not the price makes sense for the manufacturer, the price mas to be mass market if they hope to sell more than 10k units.

I have always wanted a handheld PC but I don't $1500 want one lol

399-499 is the sweet spot for this kind of thing.

Outside of that you may as well get a gaming laptop

The advancements in the portable space honestly surprises me. Mobile APU nowadays is around 1050ti-1060? That is incredible.

Especially now with excellent TAA offerring from Epic, AMD and Nvidia DLSS solution games can look and play just as good.

That shit is expensive. You can literally buy a decent gaming laptop for that money

@ivangrozny: You can buy a decent PC for that money...well, you used to be able to until crypto ruined everything.

I like that Ayaneo Air, for me a portable system is all about weight.

But we dunno what APU is inside yet, and I'm afraid to order from China only to get robbed by customs.

I once ordered a Vita from Ebay, it came from Japan and customs tore open my package and charged me a fortune for destroying my package. Those jerks.

It's stabilising now. The great GPU shortage is coming to an end. The GPU I'm interested in buying next is only £100 over the price it should be going for. Six months ago it is was around £600 over MSRP. So a £450 GPU was going for £900!

You can buy a fully fledged RTX based PC for the same money as the AYANEO2.

I'm still down for a Steam deck. The price coupled with what I expect to play on it is perfect. Plus, the Steam Deck is still a portable emulation powerhouse!

Obsolete technically? Yes?

Obsolete as a portable gaming device? Not at that price.

Well if sales charts and system warriors are to be believed, the Switch (lite, regular, OLED) are not handhelds, they're "consoles". I don't agree but I'm curious to see if every dock enabled tablet or portable device get the same treatment.

The Deck shines simply due to its low price of entry. This will likely be in the triple digits and will be anything but affordable.

Good luck with that price :))

Very pricey and out of touched with the target matket.

@lavamelon: those companies have little incentive to make the hardware because the margin is thin. Steam has real motive to make the deck because of software sales. The other manufacturers need to see profit to make something like the deck, and I don't see anything cheaper than $500 to be honest.

I was skeptical on the Steam Deck but damn this device is pretty damn cool. I stayed up for hours playing it late last night

Aside from that $1300+ price tag, I wonder what the battery life will be like on that thing. Reviewer were already complaining about Steam Deck’s 2 hour life under load, I can’t imagine this monster won’t be even worse.

How does it feel to hold? It seemed kinda heavy, no?

Does it feel bad in your hands after a while?

They're all obsolete and yuuuugely overpriced if you have a smatphone/tablet and GP.

:P

@girlusocrazy:

Lol, I was pleasantly surprised how well it works at home since now I always try a new GP game via cloud instead of DL'ing the whole game but tbh, I never tried it on my phone so dunno. :P

LMAO, I might just be crazy enough to do that!