How can MICROSOFT WIN THIS GEN ?

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#1 Greygoose12
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Do they need more value or more exclusives?

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#2 NathanDrakeSwag
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Pray.

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#3 Telekill  Online
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What's with the caps?

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#4  Edited By Chutebox
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By denying there are gens.

Seriously though, that's what they are going for.

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#5  Edited By Greygoose12
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I ask my self whats with the Microsoft thread locks lol. It clearly shows what side the Moderators are on. They will say there has been many of threads on this when there hasn't been one. If you think I am creating threads that have all ready been created before just ban me. Because I am not.

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#6 robert_sparkes
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MS cannot win a generation all they can do is try to gain back some ground and get consoles into peoples homes as a secondary console. Sony as a gaming brand are far too strong.

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@greygoose12 said:

I ask my self whats with the Microsoft thread locks lol. It clearly shows what side the Moderators are on. They will say there has been many of threads on this when there hasn't been one. If you think I am creating threads that have all ready been created before just ban me. Because I am not.

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#8 NathanDrakeSwag
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@greygoose12 said:

I ask my self whats with the Microsoft thread locks lol. It clearly shows what side the Moderators are on. They will say there has been many of threads on this when there hasn't been one. If you think I am creating threads that have all ready been created before just ban me. Because I am not.

This whole site has turned against Sony. The hermits, lems and Princess Floyd have joined forces out of bitterness over Sony's sustained dominance and excellence.

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#9  Edited By Greygoose12
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Well every post I make gets locked lol they say it because I shouldn't post threads that already exist. How does Microsoft buying Zemimax have any real content to Microsoft exclusives vs Sony exclusives ? Now somehow, even though they allow multiple threads to post on the exact same content ? Now this thread will somehow violate there policy lol whatever

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#10 Ant_17
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Sell themselves to sony.

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#11 Bluestars
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first what do you class as won?

as i see it the only thing sony has is possible sales

hah

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#12  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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By doing well with its own IP that it owned before this generation. If they can't build faith in their capability and deliver on games they have complete control over then what hope is there? They showed us what they're capable of with the One and it wasn't enough so they had to do something. I hope they can turn things around internally otherwise the studios they buy will only buy them appreciation in the short term

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#13 Greygoose12
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First and foremost is free speech. This is system wars btw. I enjoy the interesting conversations. This is what we should be discussing. My best friend is a Sony fan. I am a Microsoft fan. But I buy both every gen.

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#14 jaydan
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@greygoose12 said:

I ask my self whats with the Microsoft thread locks lol. It clearly shows what side the Moderators are on. They will say there has been many of threads on this when there hasn't been one. If you think I am creating threads that have all ready been created before just ban me. Because I am not.

This whole site has turned against Sony. The hermits, lems and Princess Floyd have joined forces out of bitterness over Sony's sustained dominance and excellence.

It has a lot more to do with the obnoxious behavior of the Playstation fanbase and their knack for low-quality threads.

Example: the TC quickly turned this thread into a conspiracy bitching thread why his content gets locked rather than blaming the lack of substance.

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#15 PC_Rocks
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By sending hookers to all reviewers, journalists and you tubers. I wager it will still be cheaper than buying Bethesda.

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#16 madrocketeer
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Define "win." I think the definition of "win" is going to be a bit murky this gen. Microsoft are uncoupling their software from the hardware to scale independently, while Sony and Nintendo are sticking to the traditional console model. They are playing very different games.

In fact, this might sound wild, but the more I looked into the ZeniMax acquisition, the more it feels like they bought Bethesda to compete with Amazon, not Sony.

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#17 GirlUSoCrazy
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@jaydan: That's just what happens around a launch before there is any reaction to the actual hardware and games actually in the hands of people, it's the same every time.

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#18 PSP107
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@robert_sparkes: "Sony as a gaming brand are far too strong."

So should MSoft make a buyout offer to Sony regarding the PS brand?

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#19 uninspiredcup  Online
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Buying a better developer than Bethesda.

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#20 speedytimsi
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Don't say Xbox has better Tflops. Just show games and gameplay and let people decide.

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#21 MonsieurX
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They need better threads about them here

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#22 Sushiglutton  Online
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Buy every game studio on earth and then give all the games away though gamepass. This will give them many subscribers. And as we all know that equals winning.

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#23 Macutchi
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@greygoose12 said:

This is system wars btw. I enjoy the interesting conversations.

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#24  Edited By LouiXIII
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More quality exclusives than Sony...that's it!

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#25 LouiXIII
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@greygoose12 said:

Well every post I make gets locked lol they say it because I shouldn't post threads that already exist. How does Microsoft buying Zemimax have any real content to Microsoft exclusives vs Sony exclusives ? Now somehow, even though they allow multiple threads to post on the exact same content ? Now this thread will somehow violate there policy lol whatever

This should put a smile on your face...cooked it up myself :)

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#26 DaVillain-  Moderator  Online
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Just compete is all it takes for MS to win.

Also, giving the nature of the so-called why threads getting locked. Because there's too many Xbox Series X/S threads we talk about over and over again. Clearly there are better things to discuss then talking about XSX all day.

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#27 sheep99
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They can by introducing new IP’s, having bought ZeniMax dose not mean their consoles will fly of the shelfs, fallout and oblivion were big last gen this gen they have not done as well as they should have being released on all consoles

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#28 ellos
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Buying Nintendo.

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#29 lundy86_4  Online
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Release solid games, and get Bethesda on a new engine and underline bugs absolutely need to be minimal. Zeni/Beth has gone unchecked for a long time, as gamers will buy their games regardless, myself included. Without all the detrimental shit, Bethesda release some really good games. Thankfully id does their thing, and do it extremely well.

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#30 Wiiboxstation
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Sell more consoles than the Xbox One is a win for Microsoft.

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#31 clone01
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@greygoose12 said:

Do they need more value or more exclusives?

USING UPPER AND LOWER CASE LETTERS!!

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#32 blamix
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XSX is gonna do way better than Xbox One. But i still don't think they're gonna beat Sony

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#34 Archangel3371  Online
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Make great games that compel more people to buy their hardware and/or subscribe to their services.

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#35  Edited By ni6htmare01
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Buy Sony and Nintendo.

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#36 blueinheaven
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Lem alt asks why threads are being locked. Maybe because Lems like you keep creating alts to talk about the same thing?

A better question is why aren't mods banning this endless legion of alts who just spam the forum with illiterate fanboy bullshit?

As to how can MS win the gen: well they could start by making big Bethesda titles exclusive to Xbox platforms. All they want is people to use Gamepass. Gamepass doesn't exist on Sony's platform so putting big Bethesda titles on PS5 would be incredibly fucking stupid. It's not like MS need the extra money they'd get from games on the Sony platform. Xbox exclusives = games you can only play on Xbox and PC which = platforms that open people up immediately to Gamepass. Rocket science? No.

That said, Phil Spencer is incredibly stupid so I fully expect all Bethesda games to appear on PS5.

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#37 tormentos
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Buy sony and nintendo there generation won.

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#38 blaznwiipspman1
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the xbox series x is more powerful than the ps5. Also the xbox has halo, which is better than every game on the playstation, aside from maybe uncharted. Gears is also an amazing game, which isn't found on playstation. Honestly, i've bought xbox and ps for the last 3 gens, and the playstation has always been the dissaponting one. No, I don't care about japanese rpgs, or any kind of rpgs. What else do they have at that point aside from uncharted and maybe spiderman?

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Only way it happens is if Sony messes up really bad which they really haven't. I don't like some of their practices, but they still make some of the best single player 3rd person action games on the market.

Sony got cocky prior to the ps3 launch and their sales were lower for it. I'm thinking they learned their lesson. If MS can pump out games like Sony, their market share will increase, but I doubt they reach playstation levels this gen. I suspect XSX will do much better than the xbone which was just a mess of a generation for the company with very few compelling first party games. Then again some people may just go the pc route, but that's a more expensive option that turns a lot of casuals off.

Plus MS needs a stronger presence outside of America. Sony dominates MS in most countries.

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#40 TheGreatChomp
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Why are you yelling?

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#41 Bluestars
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imagine sitting playing on the weaker console,with less game studios,weaker game line up and no gamepass and pretending to yourself that its sales that count as a gamer because your one console of choice is in 3rd place

HAH

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#42 Litchie  Online
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I'm pretty SURE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

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#43 robert_sparkes
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Everybody knows MS are niche outside the US which makes it almost impossible to win a generation.

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#44 sonny2dap
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Microsoft's "win" condition if you like, is successfully leveraging a competitors userbase to generate revenue, with that said snapping up an entity like Zenimax I don't actually think is specifically aimed at shifting more xbox units, to my mind it looks like MS is trying to position itself as a value proposition and whilst Sony is the obvious current competition Amazon has some fingers in the gaming market and it's not a leap to think Amazon would eventually extend the media offerings of prime membership to gaming, clearly Sony and MS will want to make that an unattractive proposition.

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#45 HalcyonScarlet
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This will be an interesting generation. MS are being very aggressive this time round. They won't win hardware sales, because they spread their business over multiple devices, but I think in some way their market share will definitely grow.

Even the Series S is a smart move, recognising a lot of people aren't gaming at 4K. A launch console at £249, finally, going back to past gen prices.

Given the price and the fact that the only moving part is the one fan, it makes an acceptable launch console to me, with "launch console reliability" which would usually be a concern for me given experiences with consoles in the past.

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#46 SecretPolice  Online
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Xbox Won!! :P

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#47 hdb_withab
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the only way MS can win a generation is if Sony messes up BIG TIME, like they did with PS3.

And even then the PS3 still ended up outselling the 360... like wow

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#48 joebones5000
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They need better exclusives. Halo and gears aren't good enough.

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#49 ogvampire
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@bluestars: imagine having a PC and PS4... no need for an xbox

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#50  Edited By Bluestars
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@ogvampire:

and i guess the pc is more powerful than the Series x?

HaH

bu bu but