I feel like Spiderman is a 10

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#1 TheEroica  Moderator
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I just got around to playing and finishing Spiderman. I never bothered when it came out. I was busy with my switch and figured I'd grab it on a sale... So here we are, post game credits rolling and I have to say in terms of open world action games and based on the standard of AAA games, story, presentation, moment to moment gameplay, Spiderman ps4 is undeniably a 10.

A 10 does not mean perfect to me, and Spiderman is not perfect. It struggles in some spots to differentiate itself from some common open world tropes, and it doesn't reinvent the wheel with its approach to mission design or side activities, but it summarizes to me the potential of how an open world game with focus on gameplay, story, pacing and presentation can come together in remarkable ways.

I never fast traveled once... That's never happened for me before in an open world game. Why? Because insomniac built a wonderful system to traverse the world that became more thrilling the longer I played it. They also avoided the great scourge on open world games... Too big a world.

I can't answer for you but Im done walking/horsing my way across three states to arrive at a side mission. That's not good gaming to me. Despite the aforementioned imperfection of the Spiderman side missions, they were accessible and didn't waste my time getting there or completing them. They also fed directly into my choice to upgrade powers and suits, so I found them compelling as they opened up progressively across the city.

The story was wonderful! Im in a stingy spot in life where video game stories are eye rolling at best, but in a game where I'm expecting "marvel movie" level story, this was pretty fantastic. Characters where great and the story had weight. Especially in the end game.

I know spiderman was discussed ad nauseum a couple years ago when it released, and most folks are on to so many other gaming experiences, but Spiderman was a 10/10 when weighed against its contemporaries in its genre and gaming in general.

Would I have wanted some tougher boss fights, sure.. Or just some ways to use that awesome combat system in ways that upped the challenge, sure but that's what hard mode is for.

In terms of single player experiences, open world games with compelling stories, give me this game over rdr or the Witcher in terms of open world all day.

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#2 Juub1990
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@TheEroica said:

A 10 does not mean perfect to me, and Spiderman is not perfect. It struggles in some spots to differentiate itself from some common open world tropes, and it doesn't reinvent the wheel with its approach to mission design or side activities, but it summarizes to me the potential of how an open world game with focus on gameplay, story, pacing and presentation can come together in remarkable ways.

Then it doesn't deserve to score anywhere near a 10.

Thank you.

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#3 TheEroica  Moderator
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@Juub1990: that didn't make any sense.

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#4 freedomfreak
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Not with those stealth sections.

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#5 TheEroica  Moderator
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@freedomfreak: you mean the mj/miles segments?

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#6  Edited By Juub1990
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@TheEroica said:

that didn't make any sense.

You admit to a bunch of faults and it being nothing new and like those dime a dozen open-world games and then proceed to give it a 10? Yeah no. If we didn't have a million open-world games some of which does stuff better I could agree but nah.

Also lol at giving a 10 against its contemporaries. It's another open-world game. Next please.

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#7 TheEroica  Moderator
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@Juub1990: No, I said zero games are perfect and despite some shortcomings it shines in remarkable ways, making it a 10. Don't cherry pick what I said.. Consider the entirety if it.

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#8 Juub1990
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@TheEroica said:

No, I said zero games are perfect and despite some shortcomings it shines in remarkable ways, making it a 10. Don't cherry pick what I said.. Consider the entirety if it.

I read the entire thing and you are not describing a 10. You are describing a game that is largely similar to all the other open-world games but manages to do some stuff so as not to be as tedious. Nothing you said there implies a top-tier combat system, an amazing world building or gripping storyline, all elements that could justify a 10. What you say is basically "Hey this game is a really good open-world game with a bunch of shortcomings so let me give it a 10."

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@Juub1990: I'm chatting with someone who has clearly never played the game, which is fine, because I didn't play it for 2 years either... It didn't "sound" like a 10 to me either back when I had no real perspective. The game for all its rights comes together as one of the most enjoyable open world games I've played. It's a 10.

Get a perspective then we can talk counterpoint.

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#10 PC_Rocks
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Sure if that's out of 100.

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#11  Edited By Juub1990
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@TheEroica said:

@Juub1990: I'm chatting with someone who has clearly never played the game, which is fine, because I didn't play it for 2 years either... It didn't "sound" like a 10 to me either back when I had no real perspective. The game for all its rights comes together as one of the most enjoyable open world games I've played. It's a 10.

Get a perspective then we can talk counterpoint.

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Or maybe I played it but didn't give a damn about it?

Sure it's a 10 but you have low-ass standards judging by your OP.

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Yeah, not really a 10.

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#13 GoldenElementXL
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I haven’t finished it, but I was surprised by how much I liked what I played. The MJ sections weren’t fun, and I cringe at QTE fights, but the traversal is pretty damn good. I bypassed story sections to collect the backpacks because I liked I’m the traversal so much.

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#14 GoldenElementXL
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I haven’t finished it, but I was surprised by how much I liked what I played. The MJ sections weren’t fun, and I cringe at QTE fights, but the traversal is pretty damn good. I bypassed story sections to collect the backpacks because I liked I’m the traversal so much.

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#15  Edited By Pedro
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Judging only from you initial post, you did what most gamers do when evaluating games. Take one aspect you loved or hate and paint over the entire experience.

Independent of that, welcome to the world of gaming outside the constraints of the Switch.😛

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OP you are a forum/website that loves to hate anything that comes from Playstation. You should of known better, if it was exclusive to PC, Switch or Xbox, their platform slaves would be saying it is the best thing ever.

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#17 Random_Matt
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Actually this could apply to Nintendo too, people hate on that a lot as well.

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#18 Juub1990
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@Random_Matt: As evidenced by the thunderous reception Xbox games get here lol.

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#19 Pedro
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@Random_Matt: This forum and website loves to hate on Sony? 😂 Don't be silly 😐

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#20 sealionact
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Spiderman was fun for a while, but a 10? Personal preferences I suppose, but there were too many minus points for me to score it higher than an 8.

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#21 Random_Matt
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Alright, everyone hates everything, lol.

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#22 Pedro
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@Random_Matt: Now that's is more accurate 😁

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#23 Epak_
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Bu bu bu bu buh the cutscenes and teh teh teh teh no gaemplae!

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#24  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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It's a great game. Didn't get to play the DLC, but maybe one day I'll go back to it. All I know is, Insomniac is on Team Sony - sorry Lems/Sheep/Herms. Looking foward to Spider-Man 2 on PS5. 😇

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As a Marvel fanboy that I am and Spider-Man being my first ever comic book I read and enjoy in the 90's, while I won't let my inner fanboy get in the way, this is my take on Marvel's Spider-Man PS4.

I'm really glad Insomniac Games were able to make a really good Spider-Man game that has nothing to do with Activision who been mishandling the license for so long. Marvel's Spider-Man PS4 felt like a true evolution to Spider-Man 2 game (PS2/Xbox/Gamecube) and almost felt like as if I was playing Spider-Man remake in a sense. I'm just so glad Spider-Man PS4 isn't riding the MCU formula and doing its own thing was the best way to go.

Marvel's Spider-Man is pure fun. I like how Insomniac Games took alot of inspiration from Raimi's Spider-Man films and stealth them into the game was clever. They got the swinging and combat pretty damn spot on, this is how a Spider-Man game feels like, its the only open-world game I never ever use fast-travel, I just swing throughout NY and enjoying the view.

Glad you’re enjoying it Garrus! The story, missions, are a lot of fun too. I enjoyed it more than any of the Spider-Man movies, especially the MCU versions. (Not saying I don't enjoy them, but you'll get my point)

I personally give Marvel's Spider-Man PS4 a 8/10.

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#26  Edited By ellos
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Insomniac are a solid dev, give them enough funding and they can put together a AAA game. Spiderman is not my thing I just dislike the Batman combat in general. It looks well put together although I think they should lean in on the THPS aspect more. Put together a full system of webbing around the city in style with some sort of scoreboard.

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#27  Edited By AsadMahdi59
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I'd say an 8 is the absolute best it deserves and think that's generous.

Same open world design as everything else, rehashed Arkham combat (preferred Arkham's combat), lame side character missions (as well as some where you play as Spiderman)

Agree that the story was really well done, and traversal was incredibly smooth and polished.

The the polish of Spiderman PS4 and combine it with the combat in something like Web of Shadows now that would be interesting.

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#28 SOedipus
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It's the best Spider-man game I've played. It's awesome, a 9/10 for me. I never fast-traveled once either. It was so much fun web slinging around the city and it's gorgeous. I still have to beat the second and third DLC. I finished everything in the main game though, even those fucking challenges. I hated those. I can't remember them that well because it's been awhile but I do remember chasing a drone around for a particular challenge and it was a real pain in the ass. It was rage inducing.

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#29 sakaiXx
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Yes agree its a 10. Really enjoyed the game for what it is.

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#30 Willy105
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I think its great that Marvel has an answer to Batman now.

Don't like that it's Sony exclusive though.

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#31  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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Did you play it on a base PS4 or a Pro?

How's the performance?

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#32 iambatman7986
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I just completed it too and it is a solid 9-9.5. I'm a spiderman fan boy though

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#33  Edited By lamprey263
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Haven't played it yet, but seems the perfect franchise for Insomniac to tackle, will get to it eventually. Hope they make a Spider-Verse game next, incorporating design stle of recent animated film into an ambitious game.

Anyhow, seems some people are triggered to dislike games over various reasons. But general consensus seems to be the game is fun, and having fun is all I care about.

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#34 GoldenElementXL
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@R4gn4r0k: I played on both and the performance is pretty stable. The game is noticeably cleaner looking on the Pro. There are some noticeable scaling and motion artifacts around Spider-Man’s body on the base PS4.

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@goldenelementxl said:

@R4gn4r0k: I played on both and the performance is pretty stable. The game is noticeably cleaner looking on the Pro. There are some noticeable scaling and motion artifacts around Spider-Man’s body on the base PS4.

Thanks man!

Haven't played the game yet. But I'll be getting a 4K TV soon and I'll be checking out Spiderman for sure.

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@R4gn4r0k: played it on base ps4. I had zero complaints about visuals or performance. Ran like a top.

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#37  Edited By phbz
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By the end I was feeling more like an 8, at best. Movement was fenomenal, but everything else felt mundane.

Mind you that Is don't care for Marvel and Spiderman is on the bottom of my list. I don't like any of the Batman games either. I tried them but I just can't.

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#38 TheEroica  Moderator
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@lamprey263: I doubt you'll be disappointed in any way. It was awesome throughout.

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@TheEroica said:

@R4gn4r0k: played it on base ps4. I had zero complaints about visuals or performance. Ran like a top.

Same here and my launch PS4 handles it very well, I'll say its 30fps locked, so hardly a complaint coming from me who worships 60fps.

Also, I find it funny everyone keeps comparing it to Arkham games. I guess we have gamers here only played Arkham games first and not the later superhero games such as the early Spider-Man games.

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still haven't played this one

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Definitely a 9 in my eyes. MJ/Miles sections were just bland and uninspired. The game also fell into quite a few open-world tropes with repetitive side-missions/police calls. Now, with regards to the traversal gameplay, it had such a great flow and was really well done.

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#42 briguyb13
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I need to play the damn thing already, but so many other titles are taking up my time. I bought it a while back when it was on sale but have yet to sink my teeth in to it.

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#43 Juub1990
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@TheEroica: Yeah so that "didn’t play it" excuse doesn’t fly huh?

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#44 IvanGrozny
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Loved Spiderman. It's a very solid 9. It has too many grinding and copy pasted activities to be a 10. But as I said, a very solid open world game.

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#45  Edited By deactivated-5ecb2310ef8c3
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It was one of the best games of the generation in my opinion. It helps if you enjoy Spiderman as a character and are somewhat familiar with the comics. I think it is is a top tier title and has the reviews and sales to back it up.

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#46 mrbojangles25
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It's a good game (great, even), but not near as good as people made it out to be, and certainly not a 10/10.

As with most open-world games it starts off great but quickly decays to tedium.

It has slightly better side activities than Far Cry 5, but not as entertaining as AC Odyssey.

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@Random_Matt said:

OP you are a forum/website that loves to hate anything that comes from Playstation. You should of known better, if it was exclusive to PC, Switch or Xbox, their platform slaves would be saying it is the best thing ever.

Surely this is sarcasm as you can't be this stupid right???

And you claim to be a hermit, just another case of

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#48 JasonOfA36
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10? No. More like an 8. It's good, but come on, it has flaws that break the experience.

Also good Lord, scores again. Always used as fanboy fodder.

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@Juub1990 said:
@TheEroica said:

@Juub1990: I'm chatting with someone who has clearly never played the game, which is fine, because I didn't play it for 2 years either... It didn't "sound" like a 10 to me either back when I had no real perspective. The game for all its rights comes together as one of the most enjoyable open world games I've played. It's a 10.

Get a perspective then we can talk counterpoint.

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Or maybe I played it but didn't give a damn about it?

Sure it's a 10 but you have low-ass standards judging by your OP.

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#50 TheEroica  Moderator
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@i_p_daily: lol... 15% complete? Get real.