Is it safe to assume that Xbox will win North America next gen by a wide margin?

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Poll Is it safe to assume that Xbox will win North America next gen by a wide margin? (91 votes)

Yes. 18%
No. 82%

It's up to you how you want to define "win". To me, it could be a nice wide margin of sales over competition like a 40m xbox vs 100m PS4s but that's world wide estimates. PS4 owns this generation.

I'm guessing it's probably a "yes" because of the Lockhart and Halo Infinite. A gamble where more people might not mind 1080p/2K resolutions just how there are probably way more base/s xbox ones than One X sold within the 40-50m estimates.

MS probably won't shoot themselves in the foot either with the used game fiasco, out of the gate.

This is just speculation ofc.

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@WitIsWisdom said:

I would say that is not a safe assumption.

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#53 ermacness
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@ProtossRushX said:

bro are you friggin kidding me?

SONY WOJN TH PS1 WON PS2 WON PS3 WON USA USA USA ps4 won usa

how do you win when you lose 4 times in a row

I'm not sure if you're serious, but how could the Xbox lose 4 times in a row, while having only been in the console industry for 3 gens?

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#54 Pedro  Online
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@ermacness said:

I'm not sure if you're serious, but how could the Xbox lose 4 times in a row, while having only been in the console industry for 3 gens?

Because he said so. 😎

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#55  Edited By tormentos
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@bluestars said:

Xbox is more powerful,looks better(sw poll),games will look/run better(recent p.spencer interview,power advantage,see pro v x DF for proof that power matters).

Xbox has more game studios ,making more games with the likes of FH4,sea of thieves and the outer worlds beating Sony’s big game studios titles like TLou2,days gone and other big hitters like death stranding Already

Gamepass Is unrivalled and Xbox will struggle to have a launch library as bad as the ps5.....so where it really matters Xbox win

You can cry sales,but No....sales are for sad acts,you telling me the PS4 is better than a 2080ti pc because it’s sold more?,because if you are HAH

But the real winner is me as I will be getting both

#realgamer

Son kingtito you make a huge Pro xbox rant,then try to downplay sales on which this thread is based after making a Pro xbox rant about how superior everything on xbox is then end saying you will be the winner because you will get both and call your self a real gamer.😂😂😂

Never seen some on own him self so much on a single post.

Man you are not a real gamer you are a blind lemming which can't even admit been a lemming on any of its accounts.

@vfighter said:

@bluestars: What in the hell did I just read?!? HaH

HaH

So you got it to..🤣🤣🤣

Is kingtito pathetic way of cheering for the xbox while trying to pretend to be unbiased because he actually believe he is unbiased on this account on the other as well.😂

@Sevenizz said:

I can’t speak for others, but I’m picking Xbox again next gen. Sony doesn’t offer me the games or services I like.

Oh what a suprise i would have expected this from others but you no, no no no...

Now i have to call sony and tell them we loss @Sevenizz imagine how Cerny will feel now.

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@BlackShirt20 said:

@wervenom: It’s closed to 30% power difference with a 44% core advantage, along with better CPU and Ram. So yeah, hardware is pretty obviously better on XSX. Hang in there bud, gonna be a rough generation for you. Go ahead, try to disprove anything I just said.

Dude what do you gain from artificially inflating the xbox series X gap?

This is the xbox one launch all over again,were lemmings such as your self(and probably on other account) claimed the xbox one would close a 40% gap based on a api or a cloud.

The gap is what it is saying it is 30% will not change it,saying 44% more CU to make it look bigger simple is just wasted effort is 18% to 21% with 10GB of faster memory and 6GB of slower memory and 120% slowed SSD.

No one has to disprove your argument because you can't even prove it your self.

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#57 Jag85
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Unlikely. Not without software exclusives which would entice people to buy the console. Sony is making the right move by focusing on the software. Unless Microsoft can respond with quality exclusive software of their own, it's going to be tough for them to compete.

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#58 firedrakes
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if they can under price sony. by atleasy 100 bucks. and have a proper halo game and mybe another 2 games. they do stand a chance

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#59 PSthreegaming26
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NO. What about the GAMES... One X was a Powerful Console. Where were the Games.

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@psthreegaming26 said:

NO. What about the GAMES... One X was a Powerful Console. Where were the Games.

First-party reveal in July.

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Its really grasping when people say "what about the games" as if there is not an event specifically for that. Now, if the event turns out to be a shit show, then you have a point.

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#62 tormentos
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@Pedro said:

Its really grasping when people say "what about the games" as if there is not an event specifically for that. Now, if the event turns out to be a shit show, then you have a point.

For what purpose if you can get those games on xbox one or xbox one X or PC without buying a new console.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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#63 BlackShirt20
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@tormentos: Does it eat you alive to know Xbox is guaranteed to have superior hardware?

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@BlackShirt20 said:

@tormentos: Does it eat you alive to know Xbox is guaranteed to have superior hardware?

No out of all gen only 1 the PS was on top graphically for 4 years,the rest it has been behind,the games more than make for it.

Now why do you feel the need to over blow the gap? Aren't you happy with 18% you need it to be 30 or 40% to enjoy the xbox?

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#65 Pedro  Online
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That PS5 being weak is causing major buttaches. After all these years of power matters its must burn like a mofo.

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#66 BlackShirt20
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@tormentos: So long as you admit the PS5 has inferior hardware. Of course I’m ok with 30% extra power. I love the idea of having no compromise and a guarantee I’m getting the best next generation experience ever.

Baby steps. You’ll get there.

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@firedrakes said:

if they can under price sony. by atleasy 100 bucks. and have a proper halo game and mybe another 2 games. they do stand a chance

I hope MS is able to price the weak S, at least 2 games less ($ 120) than the PS5 while still able to do next gen settings at 1080p.

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#68 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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The fact that anybody thinks North America will collectively agree on anything at this point is just simply confounding.

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#69 firedrakes
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@IMAHAPYHIPPO: well their cope up and such... so stuff like this is bound to happen

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Phony is doomed.... Dooooomed I tellz ya. :P

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@Pedro said:

Its really grasping when people say "what about the games" as if there is not an event specifically for that. Now, if the event turns out to be a shit show, then you have a point.

Yeah, we'll see. I wouldn't get hopes up, but they certainly have the chance to wow us.

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Nothing is a sure bet without pricing.

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@adsparky said:

Nope, first we don't know the price and second the "no exclusives" for the first 2 years can be disastrous for early sales.

Don't they just have to imply how much better it looks and plays on the next gen systems?

I think the price of the Series S will be significantly cheaper than the PS5. Perhaps close to a hundred.

no like you said every one doesn't care playing in 1080p/2k so why would they upgrade?

if the ps5 is priced at 500 most people that buy next gen out of the gate will pay 500 even if series s is at 200. 90% of next gen buyers out of the gate know what there getting. know what teraflop are or ssd and want the most out of there 1000 tv's. same with series x. xbox fans who buy consoles out of the gate will buy the series x. even if at the same price of 500.

even the people that still have the original xbox one.

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@WitIsWisdom said:

I would say that is not a safe assumption.

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#75 rzxv04
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@gifford38: Because current gen's bases aren't even mostly 1080p stable, specially the xbox, and won't have the visual settings of next gen. Plus it'll probably be an aggresively priced investment for an entire generation.

1080p stable can be a decent upgrade from existing base consoles plus better graphics.

I honestly doubt most would buy the Series X in the long run if MS plays it right with the S, not too far off from how the base consoles are probably more popular. Initially I think you're right that X will likely sell much more though.

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Sony is too far ahead. MS will be playing catch-up this next gen as well. MS really screwed up this gen, badly. The xbox one is a nice console, but the only thing is really has going for it is a better controller than the DS4.

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#77 rzxv04
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@joebones5000: I'm not sure if they're that far ahead in NA. Probably so in the other parts of the world but this might be where the S kicks in for somewhat developing regions.

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@BlackShirt20 said:

@tormentos: So long as you admit the PS5 has inferior hardware. Of course I’m ok with 30% extra power. I love the idea of having no compromise and a guarantee I’m getting the best next generation experience ever.

Baby steps. You’ll get there.

Were did i say the PS5 had superior hardware?

Well maybe you should wait for the xeries X X version to be release,because the version you are getting at launch is just 18% more powerful,with faster and slower ram and a much slower SSD.

There is always conpromises,by this year the 3080 series will hit and already the series X and PS5 are weaker than the 2080ti so yeah compromises will always be there.

If you plan to get the best next generation version get a PC.

Ill allow that to sink in.😊

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#79  Edited By tdkmillsy
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@tormentos said:
@BlackShirt20 said:

@tormentos: So long as you admit the PS5 has inferior hardware. Of course I’m ok with 30% extra power. I love the idea of having no compromise and a guarantee I’m getting the best next generation experience ever.

Baby steps. You’ll get there.

Were did i say the PS5 had superior hardware?

Well maybe you should wait for the xeries X X version to be release,because the version you are getting at launch is at least 18% more powerful GPU and more powerful CPU, with faster and slower ram and a much slower SSD.

There is always conpromises,by this year the 3080 series will hit and already the series X and PS5 are weaker than the 2080ti so yeah compromises will always be there.

If you plan to get the best next generation version and have the money and space get a PC.

But if you are in the market for best next generation version on console get a series X

Ill allow that to sink in.😊

Made a couple of tweaks to make you post correct.

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@tdkmillsy said:

Made a couple of tweaks to make you post correct.

18% to 21% so yeah much closer than your 30% to 40% gap pulled from your wishfull thinking back compartment.

Yeah that also apply for the series X not everyone has $500 or more to get one.

In fact that was confirmed by how shitty the xbox one sales were back in 2014 and how shitty the xbox one X sales were as well,console are cheaper than PC to buy,but that doesn't mean the majority of the console market would pay $500 for one.

$500 console is as out of reach for most console owners as a $2k PC is,and that is not my opinion is a fact,most people who bought an xbox one did so for $299 or less hell i dare say less.

The same with the PS4,xbox 360,PS3 and other consoles.

Hell the great majority of the PS2 and xbox were sold for $199 and lower again not retail price.

The whole space argument is pathetic you are not putting a 3 person sofa,you are getting a PC which can very well be on the side of your enterteiment system without problem.

No if you are looking for the best looking version is because you CARE about graphics and since you don't care for paying $15 a month for gamespass and $60 a year for online play i don't see why you can't go the extra mile and get the REAL best looking version which is PC and online free by the way so you save $60 a year,hell gamepass is cheaper on PC as well.lol

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#81 tdkmillsy
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@tormentos said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Made a couple of tweaks to make you post correct.

18% to 21% so yeah much closer than your 30% to 40% gap pulled from your wishfull thinking back compartment.

Yeah that also apply for the series X not everyone has $500 or more to get one.

In fact that was confirmed by how shitty the xbox one sales were back in 2014 and how shitty the xbox one X sales were as well,console are cheaper than PC to buy,but that doesn't mean the majority of the console market would pay $500 for one.

$500 console is as out of reach for most console owners as a $2k PC is,and that is not my opinion is a fact,most people who bought an xbox one did so for $299 or less hell i dare say less.

The same with the PS4,xbox 360,PS3 and other consoles.

Hell the great majority of the PS2 and xbox were sold for $199 and lower again not retail price.

The whole space argument is pathetic you are not putting a 3 person sofa,you are getting a PC which can very well be on the side of your enterteiment system without problem.

No if you are looking for the best looking version is because you CARE about graphics and since you don't care for paying $15 a month for gamespass and $60 a year for online play i don't see why you can't go the extra mile and get the REAL best looking version which is PC and online free by the way so you save $60 a year,hell gamepass is cheaper on PC as well.lol

$500 console is as out of reach for most console owners as a $2k PC is,and that is not my opinion is a fact,most people who bought an xbox one did so for $299 or less hell i dare say less.

Now $500 is the same as $2k, now that's funny.

Guess they wont sell any consoles at launch cos everyone will go buy a $£2k PC instead.