In Defence Of SHORT GAMES

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#1 L_G_X
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Now i see all thistalk about cod4 being only a couple of hours long and same with heavenly sword and uncharted. well i ask you this ; if a game has you wanting MORE, hasnt it fulfilled its purpose as a good videogame?

Would you rather spend 10 minutes with Jessica Alba or 10 years with Jade Goody?

THE END

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#2 i-lick-monkeys
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long games get boring...
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#3 Out_Kast3000
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It's not just about length. It's what's in that length.

Also,Why do you guys think God of War is so critically acclaimed? It was a great game, even though it was somewhat short, but it had tons of extras and unclockables to keep you playing it.

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#4 Zeliard9
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Now i see all thistalk about cod4 being only a couple of hours long and same with heavenly sword and uncharted. well i ask you this ; if a game has you wanting MORE, hasnt it fulfilled its purpose as a good videogame?

L_G_X

A good game should have you wanting more AND not feeling like you've just been ripped off.

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#5 JiveT
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$60 short games with no multiplayer are a rip off.

/thread

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#6 meetroid8
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Depends on the game but on a game like COD4 it doesn't matter because of online and Uncharted for replayability. I expect a game like Zelda or Mario to be more than 10hrs long.
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#7 L_G_X
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$60 short games with no multiplayer are a rip off.

/thread

Why do people keep saying /thread it doesnt make you look smart or cool?

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#8 Fignewton50
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Of course you want to be left wanting more, but you also want to feel like you got enough gameplay for your money. A game that's over before you know it is aggrivating and you're left demanding more, not wanting it.

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#9 L_G_X
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Oh and the /thread thing only works if no one else replies so sorry sonic picture person you fail.
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#11 Broman6015
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Oh and the /thread thing only works if no one else replies so sorry sonic picture person you fail.L_G_X

lmao at "sonic picture person"

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#12 L_G_X
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Err but it didnt work soooo....?
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#13 soulsofblayck
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It's actually the new wave of ADD multi-player only gamers which are killing SP so blame them.
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#14 Zeliard9
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It's not just about length. It's what's in that length.

Also,Why do you guys think God of War is so critically acclaimed? It was a great game, even though it was somewhat short, but it had tons of extras and unclockables to keep you playing it.

Out_Kast3000

I thought GoW2 was much better than the first, mainly because it was a longer game. GoW2 also had New Game +, which EVERY SINGLE GAME OUT THERE SHOULD HAVE.

That feature alone increases replay value IMMENSELY. And it doesn't just work with RPGs. It could work with almost anything.

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#15 Kid-Icarus-
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Why do people keep saying /thread it doesnt make you look smart or cool?

L_G_X


Agreed. Its like the internet version of "end of" ... Which if you've ever lived in the UK, you will know is one of the most irritating phrases known to man, said only by the types of imbeciles you would find on Big Brother and the like.
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#16 tman93
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I don't care if a game is short honestly. It could be 5 hours long, and as long as its an amazing game, id like it the same as anygame.

If it came to it, id rather have a 4-8 hour game that has a very amazing experiance then a 25-40 hour game that has a somewhat adverage experiance, and gets boring after awhile.

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#17 SuperMario_46
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long games get boring...i-lick-monkeys
I have over48 hours on Twilight Princess (the first time) and i never get bored :)
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#18 Gunraidan
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well i ask you this ; if a game has you wanting MORE, hasnt it fulfilled its purpose as a good videogame?

THE END

L_G_X

Agreed I guess that it would've been okay if Half-Life 2 was only 1 hour long and that Street Fighter III only had a roster of 4 playable characters.

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#19 Candy-Star
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Now i see all thistalk about cod4 being only a couple of hours long and same with heavenly sword and uncharted. well i ask you this ; if a game has you wanting MORE, hasnt it fulfilled its purpose as a good videogame?

Would you rather spend 10 minutes with Jessica Alba or 10 years with Jade Goody?

THE END

L_G_X
A good game would leave me feeling satisfied.
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#20 Anoch20
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In general the best part a game can shine is single player, you can offer more cinamatic elements and it's more movie like, comapred to online. I for one no longer have that much time to be playing games online so, I'm kinda more intereted in games with either long single player or very fun single player with a good story. I think Uncharteds story and overall presentation offers something that most games these days skip just so they can offer you online.
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#21 sexy_chimp
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Wanting more at the end of a video game is a bad thing...That means you'll have to wait 3 years (Or 1 if it's Insomniac) and pay 60 dollars for the sequal.
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#22 Kid-Icarus-
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A good game is a good game. Whether it's short or long. No one argues that a book has to be long to be good, or a film, or an album. You pay the same price to go see a 90 minute comedy at the cinema as you do to see Lord of the Rings ... And a really good 90 minute comedy can be just as enjoyable. So why should it be any different for games?
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#23 Zeliard9
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A good game is a good game. Whether it's short or long. No one argues that a book has to be long to be good, or a film, or an album. You pay the same price to go see a 90 minute comedy at the cinema as you do to see Lord of the Rings ... And a really good 90 minute comedy can be just as enjoyable. So why should it be any different for games?Kid-Icarus-

Because gaming is interactive. Watching movies is not.

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#24 Kid-Icarus-
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[QUOTE="Kid-Icarus-"]A good game is a good game. Whether it's short or long. No one argues that a book has to be long to be good, or a film, or an album. You pay the same price to go see a 90 minute comedy at the cinema as you do to see Lord of the Rings ... And a really good 90 minute comedy can be just as enjoyable. So why should it be any different for games?Zeliard9

Because gaming is interactive. Watching movies is not.



And how exactly does that have any relevance on the conversation? It doesn't negate my argument in any way, It is still exactly the same principle. Whether it is an interactive medium or not is a totally unrelated issue.
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#25 Meu2k7
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long games get boring...i-lick-monkeys

Then why on earth are you a Mass Effect fan? :P

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#26 Hat_Damage
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Short games are fine, they need replay value though. Im not going to spend $60 on a game that I may opnly play for 5 hours and then never pick it up for a couple years
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#27 shoeman12
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if a game is under 10 hours and doesn't have multiplayer its a ripoff. cod4 and halo 3 have online so they're not a ripoff. they have many, many hours of replayibility. games like heavenly sword and uncharted have no multiplayer and are under 10 hours so are a ripoff. /thread.
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#28 L_G_X
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go /thread yourself.
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#29 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

[QUOTE="Kid-Icarus-"]A good game is a good game. Whether it's short or long. No one argues that a book has to be long to be good, or a film, or an album. You pay the same price to go see a 90 minute comedy at the cinema as you do to see Lord of the Rings ... And a really good 90 minute comedy can be just as enjoyable. So why should it be any different for games?Kid-Icarus-

Because gaming is interactive. Watching movies is not.



And how exactly does that have any relevance on the conversation? It doesn't negate my argument in any way, It is still exactly the same principle. Whether it is an interactive medium or not is a totally unrelated issue.

It's completely relevant. If it's interactive then you're a part of it in some way. You dictate the tempo. At a movie theater, you can't do that. You can only sit back and watch, and you can only sit back and watch for so long when you can't interact with it. That's why nearly every movie out there is in the 90-150 minute range.

Gaming is a whole different ballgame. You don't just sit back and watch, you're a direct part of it. Since you're interacting, length becomes critical, because you're no longer a simple observer and directly involved in the medium itself, and the game doesn't move forward unless you want it to. They're entirely incomparable.

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#30 Supernova_86
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long games get boring...i-lick-monkeys

Says the guy with the Mass Effect sig. :|

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#31 Blackbond
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There is no defense for a short game. A good short game could be a great game if longer.
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#32 turgore
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PDZ was short but i could replay it over and over again b/c it wouldn't take a lot of time to complete a mission.
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#33 nintendoman562
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the thing is i dont want to pay 50 or 60 bucks on a gamethat will last me 6 or 7 hours. im fine with short games, as long as im renting it.
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#34 RKfromDownunder
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Now i see all thistalk about cod4 being only a couple of hours long and same with heavenly sword and uncharted. well i ask you this ; if a game has you wanting MORE, hasnt it fulfilled its purpose as a good videogame?

Would you rather spend 10 minutes with Jessica Alba or 10 years with Jade Goody?

THE END

L_G_X

No. It hasnt fulfilled its purpose. If you pay 60 US bucks for a new game ( I think thats the approximate conversion, silly American money) and get 10 hours game play out of it then, well, its not worth the money. If you pay 60 bucks and get 10 hours gameplay + the ability to suck 200+ hrs of online multiplayer out of it then you got a decent deal.

Games like ass-creed which give you 12 hrs gameplay and weak replayability, no multiplayer (obviously), are a weak deal for a consumer.

People whining about COD4 are fools. A couple of hours long? So what. Its got HUNDREDS of hours of multiplayer gameplay in it.

Ohhhhhhhhhh. So you... uh... Dont LIKE online multiplayer? Ummm... Well... Then why the HELL did you buy the game? Thats what the game was designed for? Its the same everywhere. People get dissapointed because they buy games that don't suit their purposes. Well. Pay attention to the demographic that the game was aimed for. Halo 3 was designed to um... 'Finish the Fight'... But it was designed more to satisfy the online cravings of Halo 2 fans... So what if the story was weaksauce... It achieved its aims.

Defense for short games? There is no defense for short games. A game with high replay value is not a 'short' game. A game with great multiplayer value is not short.

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#35 RKfromDownunder
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if a game is under 10 hours and doesn't have multiplayer its a ripoff. cod4 and halo 3 have online so they're not a ripoff. they have many, many hours of replayibility. games like heavenly sword and uncharted have no multiplayer and are under 10 hours so are a ripoff. /thread.shoeman12

Exactly.

There is a trend amongst actioneque games to make a 10-12 hour flick that may or may not replay as well as it should. Weaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak.

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#36 Blommen
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I don't really care about game length. I had as much fun with GOW(10 hours) as I had with Zelda:TP(60 hours) so it depends on how well the game executes its length. F.ex uncharted would be boring if it played 30 hours but mass effect seems to easily be handling 60. it depends...
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#37 GIJames248
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Oh and the /thread thing only works if no one else replies so sorry sonic picture person you fail.L_G_X

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#38 dipper145
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$60 short games with no multiplayer are a rip off.

/thread

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#39 nippon_gamer
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my calculations:

DVD= $12 and have about 3 hrs of good content.

Games= $60 and SHOULD have about 15 hrs of good content.

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#40 mattyomo99
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heavenly sword is one of my fav games this gen.... it is just amazing