Industry analyst: the best games sell the most

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#1 Posted by SaltyMeatballs (25164 posts) -

something like that

http://tinyurl.com/VVUTDAFUQ

discuss

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#2 Posted by MW2ismygame (2188 posts) -

whats there to discuss ? just by the title we know the "analyst" is an idiot.

The smart people here know that quantity=/=quality

Edit: its pachter so yeah, and idiot

/thread

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#3 Posted by IAmNot_fun (3336 posts) -
Or games that sell the most are often generously reviewed by the critiques.
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#4 Posted by SaltyMeatballs (25164 posts) -
I didn't think he could get any worse, but he keeps on surprising me.
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#5 Posted by MW2ismygame (2188 posts) -

Oh and i love his brilliant insight on the WiiU

"The more its advertised the more is sold"

Edit: wrong pic

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#6 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

No. That is stupid logic. Halo sells more than Killzone but Killzone is the far superior game.

The best games are your personal favorite. Too many things effect sales like marketing and whatnot, and reviews are more influenced by hype and popularity than actaul gameplay sometimes.

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#7 Posted by Riadon2 (1598 posts) -

No. That is stupid logic. Halo sells more than Killzone but Killzone is the far superior game.

The best games are your personal favorite. Too many things effect sales like marketing and whatnot, and reviews are more influenced by hype and popularity than actaul gameplay sometimes.

ShadowMoses900

You'd know all about stupid logic.

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#8 Posted by deactivated-5a263a314f72b (196 posts) -

What's considered the "best" to one gamer, might be seen as the "worst" to another.

Obviously, not everyone will buy the best-selling video games on the market. Different people have different tastes.

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#9 Posted by BrunoBRS (74156 posts) -
oh, it's him.
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#10 Posted by Rattlesnake_8 (18452 posts) -

whats there to discuss ? just by the title we know the "analyst" is an idiot.

The smart people here know that quantity=/=quality

Edit: its pachter so yeah, and idiot

/thread

MW2ismygame
First reply said it all.
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#11 Posted by Wanderer5 (25727 posts) -

Jeez who is thi- oh it Pachter.

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#12 Posted by clyde46 (49050 posts) -
In other news, water is wet. Film at 11.
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#13 Posted by getyeryayasout (11474 posts) -
Well, it's on the internet, must be true.
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#14 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (12687 posts) -

No. That is stupid logic. Halo sells more than Killzone but Killzone is the far superior game.

The best games are your personal favorite. Too many things effect sales like marketing and whatnot, and reviews are more influenced by hype and popularity than actaul gameplay sometimes.

ShadowMoses900
You mean like Call of Duty?
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#15 Posted by nintendoboy16 (33738 posts) -
So... are we sure to buy his "troll" excuse from sometime ago?
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#16 Posted by DarkLink77 (32731 posts) -

Explain Call of Duty, Patcher.

/argument.

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#17 Posted by savagetwinkie (7981 posts) -
I didn't think he could get any worse, but he keeps on surprising me.SaltyMeatballs
he said something quite sensible... If the game really is the best game, it should really sell the most units, and if it doesn't than the industry is really screwed up because we are not supporting the best content...
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#18 Posted by Goyoshi12 (9687 posts) -

The best games sell the most!?

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#19 Posted by Vari3ty (11111 posts) -

Best is subjective.

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#20 Posted by jg4xchamp (61462 posts) -
Michael King of Trolls Pachter. Never disagree with such a legend.
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#21 Posted by Slashless (9528 posts) -

whats there to discuss ? just by the title we know the "analyst" is an idiot.

The smart people here know that quantity=/=quality

Edit: its pachter so yeah, and idiot

/thread

MW2ismygame
The quality of your sig is amazing.
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#22 Posted by MakeMeaSammitch (4889 posts) -

No, alot of the best sellers are mediocres imo.

CoD

Gears

Uncharted.

just ok games

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#23 Posted by demon_slayer7 (90 posts) -

Great Exclusives don't have a chance of outselling Great multiplats so this is kind of dumb reasoning from this guy. I also think most exclusives are better than multiplats too. Of coarse I know thre are graet multiplats like GTA and skyrim but does uncharted, halo and mario galaxy really have a chance of outselling those probably not

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#24 Posted by Riadon2 (1598 posts) -

No, alot of the best sellers are mediocres imo.

CoD

Gears

Uncharted.

just ok games

MakeMeaSammitch

Pretty ironic considering your avatar.

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#25 Posted by biggest_loser (24263 posts) -
If that were the case Looking Glass Studios would still be in business lol :(
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#26 Posted by DarkLink77 (32731 posts) -
lol :( biggest_loser
I don't think my brain knows how to process those two things so close together.
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#27 Posted by PernicioEnigma (5881 posts) -
Sure, just like the best music sells the most...
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#28 Posted by Lucianu (10283 posts) -

A blind, retarded cockroach could do a better job than him. I don't care about how the hell he got his job or how knowledgeble he is, that is one stupid thing to say.

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#29 Posted by biggest_loser (24263 posts) -

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"] lol :( DarkLink77
I don't think my brain knows how to process those two things so close together.

Its just a funny truth or tragedy! Merry Xmas to everyone on System Wars by the way!

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#30 Posted by T_0_D (1128 posts) -

He should have said, the games that sell the most are the most successful. This is kind of redundant though as games are like art in that the quality is in the eye of the beholder.

Consoles on the other hand aren't always the one that sells the most is the most successful as companies will sell consoles at a loss initially to keep consumer costs down and populate the market. This is a very perilous business strategy that really cost Sony last generation with the PS3. MS and Nintendo both had more successful consoes business wise.

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#31 Posted by DraugenCP (8485 posts) -

Oh, you mean Pachter.

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#32 Posted by ArisShadows (22784 posts) -

No. That is stupid logic. Halo sells more than Killzone but Killzone is the far superior game.

The best games are your personal favorite. Too many things effect sales like marketing and whatnot, and reviews are more influenced by hype and popularity than actaul gameplay sometimes.

ShadowMoses900

Don't forget to mention those sh*tty *** COD games that sell plenty..

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#33 Posted by Michael0134567 (28651 posts) -

There's the truth.

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#34 Posted by delta3074 (19951 posts) -
no s***,lol
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#35 Posted by delta3074 (19951 posts) -
Halo sells more than Killzone but Killzone is the far superior game.ShadowMoses900
thats a subjective opinion, Halo offers more content than killzone, better online, Graphically they are on PAr with each other, the only real decider is Art style and Gameplay and those are both subjective depending on peoples personal preference.
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#36 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (12687 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No. That is stupid logic. Halo sells more than Killzone but Killzone is the far superior game.

The best games are your personal favorite. Too many things effect sales like marketing and whatnot, and reviews are more influenced by hype and popularity than actaul gameplay sometimes.

ArisShadows

Don't forget to mention those sh*tty *** COD games that sell plenty..

Beat ya to it. :P

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#37 Posted by Maddie_Larkin (7431 posts) -

Gee, here I thought that the heaviest advertised games sold the most (which sadly speaks volumes for us the consumers).

I have nothing against him, but man sometimes he just makes the dumbest things known to man -.-

It is with games like it is with books and movies "The best" can only really be determined in hindsight, after a good deal of years. And like books and movies The best were rarely those who sold the most, or got the most exposure.

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#38 Posted by Icarian (1751 posts) -

Shane Satterfield, Editor in Chief of Gametrailers, said something similar not so long ago, so it seems to be the official stand of Gametrailers.

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#39 Posted by DragonfireXZ95 (23193 posts) -

No. That is stupid logic. Halo sells more than Killzone but Killzone is the far superior game.

The best games are your personal favorite. Too many things effect sales like marketing and whatnot, and reviews are more influenced by hype and popularity than actaul gameplay sometimes.

ShadowMoses900
I don't even like Halo all that much and it's way better than Killzone. You have worse logic than he does.
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#40 Posted by hiphops_savior (8438 posts) -
Under his logic, Just Dance and Nintendoland is the best game out there. Granted, neither of them are bad games, but when games like Wii Fit and New Super Mario Bros Wii outsells Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, you have to give your head a shake on such logic.
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#41 Posted by jhcho2 (5013 posts) -

He isn't right about that. The best games don't sell the most. Like everything else, the most 'popular' product isn't always the best. Does McDonald's have the best burger? Is Call of Duty the best game? Is Transformers the best movie ever? Is Windows the best OS around? The answer to all that is NO. It has more to do with marketing.

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#43 Posted by jhcho2 (5013 posts) -

You can't possibly all be this retarded.

This thread has taken what he said completely out of context. He didn't say that the games that sell the most are the best, he's saying that the best games SHOULD sell the most, and if they don't, that's a problem for the industry. And that's completely true. He then goes on to say that he's hopeful that TWD winning GOTY will get more people to buy the game and open themselves up to different experiences, so that sales will actually reflect the quality of the content.

Christ.

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If that's what he said, then it's equally pointless. There's a reason why marketing strategies exists, and there's a reason why it's so important to splash money into marketing. Always has been, always will be. The reason? An average consumer isn't always informed about his/her purchases, and as such, a consumer relies heavily on hearsay and commercials. It's not just the gaming industry. It goes for all commercial industries.

The best example is to try to ask an average gamer what the best PC graphics card is. How many people here can be bothered to go through benchmarks and rig tests to find out that answer? As such, the card which will sell the most is the one that is advertised the most with the most reasonable price point. And when you think about it, why is PC gaming generally more unpopular than console gaming? Yup, making informed purchasing decisions for hardware is very very daunting. So now, I just can say things like "the best PC hardware SHOULD sell the most." But if I said that, it's utterly pointless, and just shows how much I don't know about the way the world works right?

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#44 Posted by tryagainlater (7446 posts) -

Pachter...

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#45 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

these gaming "analysts" are a joke.