How long can ATi and Nvidia stand by....

while their top new parts rot on the shelves?

Shogun 2 Demo can be maxxed on a 570.... Crysis 2 will be the same story Nvidia/Ati will be lucky if it has same requirements as 2007 Crysis.... There is nothing on the horizon that pushes hardware...

And the next gen of consoles is at least 2 years away (most likely 3)....

I predict that we gonna hear either AMD or Nvidia stepping in PC games development...

Why would they step into game development?MonsieurX

while their top new parts rot on the shelves?

Shogun 2 Demo can be maxxed on a 570.... Crysis 2 will be the same story Nvidia/Ati will be lucky if it has same requirements as 2007 Crysis.... There is nothing on the horizon that pushes hardware...

And the next gen of consoles is at least 2 years away (most likely 3)....

I predict that we gonna hear either AMD or Nvidia stepping in PC games development...

True_Gamer_

They already have. Haven't you heard about the slew of DX 11 titles that are already coming out and that are already in existence.

The fact that their new parts will rot on the shelves is a MYTH. That's the same thinking that caused 3DFX to go out of business when they rested on their laurels and didn't come out with newer and better graphics cards. There will be people out there who will constantly buy the latests and greatests. That's how Lamborghini and Ferrari sells their vehicles year in and year out. You don't see them going bankrupt. And neither will AMD and nVidia. AMD's graphics division has actually GROWN over the past year when compared to previous years.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Why would they step into game development?True_Gamer_

gtx570 gets 45fps on crysis warhead. thats not maxed out.... ATLEAST 60fps nothing under is maxed out

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Didn't AMD sell their 26 millionth DX11 card last year. only a year after their DX 11 cards even came out.

That's like 1/2 the number of Xbox 360's that have EVER SOLD TO DATE all in just 1 year.

Their cards are NOT rotting on the shelf.

They make most of their money from their lower end cards and deals with the big computer companies to put their lower end chips into stock PCs.

:lol: TC!

Try running Crysis Warhead 8024x1600p 16 X SSAA 16 X AF Dx10 with graphics mods on Ultra Enthusiast settings with a single GTX 570.

Hint: You'll be lucky hit 10 FPS with a single 570.

Then once you've tried at failed try doing it with

Crysis

Arma 2

Metro 2033

Shogun 2 Total War

Empire total War

Napoleon Total War

Stalker Call of Pripyat

and you'll get the same results :D

Why would they step down when you have idiots throwing their money at them for new hardware which seems to come out every week IMO even though its not a huge improvement over the last?

I find modern PC games to push cards in areas other than just high res textures. (like particle effects, tessellation, etc)

Why would they step down when you have idiots throwing their money at them for new hardware which seems to come out every week IMO even though its not a huge improvement over the last?

gibson-les-rick

[QUOTE="gibson-les-rick"]

Why would they step down when you have idiots throwing their money at them for new hardware which seems to come out every week IMO even though its not a huge improvement over the last?

Robbazking

[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="gibson-les-rick"]

Why would they step down when you have idiots throwing their money at them for new hardware which seems to come out every week IMO even though its not a huge improvement over the last?

Mystic-G

I was being sarcastic about the money throwing :P There so darn pricey is all

Wait, what? High-end consumer GPUs have always been a niche market, with AMD/ATI and Nvidia making most of their money on mid-range cards and other ventures; you're acting as though they both have warehouses full of 6970s/580s they need to clear out.

Haha. I see what you are saying but as long as developers keep releasing unoptomized garbage (Black Ops) then people will always need the new video cards.

CoD 4, a game that looks almost the same as Black Ops.

CoD 4 FPS = Over 100 Black Ops FPS = 60 down to 30 when a Napalm Strike goes off.

They are getting lazy because games look the same as 3 years ago but somehow I am getting lower FPS.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Why would they step into game development?True_Gamer_

g[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Why would they step into game development?adamosmaki

while their top new parts rot on the shelves?

Shogun 2 Demo can be maxxed on a 570.... Crysis 2 will be the same story Nvidia/Ati will be lucky if it has same requirements as 2007 Crysis.... There is nothing on the horizon that pushes hardware...

And the next gen of consoles is at least 2 years away (most likely 3)....

I predict that we gonna hear either AMD or Nvidia stepping in PC games development...

True_Gamer_

Haha. I see what you are saying but as long as developers keep releasing unoptomized garbage (Black Ops) then people will always need the new video cards.

CoD 4, a game that looks almost the same as Black Ops.

CoD 4 FPS = Over 100 Black Ops FPS = 60 down to 30 when a Napalm Strike goes off.

They are getting lazy because games look the same as 3 years ago but somehow I am getting lower FPS.

Chyropraise

Haha. I see what you are saying but as long as developers keep releasing unoptomized garbage (Black Ops) then people will always need the new video cards.

CoD 4, a game that looks almost the same as Black Ops.

CoD 4 FPS = Over 100 Black Ops FPS = 60 down to 30 when a Napalm Strike goes off.

They are getting lazy because games look the same as 3 years ago but somehow I am getting lower FPS.

Chyropraise

[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="gibson-les-rick"]

Why would they step down when you have idiots throwing their money at them for new hardware which seems to come out every week IMO even though its not a huge improvement over the last?

Mystic-G

[QUOTE="Chyropraise"]

Haha. I see what you are saying but as long as developers keep releasing unoptomized garbage (Black Ops) then people will always need the new video cards.

CoD 4, a game that looks almost the same as Black Ops.

CoD 4 FPS = Over 100 Black Ops FPS = 60 down to 30 when a Napalm Strike goes off.

They are getting lazy because games look the same as 3 years ago but somehow I am getting lower FPS.

CwlHeddwyn

People are still buying them, so I don't see a problem.

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="Chyropraise"]

Haha. I see what you are saying but as long as developers keep releasing unoptomized garbage (Black Ops) then people will always need the new video cards.

CoD 4, a game that looks almost the same as Black Ops.

CoD 4 FPS = Over 100 Black Ops FPS = 60 down to 30 when a Napalm Strike goes off.

They are getting lazy because games look the same as 3 years ago but somehow I am getting lower FPS.

Gauloisez

I am a much smarter person for having read through this thread. I didn't even have to stay at a Holiday Inn Express.