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#1  Edited By SheevPalpamemes
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Video cards cost more than full high end systems used to, cheaters in games like battlefield 5 are rampant. The store front is a mess. Steam sales suck now, no more flash deals.

You can’t even play the new Ratchet and Clank game on pc, what gives?

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#2 SolidGame_basic
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If you're into games that look like they're from 1995, PC is a gold mine.

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#3 SheevPalpamemes
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@SolidGame_basic: like what?

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#4 SolidGame_basic
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@sheevpalpamemes said:

@SolidGame_basic: like what?

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#5 SheevPalpamemes
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@SolidGame_basic: lol wtf

Is that?

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#6 WonderWinner
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"dead" no. But it's in trouble right now as long as these cards are pricey as most people can't afford the cards.

Here's hoping things will normalize in the long run.

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#7 lamprey263
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Well, the circle jerk of PC gamers gloating about the console killing potato masher they built from sofa change is long gone, though PC gaming certainly isn't dead. Though any lull in gaming caused by crypto-mining killing silicon availability is something that effects everyone, and not just gamers, production of new cars even. Now recycled PCs are going up in value, and used cars. Can't find a PS5 or Xbox at MSRP.

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#8 SolidGame_basic
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@wonderwinner said:

"dead" no. But it's in trouble right now as long as these cards are pricey as most people can't afford the cards.

Here's hoping things will normalize in the long run.

Yet people complain about $70 games lol.

@sheevpalpamemes said:

@SolidGame_basic: lol wtf

Is that?

Maybe you can play it in 8k 240fps?

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#9 Fedor
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Bunch of moo boi's wishing for the death of PC. Not surprised.

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#10  Edited By Pedro
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Damn! Sony fannies are angry with everything as of late. Must be those Sony ports to PC that is causing these headaches. 😎

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#11 Howmakewood
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dead for the 20th year in a row

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#12  Edited By shadyacshuns
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I wish console fans would unite and push pc off the table for discussion here. PC isn't really a "system" anyways, it's an open platform so a plethora of systems grouped together for the purpose of "competing" on a board called 'system wars'.

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#13 Pedro
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@howmakewood said:

dead for the 20th year in a row

That is how old the Xbox is. 😂

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#14 pyro1245
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checks PC....

not yet

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#15  Edited By madrocketeer
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Ah yes. PC gaming. "Dying" every year since 1985.

This isn't the first crypto boom to send GPU prices sky high. It passed last time, it will pass again. Everything else is old news that didn't amount to anything significant.

When you don't have generations, you're basically a single platform stretching back at least to the 386 and Windows 3.0 days. And when you've been around that long, you've basically been there, seen that, got the t-shirt.

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#16 xantufrog  Moderator
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Probably. I haven't seen my PC in hours. Object permanence and all that

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#17 SheevPalpamemes
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@madrocketeer: I’ve been gaming on pc since the early 80’s playing lode runner and space quest. I have never been so disinterested. Every game on steam is basically a survival/build shit game in alpha. There aren’t any bad ass RTS’s, or engrossing rpgs. It’s all dog shit these days.

Consoles are killing it and cost A LOT less, even at scalper prices.

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#18 madrocketeer
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@sheevpalpamemes:

Sounds more like a "you" problem than a PC problem. YMMV, that's just how life works. Not here to convince you otherwise, since it's a personal problem.

So, what's the point of this thread again?

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#19 remiks00
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@fedor said:

Bunch of moo boi's wishing for the death of PC. Not surprised.

@Pedro said:

Damn! Sony fannies are angry with everything as of late. Must be those Sony ports to PC that is causing these headaches. 😎

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#20 BenjaminBanklin
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No. But GPU unavailability isn't helping. The best part of PC gaming was being able to upgrade components at your leisure, then here comes crypto and silicon shortages ready to take a bat to everything. Not that consoles are really faring a lot better. But hell, at least they're not competing with non-gaming uses for the machines against gamers.

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#21 SOedipus
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I guess I'm in the afterlife.

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#22 omegaMaster
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Not really.

Xbox gamepass is selling like hot cakes on PC. Where have you been lol

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#23 R4gn4r0k
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You could still game comfortably on a GTX970.

My three year old GPU goes toe-to-toe with your state of the art Poop Station.

The only reason you need to buy new hardware is because companies lead you to believe that you do.

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#24 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@howmakewood said:

dead for the 20th year in a row

Deader than Elvis😁

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@sheevpalpamemes said:

Video cards cost more than full high end systems used to

This is because demand has outpaced supply, not because an unusually small number of X are being manufactured. You gotta understand that these companies buy time from the fabs months or years in advance. You can't just say "oh, demand increased so add a few thousand more bins to our order". You get put in the back of the line, which could be months or years out.

Covid caused a surge in demand for home electronics, PCs in particular due to work/learn from home. It's a pickle, but to assert that it's a judgement of the health of PC gaming is ridiculous.

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#26 hardwenzen  Online
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I am on the onboard gpu. Leave me alone.

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#27  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Nah, just a combination of the cryptominers and silicon shortage and COVID and such.

Good thing awesome glory of PC gaming is so independent of hardware, it doesn't matter what prices are like for cutting edge GPU's. I could have a video card from 7 years ago and I'd be having more fun on PC than ever.

@wonderwinner said:

"dead" no. But it's in trouble right now as long as these cards are pricey as most people can't afford the cards.

Here's hoping things will normalize in the long run.

Eh, it's more of a depression. Lots of industries are experiencing this at the moment.

Remember when we couldn't find toilet paper? No one cried "Wiping your ass is dead" though :P

I do feel bad for anyone that hasn't upgraded their GPU in the last five or so years, though.

@xantufrog said:

Probably. I haven't seen my PC in hours. Object permanence and all that

Can you see the parts inside your case? If not, one could argue your PC is dead and alive

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#28 rmiller365
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Lol, if PC gaming was dead Microsoft and Sony wouldn't be bringing their games over to the platform to try and get a slice of that delicious pie.

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#29  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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Consoles... Such a nice satisfying simple form of entertainment.

But no pc isn't dead.

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#30 SheevPalpamemes
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@TheEroica: it is. People rent their games now. Blockbuster will go out of business, so will gamepass. Same thing.

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#31 wandering_halls  Online
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If PC gaming is dead, why is Sony in such a hurry to give all its games to PC?

/thread

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#32  Edited By uninspiredcup
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I think the magic of pc gaming still exists primarily in the smaller games that sites like Gamespot, IGN etc.. play catch up too because they are too busy acting as PR for EA, Activision, Ubisoft etc...

Stuff like Mount And Blade. Stalker. Shit the mainstream media generally do not care about but carry on through the gaming community. They pop up on Steam on a regular basis, sometimes easy to see blowing up, other times seemingly out of nowhere. It's great. Reminds me of the homebrew computer software in the 80's where anyone in a bedroom with an idea and basic programming skills could make a game.

In general the types of games mentioned above do not require uber hardware. They stand up on gameplay.

When it comes to AAA stuff, most are developed with console in mind. And lets be honest, cynical in nature. Barely fucking play them now, feels more like a looping pyramid scheme than actual games.

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#33 Telekill
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Mine can run Unreal Tournament 2004. That's the only game it needs to run. Everything else is on PS5 for me.

More on topic... I think PC gaming is going to be hurting for a while but it's far from dead. It will now simply be more die hard PC gamers shelling out willingly and the moderate and casual PC crowds waiting.

Then you have to look at income and with people less willing to work now because unemployment benefits are making them severely lazy, they may not care about upgrading their PCs as regularly.

If this processor shortage doesn't stop soon, I'd imagine prices will continue to skyrocket. PS5 and XSeX may increase in price as well due to the shortage alone. Then America has mass inflation coming our way. I expect that the days of the $500 console may be a thing of the past and those of us lucky enough to snag one at retail might be the last to see those prices.

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#34 osan0
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PC gaming is dead because demand for PC gaming hardware far exceeds supply.....er......hmmm.

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#35 uninspiredcup
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@Telekill said:

Mine can run Unreal Tournament 2004. That's the only game it needs to run. Everything else is on PS5 for me.

One of the great things about PC gaming. Even with a cheap-ass laptop .. £300+, it has decades and decades (and decades) of games to play.

And that's ignoring stuff Nintedo really, really hate.

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#36 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@TheEroica: Why not settle for a Laptop gaming?

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#37  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@davillain-: I have! I actually have a gaming laptop that still does well playing games through the beginning of the ps4 generation. It's ok I guess. I use cakewalk music studio more than anything on it through steam.

I'm a console kid though. Zero interest In building/investing/researching in cutting edge pc tech though. Video game design is governed by the capabilities of homes consoles... It hurts pc gamers to say that. But it's true.

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#38  Edited By Maroxad
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PC gaming is arguably the most popular platform.

@sheevpalpamemes said:

@madrocketeer: I’ve been gaming on pc since the early 80’s playing lode runner and space quest. I have never been so disinterested. Every game on steam is basically a survival/build shit game in alpha. There aren’t any bad ass RTS’s, or engrossing rpgs. It’s all dog shit these days.

Consoles are killing it and cost A LOT less, even at scalper prices.

Total War: Warhammer 3 is releasing sometime this year. That game will probably be a banger!

Chivalry 2 came out last month and that game was supposedly real good too.

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#39 Archangel3371
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The Cows are lashing out at everyone these days. “Is PC gaming dead?” “Is the Switch overrated?” “Xbox has no games.” I can come with plenty more but I think you get the picture. 😅

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#40  Edited By Pedro
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@Archangel3371 said:

The Cows are lashing out at everyone these days. “Is PC gaming dead?” “Is the Switch overrated?” “Xbox has no games.” I can come with plenty more but I think you get the picture. 😅

I thought they have games to play. 😎

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#41 MK245
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PC gaming has been dying for longer than you and SolidGame_basic have been trolling these boards.

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#42  Edited By Yams1980
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PC gaming is hard to stay into these days with the cost and scarcity of high end GPUs and other hardware due to the semi conductor shortages partly caused by useless bitcoin mining causing stress on an already fragile supply chain.

I've for sure noticed over the last couple years I haven't been much into many new games because of this.

My cpu is very outdated and even my gpu is getting a bit dated. Just waiting it out till there is more supply and I can actually buy what I want at MSRP. I could buy old used parts or mid range stuff but when I upgrade, I want a real change, not a minor incremental upgrade.

I also don't want to be ripped off, I won't overpay for electronics made from mostly shitty plastic and sand.

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#43  Edited By mtron32
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@sheevpalpamemes said:

Video cards cost more than full high end systems used to, cheaters in games like battlefield 5 are rampant. The store front is a mess. Steam sales suck now, no more flash deals.

You can’t even play the new Ratchet and Clank game on pc, what gives?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you find a year old "top of the line" GPU? I just checked on amazon for top GPU's of 2020, all of those are still available, you don't actually need a 3080, the scarcity of it is just driving fools nuts. The beauty of PC is you can play everything, just can't always max everything out.

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#44 Pedro
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@mtron32 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you find a year old "top of the line" GPU? I just checked on amazon for top GPU's of 2020, all of those are still available, you don't actually need a 3080, the scarcity of it is just driving fools nuts. The beauty of PC is you can play everything, just can't always max everything out.

Share a link to these fable cards.

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#45 mtron32
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@Archangel3371 said:

The Cows are lashing out at everyone these days. “Is PC gaming dead?” “Is the Switch overrated?” “Xbox has no games.” I can come with plenty more but I think you get the picture. 😅

You'd think they'd still be having a blast with returnal.

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#46 Pedro
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@mtron32 said:
@Archangel3371 said:

The Cows are lashing out at everyone these days. “Is PC gaming dead?” “Is the Switch overrated?” “Xbox has no games.” I can come with plenty more but I think you get the picture. 😅

You'd think they'd still be having a blast with returnal.

They abandon that game less than a week later.

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@mtron32 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you find a year old "top of the line" GPU? I just checked on amazon for top GPU's of 2020, all of those are still available, you don't actually need a 3080, the scarcity of it is just driving fools nuts. The beauty of PC is you can play everything, just can't always max everything out.

The RTX 2 series are cranked in price right now due to the shortages. I gave my 2080 to my bro, but I could have gotten $800-$1000 for the card on Ebay.

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#48 Archangel3371
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@mtron32: Poor Returnal. I’ll probably always think of that as being the game that did in ProtossRushX. 😂

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#49 mojito1988
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Yes. So dead in fact that in the next 5 years Sony will put most of the big hitters and it and MS already has for years.

RIP.

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#50 with_teeth26
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Hackers in MP games and hardware shortages absolutely suck, there is no denying that.

but there is also no denying the fact that more and more games are coming to PC and exclusives are dying out. If you have the money its still the best platform for gaming.