Is it out growing games or games just aren't as good ?

Gettin older mate, its mind games. Rekindle that fire.

8th gen is shit. you could be 16y old with a brain and see how crappy most games are since ~2012. Everyone used to copy gears and cod. now they copy each other on delaying everything announced.

Youre getting old, there are plenty of amazing games coming out.

Coming out huh? Elaborate... As a gamer from the NES, I am tired from these terribad games and the online stat-padders.

@sleepnsurf: there are quite a few that I am personally looking forward too at least. Persona 5 being at the top, but there are others ff xv, re 7, tekken 7, injustice 2, and horizon are some that are coming out soonish, Everyone is just kinda pesamistic, there are good games if you look for them, there are probably even a few that you missed

8th gen has been nothing but open world/FPS games.

Extremely safe games that devs know will sell.

Variety has sucked this gen, inb4 teh indies!

I think it's both. I'm not growing out of games because I'm still playing them! They just happen to be pre-8th gen games.

Games don't have the same polish or love put into them anymore. The middle man is all but entirely gone, and the industry is all about money. Not that making money wasn't a goal before, but the industry has set nearly unreachable profit margins as being "successful". Releasing half finished games and only fixing them if they turn enough profit is the norm these days, and that's sickening to me. It's easier for a new generation of gamers or those just coming into their "gaming primes" to look at the games of today as the best of all time. The problem is... they didn't play the games that many of us compare them to, and even if they have, it was years after the games releases and not when they first hit the market. The graphics may not be as good, but that has nothing to do with quality, story, playability, or the fun factor. All too many times in the recent history of games has it felt as though devs put so much effort into making their games shine that they are nearly devoid of any fun, and often time the frame rates suffer the most... which goes hand in hand with playability. This isn't always the case, but it is much more common now then games in years from the past.

I may be set in my ways, but I know a good game when I play one. I vote to stop dumbing things down and add layers of difficulty and things you actually have to practice and maybe even use trial and error to understand or get accustomed to. The old saying "more is less" doesn't apply to video games... at least not with me. Unless of course it's SUPPOSED to be a simple game with few controls or thought processes.

There are some good games out there, but I miss the challenges games used to provide. Very few games out there scratch that itch these days... even on the hardest difficulty level in which I play almost every campaign.

This.

Yeah, it's both. Least for me it is.

I still find fun gems here and there, but the older I've gotten the less willing I am to take chances on new things. I stick to what I know and love and enjoy myself. Time not spent gaming is spent reading, writing, or watching TV/film.

We're just getting older, I'm a collector and I absolutely love video games, however it's hard to play them and actually get into them anymore. I will never stop playing games, but the excitement I had for them when I was younger has been mostly extinguished.

They were a product of my childhood and that is why I hold on to them, but they hardly fit into my adult life even though I desperately want them to.

Eventually, we outgrow everything we do...

P.S. Games 6th generation and under were fantastic, gen 7 is when it all started falling apart and everything became corporatized. This generation is even worse than the last and corporate rule is in full effect, there are no second tier developers anymore like Midway, Acclaim, Raven, Crave, Iguana Entertainment etc, it's either indie or AAA now, there's no in between and the in between is where the best and most memorable games were developed.

@WitIsWisdom: Damn, well written.

It's easy to say that but when you actually look at the offerings of today from the AAA market, its a joke and much less risk taking than the past.

There is a reason why most games coming out are sports titles, open word, and FPS games....$

Variety and general retail game output has gone down from the PS2 era or even the 360 era, this whole gen for the first couple of years was 75% remasters.

I still game but the Halo Gears Forza spam from MS and the slow ass output from Sony leaves not much to be desired unless you want to play generic FPS #1002. Last gen was FPS heavy and we are getting exactly more of the same.

Japan is still irrelevant, Capcom is yet to release a game this gen, Konami and Square release like 5 games a decade tops. Just general games output has sharply declined across the board unless we include low budget indies.

@brah4ever: Read my edit.

I really appreciate the compliments. These forums have had some very well thought out threads and people posting in them as of late and it really impresses me. I don't know what gamespot put in the water, but I hope it continues. lol.

Gen 8 is a continuation of the transition in gaming that occurred in Gen 7.

Gaming went mainstream, never before has every console in a gen sold 80 million +

The more gamey or abstract games died as a result of higher dev cost and lack of sales since the consumer just wants 2K, GTA, CoD. It's why Japan which was a leader back in the day is a former shell of itself and why many other devs went bankrupt in the states.

I think this is grossly close-minded of you considering the rest of your post.

Also, Capcom released two massive titles in the last few years alone: Monster Hunter games the both of them. They might not have been on consoles, but boy howdy did they rake in massive profits in their home country (not sure on sales numbers in the West, however).

Capcom is a joke compared to what they used to release gen 5-6.

They were popping out games left/right but today? They haven't released 1 NEW game this gen and we are about to be 5 years in.

I'll be a cynic and say its Gen 8. Atleast for me.

I noticed I stopped using consoles and went completely to PC during the lame-duck period for Gen 7 going into Gen 8. Besides exclusives I can't see any logical reason to get an Xbox or PS rn.

I've mostly given up on the Xbox and Playstation as they have been sucking a lot in the games department for a while.

PC is where most passion projects reside nowadays, so I've simply moved mainly to PC in order to find awesome and unique experiences, and it doesn't let me down. In fact, I'd say it's only made me more passionate for games.

You may just need to branch out. If gaming sucks then find new games. There are thousands of them, and they come in all shapes and sizes just as all forms of media do.

@brah4ever:

The amount of games doesn't really concern or surprise me. Development costs and time has escalated considerably since Gen 5 and Gen 6. And like I said earlier: they released at least two Monster Hunter games in the last few years. So the claim that they haven't released anything new is simply not true.

Everything starting with P.S. is spot on man, and I completely agree.

They released 2 games from the same exact series and zero games for current gen consoles.....awesome!

Yup we're just getting older.

I'm 39 and it's the reason I decided to just stick with the Xbox One...or just one console for this gen (might pick up a PS4 original at some point when it drops to $199). There are a few gems here and there and enjoying the Xb1 very much. But overall, the fire and excitement I once had growing up is no longer there anymore. Eventually, I move on, and there are times I'll pick up the controller again if I see an interesting game I'm willing to play. But it's hard to get to actually play them from beginning to end.

@brah4ever:

If MH is their biggest seller now, why wouldn't they focus on that series?

If there are more 3DS devices in consumer hands, why wouldn't they release them on those devices?

Be salty they didn't release anything on consoles. Fine. But ignoring two multi-million unit sellers doesn't help your claim.

Not salty at all, its just sad to see a company like Capcom struggle so much.

MH is pretty much the only thing keeping them afloat.

@brah4ever:

I get the feeling that's going to be the case for more and more developers as time goes on.

It's a sad realization, but inevitable given the high costs of development. Especially for the newest hardware.

It's mostly an age thing. We have more good/great games coming out these days compared to 15+ years ago. We also have a lot of shit too, but that's always been the case. As you get older it becomes harder to enjoy games, espeically when you feel like you have lots of important shit you should be doing instead of playing (yet you keep playing anyway, with a slight sense of guilt).

@WitIsWisdom: I really hope some devs read your post... Only a few devs out there still are passionate with gaming, judging by their product, I dont mind graphics to compensate for great gameplay and story..

I've been gaming pretty long myself, dating back to the arcades of the late 70's. I have no problems with the current gaming scene. I do the vast majority of my gaming on the PC where generations don't really exist. An old game can feel as refreshing as a new game.

There's so many games I missed during the last decade and a half because I was so focused on a few games. For example, I haven't played Metro 2033 yet. After having finished Metro Last Light recently, I'm contemplating buying the former even though it came out in 2010. Older games I'm just getting into is System Shock 2 which released back in 1999.

those are rehashed games...tho

i love this message right here i just wanted to ask this question because i just feel like the games aren't good anymore them seem so short or just seem like u have nothing else to do after u beat the whole game or its no sense of accomplishment i think the only thing that saving these games are really online play lets minus the sport games and the army games its like i be looking for them games that can make me want to play it more

I think people are non active cry babies. I have been coming here over 12 years, posting more than 10. I can't count how many times I read from someone how gaming sucks, it's dying, going the way of the do do.

Many are still here though. Why? When I am not enjoying something I do an amazing thing........i stop taking part in it. Or, I become pro active and get involved in changing it.

If gaming isn't fun or "good" anymore, move on. Nobody will miss you. Who cares if it's age or your assessment of what is "good" or not? Stop doing what you don't enjoy. You'll feel better.

I thought I did not care for games maybe 4 years ago. In reality, my personality had changed enough to where I enjoy games more now, but in a different fashion. Where before I would play maybe 203 games at a time, and play one until early in the morning, now I have like 20 games at a time, and I play each a little here and there. That made it more enjoyable for me.

You aren't crazy my friend, new games suck ass.

-Day 1 patch

- Missing graphic options that need tweaking

- Forced sign in's

- Forced, unskippable titles taking up 30 seconds of nothing

- Overlong tutorials

- Annoying and shitty attempts at being a Hollywood movie over gameplay

- Cliuttered UI

- Simplified level design

- Enemies glowing like lightbulbs

- Xray vision

- Constant checkpoints removing the point of playing

- Microsoft and Sony paying to delay games

- Microtransactions

- Scared to offend to the PC brigade

- Indie devs

- Youtube games

- Walking simulators

- Forced multiplayer

- Obligatory leveling up system

- Mobile games

- Always Online games that don't need to be online

- Console built FPS

- Paying for mods

- Trading system

- Spamming the same game over and over

- EA owns the rights to make Star Wars games

- EA killed CnC

- EA killed Crytek

- EA killed SimCity

- Ubisoft killed Rainbow Six

- Ubisoft Killed Ghost Recon

- Tactical shooters are all but dead

- Fallout is now a FPS

- Terrible survival games

- Greenlight games

- Early Access games

- Kickstarter scams

- Preoder items

- Paid for early access to multiplayer

- Increased game prices

- Increased console prices

- Upgrade your console

- Low FOV

- Forced 30fps

- In game ads

- Seasons passes

- Canned kill animations

- Follow the marker

- QTE

- day 1 dlc, for dlc

Well, this gen is pretty shit. And I don't believe I think that because I suddenly became older. I'm leaning more towards because this gen is pretty shit.

Getting old, I think. Sure there are problems in this gen but we do get gems dropped here or there -- pretty much like every gen. However, I do agree that most games these days just don't provide any real challenge. Or maybe we're getting good... idk.

Games are awesome this gen. You are just old and jaded.

Ask kids, they'll say that those old games we used to play suck. You're just getting old and your interest may have switched to other stuff

Well as far as I can say, AAA titles seem to get shallower and shallower. So when it comes to gameplay, the big games seem to get worse. However, if you look around at smaller titles, you can find games with very polished gameplay. A game like Freedom Planet can easily be on par with the Genesis Sonics

Pretty much this/

100% agreed. well said my friend

Last generation was worse. this generation is major improvement because last gen killed many genre and franchise that are revieved this gen.

It's not about being old, it's about being whiny. The ability to enjoy games has nothing to do with age. Like usual there are more games I want to play than I could possibly have time to play. But it seems that nowadays people spend more time complaining on the internet than actually enjoying things.

Welcome to the internet. I remember when I first discovered it. Porn, cheats/walkthroughs, people bitching about movies and.....you guessed it! Video games!. Ahh... the good ol' 90s.

• Persona 5 is the first main series persona game in 8 years
• ff xv is pretty different from other ff games in pretty obvious ways
• RE 7 is also looking to change the formula
• Tekken 7 maybe, but I am still looking forward to it
• injustice 2 is only the second game
• Horizon is a new ip

What people tend to do it romanticise about the 'good ol day's' and only remember the good from older gens.

They forget the mountain of crap that existed in the 8 and 16 bit era. The fact that every other game was a 2D platformer or side scroller or fighting game. And compare that to the negative stuff these days.

I'd personally argue that there is more variety these days than ever before. And that is coming from a 40 year old that has played games since 1986.

If I didn't enjoy games anymore I would just stop playing. But I love them just as much now as I did 30 years ago.

@boycie: This^^^^^^ 100%

There have always been bad games in any generation.

What you need to do is expand your base for gaming, just don't stick to one gen or platform.

I've gone back and started collecting retro consoles, NES/SNES/Genesis/Dreamcast/ps1-4/N64/Gamecube/X360/DS and I've been playing games I've missed out on through the generations. Each console has hundreds of amazing games, and I'll never play them all.

Right now I'm playing Castlevania Symphony of the Night on Ps1 and I'm having a blast! I can't believe I missed out on this game when it came out.

Games are better and broader now than ever before. There's no doubt about that. Anyone that says otherwise just chooses to be ignorant. (ie Brah4ever's defensive lolindies veil of stupidity)

It could be age: you're more cynical or you've just played alot that certain mechanics are just par for the course and becomes a blur. I admit that I feel this too, but the breadth and pace of the industry has more than made up for that.

Or for many gamers, they have yet to adapt to the changing nature of the medium with varying markets being more focused or newly developed and with a more grassroots style of growth similar to independent content from other mediums. But alot of gamers people are still stuck in the old fashioned E3, retail hype train of the old, which is sad considering how much time gamers seem to spend complaining about games on the internet when they could be looking instead.

It has nothing to do with the high cost of development. It's that Japanese developers are out of touch with what the West wants. Their games seem low budget when compared to a Western game.

Is high development cost stifling innovation/creativity? Absolutely, but developers are too focused on graphics and playing it safe. Too many game franchisees are on their 5th+ entry and they're getting stale.

Then you have all the "fun" content like extra costumes gated behind DLC. We used to get skins included in the game for free, you know. Or you bought an expansion pack with was a great value.

Companies like EA and Activision have paid people to determine EXACTLY how much content you should get for your $60. That means the going above and beyond neat things devs used to but in games are long gone.

They sucked all the fun out :(. Gaming is about milking franchises now for the major publishers and paid DLC.

Do you realize how many companies are trying Hearthstone/Overwatch-like systems of paid random loot boxes? It's insane!

Gaming could crash on console some day. I too hardly play on console anymore. If it wasn't for Square-Enix games and Madden I would have traded in my Ps4/Wii U by now. Already got rid of my Xbone.

It's both... You can't expect people to be enamored with the same concepts over and over and f***ing over without their becoming a huge malaise in their enjoyment. Games are stagnating over the fear of embracing change... And possibly feeding the investors pockets, because we are not the target audience anymore and there are people who will happily buy every yearly rehash without giving it a second thought.

The good old days weren't always good and tomorrow's not as bad as it seems. I'm keepin the faith, yeah keepin the faith. :P

Anyway, getting older does play a role, no doubt about it.