I'm totaly convinced the 360 is the graphics king over the PS3.

Yeah yeah yeah a flood of bu bu bu Killzone 2 will come in here. Bu bu bu I bet the farm if on 360 it would look better.

The fact is we have to take multiplats into account now it's been 2 1/2 years and the learn the PS3 excuse is over the fact is 360 just out performs the PS3 in graphics. And we will see games in the next year or 2 on 360 proof this for good. MS has some games yet to be announced first party that will most likely shatter PS3 first party graphics.

But we must just accept multiplats as a true eye opener as to what system has the power and clearly the 360 is the champ.

Further proof. We can no longer over look this it's done deal the 360 GPU >>> RSX PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=7446

You can be totally convinced all you like. PS3 holds the current console graphics king according to many posters. 360 and PS3 will just flip-flop as their titles are so similar in graphics.

The architecture between the two consoles are different, with the PS3's being a pain for devs, PS3 exclusives show what a game built from the ground up for the PS3 can look like. The bad multiplats are due to devs having trouble porting the game to the PS3, its architecture is a pain.

Why on earth would you use multiplats when comparing systems? Most times with multiplats they develop it for a system then port it.Zoso-8

Yeah yeah yeah a flood of bu bu bu Killzone 2 will come in here. Bu bu bu I bet the farm if on 360 it would look better.

The fact is we have to take multiplats into account now it's been 2 1/2 years and the learn the PS3 excuse is over the fact is 360 just out performs the PS3 in graphics. And we will see games in the next year or 2 on 360 proof this for good. MS has some games yet to be announced first party that will most likely shatter PS3 first party graphics.

But we must just accept multiplats as a true eye opener as to what system has the power and clearly the 360 is the champ.

Further proof. We can no longer over look this it's done deal the360 GPU >>> RSX PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=7446

ronjon_09

it dosnt matter, overall the PS3 is still the most powerful

The architecture between the two consoles are different, with the PS3's being a pain for devs, PS3 exclusives show what a game built from the ground up for the PS3 can look like. The bad multiplats are due to devs having trouble porting the game to the PS3, its architecture is a pain.

Nagidar

I beleive I read that they developed this latest multiplat game from the ground up for all systems so this would not mean it is a port. It means they can not get the power from PS3 as they can with the 360:roll:

Port or no prt that myth is over it is far to many at this point to over look. If the PS3 was so vastly more powerful there is no way this many games would look better on 360. I mean were is the power of PS3 it should be able to compinsate but it cant the power is Sony blowing smoke up consumers butts since day one.

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Why on earth would you use multiplats when comparing systems? Most times with multiplats they develop it for a system then port it.navyguy21

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Why on earth would you use multiplats when comparing systems? Most times with multiplats they develop it for a system then port it.navyguy21

That would show that the 360 is more powerful, even though we've seen PS3 exclusives surpass them, and also 360 exclusives.

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Why on earth would you use multiplats when comparing systems? Most times with multiplats they develop it for a system then port it.navyguy21

Thats just it, comparing multiplats is probably the worst way to compare these two consoles, the architecture differences will almost always put the 360 on top, on the other hand, exclusive games REALLY show a systems power and what the system is capable of, both systems have great looking games, the only REAL way to compare them IS buy exclusives, because a game built from the ground up for a single system is what is going to show what that system is capable of.

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Why on earth would you use multiplats when comparing systems? Most times with multiplats they develop it for a system then port it.navyguy21

TC clearly says that KZ2 would look better on 360.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

The architecture between the two consoles are different, with the PS3's being a pain for devs, PS3 exclusives show what a game built from the ground up for the PS3 can look like. The bad multiplats are due to devs having trouble porting the game to the PS3, its architecture is a pain.

ronjon_09

I beleive I read that they developed this latest multiplat game from the ground up for all systems so this would not mean it is a port. It means they can not get the power from PS3 as they can with the 360:roll:

Port or no prt that myth is over it is far to many at this point to over look. If the PS3 was so vastly more powerful there is no way this many games would look better on 360. I mean were is the power of PS3 it should be able to compinsate but it cant the power is Sony blowing smoke up consumers butts since day one.

Ps3 isn't vastly more powerful, it is even with 360.If the 360 was more powerful, then the PS3 wouldn't be able to produce a better looking exclusive game. Simple as. The 360 games should always look superior due to the fact that it is much easier to develop for.

Until, any game on the 360 surpasses kz in graphics, or a new ps3 game that looks better than kzthen i would agree with you... Multiplats dont really matter, considering that developers are better woeking with the 360 than ps3

All I'm saying is we have crossed the time line of multiplat developer time to learn the PS3. It has been crossed we have to start accepting multiplats as proof now. And the PS3 for the most part can not produce the muscle to hang with the 360 in all new current multiplat games.

[QUOTE="ronjon_09"]

Yeah yeah yeah a flood of bu bu bu Killzone 2 will come in here. Bu bu bu I bet the farm if on 360 it would look better.

The fact is we have to take multiplats into account now it's been 2 1/2 years and the learn the PS3 excuse is over the fact is 360 just out performs the PS3 in graphics. And we will see games in the next year or 2 on 360 proof this for good. MS has some games yet to be announced first party that will most likely shatter PS3 first party graphics.

But we must just accept multiplats as a true eye opener as to what system has the power and clearly the 360 is the champ.

Further proof. We can no longer over look this it's done deal the 360 GPU >>> RSX PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=7446

flippin_flames

it dosnt matter, overall the PS3 is still the most powerful

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

The architecture between the two consoles are different, with the PS3's being a pain for devs, PS3 exclusives show what a game built from the ground up for the PS3 can look like. The bad multiplats are due to devs having trouble porting the game to the PS3, its architecture is a pain.

ronjon_09

I beleive I read that they developed this latest multiplat game from the ground up for all systems so this would not mean it is a port. It means they can not get the power from PS3 as they can with the 360:roll:

Port or no prt that myth is over it is far to many at this point to over look. If the PS3 was so vastly more powerful there is no way this many games would look better on 360. I mean were is the power of PS3 it should be able to compinsate but it cant the power is Sony blowing smoke up consumers butts since day one.

I highly doubt that, making the SAME game from scratch for more then one system would cost ALOT of money, unless you have a link, because that makes no sense.

Again, comparing EXCLUSIVES that are built from the ground up on a single system is the best way to compare the systems, because of the hardware differences, with the PS3 being difficult and the 360 being much easier to dev for.

I think that they are pretty even. The graphic champ of the time seems to flip flop back and forth.

All I'm saying is we have crossed the time line of multiplat developer time to learn the PS3. It has been crossed we have to start accepting multiplats as proof now. And the PS3 for the most part can not produce the muscle to hang with the 360 in all new current multiplat games.

ronjon_09

How do you know it's been crossed, when I will presume you have never developed for PS3. If the 360 is the graphics king, then PS3 shouldn't be able to create better looking exclusives. your own logic fails.

All I'm saying is we have crossed the time line of multiplat developer time to learn the PS3. It has been crossed we have to start accepting multiplats as proof now. And the PS3 for the most part can not produce the muscle to hang with the 360 in all new current multiplat games.

ronjon_09

And how would you know that?

Are you a dev?

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Why on earth would you use multiplats when comparing systems? Most times with multiplats they develop it for a system then port it.Nagidar

Thats just it, comparing multiplats is probably the worst way to compare these two consoles, the architecture differences will almost always put the 360 on top, on the other hand, exclusive games REALLY show a systems power and what the system is capable of, both systems have great looking games, the only REAL way to compare them IS buy exclusives, because a game built from the ground up for a single system is what is going to show what that system is capable of.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]because its the only way to compare them, you cant compare exclusives because there is no way to tell if it would look better on the other console. comparing different games, with different developers is pointless because one devs talents and engine differs from all others.navyguy21

Thats just it, comparing multiplats is probably the worst way to compare these two consoles, the architecture differences will almost always put the 360 on top, on the other hand, exclusive games REALLY show a systems power and what the system is capable of, both systems have great looking games, the only REAL way to compare them IS buy exclusives, because a game built from the ground up for a single system is what is going to show what that system is capable of.

so u come in with no proof all opinion?......stereointegrity

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Why on earth would you use multiplats when comparing systems? Most times with multiplats they develop it for a system then port it.Silverbond

TC clearly says that KZ2 would look better on 360.

Show me any currently released 36 that looks better than KZ2 and i'll be inclined to agree with you.TheGrat1

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/718963/mass-effect/images/mass-effect-20060512020812888.html

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Thats just it, comparing multiplats is probably the worst way to compare these two consoles, the architecture differences will almost always put the 360 on top, on the other hand, exclusive games REALLY show a systems power and what the system is capable of, both systems have great looking games, the only REAL way to compare them IS buy exclusives, because a game built from the ground up for a single system is what is going to show what that system is capable of.

AdoringFan_

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]because its the only way to compare them, you cant compare exclusives because there is no way to tell if it would look better on the other console. comparing different games, with different developers is pointless because one devs talents and engine differs from all others.navyguy21

TC clearly says that KZ2 would look better on 360.

Exactly, the different consoles have different advantages and disadvantages, but claiming one as the clear winner is just silly. So far the console graphics king has flip-flopped back and forth. If one was clearly more powerful, we would have seen a distinct advantage straight-away (or a little later in the PS3's case, due to the crumby architecture).

[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] so how would you know if Killzone 2 would look better on PS3 than 360?? How do cows know that Killzone 2 CANT be done on 360?? NO game on 360 uses a proprietary engine, so how do we know that 360 cant achieve that level of fidelity?? navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

TC clearly says that KZ2 would look better on 360.

-Traveller-

Exactly, the different consoles have different advantages and disadvantages, but claiming one as the clear winner is just silly. So far the console graphics king has flip-flopped back and forth. If one was clearly more powerful, we would have seen a distinct advantage straight-away (or a little later in the PS3's case, due to the crumby architecture).

This time last year PS3 fanboys claimed FF13 could only be done on PS3:roll:

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] i dont agree with TC, because if it was on 360, then it wouldnt be built for the cell, it would be built on a multiplat engine, so they would look the same, with a few differences here and there. Killzone looks good because of the INCREDIBLE lighting engine, which GG did using the cell, everything else in killzone has been done before on both consoles, i know, i have the game. So it COULD be done, just not in the WAY that it is done on PS3 (meaning how data is processed, not graphical fidelity)ronjon_09

Exactly, the different consoles have different advantages and disadvantages, but claiming one as the clear winner is just silly. So far the console graphics king has flip-flopped back and forth. If one was clearly more powerful, we would have seen a distinct advantage straight-away (or a little later in the PS3's case, due to the crumby architecture).

This time last year PS3 fanboys claimed FF13 could only be done on PS3:roll:

What has that got to do with anything? Like I said each has advantages and disadvantages, and are extremely similar so far, in terms of power.

The general population does not know what is possible on either console.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"] lol cow? Sorry but what does that mean. Just curiousAdoringFan_

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"] lol cow? Sorry but what does that mean. Just curiousAdoringFan_

360 fanboys are lemmings.

PC fanboys are hermits.

This is all explained in the thread at the top. :)

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]Show me any currently released 36 that looks better than KZ2 and i'll be inclined to agree with you.ronjon_09

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/718963/mass-effect/images/mass-effect-20060512020812888.html

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]Show me any currently released 360 game that looks better than KZ2 and i'll be inclined to agree with you.ronjon_09

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/718963/mass-effect/images/mass-effect-20060512020812888.html

[QUOTE="ronjon_09"]

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]Show me any currently released 36 that looks better than KZ2 and i'll be inclined to agree with you.Nedemis

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/718963/mass-effect/images/mass-effect-20060512020812888.html

Mass Effect has excellent character models, but the environments are fairly lackluster.

Yeah yeah yeah a flood of bu bu bu Killzone 2 will come in here. Bu bu bu I bet the farm if on 360 it would look better.

The fact is we have to take multiplats into account now it's been 2 1/2 years and the learn the PS3 excuse is over the fact is 360 just out performs the PS3 in graphics. And we will see games in the next year or 2 on 360 proof this for good. MS has some games yet to be announced first party that will most likely shatter PS3 first party graphics.

But we must just accept multiplats as a true eye opener as to what system has the power and clearly the 360 is the champ.

Further proof. We can no longer over look this it's done deal the 360 GPU >>> RSX PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=7446

ronjon_09

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Why on earth would you use multiplats when comparing systems? Most times with multiplats they develop it for a system then port it.stereointegrity

Looks like somebody celebrated 420 a day late

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="ronjon_09"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/718963/mass-effect/images/mass-effect-20060512020812888.html

-Traveller-

Mass Effect has excellent character models, but the environments are fairly lackluster.

dude just enjoy the games.Nocturnal_Speed

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]and here's where the thread ended.Nedemis

Mass Effect has excellent character models, but the environments are fairly lackluster.

Definately like MGS4.

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="ronjon_09"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/718963/mass-effect/images/mass-effect-20060512020812888.html

-Traveller-

Mass Effect has excellent character models, but the environments are fairly lackluster.

[QUOTE="ronjon_09"]

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]Show me any currently released 360 game that looks better than KZ2 and i'll be inclined to agree with you.TheGrat1

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/718963/mass-effect/images/mass-effect-20060512020812888.html

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]and here's where the thread ended.-Snooze-

Mass Effect has excellent character models, but the environments are fairly lackluster.

Lol true, although it was the one game that could hold my attention even with such bad technical flaws. Safe to say, I bought it for PC as soon as it came out :P