I honestly feel bad about the PC as a platform

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#1 Posted by Calvincfb (0 posts) -

I mean, it is a good platform with good possibilities being open and all, but c'mon, so much wasted potential.

For once, we don't have any games made exclusively for those high end GPUs, since all games are made with Xbox One and PS4 as the baseline, all that power goes to fluff that adds nothing really relevant to the experience, the graphics are slightly better but nothing that makes a world of difference and the fps is irrelevant for most people.

The most played PC games can be played on the most basic laptops, any laptop can play LoL for example and any low end GPU can play most popular competitive games, the ones that are relevant at least.

So imagine putting up an expensive rig and missing the best games of the generation, such as Mario Odyssey or God of War, not a good deal at all.

Yeah, it lives a bitter taste in my mouth to think how much potential the PC platform has and how it's wasted...

Well, that's just modern gaming, I think.

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#2 Edited by Calvincfb (0 posts) -

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#3 Posted by Pandadropkicks (384 posts) -

Please no one post on this thread:p

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#4 Posted by SecretPolice (35358 posts) -

I too feel PC is the scourge of the world and must die a horrible death.

We're talking Political Correctness here right? :P

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#5 Posted by Random_Matt (4294 posts) -

Oh, one of these threads again. But there is some truth I suppose, walled gardens do have advantages.

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#6 Posted by Random_Matt (4294 posts) -

fps is irrelevant for most people.

People simply have not experienced 60+ and will not due to various reasons, would not suggest irrelevancy.

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#7 Posted by Ghosts4ever (10313 posts) -

Well i dont care about childish games like mario or third person games like GOW. infact DMC 5 is far better than GOW.

every multiplat run better on PC. this is another one of those anti PC thread.

the biggest example is. multiple sony exclusives liek detroit, heavy rain and beyond are coming to PC and heavy rain just came. and i ignore it. its not like if they hit PC and we care about it.

few exclusive that are movie games or childish nintendo games doensot matter.

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#8 Posted by warmblur (2823 posts) -

PC is being held back by AAA publishers plain and simple the glory days AAA exclusives are non existent it shouldn't be this way it sucks. I feel bad for newer PC gamers that didn't experience PC gaming from 98-07 to me that was the golden era of PC gaming. It's still great but it's not what it should and can be right now.

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#9 Posted by Fedor (5277 posts) -

Cow insecurity is reaching dangerous levels.

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#10 Posted by Juub1990 (8675 posts) -

Why do we let these trolls run rampant? Seriously.

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#12 Edited by Heirren (2269 posts) -

@juub1990

Lol. Trolls will be trolls, on the net and irl. So sad.

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#13 Posted by FantasyGamer (441 posts) -

"So imagine putting up an expensive rig and missing the best games of the generation, such as Mario Odyssey or God of War, not a good deal at all."

@Calvincfb

I played Zelda botw and Mario kart 8 and donkey Kong CTF on PC

and I can play more games on PC than on PS4 , we have microsoft game's third party games PC exclusives like Squadron 42 etc , some Sony games like Detroit , now after all the acquisitions microsoft has done we will have more games that are not available on PS4.

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#14 Posted by BoxRekt (2004 posts) -

Honestly the only quality games I have to look forward to on PC are those top down isometric RPGs.

That's honestly Top-down RPGs are PC's only "AAA" caliber game selection you'll find on steams store, everything else worth looking of is a console port of some kind. Virtually everything other than that is busted, janky and extremely low quality.

PC's exclusive content is pretty much a shovelware grave yard.

It's not hating it's just a fact. PC fans wait on our console ports so they can have something of quality to get excited about.

I just went searching through the steam store today...shit depressing. You can't find anything but unfinished early access cash grab projects and basement developed indies for all the praise PC fans here give the platform.

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#15 Posted by DaVillain- (37591 posts) -

@heirren Back in the old days in System Wars. Trolls put efforts into their trolling threads but this isn't one of them lol.

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#16 Posted by BoxRekt (2004 posts) -

@fantasygamer MS still hasn't put The Master Chief Collection on PC yet! That's all I'm really looking forward to on PC at the moment (another console port). Virtually everything else that's not already on console is shovelware.

As you've proven with you post, listing one early access UNFINISHED microtran$action hell BETA AAA PC scam Star Citizen and then TONS of console ports or illegal stolen titles console exclusives...PC fans don't really have any games worth listing or speaking on when talking about AAA quality games when compared to consoles.

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#17 Posted by DrLostRib (5022 posts) -

for someone who claims he finds PC boring and doesn't care about, TC sure talks a lot about PC

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#18 Posted by DragonfireXZ95 (25463 posts) -

This thread is really just a circle jerk of the most vocal PS fanboys. It's rather sad, actually. Don't you guys have anything else to talk about?

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#19 Posted by with_teeth26 (9594 posts) -

sure, if you discount entire genres like strategy games, milsims (Hell Let Loose is what BFV wishes it could be and its only in Early Access) and other random but awesome Multiplayer games like Mordhau and Tannenberg, then yea, PC is only really good for the massive advantages in control flexibility and hardware configuration, as well as performance (which is critically important for enjoyment IMO)

its a shame I find so called "AAA" games so damn stale most of the time. Been playing through Detroit Become Human while its free on PS+ and my god if this is what AAAE gaming looks like, there isn't much there to brag about. sure it looks nice but it runs like dogshit, controls like dogshit and the story and premise is amateur hour.

there hasn't been a single worthwhile PS4 or Xbox exclusive so far this year as far as i'm concerned, yet PC has Anno 1800 and Total War Three Kingdoms off the top of my head which are both excellent and i'm pretty sure qualify as AAA to boot.

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#20 Edited by Kali-B1rd (2242 posts) -

Reported my last post did ya? as it looks like its been deleted.

I keep saying man.... you need to see someone.

Meanwhile we'l all continue playing the biggest game library, genres at by far the best graphics and performance....

Fix yourself, get a decent job, join us.

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#21 Posted by Ghosts4ever (10313 posts) -
@boxrekt said:

It's not hating it's just a fact. PC fans wait on our console ports so they can have something of quality to get excited about.

Im pretty sure majority of people will get cyberpunk on PC.

very few people will play it on console.

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#22 Posted by Fedor (5277 posts) -

Same two kids in everyone of these go nowhere posts. Not long before they get the hammer.

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#23 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (6486 posts) -

Your logic is flawless...

You do realise if you can't afford a PC chances are you can only afford one console and then you also would be missing out on games, how many people here actually have a Switch that own a X1 or PS4?... Not many and vice versa.

The chances of someone with a high end gaming PC having a console or every console is highly likely because they can clearly afford it.

Money solves everything I get every multi-play and PC exclusive on PC at the best possible settings and framerate available for the time on my PC and I own a Switch and Pro.

The problem is the other way around... I feel sorry for console gamers who have to pick one console.

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#25 Posted by BassMan (10578 posts) -

@calvincfb:

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#26 Edited by BaelNergal (570 posts) -

The desperation in the OP, after that last thread...

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#27 Posted by DaVillain- (37591 posts) -

@baelnergal said:

The desperation in the OP, after that last thread...

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#28 Posted by XVision84 (16332 posts) -

I used to think the moderation should be more lax. Now I think it should be more strict lol.

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#29 Posted by djoffer (1431 posts) -

Soo time to ban Calvin and box maybe?

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#30 Posted by BassMan (10578 posts) -

@XVision84 said:

I used to think the moderation should be more lax. Now I think it should be more strict lol.

We all take jabs and troll to an extent, but some people like Calvincfb/ReClown, BoxRekt, etc. are just straight up shit posters and we could do without them.

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#31 Edited by hrt_rulz01 (19169 posts) -

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#32 Edited by Calvincfb (0 posts) -

I'm going to ignore replies with offensive content, since they don't add anything to the discussion, as for those calling for my ban, unfortunately, for you, making a thread about how PC's full potential is wasted by the developers is not against GS or SW rules, it's not my problem if this simple truth hurts you.

Without further ado:

@Random_Matt said:

fps is irrelevant for most people.

People simply have not experienced 60+ and will not due to various reasons, would not suggest irrelevancy.

Yes, they have and I have. Higher fps is cool and all, but not really necessary and most people clearly don't care about that, if they did, Switch wouldn't be selling like hot cakes, DS, 3DS would have all but failed. People care, first and foremost about the fun factor of games.

@warmblur said:

PC is being held back by AAA publishers plain and simple the glory days AAA exclusives are non existent it shouldn't be this way it sucks. I feel bad for newer PC gamers that didn't experience PC gaming from 98-07 to me that was the golden era of PC gaming. It's still great but it's not what it should and can be right now.

PC wouldn't have access to AAA if it weren't for consoles shifting their archtecture to x86. Consoles make more money for any one developer, since most AAA sell more copies on consoles than on PC. You should be grateful for the existence of console gaming, is the sole reason you have good multiplatform games available to play on the PC.

@fantasygamer said:

"So imagine putting up an expensive rig and missing the best games of the generation, such as Mario Odyssey or God of War, not a good deal at all."

@Calvincfb

I played Zelda botw and Mario kart 8 and donkey Kong CTF on PC

and I can play more games on PC than on PS4 , we have microsoft game's third party games PC exclusives like Squadron 42 etc , some Sony games like Detroit , now after all the acquisitions microsoft has done we will have more games that are not available on PS4.

I don't discuss emulation, what counts it's what is available officially on the PC and those games you cited are not.

@boxrekt said:

Honestly the only quality games I have to look forward to on PC are those top down isometric RPGs.

That's honestly Top-down RPGs are PC's only "AAA" caliber game selection you'll find on steams store, everything else worth looking of is a console port of some kind. Virtually everything other than that is busted, janky and extremely low quality.

PC's exclusive content is pretty much a shovelware grave yard.

It's not hating it's just a fact. PC fans wait on our console ports so they can have something of quality to get excited about.

I just went searching through the steam store today...shit depressing. You can't find anything but unfinished early access cash grab projects and basement developed indies for all the praise PC fans here give the platform.

Pretty much agreed. But they seem to fail this simply concept. If PC was all that those people needed, they wouldn't buy PS4/Xbox/Switch, but most PC gamers have at least a PS4 and a Switch whereas most PS4/Switch owners don't have a gaming PC.

@with_teeth26 said:

sure, if you discount entire genres like strategy games, milsims (Hell Let Loose is what BFV wishes it could be and its only in Early Access) and other random but awesome Multiplayer games like Mordhau and Tannenberg, then yea, PC is only really good for the massive advantages in control flexibility and hardware configuration, as well as performance (which is critically important for enjoyment IMO)

its a shame I find so called "AAA" games so damn stale most of the time. Been playing through Detroit Become Human while its free on PS+ and my god if this is what AAAE gaming looks like, there isn't much there to brag about. sure it looks nice but it runs like dogshit, controls like dogshit and the story and premise is amateur hour.

there hasn't been a single worthwhile PS4 or Xbox exclusive so far this year as far as i'm concerned, yet PC has Anno 1800 and Total War Three Kingdoms off the top of my head which are both excellent and i'm pretty sure qualify as AAA to boot.

I'm talking about AAA games that use the full power of the PC hardware, which is not the case for most of the games you cited, neither is for the majority of PC exclusives. Most of them can run on a laptop onboard chipset.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Your logic is flawless...

You do realise if you can't afford a PC chances are you can only afford one console and then you also would be missing out on games, how many people here actually have a Switch that own a X1 or PS4?... Not many and vice versa.

The chances of someone with a high end gaming PC having a console or every console is highly likely because they can clearly afford it.

Money solves everything I get every multi-play and PC exclusive on PC at the best possible settings and framerate available for the time on my PC and I own a Switch and Pro.

The problem is the other way around... I feel sorry for console gamers who have to pick one console.

Being able to afford or not has nothing to do with the discussion. I truly feel sorry about all that wasted potential on a PC with high end hardware, the games aren't using all that power and probably never will.

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#33 Edited by with_teeth26 (9594 posts) -

@calvincfb Total War Three Kingdoms and Hell Let Loose (50v50 MP on huge maps) are pretty dang demanding, especially if you want to play on ultra + 1440p (or higher) and maintain a good frame rate.

Mordhau and Anno are no visual slouches either...

playing any of those at 4k and hoping to maintain 60fps (let alone 144fps which a lot of PC gamers aim for) would stress even the most powerful PCs.

you can make any game look better and play better by cranking the resolution and going for higher frame rates and that will take advantage of powerful hardware. even if you don't have a super high res/high frequency monitor you can use stuff like DSR to render games at a higher resolution and downsample and that'll make them look way better as well.

also your criteria are stupid and arbitrary.

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#34 Posted by Fedor (5277 posts) -

I give it 2 more weeks until

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#35 Posted by Dark_sageX (3427 posts) -
@calvincfb said:

For once, we don't have any games made exclusively for those high end GPUs,

OK I have to stop right, see THIS is whats wrong with gamers today, what is it about a game being exclusive that pushes you to become a drone? its such WEAK mentality that makes an easy target cash cow for greedy developers. A game can be a masterpiece or a game can be well crafted but as long as you slap EXCLUSIVE on it you back it up? and does a game have to be exclusive to take advantage of higher end hardware? come on, that is just ridiculous.

As for graphics being slightly better on PC comment, lol, "slightly", you haven't actually seen what a proper gaming rig can do have you?

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#36 Edited by Juub1990 (8675 posts) -

I still think we should petition for OP’s ban.

Annoying and useless trolls like him and ip_daily need to go.

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#37 Posted by Chutebox (44707 posts) -

Dumb

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#38 Posted by dxmcat (2718 posts) -
@BassMan said:

@calvincfb:

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#39 Posted by tenaka2 (17201 posts) -

If you want to play games at their best you play them on a decent PC, consoles are for poor people.

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#40 Posted by ProtossRushX (5640 posts) -

PC used to be godly in the 90's its slowly falling off a cliff and now epic games store is making it the dark times.

who the hell wants to login 2-3 diff platforms to play game I only wanna use one and 2 is fucking horrible

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#41 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (13684 posts) -

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#42 Posted by Heirren (2269 posts) -

@davillain-:

Yeah lotta new throw away accounts aka trash accounts. You think people realize that all that stuff goes unnoticed?

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#43 Posted by BassMan (10578 posts) -

@Juub1990 said:

I still think we should petition for OP’s ban.

Annoying and useless trolls like him and ip_daily need to go.

I vote in favour of the ban.

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#44 Edited by BoxRekt (2004 posts) -
@ghosts4ever said:
@boxrekt said:

It's not hating it's just a fact. PC fans wait on our console ports so they can have something of quality to get excited about.

Im pretty sure majority of people will get cyberpunk on PC.

very few people will play it on console.

yeah about that...

If you want to add in pirated copies you might begin to have an argument but I don't have those stats.

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BTW:

LOL at people calling for a ban because you don't like someone's argument about your favorite platform. How childish.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE THEN?

This board isn't called "Everything get's bashed EXCEPT for my precious PC wars", it's called "SYSTEM WARS".

No one cries or called for bans when PS, Xbox, or Nintendo systems get bashed, dumb arguments are not so what the hell is going on in this teary eyed thread?

If you're upset and calling for someone to be banned because they're making an argument against your favorite system, maybe YOU should remove yourself from this board and go find some place to post that's not dedicated to making arguments against any and all systems!

😭Don't talk about PC it's off limits, BAN HIM!

Really 🤦

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#45 Posted by thehig1 (7332 posts) -
@calvincfb said:

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I'm talking about AAA games that use the full power of the PC hardware, which is not the case for most of the games you cited, neither is for the majority of PC exclusives. Most of them can run on a laptop onboard chipset.

try and play Anno 1800, Total War Three Kingdoms, Hell Let Loose on a laptop onboard chipset and tell me how they run.

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#46 Posted by lundy86_4 (53653 posts) -

Bait thread.

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#47 Posted by Juub1990 (8675 posts) -
@boxrekt said:

BTW:

LOL at people calling for a ban because they don't like someone's argument about their favorite platform. How childish.

This board isn't called "Everything get's bashed EXCEPT for our precious PC wars", it's called "SYSTEM WARS".

No one cries or called for bans when PS, Xbox, or Nintendo systems get bashed, dumb arguments are not so what the hell is going on in this teary eyed thread?

If you're upset and calling for someone to be banned because they're making an argument against your favorite system, maybe YOU should remove yourself from this board and go find some place to post that's not dedicated to making arguments against any and all systems!

😭Don't talk about PC it's off limits, BAN HIM!

Really 🤦

I don't even care about this PC bashing argument. You guys always use the same tired topics and are just looking to troll to get a rise out of people. You're not actually here to discuss or have insightful exchanges and don't pretend otherwise. You're simply here to annoy people. ip_daily is a notorious PS hater and I want his as gone too because he's as much as a troll as you or Calvincfb are. At this point you're just being disruptive and annoying.

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#48 Posted by MonsieurX (39181 posts) -

Oh look, this thread with the usual cows

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#49 Edited by Zaryia (9494 posts) -

@boxrekt

@calvincfb:

You feel bad for PC as a platform?

You what now?

  • By far the most players.
  • By far the most revenue. (Software and hardware, gaming only)
  • By far the most highly played video games.
  • By far the most high scoring games. (I should end this here, factually wins SW)
  • By far the most AAA and AA budget games.
  • By far the best gfx.
  • By far the best performance.
  • By far the best version of almost all multiplats.
  • By far the best Online.

(P.S. Why is every anti-PC liar a fresh alt?)

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#50 Posted by Ghosts4ever (10313 posts) -

@Juub1990 said:
@boxrekt said:

BTW:

LOL at people calling for a ban because they don't like someone's argument about their favorite platform. How childish.

This board isn't called "Everything get's bashed EXCEPT for our precious PC wars", it's called "SYSTEM WARS".

No one cries or called for bans when PS, Xbox, or Nintendo systems get bashed, dumb arguments are not so what the hell is going on in this teary eyed thread?

If you're upset and calling for someone to be banned because they're making an argument against your favorite system, maybe YOU should remove yourself from this board and go find some place to post that's not dedicated to making arguments against any and all systems!

😭Don't talk about PC it's off limits, BAN HIM!

Really 🤦

I don't even care about this PC bashing argument. You guys always use the same tired topics and are just looking to troll to get a rise out of people. You're not actually here to discuss or have insightful exchanges and don't pretend otherwise. You're simply here to annoy people. ip_daily is a notorious PS hater and I want his as gone too because he's as much as a troll as you or Calvincfb are. At this point you're just being disruptive and annoying.

IP daily is more of PC and FPS hater but he use microsoft console which make no sense.

calvin make anti PC thread once in a week with same old tired arguments.

even for that i dont think people should be ban for having different opinions.