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#1  Edited By indzman
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Currently playing Fallout 4 Vanilla. Weapon and Armor's constant repairing removed, enemies don't scale to your level but area wise, POWER ARMOR is fvcking awesome, Tons of skills and Perks ( You can upgrade all the perks without being locked out by level cap), Crafting resources for settlements,Looks and Plays great at least on PC ( optimisation ).

Is FALLOUT 4 best Bethesda game yet? or do you consider Skyrim or any other Bethesda game much better?

Well?

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Bethesda doesn't make games. They make a toolset for the PC mod community to make good games with.

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#3  Edited By mark1974
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@indzman: I think it was but I don't expect much agreement. I loved the the settlement building. I cracked out on that hardcore.

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@indzman:

My favorite Fallout yet! Over 200 hours goin' and beyond! Daaaayum, son!!

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Well FO4 on PS4 was a big letdown. They need to rework that engine from the ground up and not just the small updates they like to do. The game could have been a 9/10 but all the bugs and dated features made it feel more like a 6ish/10. That being said I have not played a ton of their older stuff so I guess its the best. Could have been so much better though.

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#6  Edited By mems_1224
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Fallout 4 is a good game but Skyrim and Morrowind obliterate it

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#7 Ballroompirate
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Skyrim aka Godrim says hi

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I don't think F4 is bad. I did get into F3 more. And Morrowind a lot more

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@indzman said:

Currently playing Fallout 4 Vanilla. Weapon and Armor's constant repairing removed, enemies don't scale to your level but area wise, POWER ARMOR is fvcking awesome, Tons of skills and Perks ( You can upgrade all the perks without being locked out by level cap), Crafting resources for settlements,Looks and Plays great at least on PC ( optimisation ).

Is FALLOUT 4 best Bethesda game yet? or do you consider Skyrim or any other Bethesda game much better?

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Fallout 4 is the best game ever made.

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#10 Kruiz_Bathory
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I haven't played many of their games but I can say with confidence: **** no.

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#11 indzman
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@commander said:
@indzman said:

Currently playing Fallout 4 Vanilla. Weapon and Armor's constant repairing removed, enemies don't scale to your level but area wise, POWER ARMOR is fvcking awesome, Tons of skills and Perks ( You can upgrade all the perks without being locked out by level cap), Crafting resources for settlements,Looks and Plays great at least on PC ( optimisation ).

Is FALLOUT 4 best Bethesda game yet? or do you consider Skyrim or any other Bethesda game much better?

Well?

Fallout 4 is the best game ever made.

mhm

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Bethesda doesn't make games. They make a toolset for the PC mod community to make good games with.

Yeah, that's the only reason why I even bother playing Bethesda games. Vanilla fallout 4 is so bland.

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@commander said:
@indzman said:

Currently playing Fallout 4 Vanilla. Weapon and Armor's constant repairing removed, enemies don't scale to your level but area wise, POWER ARMOR is fvcking awesome, Tons of skills and Perks ( You can upgrade all the perks without being locked out by level cap), Crafting resources for settlements,Looks and Plays great at least on PC ( optimisation ).

Is FALLOUT 4 best Bethesda game yet? or do you consider Skyrim or any other Bethesda game much better?

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Fallout 4 is the best game ever made.

This is an example of how an opinion can be factually wrong.

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#14  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

I haven't played many of their games but I can say with confidence: **** no.

Their others aren't much better, so you have solace in that fact.

Morrowind was their best game.

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Morrowind and Skyrim IMO. A lot of people like Daggerfall too.

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I preferred new Vegas, it felt your actions affected the world in the new Vegas.

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Daggerfall/Morrowind

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#18 heguain
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I haven't played all of their games, I tried only Fallout 3 and Skyrim, hated both so much. Fallout 4 blew my mind.

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@DragonfireXZ95: I have it on steam but I've never bothered to play it much because 1) It crashes a lot and I haven't looked for a patch 2) graphics are fugly but I will mod it 3) The never ending backlog issue. I know I will like it though.

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#20 Planeforger
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I'd put it in Bethesda's bottom 3.

It's the only recent Bethesda game I haven't finished, because it is incredibly boring and monotonous. It's not a technical disaster and it isn't completely incompetently designed, which puts it a step above Oblivion and Fallout 3...but it's not a particularly good game either.

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Fallout 4 is the definition of trash.

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#22 freedomfreak
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Oblivion.

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#23  Edited By commander
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@commander said:
@indzman said:

Currently playing Fallout 4 Vanilla. Weapon and Armor's constant repairing removed, enemies don't scale to your level but area wise, POWER ARMOR is fvcking awesome, Tons of skills and Perks ( You can upgrade all the perks without being locked out by level cap), Crafting resources for settlements,Looks and Plays great at least on PC ( optimisation ).

Is FALLOUT 4 best Bethesda game yet? or do you consider Skyrim or any other Bethesda game much better?

Well?

Fallout 4 is the best game ever made.

This is an example of how an opinion can be factually wrong.

why? because you have a different opinion?

or because it runs like crap on the ps4 lmao

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#24 speedfreak48t5p  Online
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Fallout 3 is the "best" game from those guys, which isn't saying much.

Now, New Vegas on the other hand, is GOAT.

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#25 Maroxad
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One of the worst actually.

@indzman said:

Currently playing Fallout 4 Vanilla. Weapon and Armor's constant repairing removed, enemies don't scale to your level but area wise, POWER ARMOR is fvcking awesome, Tons of skills and Perks ( You can upgrade all the perks without being locked out by level cap), Crafting resources for settlements,Looks and Plays great at least on PC ( optimisation ).

Is FALLOUT 4 best Bethesda game yet? or do you consider Skyrim or any other Bethesda game much better?

Well?

Bolded the bad.
Strikethrough through the false.

Weapon and armor repairing was one of the few things Fallout 3 actually got right.
Enemies scaling to areas is a ridicilous concept.
Power Armor System was a mess, utterly trivializing even the highest difficulty. And you would find a power armor 10 minutes into the game.
Being able to master everything is incredibly detrimental to roleplaying. Unless you like roleplaying Mary Sues.
Settlement system was an awful time waster that added nothing of value to the game.
The game on my end was a technical disaster, running into technical issues as often I do on this website. Also... the control scheme was not very PC friendly at all.

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#26 navyguy21
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Fallout 4 might be their worst, aside from settlement building anyway.

Oblivion, Morrowind, Skyrim, Fallout 3 were all better.

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@Maroxad said:

One of the worst actually.

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@commander said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@commander said:
@indzman said:

Currently playing Fallout 4 Vanilla. Weapon and Armor's constant repairing removed, enemies don't scale to your level but area wise, POWER ARMOR is fvcking awesome, Tons of skills and Perks ( You can upgrade all the perks without being locked out by level cap), Crafting resources for settlements,Looks and Plays great at least on PC ( optimisation ).

Is FALLOUT 4 best Bethesda game yet? or do you consider Skyrim or any other Bethesda game much better?

Well?

Fallout 4 is the best game ever made.

This is an example of how an opinion can be factually wrong.

why? because you have a different opinion?

or because it runs like crap on the ps4 lmao

I didn't notice any performance issues when I played it. I believe those are only present in the DLC anyway. The game just sucks. It's ugly, boring and unremarkable in every way. Besides weren't you the idiot trying to damage control Uncharted 4 with Fifa before? You just have really bad taste in games.

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#29 LustForSoul
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I don't care much for Skyrim or Fallout, they just have big worlds and that's it. My favorite is probably Hunted: The demon's forge, which didn't sell well or look great. I liked it though.

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#30 deactivated-5a8875b6c648f
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Nah, Skyrim was better.

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#31 Shottayouth13-
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Not even close.

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#32  Edited By rrjim1
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@commander said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@commander said:
@indzman said:

Currently playing Fallout 4 Vanilla. Weapon and Armor's constant repairing removed, enemies don't scale to your level but area wise, POWER ARMOR is fvcking awesome, Tons of skills and Perks ( You can upgrade all the perks without being locked out by level cap), Crafting resources for settlements,Looks and Plays great at least on PC ( optimisation ).

Is FALLOUT 4 best Bethesda game yet? or do you consider Skyrim or any other Bethesda game much better?

Well?

Fallout 4 is the best game ever made.

This is an example of how an opinion can be factually wrong.

why? because you have a different opinion?

or because it runs like crap on the ps4 lmao

I didn't notice any performance issues when I played it. I believe those are only present in the DLC anyway. The game just sucks. It's ugly, boring and unremarkable in every way. Besides weren't you the idiot trying to damage control Uncharted 4 with Fifa before? You just have really bad taste in games.

IMO, your opinion is about as bad as it gets!

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#33 lundy86_4
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Not even close. I haven't even finished it, because I just got "meh'd" out.

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#34  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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Yeh...I like Fallout 4 much more than Fallout 3, Oblivion and Skyrim.

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#35 xantufrog  Moderator
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I'd say it's their best since Oblivion. But Oblivion and Morrowind (Morrowind especially) are of a much higher caliber. I don't get the obsession people have with Skyrim. I wanted to love it to death but could not

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#36 DragonfireXZ95
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@thehig1 said:

I preferred new Vegas, it felt your actions affected the world in the new Vegas.

New Vegas was Obsidian. Not Bethesda.

Which is why New Vegas was 10 times better.

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#37 johnd13
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I enjoyed it less than Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3.

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#38  Edited By aroxx_ab
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I dont like Fallout games, Oblivion and Skyrim is my 2 top games from them.

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#39 indzman
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@Maroxad said:

One of the worst actually.

@indzman said:

Currently playing Fallout 4 Vanilla. Weapon and Armor's constant repairing removed, enemies don't scale to your level but area wise, POWER ARMOR is fvcking awesome, Tons of skills and Perks ( You can upgrade all the perks without being locked out by level cap), Crafting resources for settlements,Looks and Plays great at least on PC ( optimisation ).

Is FALLOUT 4 best Bethesda game yet? or do you consider Skyrim or any other Bethesda game much better?

Well?

Bolded the bad.

Strikethrough through the false.

Weapon and armor repairing was one of the few things Fallout 3 actually got right.

Enemies scaling to areas is a ridicilous concept.

Power Armor System was a mess, utterly trivializing even the highest difficulty. And you would find a power armor 10 minutes into the game.

Being able to master everything is incredibly detrimental to roleplaying. Unless you like roleplaying Mary Sues.

Settlement system was an awful time waster that added nothing of value to the game.

The game on my end was a technical disaster, running into technical issues as often I do on this website. Also... the control scheme was not very PC friendly at all.

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Fallout 3 and Oblivion were far better. I have maybe 40 hrs in FO4, where at this point in time I would be halfway through my second playthrough in 3 or Oblivion...........

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God no. Skyrim is still their best game. It has the best base to work with and people have done some amazing things with it. Falskaar, Beyond Reach, Summerset Isle and Enderal all attest to that.

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#42 Boddicker
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FO4? Best?

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#43 Jag85
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It's an improvement over Fallout 3 and Skyrim, at the very least.

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#44 pelvist
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No, Morrowind is. The game may not have aged well but at its time I was blown away by how good Morrowind was. I cant say the same about any other Bethesda game.

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#45 sukraj
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@charizard1605 said:

Fallout 4 is the definition of trash.

I like the game it is far from being a trash game

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#46  Edited By Maroxad
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@foxhound_fox said:

Bethesda doesn't make games. They make a toolset for the PC mod community to make good games with.

@Whiteblade999 said:

God no. Skyrim is still their best game. It has the best base to work with and people have done some amazing things with it. Falskaar, Beyond Reach, Summerset Isle and Enderal all attest to that.

These two posts together syngergize really well.

Once Enderal gets an english release, I will probably make a thread for it.

Edit: Fallout 4 was a terrible base for modding. Look at how uninspiring the modding scene has been so far, and even the modding tools werent all that well recieved.

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#47 22Toothpicks
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Despite the hate FO4 gets on SW I think its a good game, a solid 8/10 from me. Certainly not their best though. Morrowind is their best effort IMO.

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#48  Edited By Maroxad
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@indzman said:

Yes, it is me again, the man who actually has taste and standards. I like my games to be at least competent in one area or 2. Divinity Original Sin was, this wasn't.

Unmodded, Bethesda games are like a massive swimming pool of sewer water. Sure, you can pride yourself in its size, but that just means more sewage for you to swim through.

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#49 Crypt_mx
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Bethesda's best and most memorable game imo is Oblivion. There are just so many parts that stuck with me, I'm no achievement hunter, but I played it so much that I had every achievement (360)

Fallout 3 was their biggest surprise , Skyrim has awesome mod support . I've yet to play FO4 because I was sidetracked by the witcher but ill pick it up soon enough.

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#50 indzman
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@Maroxad said:
@indzman said:

Yes, it is me again, the man who actually has taste and standards. I like my games to be at least competent in one area or 2. Divinity Original Sin was, this wasn't.

Unmodded, Bethesda games are like a massive swimming pool of sewer water. Sure, you can pride yourself in its size, but that just means more sewage for you to swim through.

Not saying you got poor taste, you probably've played more rpg than me. BUT you nitpick on negetives too much on most games. Say if i'm wrong on this :P