Horizon Forbidden West Digital Foundry Tech Review - "GRAPHICS MASTERCLASS"

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#1 hardwenzen
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You hear that? "GRAPHICS MASTERCLASS". This is the highest praise a video game can achieve. Nothing beyond that. Horizon Forbidden West has reached the endgame. 12tflops what? 12tflops who? 9.2tflops is obliterating everything in its path. Even hermits are looking at this, and beginning to wonder why their 3080 doesn't have anything close to these visuals. The answer to it all is simple: TALENT. Sony has.

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#2 Mesome713
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It’s a great looking PS4 game.

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#3 hardwenzen
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@mesome713 said:

It’s a great looking PS4 game.

Now imagine what will be possible if this was made for the ps5 from the groundup😱😱😱This is insane😱😱😱

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#4 blaznwiipspman1
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This website is well known cow site. I've said it for the past few months. These guys are cows. Hard-core cows. Nothing they say can be taken seriously. 12 tflops >> ps5

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#5 SecretPolice
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Granted it's no tour de force like Halo: Infinite but for a BS4 game with washed out visuals I suppose it will have to suffice for now. :P

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#6 Archangel3371
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Cool. Will watch later.

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#7  Edited By SolidGame_basic  Online
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Looks amazing, even better than Elden Ring lol.

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#8 Zero_epyon
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Looks amazing, even better than Elden Ring lol.

Uh oh lol

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First game looked amazing as well, but it got boring and repetitive fast.

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Good God these guys love their blur.

30fps above 60fps, uh-huh.

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Ahem Hellblade2 is going to destroy it. 😆

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The foliage details is quite mindblowing that is quite high quality texture, incredible work by the dev team and Decima engine engineers. Really loving the "hero lighting" too.

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#13 R4gn4r0k
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@xhawk27 said:

Ahem Hellblade2 is going to destroy it. 😆

Oh no a 100% linear game is gonna destroy an open world game in graphics.

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@R4gn4r0k: Damage control has already started. 😂

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@xhawk27: by you 🤣🤣

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#16 dabear
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@hardwenzen:

In 2021, they ranked these games in the same category:

  • RTX Marbles / The Matrix Awakens (Demos)
  • Kena: Bridge of Spirits
  • Resident Evil: Village
  • The Ascent
  • Metroid: Dread
  • Deathloop
  • Guardians of the Galaxy
  • Metro Exodus (Enhanced Edition)
  • Forza Horizon 5
  • Returnal
  • Lego Builder’s Journey
  • Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart

So, slow your role there, buddy.

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#17 hardwenzen
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@dabear: Call me when they say anything remotely close to GRAPHICS MASTERCLASS when talking about Xbox titles. It won't happen because by the time Xbox reaches Horizon2 visuals (if this is even possible for them), the PS5 will be so far ahead already. Look at what the PS4 was able to achieve. TLOU2, Horizon2, GoW, etc. All of these games were simply too much for the Xbone. The PS4 crushed the Xbone and the PS5 will decapitate the X.

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9TF, cartoony, only 1800p and still endless pop-in. WTF Sony. 12 > 9

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@x_hedon said:

9TF, cartoony, only 1800p and still endless pop-in. WTF Sony. 12 > 9

Perhaps a mid gen upgrade for the fugly under powered BS5 is in the works but I doubt it. lol :P

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@SecretPolice said:
@x_hedon said:

9TF, cartoony, only 1800p and still endless pop-in. WTF Sony. 12 > 9

Perhaps a mid gen upgrade for the fugly under powered BS5 is in the works but I doubt it. lol :P

Have you seen the physics comparisons with BOTW? 1TF > 9.2 TF.

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@dabear: 2021 - Ratchet & Clank wins graphics king title with Returnal in top 3.

2022 - God of War Ragnarok will win graphics king title with HFW in top 3.

just like 2019 with Death Stranding beating PC games graphically lol.

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#22 hardwenzen
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Imagine for a second how insane Infinite could've looked like if it was developed by a Sony dev. No need to quote me. Just relax and think for a second. You see? Yeaaa. The difference in talent is massive.

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#23  Edited By dabear
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@hardwenzen said:

@dabear: Call me when they say anything remotely close to GRAPHICS MASTERCLASS when talking about Xbox titles. It won't happen because by the time Xbox reaches Horizon2 visuals (if this is even possible for them), the PS5 will be so far ahead already. Look at what the PS4 was able to achieve. TLOU2, Horizon2, GoW, etc. All of these games were simply too much for the Xbone. The PS4 crushed the Xbone and the PS5 will decapitate the X.

Sorry. You really need to pay attention...

Masterclass, masterpiece. If you are that hung up of the semantics of synonyms, you should talk to someone.

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Even Gamespot in their toxic, unsensitive and hateful review called it ”absolutely gorgous”.

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@Mozelleple112 said:

@dabear: 2021 - Ratchet & Clank wins graphics king title with Returnal in top 3.

2022 - God of War Ragnarok will win graphics king title with HFW in top 3.

just like 2019 with Death Stranding beating PC games graphically lol.

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#26 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

@dabear: Call me when they say anything remotely close to GRAPHICS MASTERCLASS when talking about Xbox titles. It won't happen because by the time Xbox reaches Horizon2 visuals (if this is even possible for them), the PS5 will be so far ahead already. Look at what the PS4 was able to achieve. TLOU2, Horizon2, GoW, etc. All of these games were simply too much for the Xbone. The PS4 crushed the Xbone and the PS5 will decapitate the X.

Sorry. You really need to pay attention...

Masterclass, masterpiece. If you are that hung up of the semantics of synonyms, you should talk to someone.

The game looks better and is technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen. That is what you need to understand.

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#27  Edited By firedrakes
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@sakaixx said:

The foliage details is quite mindblowing that is quite high quality texture, incredible work by the dev team and Decima engine engineers. Really loving the "hero lighting" too.

that just really good sdr texture.

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@x_hedon:

Indeed, the BS5 would cough up blood trying run the true graphics king so far, MS:FS. lol :P

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Looks nice, and is pretty stable 60 fps. Well done them.

PC games looks and runs better though. Latest Assassin's Creed for example, just to name something very similar. And it's two years old.

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#30 dabear
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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

@dabear: Call me when they say anything remotely close to GRAPHICS MASTERCLASS when talking about Xbox titles. It won't happen because by the time Xbox reaches Horizon2 visuals (if this is even possible for them), the PS5 will be so far ahead already. Look at what the PS4 was able to achieve. TLOU2, Horizon2, GoW, etc. All of these games were simply too much for the Xbone. The PS4 crushed the Xbone and the PS5 will decapitate the X.

Sorry. You really need to pay attention...

Masterclass, masterpiece. If you are that hung up of the semantics of synonyms, you should talk to someone.

The game looks better and is technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen. That is what you need to understand.

LOL, no. It looks great, no doubt. One of the best looking games so far, for sure. But "technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen" - No. Forza Horizon 5 and MSFS are just as impressive. Sorry.

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#31  Edited By KvallyX
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

@dabear: Call me when they say anything remotely close to GRAPHICS MASTERCLASS when talking about Xbox titles. It won't happen because by the time Xbox reaches Horizon2 visuals (if this is even possible for them), the PS5 will be so far ahead already. Look at what the PS4 was able to achieve. TLOU2, Horizon2, GoW, etc. All of these games were simply too much for the Xbone. The PS4 crushed the Xbone and the PS5 will decapitate the X.

Sorry. You really need to pay attention...

Masterclass, masterpiece. If you are that hung up of the semantics of synonyms, you should talk to someone.

The game looks better and is technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen. That is what you need to understand.

LOL, no. It looks great, no doubt. One of the best looking games so far, for sure. But "technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen" - No. Forza Horizon 5 and MSFS are just as impressive. Sorry.

Stop posting facts!

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#32 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

@dabear: Call me when they say anything remotely close to GRAPHICS MASTERCLASS when talking about Xbox titles. It won't happen because by the time Xbox reaches Horizon2 visuals (if this is even possible for them), the PS5 will be so far ahead already. Look at what the PS4 was able to achieve. TLOU2, Horizon2, GoW, etc. All of these games were simply too much for the Xbone. The PS4 crushed the Xbone and the PS5 will decapitate the X.

Sorry. You really need to pay attention...

Masterclass, masterpiece. If you are that hung up of the semantics of synonyms, you should talk to someone.

The game looks better and is technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen. That is what you need to understand.

LOL, no. It looks great, no doubt. One of the best looking games so far, for sure. But "technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen" - No. Forza Horizon 5 and MSFS are just as impressive. Sorry.

Nice try Mr "no more than 3 enemies on screen"🤭You can't do anything else but drive a car in Horizon5. You can climb, fight enemies, run around and do wtf you would in an open world game. Horizon5 offer no interections compared to HFW. Sony is a league ahead, and you know that. Comparing Horizon5 to this MASTERCLASS video game is kinda insulting to be perfectly honest with you.

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#33 dabear
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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

@dabear: Call me when they say anything remotely close to GRAPHICS MASTERCLASS when talking about Xbox titles. It won't happen because by the time Xbox reaches Horizon2 visuals (if this is even possible for them), the PS5 will be so far ahead already. Look at what the PS4 was able to achieve. TLOU2, Horizon2, GoW, etc. All of these games were simply too much for the Xbone. The PS4 crushed the Xbone and the PS5 will decapitate the X.

Sorry. You really need to pay attention...

Masterclass, masterpiece. If you are that hung up of the semantics of synonyms, you should talk to someone.

The game looks better and is technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen. That is what you need to understand.

LOL, no. It looks great, no doubt. One of the best looking games so far, for sure. But "technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen" - No. Forza Horizon 5 and MSFS are just as impressive. Sorry.

Nice try Mr "no more than 3 enemies on screen"🤭You can't do anything else but drive a car in Horizon5. You can climb, fight enemies, run around and do wtf you would in an open world game. Horizon5 offer no interections compared to HFW. Sony is a league ahead, and you know that. Comparing Horizon5 to this MASTERCLASS video game is kinda insulting to be perfectly honest with you.

I am still waiting for that enemy count video. I never said HFW doesn't have more than three, I said I haven't seen a video where there are more than three and having that rich, lush, backdrop of which you constantly link a gif.

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#34  Edited By hardwenzen
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

The game looks better and is technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen. That is what you need to understand.

LOL, no. It looks great, no doubt. One of the best looking games so far, for sure. But "technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen" - No. Forza Horizon 5 and MSFS are just as impressive. Sorry.

Nice try Mr "no more than 3 enemies on screen"🤭You can't do anything else but drive a car in Horizon5. You can climb, fight enemies, run around and do wtf you would in an open world game. Horizon5 offer no interections compared to HFW. Sony is a league ahead, and you know that. Comparing Horizon5 to this MASTERCLASS video game is kinda insulting to be perfectly honest with you.

I am still waiting for that enemy count video. I never said HFW doesn't have more than three, I said I haven't seen a video where there are more than three and having that rich, lush, backdrop of which you constantly link a gif.

You implied that there is no more than 3 enemies on screen because you haven't seen any in a non released game. Biginning to backtrack on your ridiculous claims aren't we?🤭This game is destroying you. Its eating you alive.

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#35  Edited By tdkmillsy
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The same people that said the graphics where a masterclass also said

The main story has major issues, and the level design made it difficult for me to play the way I had previously enjoyed, while making a lot of the newer systems feel redundant. Beyond that, the sense is of a game where Guerrilla has cobbled together RPG building blocks often without making them work within the context of its own game, and in some cases actively worsening Horizon Forbidden West as a result.

All Style no substance

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#37  Edited By dabear
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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

LOL, no. It looks great, no doubt. One of the best looking games so far, for sure. But "technically much more impressive than anything a Microsoft system has ever seen" - No. Forza Horizon 5 and MSFS are just as impressive. Sorry.

Nice try Mr "no more than 3 enemies on screen"🤭You can't do anything else but drive a car in Horizon5. You can climb, fight enemies, run around and do wtf you would in an open world game. Horizon5 offer no interections compared to HFW. Sony is a league ahead, and you know that. Comparing Horizon5 to this MASTERCLASS video game is kinda insulting to be perfectly honest with you.

I am still waiting for that enemy count video. I never said HFW doesn't have more than three, I said I haven't seen a video where there are more than three and having that rich, lush, backdrop of which you constantly link a gif.

You implied that there is no more than 3 enemies on screen because you haven't seen any in a non released game. Biginning to backtrack on your ridiculous claims aren't we?🤭This game is destroying you. Its eating you alive.

Not back tracking at all. I still haven't seen those videos/images.

Yes, HFW looks great. One of the best games this gen, for sure. But, all the talk of its visuals do not include having dozens of enemies on the screen at once. And that has always been my point - HFW seems to sacrifice large scale combat (enemy count wise) to increase it's visuals. Now, again, I could be wrong - but I haven't seen any videos or pics to the contrary.

You worship this game, apparently. So, show me. Prove me wrong - if I am, I will admit it.

That being said, it looks like a great game. Have fun playing it.

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#38 hardwenzen
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@dabear: 1- You must admit being wrong on your no more than 3 enemies on screen. 2- You must admit that this game looks significantly better than anything on your X. Not only does it look better than anything what's released on the system, but it looks better than anything announced.

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#39  Edited By Zero_epyon
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Man Craig really hurt some gamers out there.

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#41 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

It’s a great looking PS4 game.

Now imagine what will be possible if this was made for the ps5 from the groundup😱😱😱This is insane😱😱😱

It was made for the PS5.🤣

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#42 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

It’s a great looking PS4 game.

Now imagine what will be possible if this was made for the ps5 from the groundup😱😱😱This is insane😱😱😱

It was made for the PS5.🤣

No it wasn't😆

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#43 KvallyX
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Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/09/horizon_forbidden_west_built_from_the_ground_up_for_ps5

“No one should be disappointed [about Horizon Forbidden West,Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, andSackboy: A Big Adventurebeing on PS4]. The PS5 versions of those games are built from the ground up to take advantage of the PS5 feature set.

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#44 hardwenzen
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@x_hedon said:

Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/09/horizon_forbidden_west_built_from_the_ground_up_for_ps5

“No one should be disappointed [about Horizon Forbidden West,Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, andSackboy: A Big Adventurebeing on PS4]. The PS5 versions of those games are built from the ground up to take advantage of the PS5 feature set.

Nice try. Looks like you fell for that marketing. This was posted when Sony said F to "we believe in generations".😂If this was built for the PS5, just like Demon's, it wouldn't have been on the PS4. Let that sink in.

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Lems need to see a shrink, a good games comes out for Sony and they have meltdowns.

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#46 hardwenzen
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Not only a good game, but one that looks so much better and on inferior hardware. They just can't handle it. It annoys them. Most of them will have a hard time going to bed.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

This website is well known cow site. I've said it for the past few months. These guys are cows. Hard-core cows. Nothing they say can be taken seriously. 12 tflops >> ps5

They never gave a recommended badge to 1 or 2. But they gave one to Ass Creed every time.

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@Random_Matt said:

Lems need to see a shrink, a good games comes out for Sony and they have meltdowns.

You gotta love how they totally ignored CrossfireX. I guess it's because not even MS was hyping that game.

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@hardwenzen said:

@dabear: 1- You must admit being wrong on your no more than 3 enemies on screen. 2- You must admit that this game looks significantly better than anything on your X. Not only does it look better than anything what's released on the system, but it looks better than anything announced.

1) Show me

2) It does not. FH5 and MSFS have top tier visuals

3) Better than anything announced? LMAO. That's just simply not true.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@Random_Matt said:

Lems need to see a shrink, a good games comes out for Sony and they have meltdowns.

You gotta love how they totally ignored CrossfireX. I guess it's because not even MS was hyping that game.

CrossFireX not being on PC+Game Pass and just an Xbox console exclusive isn't getting the rep it should be given and it doesn't help that CrossFireX makes Halo: Infinite look more badass.