Is 3rd party support becoming a problem for the Xbox One?

We have seen that some hyped 3rd party titles like Nier, Nioh, Persona, Yakuza, etc are skipping the Xbox One. Some people say that is expected from these titles since they are japanese titles and the Xbox One practically doesn't sell in Japan but they ignore that those titles also sell fairly well on the west. Now seeing the list of titles that will release in August we can see a pattern that not only a fairly big number of popular japanese titles are missing the Xbox One but also many smaller games:

I didn't check if any of this games already released on the X1 or is planning to be released in the future so correct me if I'm wrong.

Games released in August that are on PS4 and not on Xbox One:

-Blackhole

-Hellblade

-Lawbreakers

-Matterfall

-Nidhogg 2

-Sudden Strike 4

-ChromaGun

-Uncharted: LL

-White Day

-The Lost Child

-One Piece

-Everybody's Golf

-Warrior All Stars

-Windjammers

-Yakuza Kiwami

Those are 15 games on August alone releasing on PS4 and not on X1, around 13 without the Sony published games.

Games released in August that are on Xbox One and not on PS4:

-Tacoma

-Hello Neighbor

While the games that are going to release on the Xbox One and skip the PS4 are only 2.

I remember that last month it was a similar difference.

Now look at Metacritic the top games for each console.

The Xbox One has 249 games at 75 or above: http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/xboxone/filtered?sort=desc

Meanwhile the PS4 has 397 games at 75 or above: http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/ps4/filtered?sort=desc

That's a fairly big difference.

Some people were saying recently that the good thing about the Xbox environemnt is that it makes porting games between Windows and the Xbox fairly simple. If that's so how come the difference between games skipping the Xbox is so much bigger?

This also proves that not selling so well as the competition matters. Many people also say that the Xbox One sells enough and that it doesn't need to sell as much as the PS4 to be succesful. In a way that's true but in another way it is not without consequences as we see here.

Smh Playerunknown Battleground and Cuphead say Hi.

Haven't you heard Pachter has said PUBG will sell better than all those weeaboo games on PS4.

Nah it's okay, the xOne has a lot of exclusives to counter it ... wait a moment

... To be fair, the same list could be made with PC vs any console or with xOne vs the Switch

You mentioned 2 games. I mentioned like 20 in total. My main point is still valid.

No, just no... Suffice to say...

lololol :P

Cuphead releases in Sept and PUBG will be on PS4 as well. No idea what his point was

Yeah I saw that the PUBG dev said a PS4 version is possible too. It would make sense definitely.

@pinkanimal: lol you sure did quite the impressive list of garbage to list there. Even included some DLC to pad that "game" list which ironically will be the most successful thing on that list.

those 2 games I mentioned will sell as much if not more than your list of 20.

Don't know why you fanboys choose to make lists of absolutely irrelevant garbage just to say "hey look at this speculation I've got"

@pinkanimal: your right PUGB will eventually be on PS4. But it will be on Xbox first. It will be riding off its hype coming from PC and the already 5 millions PC gamers playing it, the hype of twitch, Mixer and streams making it a top 5 game. Look how long Ark was in early access, everyone knew it was eventually coming to PS4 as well, but the time it made it Ark hype fell off and people moved on.

The games listed are hardly indicative of anything. I'm guessing in most cases there the publisher behind each title has limited resources to spend on licensing fees/marketing and expending limited resources across multiple platforms may not be as beneficial as focusing on a single home console platform given the relatively minor nature of most of those titles, if that is the case it makes sense to select whichever platform has the larger install base. Interestingly where resources are not so limited you see the opposite I.E Ace Combat going multiplat again.

Alot of these are indies, some of these are hard to find actual gameplay for like The Lost Child and White Day.

Tacoma might be ok unless it's the same shit Fullbright pulled with Gone Home, $20 for like 2 hours of gameplay.

1. How do you know all those games will be garbage? Do you have a time machine?

2. Are you really saying that those 2 games you mentioned will outsell something like Uncharted? Do you have a time machine again? considering Uncharted is one of the best selling games this gen.

3. I don't know why fanboys such as you choose to make such ridiculous statements without any proof whatsoever. Oh I know, because lemmings have been doing that this entire gen and non surprisingly all their statements have been proven false eventually. So I'm pretty sure you don't have a time machine and you're just talking crap.

Ok but you claim the list is not indicative of anything and then you go on to state what it is indicative of which is basically what I'm saying too :/

@pinkanimal: uncharted is DLC why are you so hung up about counting some DLC that's dropping for an already exclusive game as some kind of feat??? It's not gonna add a shit ton of sales to the game, people are gonna purchase DLC for a game they already own. Also uncharted may be on of the best selling "exclusives" no where near one of the best selling games that title belongs to multiplats like Destiny, COD, Overwatch, gTA5

I'm sure I could go look in the coming soon section of the Xbox Store and find some other obscure shit that's coming out that no ones heard of or even seen. Those types of games release monthly.

There is literally 2 games on your list that have any relevancy and one of them is DLC, the other is a game that got meh reactions from the beta(lawbreakers). Which is disappointing because that game won't come to Xbox One if it doesn't make some money.

@xxyetixx: "some DLC that's dropping for an already exclusive game"

It's standalone DLC, you don't need UC4 to play it. Still I'm pretty sure it's going to sell better than Cuphead at least.

"I'm sure I could go look in the coming soon section of the Xbox Store and find some other obscure shit that's coming out that no ones heard of or even seen"

Yeah I'm sure too but, again, on Metacritic the PS4 has around 100 games more than the Xbox One rated 75 or higher so among those lists there are good games too and the PS4 still has the advantage of quality and quantity.

"There is literally 2 games on your list that have any relevancy"

How are you measuring relevancy? So in the Xbox One case, there are 0 relevant games then? Still the PS4 wins.

googled first game and Xbox one

said it was being released on Xbox One in first 5 posts.

couldnt be bothered doing rest.

I've never heard of any of those games, must be my age.

Look I don't know how you game, what you play, and what your into. I can almost guarantee you haven't played those "100 more games rated 75 or higher". You use this shit for list wars and that's all.

Its as hypocritical as me hyping up some "movie game" or "weeaboo" game coming to Xbox as some advantage, just to say there is an advantage. I don't give a f*ck about those types of games, they mean nothing to me, if Xbox had all the games PS4 has right now, the only games I would of played or tried out would be Killzone, and Crash Bandacoot. There is a reason I don't own a PS4, there is nothing I want to play on it that I can't already play on Xbox. There also isn't really anything I play on my Xbox that I can't play on PS4. I'm not hardcore into Halo, actually don't really like it, play MCC, and Halo 5, don't see the draw to it. I'm not hardcore into Gears, the only Gears game I've ever played and completed the single player campaign is the 1st one. Gears looks nice and that game play is ok, not fond of the MP and had Gears4, but moved on pretty quickly. My time sink games and where I spend most if not all my gaming time are fighters, COD, and lately Friday the 13th, and that's pretty much it. I pick up some GWG titles here and there usually never get around to playing them. Games pass I have a few games from that, played a couple BC titles. But mostly waiting for COD:WW2 and PUBG(hopefully I can get into that game).

So whenever fanboys post these lists my eyes just roll,cause I know you guys aren't playing all this shit and/or like every genre of game ever.

@xxyetixx: "I can almost guarantee you haven't played those "100 more games rated 75 or higher""

No, but that means the PS4 has more variety along with quality which is a good thing.

"Its as hypocritical as me hyping up some "movie game" or "weeaboo" game coming to Xbox as some advantage"

That's not hypocritical, that is PRECISELY what an advantage looks like. It may be not an advantage to your personally but it an advantage for the console since it attracts people who consider that particular game an advantage.

As for the rest of your rant, then I don't know why you lemmings whine so much at other people criticizing the console you chose. First, if you really only care about your subjective opinion then why do you insist on whining so much on people who criticize the Xbox One? Then just ignore those criticisms and go play whatever and be content with it. Second, if you're so sensitive about other people attacking your subjectively preferred piece of plastic then what the hell are you doing on a place called system wars where people are supposed to argue about the differences between the systems? I mean it seems overly stupid to be whining about comparisons between systems on a forum made exactly for that purpose.

Neir automatica will be announced for xbo at gamescom

Really? You have a link? If so that's great because the game is great and should become more popular.

@pinkanimal: really just pointing out how hypocritical you are and the nonsense that takes place here. I mean really you're and alt account here don't even know why I entertain speaking to you. You literally show up before E3 just to be able to DC against the X1X ?.

But you are right SW has decayed and became what it is because of the likes of you. It's just irrelevant list wars and resolution these days. PS4 really has some good stuff coming via 3rd party yet you choose to add nonsense just to pad it more.

-Blackhole

-Hellblade-Windows

-Lawbreakers-Windows

-Matterfall

-Nidhogg 2-Windows

-Sudden Strike 4

-ChromaGun

-Uncharted: LL

-White Day-Windows

-The Lost Child

-One Piece-Says PC which Windows dominates

-Everybody's Golf

-Warrior All Stars-Windows

-Windjammers

-Yakuza Kiwami

I don't see this as a massive problem being MSFTs bread winner is Windows and its listed in Augusts releases aplenty. Cant force Japanese to support an American corporation's console. Don't see a problem here. Hellblade I'm buying on W10 PC not much else i'm interested in.

Oh so you get mad because I'm telling the truth, well that's your problem pal. If you are too sensitive to criticism of your plastic sweetheart then I suggest you don't come to SW, specially on a generation of consoles where Microsoft has been doing bad because you might get sick from butthurt. I'm not sure what SW you're nostalgically whining about but the war between console gaming has been pretty much the same since the Nintendo vs Sega games. Maybe you're just too hurt that Microsoft is doing badly this gen so you don't have much ammunition to win arguments other than "WELL, BUT IT'S MY PREFERENCE!! SO THERE!" lol

Xbox has a problem with both 1st and 3rd party support right now. Phil Spencer has failed to deliver the games.

@cainetao11: It's a problem for the Xbox One, clearly not for PC or Windows since it gets mostly everything.

@pinkanimal: lol ok bud ??, the salt and tears and rage just flow through my finger tips. IDGAF about the nonsense that takes place here, the only reaction I've ever had from SW, is disbelief at the mindnumbingly dense people here.

You've kinda been on that list since you've showed up, but valiant effort I must say.

@xxyetixx: "IDGAF about the nonsense that takes place here, the only reaction I've ever had from SW, is disbelief at the mindnumbingly dense people here."

You don't give a f... about a place you visit frequently and where participate in discussions? hmm weirdest I don't give a f... I've ever seen lol. Believe me, you're where you belong :)

You missed some games. Check gamefaqs.

But back to the point. No , 3rd support isn't becoming a problem. 3rd party IS AND HAS BEEN a problem for the Xbone. Phil Spencer and his crew have dropped the ball.

@pinkanimal: um yeah correct, just like my account shows it was created in 2004 and I have 2602 post lol. I generally visit when I'm at work to kill time. Spend more time at Neogaf, but SW is/was more of a train wreck to visit. Not as much fun as it use to be but keep coming outta habit and curiosity.

Certainly not for me, my backlog keeps increasing every month, I cannot keep up with all the new releases.

Also some games on that list like One Piece are already on XOne(I don't know if that's a sequel or a re-release) and Xbox regularly gets those small PS4 games later on, I just recently got Edith Finch for example.

The reverse is also true, Xbox regularly gets games before PS4, such as the recently released "Everspace", the upcoming Player Battlegrounds, and the highly anticipated PC game "Path of Exile".

As an Xbox One owner I have no issues finding great games to play and I love the focus they have on those high profile online games , I love playing online pve or pvp and Xbox delivers in spades on that front both in 1st party and 3rd party support.

It's the effect of being a bigger market that is all. Not everyone can release multiplatform games at the same time. Bigger market gets the priority first.

But if they're turning profit, which they are, where is the problem? Goodyear tires outsell Firestone, yet Firestone keeps turning a profit and stays in business. Where is this problem you speak of?

You don't like Xbox/MSFT or what have you, we get it. Its ok, man.......let it out.

Your analogy is flawed. If Firestone keeps making a profit even when one of their model tires is doing badly yeah sure they're making a profit but that tire that is selling badly nobody could guarantee it will continue to get supported. Are you playing dumb that you can't process such a simple concept of how things work on a business? Using your same analogy, imagine Sony was doing great selling TVs but pretty bad at selling PS4s and then, you come and say, don't worry Sony is making a profit so the PS4 is fine. Silly stuff dude.

Are you playing dumb and ignoring the fact they have stated the next Xbox is in the works?

I wasn't suggesting merely MSFT is making a profit. There was a thread on the first page detailing how Xbox is making money. Let me guess, you're pretending to be blind?

No

Xbox includes Xbox Live which includes not only the Xbox One but also PC, tablets, phones and a bunch of other stuff. Microsoft hasn't really detailed how the Xbox One is doing alone. Also I'm not saying it will get discontinued, that was just an example. But that the Xbox division is making a profit for Microsoft says little about the actual console unless we have console numbers. The latest NPD actually said that the service profits are up but the hardware profits are down.

I actually wonder what the future line for Xbox looks like. I am interested in one and have a ps4 to fall back on for games Xbox won't get. And stop calling Japanese games weaboo games you're not even using the word right. To be a weaboo you have to not be japanese and be obsessed with Japanese culture not just anime that's only one aspect of Japanese culture. You have to be o seed with japan but at the same time come off with an air of uninformedness having never been to Japan. Also japanese developers are from Japan therefore their games are not weaboo games. There's no such thing as a weaboo game actually. I think Xbox gamers would buy japanese games, it's just the less popular ones might not do so hot due to their simplicity.

What I got from this, is that Sudden Strike 4 is on PS4! What kind of masochist do you need to be to try playing a complex RTS like Sudden Stirke with a dual shock controller?

On topic, no

I'd rather have Tacoma and Hello Neighbor over all those games you listed not coming to X1 in August TC.

Xbox is getting Sonic Mania and Mega Man collection 2.... so the important 3rd party games of August are secure.

Capcom be hating on switch tho.

All of which have no fee to be a Live member. So obviously the profit of Live is derived from the only avenue that charges a fee, consoles. And its in profit.

What most of you forget is MSFT own Havok and Simplygon and most game devs use these softwares including Sony and Nintendo so they are profiting from that as well.

Xbox has turned into one fckin joke.

One big disgrace, it's like they gave up...

@pinkanimal: This is why I own both a PS4 and XB1. lol!! What every 3rd party isn't on PS4 will be on XB1 and visa-versa. Same thing goes for 1st party games. I'm pretty much covered.

I have about 180+ games on my xbox one and 75% are third party so i think 3rd party support is fine. Plus with these small 3rd parties, they usually strike a deal with one platform on console before taking on more. Eventually the games release on xbox one, like this Killing Floor 2.

The other reason i dont mind is the 3rd party games usually feature co-op/multiplayer which Sony lacks in(1st party), which would get lost easily on Xbox one since MS is heavily invested with multiplayer/co-op. So these 3rd parties are filling a void that works in their favor.

@cainetao11: "So obviously the profit of Live is derived from the only avenue that charges a fee, consoles."

So you think that the games people buy on Xbox Live on PC, and mobile are not profit and that everything there is free? Do you even know how the real world works dude?

Third'd party support isn't the problem as much as third party exclusive support. As someone who primarily games on the XB1 the library had never left me wanting.

I don't see the problem for those that game on the Xbox more than it is a problem for those that don't and who have yet to justify getting one.

I'm not even sure the X1X will change their fortunes this gen, but as an XB1 gamer primarily, it's sure a welcome change for me. At very least, the focus on hardware IMO signals they're on the right track to correcting their course since their stupid Kinect focus that this gen started on. They just need to keep that focus when they plan their true next gen system that'll go toe-to-toe with th e PS5.

Interesting read, thanks.

So you're telling the entire forum that we can quote this post forever more when SWarriors post "LOL W10 store"? So those sales are a worth mentioning?

Windows phone is still going NOT because of store sales but the fact MSFT earns 2 billion/year on cell phone patents from ANYONE making a cell phone.

How is dlc for a first party game considered as something that is relevant to a topic about third party games being available for another system?

Its the Geisha way, that's why