Is it arrogant to think of pc as the "proper" place for RPG's?

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Posted by uninspiredcup (24709 posts) 3 years, 4 months ago

Poll: Is it arrogant to think of pc as the "proper" place for RPG's? (88 votes)

Yes 48%
No 52%

My friends, is it arrogant to think of the proper "place" for western RPG's? That, in order to be great, they should be primarily built or purely built with pc in mind?

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#1 Edited by BldgIrsh (3044 posts) -

Any game should be built for primarily the PC. Now the better question is why is a consolite asking these questions.

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#2 Posted by cainetao11 (32290 posts) -

If you were a PC? Yes. As a person, you're just a human with an opinion. And opinions only matter to the owner of them.

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#3 Posted by SYSTEM-REBOOT (658 posts) -

PC is proper place for not only RPG but FPS too.

when making RPG in console in mind, they suffer as a result we have seen bad games like mass effect, skyrim, fallout 3. same as FPS and see how they become. COD, battlefield. because they are build with console in mind

Torchlight 2, witcher (time PC exclusive) and now divinity orignal sin are best RPG in years. while hard reset and shadow warrior are best FPS in years

reason? PC build games

console are better for action adventure, fighting stuff like that genre. but not FPS or RPG.

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#4 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@system-reboot said:

PC is proper place for not only RPG but FPS too.

when making RPG in console in mind, they suffer as a result we have seen bad games like mass effect, skyrim, fallout 3. same as FPS and see how they become. COD, battlefield. because they are build with console in mind

Torchlight 2, witcher (time PC exclusive) and now divinity orignal sin are best RPG in years. while hard reset and shadow warrior are best FPS in years

reason? PC build games

console are better for action adventure, fighting stuff like that genre. but not FPS or RPG.

well at least you didn't say STALKER

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#5 Posted by heretrix (37792 posts) -

Arrogant and stupid.

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#6 Posted by clone01 (26969 posts) -

You need a hobby, TC. Might I suggest gaming?

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#7 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@heretrix said:

Arrogant and stupid.

sounds like a pretty good description of uninspiredcup

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#8 Posted by santoron (8583 posts) -

Arrogant? Maybe.

Senseless and moronic? Absolutely.

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#9 Posted by SYSTEM-REBOOT (658 posts) -

@lostrib said:.

well at least you didn't say STALKER

I said in years mean 1-2 years.

its a decade old game

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#10 Posted by Heil68 (57686 posts) -

All genres can be enjoyed on consoles.

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#11 Posted by uninspiredcup (24709 posts) -

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

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#12 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

...except Dragon Age Origins has a 91 metascore, and an 8.5 user score

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#13 Edited by uninspiredcup (24709 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

...except Dragon Age Origins has a 91 metascore, and an 8.5 user score

Dragon Age 2 built for consoles, hated. Bioware men hated. EA hated.

Me = right

^^^

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#14 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

...except Dragon Age Origins has a 91 metascore, and an 8.5 user score

Dragon Age 2 built for consoles, hated. Bioware men hated. EA hated.

Me = right

^^^

Except that's not what you said

you=dumb

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#15 Posted by kaealy (2126 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

It did ruin the series - they released Dragon age dynasty warriors extreme 2 edition. God how awful that game was. There's no reason for that combat system besides putting it on consoles.

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#16 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (30810 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

All genres can be enjoyed on consoles.

Except simulation and strategy games ....

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#17 Edited by uninspiredcup (24709 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

...except Dragon Age Origins has a 91 metascore, and an 8.5 user score

Dragon Age 2 built for consoles, hated. Bioware men hated. EA hated.

Me = right

^^^

Except that's not what you said

you=dumb

It appears you misread my chupacabra.

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#18 Edited by LadyBlue (4943 posts) -

Anything that comes from you is arrogant & inconsequential.

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#19 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@uninspiredcup: ...except it wasn't a series at that point.and considering the first game was well received, it's doubtful anyone said that

Of course you do have a history of lying here

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#20 Posted by AdobeArtist (24616 posts) -

@blue_hazy_basic said:

@Heil68 said:

All genres can be enjoyed on consoles.

Except simulation and strategy games ....

But consoles are capable of handling most genres, and that includes RPGs.

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#21 Posted by clone01 (26969 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

Don't lie. You have no friends.

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#22 Edited by Cloud_imperium (14291 posts) -

No . I played both on consoles and PCs but RPGs , just like FPS are meant to be played on PC . Lot of people think the FPS and RPGs are successfully migrated to consoles but that's not true . All of them are dumbed down experiences . Look at any PC RPG and compare it with new RPG only available on consoles , it'll make console RPG look like Action game with few RPG elements .

There are few complicated RPGs on consoles like Demon Souls but such games aren't complete package (Some lack story , others lack complexity etc).

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#23 Posted by DerekLoffin (9018 posts) -
@kaealy said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

It did ruin the series - they released Dragon age dynasty warriors extreme 2 edition. God how awful that game was. There's no reason for that combat system besides putting it on consoles.

Save the fact the original was on consoles too and it's combat system was nothing to write home about. You need a better example. In truth, the only advantage the PC gains in this respect is in the MMO genera where you have tons of key binds and need them all very quickly, but that structure is very rare, even in PC exclusives.

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#24 Posted by Kevlar101 (6316 posts) -

It's arrogant to think PC is superior, period.

PC gamers are some of the most narcissistic, belligerent self-righteous assholes I know of.

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#25 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

Don't lie. You have no friends.

he knows it's so offensive being called friend by him so that's why he does it.

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#26 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -
@Kevlar101 said:

It's arrogant to think PC is superior, period.

Yeah because facts doesn't show it is in fact superior.

Fuk logic - consolites

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#27 Posted by jg4xchamp (61445 posts) -

Western RPG's that shaped the genre tend to be more complex and nuanced, because they are built with a mouse and keyboard in mind. The most complex a western rpg on consoles has been is New Vegas (which is admittedly fantastic), and then a bunch of dumbed down games like Oblivion, Fallout 3, and the mass effect series.

So it's not arrogance, it's just flat out when you build around a mouse and keyboard, you can build a deeper game than anything you can make for a console. Gamepads by their design are meant for more accessible in comparison.

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#28 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (9263 posts) -

Just because western developers haven't put a good RPG on consoles in ages doesn't mean it can't be done.

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#29 Posted by MBirdy88 (12054 posts) -

@blue_hazy_basic said:

@Heil68 said:

All genres can be enjoyed on consoles.

Except simulation and strategy games ....

and most moba and mmos ... that are not snail's pace like FFXIV is.

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#30 Edited by Kevlar101 (6316 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:
@Kevlar101 said:

It's arrogant to think PC is superior, period.

Yeah because facts doesn't show it is in fact superior.

Fuk logic - consolites

Oh yeah, because opinions are totally facts.

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#32 Posted by cfisher2833 (2150 posts) -

With the release of Divinity Original Sin, and the soon to be released Wasteland 2 and Pillars of Eternity...no, it's not arrogant at all. It's truth.

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#33 Edited by R4gn4r0k (26839 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

All genres can be enjoyed on consoles.

I have found no enjoyment playing RTS on consoles...

Except for Patapon. I <3 patapon

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#34 Edited by Shielder7 (5191 posts) -

Irrelevant they haven't made a good RPG since the Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate days excluding dungeon crawlers and maybe the Witcher.

I'm saying maybe the witcher because I don't create a character from scratch so I don't consider it 100% RPG.

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#35 Posted by Shielder7 (5191 posts) -

@system-reboot said:

PC is proper place for not only RPG but FPS too.

when making RPG in console in mind, they suffer as a result we have seen bad games like mass effect, skyrim, fallout 3. same as FPS and see how they become. COD, battlefield. because they are build with console in mind

Torchlight 2, witcher (time PC exclusive) and now divinity orignal sin are best RPG in years. while hard reset and shadow warrior are best FPS in years

reason? PC build games

console are better for action adventure, fighting stuff like that genre. but not FPS or RPG.

Demon Souls Says hi

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#37 Edited by Maroxad (14461 posts) -

PC as the place for WRPGs?: No
PC as the place for RPGs? hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahasaha, not only is it arrogant but it is also seriously wrong.

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#38 Posted by vl4d_l3nin (1091 posts) -

No, just incorrect.

RPG inherently take a lot of time to play, and are best suited for a couch.

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#39 Posted by sam890 (1108 posts) -

@Kevlar101 said:

It's arrogant to think PC is superior, period.

PC gamers are some of the most narcissistic, belligerent self-righteous assholes I know of.

PC hardware is farrrrrr superior. But have you seen the Cows ?

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#40 Posted by uninspiredcup (24709 posts) -

@Maroxad said:

PC as the place for WRPGs?: No

PC as the place for RPGs? hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahasaha, not only is it arrogant but it is also seriously wrong.

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#41 Edited by MonsieurX (36673 posts) -

@Shielder7 said:

@system-reboot said:

PC is proper place for not only RPG but FPS too.

when making RPG in console in mind, they suffer as a result we have seen bad games like mass effect, skyrim, fallout 3. same as FPS and see how they become. COD, battlefield. because they are build with console in mind

Torchlight 2, witcher (time PC exclusive) and now divinity orignal sin are best RPG in years. while hard reset and shadow warrior are best FPS in years

reason? PC build games

console are better for action adventure, fighting stuff like that genre. but not FPS or RPG.

Demon Souls Says hi

But let's forget about Dark Souls

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#42 Posted by Gaming-Planet (18545 posts) -

Skyrim is still one of the most played game on Steam.

So many mods, great community, and it feels right on a keyboard/mouse.

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#43 Edited by Shielder7 (5191 posts) -

@kaealy said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

It did ruin the series - they released Dragon age dynasty warriors extreme 2 edition. God how awful that game was. There's no reason for that combat system besides putting it on consoles.

WTF are you talking about Dragon age started on PC, 360 and PS 3 so how in the hell could it ruin it if it always on it? Dragon age never moved to consoles because it was always on consoles and lets face it Dragon age was nothing to write home about it was dated even back than.

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#44 Edited by uninspiredcup (24709 posts) -

@Shielder7 said:

@kaealy said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, as soon as Dragon Age was announced for consoles, the response was "this will ruin the series".

Then, reality rewarded this viewpoint with vindication.

It did ruin the series - they released Dragon age dynasty warriors extreme 2 edition. God how awful that game was. There's no reason for that combat system besides putting it on consoles.

WTF are you talking about Dragon age started on PC, 360 and PS 3 so how in the hell could it ruin it if it always on it? Dragon age never moved to consoles because it was always on consoles and lets face it Dragon age was nothing to write home about it was dated even back than.

Dragon Age: Origins was built (and in development) for the pc for years. It was pc built.

Then, EA's marketing team told them to focus on consoles first and foremost, thus, Dragon Age 2.

Even from early trailers it was clear to see EA's marketing team was pandering, attempting to sell it off as something completely different, as opposed to a elfs and wizards neckbeard game.

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#45 Edited by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

@Kevlar101 said:

@Krelian-co said:
@Kevlar101 said:

It's arrogant to think PC is superior, period.

Yeah because facts doesn't show it is in fact superior.

Fuk logic - consolites

Oh yeah, because opinions are totally facts.

is it opinion that it can run games at better resolutions? better fps? all eye candy on? that has mods? that you save a lot in games?

which games are better THAT'S subjective, which one runs them better, that's not.

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#46 Edited by Minishdriveby (10520 posts) -

I understand that mindset when you have a dedicated communities who strive to make games better on PC through various mods. This can especially be seen in WRPGs like Elder Scrolls.

Also what @jg4xchamp said about complexity due control input options.

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#47 Posted by uninspiredcup (24709 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@Krelian-co said:
@Kevlar101 said:

It's arrogant to think PC is superior, period.

Yeah because facts doesn't show it is in fact superior.

Fuk logic - consolites

Oh yeah, because opinions are totally facts.

is it opinion that it can run games at better resolutions? better fps? all eye candy on? that has mods? that you save a lot in games?

which games are better THAT'S subjective, which one runs them better, that's not.

This is an excellent and incredibly intelligent point from the forums most impressive user, objectively, pc's are better.

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#48 Edited by Dasein808 (758 posts) -

Hiroshima & Nagasaki ruined what JRPGs could have been.

I have never wanted to play as a toddler with oversized eyes, 300000 HP, and an ability to hit for 50k.

JRPGs are generally bubblegum shit.

WRPGs belong on PCs because JRPGs are for simple minded peasants that enjoy playing as children.

Most adults don't want your homoerotic, Kojima inspired drek; so you're welcome to claim it as exclusive, as though it's a point of pride.

The only ones that will care are the recent console refugees still not clear on the concept of an adult gaming platform.

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#49 Edited by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@Krelian-co said:
@Kevlar101 said:

It's arrogant to think PC is superior, period.

Yeah because facts doesn't show it is in fact superior.

Fuk logic - consolites

Oh yeah, because opinions are totally facts.

is it opinion that it can run games at better resolutions? better fps? all eye candy on? that has mods? that you save a lot in games?

which games are better THAT'S subjective, which one runs them better, that's not.

This is an excellent and incredibly intelligent point from the forums most impressive user, objectively, pc's are better.

thank you, now i'm going to take the words of the most beloved genius in this forum and cram them up in my garbage can, where they belong