Is FF7 Remake gonna suck?

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#1 Posted by MarkoftheSivak (380 posts) -

I think we need to look at this.

It's been in development hell for too long.
It was changed from a single game to episodic mid-development.
It was turned into a ARPG mid-development as well.

How can one have any faith in this game with these three red flags? Because of a video of one battle?

This game is going to flop. Hard.

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#2 Posted by lundy86_4 (53598 posts) -

I'll wait and see.

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#3 Posted by DaVillain- (37411 posts) -

FF7 remake wasn't on my radar and still own the original anyways. Will it suck on release day? Don't know, don't care.

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#4 Posted by omegaMaster (1310 posts) -

Not a fan of it being an episodic release. Can't tell if it's going to suck since I haven't played it.

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#5 Edited by Archangel3371 (28342 posts) -

I don’t think it will myself. Everything that I’ve seen and heard about the game looks awesome.

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#6 Posted by MirkoS77 (14341 posts) -

I was hyped until I heard the battle system was real-time. That one change negates my entire interest for the remake.

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#7 Posted by ProtossRushX (5591 posts) -

it'll be better than the garbage xb1 and PC are getting

this thing is ps4 exclusive baby for years lol

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#8 Edited by lundy86_4 (53598 posts) -

@ProtossRushX said:

it'll be better than the garbage xb1 and PC are getting

this thing is ps4 exclusive baby for years lol

That Switch riding had to fall by the wayside at some point lol.

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#9 Posted by djoffer (1420 posts) -

Terrible thread, please try again...

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#10 Posted by Jag85 (13595 posts) -

The video showed that they got the core combat mechanics right and struck the right balance. The action combat mechanics look very polished, while they've retained a form of ATB as a tactical option, managing to satisfy fans of both ARPG and ATB combat.

There's no need to worry much about the story, because we already know the story is good from the original. The main issue was always the combat, whether they'd go action or ATB. And by managing to do both, sort of, they've restored faith and generated hype.

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#11 Posted by uninspiredcup (34257 posts) -

Every modern FF game gets hyped, then upon release immediately dumped on. The only exception Realm Reborn, which itself was a redo of a messed up game.

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#12 Posted by WitIsWisdom (5294 posts) -

More than likely yes... However, it sounds as though its production value is going to be quite high, so people will praise it to high hell no matter what. I will reserve my judgment until I get a chance to play it, but everything I have heard so far has me more than a little worried.

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#13 Posted by DaVillain- (37411 posts) -

@ProtossRushX said:

it'll be better than the garbage xb1 and PC are getting

this thing is ps4 exclusive baby for years lol

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#14 Posted by Heirren (2179 posts) -

I think theyll ditch the episodic nature and i dont think its development hell. They announced it too early and then realized how much time it would take to do the game world justice, under a realtime setting. My guess is that it arrives around the first holiday season of the ps5, and if ps5 launches during the holidays it will launch with it or 4 to 6 months afterwards.

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#15 Posted by Fedor (5261 posts) -

No.

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#16 Posted by omegaMaster (1310 posts) -

@uninspiredcup: That is why I don't hype up future Final Fantasy games anymore. FF13, 14 and 15 have been a let down at launch

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#17 Posted by I_P_Daily (12269 posts) -

@ProtossRushX said:

it'll be better than the garbage xb1 and PC are getting

this thing is ps4 exclusive baby for years lol

And what about the Switch???

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#18 Posted by ProtossRushX (5591 posts) -
@i_p_daily said:
@ProtossRushX said:

it'll be better than the garbage xb1 and PC are getting

this thing is ps4 exclusive baby for years lol

And what about the Switch???

Switch is winning the whole thing so its fine :|

This is only a thorn in the Switch's side

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#19 Posted by lamprey263 (36172 posts) -

i never liked the original all that much, playing it in past years is more a nostalgia thing, anyhow, I can't see myself liking this less, I don't think it'll suck, but given how revered the original is I can either see people's love for FF7 being reinvigorated or possibly polar opposite, people love original so much but might just hate on this simply because it's not the original, or maybe something else will go on, maybe those people who act like the integrity of gaming is on the line unless all gamers draw a line in the sand over Tifa's boobs... seriously, not that I personally entertain such BS but there's plenty who will, and gaming community is an echo-chamber, so whoever screams first and loudest about this game may possibly dictate the gaming community's collectivve opinion about it

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#20 Posted by Speeny (1858 posts) -

Who knows. I'm not keen on them releasing it in episodic form. That's why I'll wait until everything is available. I loved the original game at least & if I don't end up playing the remake, it is what it is.

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#21 Posted by I_P_Daily (12269 posts) -

@ProtossRushX said:
@i_p_daily said:
@ProtossRushX said:

it'll be better than the garbage xb1 and PC are getting

this thing is ps4 exclusive baby for years lol

And what about the Switch???

Switch is winning the whole thing so its fine :|

This is only a thorn in the Switch's side

How would you know as you don't have a Switch.

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#22 Posted by djoffer (1420 posts) -

@heirren: it’s already been confirmed to arrive March 2020..

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#23 Posted by PC_Rocks (2548 posts) -

Of course , it's made by SE and like Bethesda their in house developed IPs have all been shit for a long time.

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#24 Posted by Ten_Pints (3864 posts) -

The fact that they dumbed down the combat system instead of making it more complex means it's gonna be bad.

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#25 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (9748 posts) -

It will almost certainly be inferior to the original. They should have just updated the graphics and kept the gameplay intact.

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#26 Posted by Subspecies (660 posts) -

It was never in development hell. It'll be fine.

/thread

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#27 Posted by SOedipus (11544 posts) -

Most likely.

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#28 Posted by Valgaav_219 (2469 posts) -

I doubt it. Trailers look good. And it may be episodic but if each episode is taking 40-50 hours then it's worth it. Haters gone hate lol

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#29 Posted by vl4d_l3nin (1914 posts) -

It will probably be better than the original. That game had very short development and it shows.

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#30 Posted by ChrisChronos (155 posts) -

@MarkoftheSivak

"It's been in development hell for too long."

Maybe? Probably not to the same extent as FFXV's development.. I mean, other than them ditching CyberConnect2 devs and the old material.. I don't think we really know if it went through hellish development beyond that..

"It was changed from a single game to episodic mid-development."

It was? I don't recall this ever being the case. People have been talking about the whole episodic thing for years now, complaining about it constantly. I'm pretty sure it was known pretty early shortly after the announcement that it was episodic.

"It was turned into a ARPG mid-development as well."

No.. I don't recall this one either? I mean it was pretty clear at the time of the FF7 remake announcement all those years ago that Square-Enix doesn't really want to make turn based combat systems for FF anymore, I think SE may have even said something along those lines but it was pretty much confirmed to be action combat right as we got the first real gameplay footage which was the old content whilst CyberConnect2 involved.

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#31 Edited by James_xeno (624 posts) -

@MirkoS77 said:

I was hyped until I heard the battle system was real-time. That one change negates my entire interest for the remake.

This! Not that it being cut into a multi-part mess isn't a major turn-off, or the other unneeded changes. As well as a few other 'concerns' too.

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#32 Posted by IvanGrozny (908 posts) -

Yep I stopped caring after they told it will be episodic.

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#33 Posted by Jag85 (13595 posts) -

@vl4d_l3nin said:

It will probably be better than the original. That game had very short development and it shows.

The original FFVII was in development for 2-3 years, and had a production budget of $45 million (about $75 million adjusted for inflation). Up until then, FFVII was the most expensive video game ever, by far. Its budget dwarfed the budgets of all other video games at the time.

The high budget clearly showed in the quality and quantity of the pre-rendered CGI (backdrops and FMV), which was a big leap foward at the time. The original CGI assets were actually hi-res, but were downscaled for the game. Not sure if Square still have the original CGI assets, but they could've easily remastered the original FFVII if they just used the original hi-res CGI assets.

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#34 Posted by nepu7supastar7 (5136 posts) -

@MarkoftheSivak:

I have a lot of faith that it will more than live up to the hype. Especially after playing Final Fantasy XV. It was phenomenal in terms of gameplay! All FFXV was missing was a good story and characters. Now we got all of that with FFVII Remake!

Best of all, it will be expanded upon tremendously. This giving a whole lotta depth and detail that Final Fantasy VII never had. On this scale, FFVII Remake could stand to be THE BEST Final Fantasy ever. It'll finally live up to the pedestal fans have put it on.

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#35 Posted by Valgaav_219 (2469 posts) -

@nepu7supastar7 said:

@MarkoftheSivak:

I have a lot of faith that it will more than live up to the hype. Especially after playing Final Fantasy XV. It was phenomenal in terms of gameplay! All FFXV was missing was a good story and characters. Now we got all of that with FFVII Remake!

Best of all, it will be expanded upon tremendously. This giving a whole lotta depth and detail that Final Fantasy VII never had. On this scale, FFVII Remake could stand to be THE BEST Final Fantasy ever. It'll finally live up to the pedestal fans have put it on.

I have a love/hate relationship with FFXV. It's not really fun just holding circle to fight. And why did every NPC sound like they're from the southern United States in the country somewhere? It was really weird. The graphics and music were good. I even like the fishing game. And that Leviathan fight may be my favorite fight from any Final Fantasy. Overall I was very disappointed with the barebones story and boy band-esque party that give you no choices or versatility because you play with the same 4 people the whole game.

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#36 Posted by FlawlessPoop (160 posts) -

probably. the original suck too.

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#37 Edited by ArchoNils2 (10399 posts) -

According to those who actually played it is seems to be pretty good. It's far away from what I hoped it to be, but I doubt it'll be "bad". Disappointing for sure, but not objectivly bad.

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#38 Posted by I_P_Daily (12269 posts) -

I just found out that 8 is being remastered and getting released this year so to hell with 7.

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#39 Edited by ThatDBFan (403 posts) -

Pretty sure it won't. from what we've seen and heard, it seems pretty big.

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#41 Posted by blamix (858 posts) -

I don't think so. But maybe cause Kingdom Hearts 3 did suck

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#42 Posted by MarkoftheSivak (380 posts) -

I kind of hope it does suck because i wanted a remake of FF7 but i wanted it when it was turn-based and an all-in-one game. This episodic is bullshit.

No other episode is going to match the first, I am thinking they will be deplorable/extremely low on content after the first, IF they even get released.

Quote me on it.

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#43 Posted by dalger21 (2174 posts) -

This one will be a hard pass for me until all of the episodes are sold together. Hate that they are making it episodic.

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#44 Posted by ArchoNils2 (10399 posts) -

@dalger21 said:

This one will be a hard pass for me until all of the episodes are sold together. Hate that they are making it episodic.

haha, enjoy playing it in 2032 on the Ps6 :D