Is evil within 2 better than Resident evil 4?

Hello

So my dear friends, evil within 1 was the game that was lable as spritual successor to resident evil 4. but after the game released it turn out really bad, broken and horribly optimize. fast forward evil within 2 just released and after playing it. its miles a head of original in every way. it runs like a butter while original run like crap, it controls much better, combat is very much improved, story seem better too.

now lets compare it to resident evil 4 or could i say series in general. imo it did everything better than resi 4. resi 4 was overrated and mediocre game with bad combat and controls. this however is much better in this regards. sabestian is also better character than leon s kenedy (lenardo dicarpio). 5 and 6 were the game that even fans hated while 7 is major improvement and new breed of franchise.

evil within 2 is not some sort of masterpiece but its a pretty good game and this spritual successor is much better than resident evil franchise.

what do you think?

Discuss

No.

Unless they patch in the Red9.

Lol no. Resident Evil 4 is a GOAT.

Oh yea, Resident Evil 4 is a deservingly influential game, but it's mechanically it's totally broken.

Every regular enemy in the game can be cheesed by simply head-shot + kick + spam slash repeated over and over. Enemies will almost always pause 2 foot in front of player, so this is viable at all times.

You can very readily spam door kick over and over, or kick a ladder down and create an endless animation loop. This deals with any special enemies.

The most difficult enemies in the game are all cheesed with incredible ease.

Majority of bosses as well are easily exploited.

It has a few naff vehicle sections as well, particularly the jet ski section at the end, totally out of place with the rest of the game, compared to something like Halflife 2. And arguably some of the worst escort missions seen in a game.

You can shove her in a bin, but it basically nullifies the gameplay, and if you're wanting to do that in the first place, it's not very good to begin with. Halflife 2 actually had the AI protect the player at the beginning using the flashlight as a camera in role reversal and then later morphing the mechanics as a combat companion in a siege section.

Incredibly creative.

sniper, all your threads are rubbish from the beginning of time. Please stop

resident evil 7 is better game.

If SOMA was a tiny bit too scary to play, and Amnesia was too scary, but RE4 was barely doable, do you think I'd stand a reasonable chance of finishing Evil Within 2?

Many games are far better than RE4 in many different elements RE4 did really bad , the most overated action/shooter game of all time considering its broken gameplay shooting mechanics that combined with everything else RE4 does bad ... oh boy. Disaster

Its for a reason why many people saying it didnt age well for a shooter let alone many newcomers find it mediocre at best.

im glad im not only one here who think resi 4 was bad.

it doesnot age well because it was a terrible game when it was released. I played the 2014 enhanced version on PC and it was awful that i gave up more i play. i hate the idea that you cant shoot while walk. such a lazy design.

I ran this through my 'super gamer opinion processing super computer' and after 37 minute of heavy processing, smoke and noise it gave the actual true fact that cannot be argued with.

No, it's not.

There you go. Fact.

The funny thing bro is when i was telling to everyone RE4 was crap with valid and honest reasons back when it first released i was getting so much hate and laughs, you cant imagine. As time was passing though ( years actually ) seems that more and more people started to question many of RE4 elements including its gameplay ( the infamous "cant walk while shooting" ).

They thought that because i was RE oldschool fan i was blindly hating on RE4 because was different like most of guys at the time were hating it for but it wasnt the case with me. Not that i wouldnt like for RE4 to be a survival/horror instead but it wasnt the reason i was seeing bad things in game.

And yes, exactly what i thought when i played it as well. Why the hell i cant move ? Hahaha, the most moronic and broken mechanic someone could ever think to implement in an action/shooter game ever. And when people were going nuts i was like "WTF" !! haha. I liked though the bosses and some level design. Also graphics for its era were great. But thats it.

I agree 100%

Now add the atrocious story, voice acting, the infamous RE backtracking was there , QTEs introduction something that everyone the last few years making fun of, simple puzzles just to be there , no survival elements in game which made it even less scary than the pre-rendered RE2 PS1 game and so many other things i can talk for days like stupid AI that was anti-climatic and instead to make you feel the horror had the opposite effect , broken gameplay mechanics like you cant move when you shoot.

I dont get how the hell all those critics and users and everyone were praising RE4 as the messiah of gaming or something. Some calling it masterpiece, others one of their best games ever !! How the hell is this possible with so many flaws to be something like that a masterpiece or be one of the most highest rated games ever released. I dont get it, ill never do.

I wouldn't compare the two, as they're two different kinds of horror and intent. One is meant to be more action horror like a movie. While the other is psychological horror.

Lol no. OH and Evil within 2 has some of the worst controls to date.....the heavy movement and aiming is unbearable IMO.

Yeah The Evil Within is more action-y anyway.

SOMA and Amensia are all about the horror.

I couldn't even finish Amnesia... But SOMA I absolutely loved because of its story and setting :)

A yea, that random boulder was complete bullshit.

It's sort of the Sonic Adventure of third person shooters, bought new things, but didn't do them particularly well. At least Sonic Adventure improved with it's sequel.

It's not even better than the first one.

We're not your friends, sniper.

Thanks :) I think I'll give it a shot.

Better than Metro though

Haven't played TEW2, but I doubt it. RE4 is an amazing game. Even though people have found exploits. Oh nooo, you can cheese enemies, worst game eveeeer. How about... not cheesing the enemies then? All complaints I see about RE4 are really fucking silly. Oh nooo, the enemies stop when they get close to you, worst game evveeeerr. Umm no, the game was still incredibly fun to play. You know.. the thing that matters in games. I can understand not liking the QTEs, but they were few enough to be tolerated.

Resident Evil 4 was fantastic at the time, and still holds up fairly well today.

If you're looking for the best spiritual sequel to RE4, my vote goes to Shadows of the Damned.

Is that a joke?......shadow of the damned is like a parady of RE4 if anything, you can't take that game seriously and in no way resembles the deeper story driven franchise. Not to mention SOTD sucks.

It got great reviews, though..

RE4 has horrible controls, so there's that. Also, I still haven't played Evil Within 2, so hard to judge for me.

Horror games in general suck so it’s basically deciding which game sucks the least which makes RE4 still the best by default.

Just like horror movies in real life, they are mainly low budget and garbage.

Low budget =/= garbage. Look at the movie Avatar. Gigantic budget, garbage movie.

For most horror movies, I've found foreign is the way to go. The French have it down pat compared to our American Hollywood tropes. Most of them are also low budget, but they have something called imagination, much like The Evil Dead had.

I would bet my life that evil within 2 isn't as good as re4

@DragonfireXZ95: Avatar was amazing. It also had a great story. Quit being one of those hive mind people who repeat the same garbage. I know you want to mention Avatar is just 3 movies...yawn. Same lame insult.

Guess what? Avatar is the best version of those 3 movies. Fact! Deal with it!

Pretty dumb question but hey, does Evil Within 2 have a dynamic hub world the way the original had? That was one of my favorite parts of the original.

Avatar relied in typical stereotypes to try to deliver a story to naive audiences.

1. The bad guy was a cliche guy in a suit bent on corporate takeover for profit.

2. The aliens had big eyes, and naturally, you would find them cute and innocent, so you'd automatically sympathize with them.

3. The other bad guy was a cliche stereotype that fought him in a huge mech suit, with a huge knife. A HUGE KNIFE. What a load of garbage.

4. As I mentioned before, every character is a one-note character. None of them have any sort of basic premise beyond being a plot device to further the storyline. The bad guy wants total domination of the planet, and he has no good qualities whatsoever, except that he plays golf. The good guy is a cripple, so you automatically feel sorry for him. Oh, boo hoo.

5. The story isn't anything new. infiltrating a native group and finding about about their real life struggles has been done more than a few times. I'm not knocking it for its story persay, but the way it handled the presentation, ie. one-note characters, boring characters, typical storyline tropes like an innocent people being thrown into war, etc.

6. No one important died. Let's just take this typical Hollywood trait and display it in all of its prominence, because it certainly applies. It's boring. It's predictable. It's Hollywood. And let's just pretend that one of them did die. Who cares? I know I didn't care about any of the characters in this movie. They all could have died and I wouldn't have given a shit. They were all incredibly boring and one dimensional.

It was a safe movie designed with safe measures to make sure audiences had no real emotional connections. Instead, it relied on a predictable story and heavy emphasis on "action" and "beautiful world" to try to WOW the audience in a shallow and demeaning way. It's basically what movies shouldn't be; movies are art. This? This is not art.

You forgot handsom man in wheel-chair.

Comparatively in District 9 Wikus starts off as a sniveling sheep-like little cretin, doing the busy work for a nonferrous corporation. He's inexplicably thrusted into the plot by his own incompetence, begrudgingly helping his companions for how own requirements. As the character starts to understand the larger picture of what the company is aiming for and see's the "prawns" as people as opposed to a giant mass of shit to be moved, his character shifts organically. At the key point when he's being goaded to run away, he becomes teh hero. And it's completely earned. Self-sacrifice for something bigger than his own bubble. The character is generic looking office worker, not intelligent egotistical, naive and by and large cowardly i.e. your typical human...

Avatar has a man in a wheelchair. People feel sorry for disabled people. He's also pretty, people like pretty people.

Old scar guy bad. Body mutilation bad, that's not pretty and happy. He bad.

derpy derpy derp

It'd take a lot to beat the king.

People play the Ultimate HD version of RE4. It has better controls.

@ghosts4ever: When stacking Evil Within 2 against RE4 and simply judging them by today's standards, then yes, Evil Within 2 is a better game. But when comparing the two relative to the time of their releases, RE4 is far and away the better title. Evil Within 2 is good, but the impact Resident Evil 4 had on not just the horror genre, but action games in general, made RE4 one of the most influential games of all time; the likes of which are still being felt in gaming today.

TLDR (now in metaphor form!): RE4 is a 2005 Ferrari. Evil Within 2 is a 2017 Kia Optima. The 2017 Optima has better overall modern features in comparison. But a Ferrari from any year is still a fucking Ferrari.

Horror games are great. They doing what they supposed to do, give you the creeps or make you uneasy or whatever way better than other genres. If you like them is another story.

I prefer to see a low budget horror/splaughter movie ala Saw or something similar that is considered bad than a multimillion budget boredom like Marvel movies or Transformers or generic craps.

But my friend. How can you liek Fararee if farrarree worst car ever?

That's the level of reply you can expect from B-Cell, if you even get one. I honestly don't see why people bother addressing him like a normal person so often.

@zombieproof: But if I respond, I get to talk about RE4 with normal people like you. And I really like talking about RE4. (also, I think I really nailed the Ferrari metaphor)

@koko-goal: I would go bananas for an actual remake instead of the annual re-release. The GameCube version is still the best.

I do think RE4 is a better game overall, but there are some things that TEW2 has going for it that I do like better than RE4. Weirdly enough I think nowadays I prefer TEW to RE and even RE4 if we were to play them today. I played RE7 and find it to be not as fun as TEW2 if that means anything, but then again that is not really like previous RE games.

The weird crap is still present just like from the first TEW (albeit a little more toned down), and I've always been a bigger fan of it than the RE games. I love that you can actually go through a huge amount of the game using stealth (kind of have to in Nightmare and above tbh) which is not possible in RE games for the most part. The weapons are satisfying to use compared to RE4 imo, and the headshots are just tops in TEW2, although the reloads aren't nearly as awesome. :P Overall I like the effects of combat more even if its worse control wise than RE4. With upgrades though I do think that Seb combat wise is pretty capable even compared to RE4 but it takes time to get to that point.

The bad guys are better in TEW imo. Aside from Theodore who was one note and predictable, Stefano was a fun dude, even if he had no real character detail. Didn't need it though since his "masterpieces" sold his crazy imo. Ruvik is awesome as well imo. I highly prefer them over the bad guys from RE.

Pacing sucks for some people and there are parts that stretch. It is as a whole an uneven series, even if I didn't really mind it fully tbh since for some reason I liked when things changed up (I can agree that the final chapters were a little much though from TEW). I feel that TEW 2 doesn't do this as well as the first TEW, but does beat it in being even. RE is way more predictable and has great pacing overall.

Overall if TEW was continued it has the makings to be better than RE imo. The premise is just way more wicked and could be awesome if it has a modernized feel and better tech.

No sorry. Re4 was a DATSUN dressed Ferrari.

Even for 2005 standards, aside graphics and some boss design, game was a wreck. If you want to go into details will take too long so ill keep it short. Was Resident evil a great 3rd person action shooter even for 2005 standards? Hell NO !! It was epicly bad with atrocious controls. Was RE4 a true horror game made you horrified every now and then ? NO, it was a joke, almost arcadish .. never felt any horror like feeling at any given moment. Only at the very start that i couldnt tell what is happening but thats it.

So how RE4 was a ferrari back then when game itself was under 3rd person action/shooter horror game and failed in both shooting and horror elements that hard ? Because of hype ? Because media said so ? Because critics praised it or won awards ? What did you like about RE4 aside what i told you ?

RE4 was all about graphics and level design with some badass bosses every now and then. Everything else could be considered BROKEN or atrocious or plain decent at best. Toi me RE4 will be the most overated game of all time. I said that back in the days when i first played it, i keep saying this after 12 years.

@AzatiS: Keep hearing complaints about the controls in RE4. What was bad about it? I had no problems with them whatsoever. Found them great, actually.

I disagree. I have both the OG version and the UE version; the latter is way better.

I haven't even played TEW2 but RE4 is the greatest game ever made.

Was wasted on these imperfects.

@AzatiS: Um well, level design for one was a huge plus for me. The presentation, graphics, story to a certain degree (it was okay, but back then, there weren't all that many games with good stories), bosses, enemies (and oh my God, there were so many different enemies; just look at Uncharted and its 5 enemy types compared to RE4 sending you a new set every area), and the list could go on and on.

Telling somebody they only liked the game because the media praised it is about as condescending as you can get. I didn't play a video game for two years and considered giving up the medium altogether. Resident Evil 4 is the reason I'm still playing games, today. Your arguments are what's atrocious here, sir. So, you didn't like the controls. Okay. That's fine. But most people who played the game didn't have problems with them. To me, learning how to navigate with Leon's limited movement abilities is what made the end of the learning curve satisfying.

If you didn't like RE4, that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. It wasn't a perfect game, and if its specific limitations were a deal breaker to you, personally, then that's fine. But denying its impact on gaming is plain ignorance.

But based on your grammatical limitations, I'm assuming I'm speaking to a 12 year old, so this entire post was obviously a waste. And if I *am* speaking to a 12 year old, you were not part of the gaming scene in 2005. And in 2005, RE4 fucking rocked.

Fair enough brah and yeah, you nailed the analogy dead-bang lol

everything evil within 2 did better than resi 4 except the hub system which is kinda boring but when it go to linear structure its good. plus its also miles ahead of resi 5 and 6.