Is DICE worst AAA developer today?

No, those fvckups had nothing to do with BATTLEFIELD. Zero, none, nothing. They were in Battlefront 2 and actually removed. So by all means hate them, cry and moan, but it doesn't equate to a game having terrible shooting, graphics, level design. And after them being gone from Battlefront 2 most people agree the actual moment to moment game play is great.

It seems you cant separate what financial practices you hate, and I don't like them either, from the base game play.

I played it a few months ago right after the trilogy. I didn't finish as I started other games, but I didn't think it is as bad as people are saying. I understand that the story wasn't as good, but what was it that made people hate it?

I challenge that based on what I have seen.

It appears to me to be basically COD with a Star Wars skin.

its not exactly as if the FPS genre is missing any solid game mechanics. what it is missing is a shred of creativity

still doesn't refute what I said. Lootboxes don't negate a devs ability to make good game play that entertains. It makes them shady money hungry businesses but not bad at the base job of making a playable game.

its the 'good game' part that I do not agree with you on.

lootboxes or not, doing nothing more than putting a Star Wars skin on a COD package is not what I would call a 'good game'

I hear ya. There is no argument there, so I don't bother. Its all subjective. Whats good to you may be shyte to me and vice versa. My point to the TC and the other replier stands. Hate the business practices but that doesn't negate what they are good at mechanically.

It doesn't play like COD imo. Battlefield is what it is a reskin of for obvious reasons. I'll play it for the rest of the year before I play shyte like Persona. That is coma inducing bitch shit.

I'm one of the rare people that liked Mirrors Edge Catalyst as for the BF series I use to be a big fan of them Battlefield 2 is probably my favorite MP game of all time. But the Battlefield games we get today are garbage they may look amazing graphically and have awesome destruction but the gameplay is dumbed down from what the series use to be it just feels like I'm playing COD with vehicles. The BF games don't require any skill or teamwork anymore it's just a twitch shooter.The only thing Dice are good for these days are hopefully making another Mirror's Edge game in the future. So is Dice the worst AAA dev? nope but they are a huge step down from what they use to be and they ruined the BF games.

Valve or Nintendo are the worst. They release garbage games that get overrated by fanboys.

I have no idea why “left 4 dead” was praised so highly for being a 20 minute game. It bored me to tears.

IMAO their last good game is BF2142. The launch was horrible indeed but eventually became my favorite Battlefield franchise of all time. DICE were full of people who had creative talents in their mind until then.

And after I bought BF3, I lost interest on them. I hate how they just ignore old fans and keep degenerating their games for money.

I've been wanting BF2143 for years now. 2142 was fucking amazeballs. The DICE that made that game is probably not today's DICE though, I'm afraid. Now I'm instead hoping that someone else than DICE will make a Battlefield-like game and steal DICE's thunder by giving PC gamers, who are tired of getting fucking crap ever since DICE started to go consoles, what they want.

It's exactly this. DICE has still demonstrated top level proficiency in game mechanics and design. That being the core design, levels, shooting mechanics, weapon balancing, mission structure, etc... The monetization is something that impacts all this, but it's still a separate and additional component layered over that foundation. It's the integration of this that affects the overall experience, which would not have been what it is without it's inclusion had DICE been free from this interference to their original design.

The blame for SW Battlefront's failure lies squarely with EA for tainting the experience with their greed, not in DICE's capabilities and talent in game design.

I take issue with this assessment.

namely because from what I have seen SW Battlefront is nothing more than a copy of COD with a different skin.

basically a modded skin of COD. I dont think that is something to praise a developer for.

that is how I see it

I know its not technically a skin of COD but I am speaking overall they just basically copied code maybe even literally within their own shop

I love BF1 it still outlasted the last 2 call of duty games